Undertale Speedrun, but I have DREAM LUCK...
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- čas přidán 19. 06. 2024
- Does having modified RNG in a speedrun really count as "cheating"? Is it even THAT good? Today, I show the absolute record-shattering power of having god-like RNG on command...
Note - This video is not an attack on Dream or his character. Any and all information listed about him within this video are public information and are not speculative at all. The purpose of this video is for entertainment only and not on my opinions on him as a person as well as his content. Any personal harassment towards him is unacceptable and I do not condone it.
Full unedited VOD of the playthrough: / 1057376877
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Music (in order):
Fallen Down - Undertale OST
Ruins - Undertale OST
Snowy - Undertale OST
File Select - Super Mario 64 OST
Waterfall - Undertale OST
Battle Against a True Hero - Undertale OST
Another Medium - Undertale OST
CORE - Undertale OST
Small Shock - Undertale OST
Anticipation @ 20% speed ("In My Way") - Undertale OST
Huge thanks to IAmAnIssue, willyjwillyj, OceanBagel, and Msushi for help creating and also feedback on this video. Additional thanks to all of you who have supported me.
Thumbnail composition by fixylol
Thumbnail sprite from www.pixilart.com/art/dream-cr... - Hry
Hey all!! This is my first video in this style and I would really love to hear some feedback! If you have any suggestions for things I could improve in the future as far as structure or editing of the video, let me know!
If you don't have anything to say, reply to this comment with your favorite type of fish. I'm a fan of the swordfish, personally.
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This new style is really entertaining and informative so I like it. Also is crab a fish?
personally i am a fan of any bioluminescent fish which lives at the bottom of the ocean
Awesome work! Also, pufferfish.
It's good
Chara be like: "In this video, im trying to erase the life in the underground as fast as possible, while my monster friends are trying to stop me, will i be able to go through the barrier? This video turned out really unpredictable and i also want to remind that only a small % of you watching are actually subscribed..."
LOL
How u gonna blame chara when ðis guy litterally went in depth about how he murdered people.
Edit: I was just claiming ðat Chara was not ðe one killing people in ðe Genocide route. Not how good of a person ðey were.
@@churro1201 Undertale Community
Not to be rude but, switch Chara with the player then yes that will be true
@@TopsyTurvyLolz yes.
I hope the phrase “dream luck” becomes an actual urban word by definition.
"The luck in dreams"
It makes sense without context too
Well, "Dream" is "the goal of determination"
go to urban dictionary and look it it, it's a thing
@@produtchchees2913 lmao!
My favorite part of the run was when Sans & Papyrus were forced to watch the slaughter of innocent victims; Sure, the deaths of those monsters may be permanent in their eyes, but so is your record, if you're lucky enough
I think this video did a great job showing an example of how much of an effect RNG can have on speedruns by the way
they literally treat it like it happens every day
Why are there not 100 replies to a comment of Christopher Moon here
Christopher Moon, I see you EVERYWHERE, on all sorts of videos. We have similar interests, I guess!
Damn it Chris why are you on every Undertale video I've seen you on at LEAST 10-15 different channels
*Plot twist time:* Their spinning isn't just the cutscene at work. It's actually a coping mechanism for the slaughter-induced trauma.
"What was Dream's raw probability, you ask?"
*screen fills with 9s*
you forgot the 1 in
It was 1 in 20 septillion
@Dog Torto septillion is bigger than sixtillion
@Dog Torto sextillion owowowowo
it was 20 Sextillion.... 😶
I like the reveal of not even getting close to the actual dream luck
not really comparable since dream luck numbers came from a sample of hundreds of runs
20 SEXTILLION
@@blackholeguy1529 ye cuz who would fucking play 20 darn sextrillon game?
@@thiennhanvo2591 no i mean that's the amount of luck dream ha
And then a skeleton blows him out of the water
There was actually no modification to the game, Shay is just that lucky
Shayy wished that was the case
Yeah, and after he will admit to cheating in 10 months, he will blame his manager for it
@@drantigon press c to pay disrespect
@@G_Fantastic c stands for cun-
@@personperson8712 b stands for bofa
Dream: *uses luck manipulation to speedrun Minecraft, doesn't even get close to the top of the chart*
Shayy: You fool. You could have used this for something so much greater. Let me show you how it's done.
Which is why i honestly think he didn't cheat on purpose, that's a really poor use of cheatinh
@@Mqstodon Well two things to counter that argument- one, that only affected his drop rates and not his actual play style or ability (that we know of) so it wouldn't naturally be as noticeable, plus he isn't a tas bot. Two, remember that Dream denied having cheats at all so the logic that he didn't know / couldn't have checked his mods later is absurd.
In the end, he was trying NOT to get caught. Maybe if no one called him out he would have continued an upwards trend of him getting better and better until he beat the record, who knows what the play was.
@@Mqstodon Well, in the run that really began everything, he was on WR pace, but got stalled out by needing to farm an extra eye right before the portal. Without that, he could of taken WR, and even with that, it was still a top 10 time. (3rd place, if I'm remembering right)
Either way, cheating is cheating. Doesn't matter what place you got. Your run is invalid if you got WR or purposely slowed down to get 16th.
@@guywhoateallthepizza1031 i wasn't defending him, i was just saying he's bad at cheating
i hate the fact that even though this guy ACTUALLY HOLDS THE WORLD RECORD, and is also funny, is serverly underrated. it honestly makes me sad
Hes like the anti dream
i think you mean...
mad!
MAD!
*MAD!*
Why be sad? Be glad that you found this gem!
Yeah. I think it's (partly) due to the fact that, from what I've seen, Undertale's speedrunning community doesn't seem as prevalent as others like Mario, Celeste, Hollow Knight, etc.
my spelling is on point
Dream: “I accidentally put a mod in my game that specifically heightens the two items I need the most that have the rng I need the most in a speedrun such as this… it was definitely an accident”
Ik this might be a joke but he accidentally not deactivate it he is using it on manhunts so that it would be faster a little bit easier and smoother
@@Terrandrei If his reputation is counting on it he wouldn’t forget
@@tiktok_content9505 .... Bruh he forgot TO TURN I OFF
@@Terrandrei He forgor 💀
@@dalkay ......... Dude he FORGOT you might say I'm a dream Stan but I rarely watch him (mostly because of his upload schedule)
the reveal of Dreams raw probability is terrifying tbh
true
Shit legit gave me goosebumps
for reference:
that is *1 in 20 septillion.*
or alternatively,
*1 in 2x10^22*
@@FoxFan198nope, 20 sextillion
Imagine their point of view. Someone's just destroyed their entire world billions of times with multiple distortions and alternations in between, and now they're doing it again with maximised efficiency in a mere _hour._ Not only that, but they don't perceive the world clearly enough to not think it's ｃｏｏｌ，ｄｕｄｅ (⌐■-■)ᕗ
11:37 For anyone wondering, Dream's raw RNG luck is 1 in 20 Sextillion, if you questioned what number that was.
> haha sex
Which is still dwarfed by the probability of a Perfect Sans Fight, which I wrote in another comment and don't feel like typing out again because GODS ABOVE it was a big number.
god these videos are so good i wish they got more views
same
Agreed
Very true
Cant wait for "dream luck" to be a new speedrun catagory for a variety of games lol
I wish
He isn’t cheating, he just has a really good gaming chair
No.
I’m gonna need an astrophysicist to verify this run
nice pfp
you could probably get this luck legit if you were a true [Big Shot]
agreed
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"This video is not an attack on Dream's character"
Damn, it should be, though
Well, "Dream's *character* " is different from Dream as a person... 😏
@@noahxolotl the other definition of character
@@empirecrumbles615 I know very well, don't you worry😏
@@noahxolotl why the emoji in every message. I'm worried, noah
@@supremechaosbeing2696 oh, I dunno... 😏
that number for a perfect sans fight is 1 undecillion, 214 decillion, 395 nonillion, 310 octillion, 965 septillion, 942 sextillion, 517 quintillion, 760 quadrillion
jesus christ
Ez got it first try
ez got it 7 times in one day :/
Are those even real Numbers?
yummy unfortunately yes.
@@cakeisyummy5755 yeah
sure are
clearly you've never played cookie clicker
Genocide speed runner : I am going to make these [[Rapidly shrinking]] lives shrink even faster
before watching this video I was angry at how disrespectful what dream did was to all other speedruners, but now I think it's even more slimy than I thought before. How nasty do you have to be to deny someone who actually worked really hard the place they deserve way more than you do. Cheating really isn't fun for anyone.
@@cewla3348 The CHAD Shayy VS The Virgin Dream
@@thymosnova the chad shavy vs virgin UI overrated shaggy
@@taraktaras7327 What type of comparison is that
The only cheating I like is in single player games (that isn't in a speedrunning setting) because it's fun, finds stupid stuff, and isn't hurting anyone
0/10 Did not give Frisk a Dream mask for the mod
it would be neat if you modded for WORST possible luck and saw what that would look like
is it possible to technically go forever with an encounter? or maybe worst luck for a pacifist speedrun, although that would be very tedious to play
i believe that's what he's trying to do next :)
well
guess what
(6:30) "After that, some grinding right here for the Moldsmal, and Moldsmal with no animation budget"
I always wondered why they always felt like paper when I attacked them.
Game maker had integer jank in an early update. Was more reliable to round a random generated number.
Not sure if that glitch was actually a thing when undertale was being developed. Depends on the date they started I guess.
sands undertall
Thanks Sans undertale
sonds sondertel
Actually, I looked it up, the random function only returns a float. The only way to get an integer would be to round it.
@@scrabblehandforaname That's because you use the irandom function for integers, so no, "the only way" is not to round random
This speedrun puts the "Dream" in "Hopes and Dreams".
9:44
The chances are one in...
1 Undecillion
214 Decillion
395 Nonillion
310 Octillion
965 Septillion
942 Sextillion
517 Quintillion
760 Quadrillion.
That is pretty big
@@Equal99 undecillion is a laughing stock. good luck measuring 8.91 novemnonagintillion
[all of these are real numbers, no jokes here]
I learned big numbers from cookie clicker not even gonna lie.
@@Exodim Though as impressive as that sounds, it's still easily beaten out by the more simply named googolplex, unfortunately. (Novemnonagintillion = 10^300, while googolplex = 10^(10^100) I've always thought googolplex is quite OP, though even it is dwarfed by other ridiculous numbers like Skewes's Number and Moser's Number, which are in turn made seemingly insignificant by the utter beast that is Graham's Number. Which is still exactly 0% of ∞ (infinity).
I know where talkin bout big things butttttt I’m gonna say that the smallest time mesurment is 1 billon trillion of a second [1 Zeptosecond] { correcte me if I’m wrong
@@styleparticulierthe smallest measurement of time is the planck time, which is how long it takes light (fastest moving thing in the universe) to move 1 planck length.
This was such an interesting video. I'd love to see more content like this for Undertale :)
I recently started watching Shayy...my lord is it unusual to see his short hair like that
So real
Witnessed this live and all i have to say is POPCORN CEILINGS ARE NOT BASED.
How dare you!?
I ruined the 69 likes
1:42 thanks, chara
Dream's raw probability without sampling bias is almost 1/3 of the biggest funni number.
Such a good video, would love to see more in this style if you enjoy making them
I really expected to to upload this run almost unedited, but what we got in the end is really great, cool video
I discovered that wall walking thing by accident doing a casual genocide run. Huh.
ah the 1.24 undecillion chance of a perfect sans
Amazing video shayy!! love your commentary dude
11:37 20 Hextillion/Sextillion for anyone who didn’t know.
OK the subscribing reminder cut to Chara killing you was a very excellent joke.
You got yourself a new subscriber
i LOVE how people tear into dream after he lied this many times. if he had come clean earlier id feel pity.
Guys, he wasn't cheating, he just has a really good gaming chair
Very well made and insightful. The magnitude of large numbers can be difficult to comprehend sometimes, so having something that illustrates it well is nice
Dude I can't explain on how much I love these videos. This dude is so chill and really skilled at the game.
if you think about it it's a 1 in 0 chance that run will occur purely because of the sans background
What is the sans background celebrating excactly?
@@jayleecardboard1243 pride month
A 1 in 0 chance is infinitely likely. A 1 in infinity chance is infinitely unlikely 🧐
But I want that background for all my enemies 😫
As a first impression to your channel, your editing is amazing! Keep up the good work and I hope you grow more :D
Oh look it’s my thing
4:29 The thing i find funniest about this is that, since i've worked with JavaScript where you can only get floating point randoms, i know that for an even distribution of integers you need to have the generation range *one unit higher* (and of course, exclusive on the upper bound, if it's inclusive you need to like subtract epsilon or something) and *floor it,* because rounding an even floating point distribution causes the bounds (0 and 30 in this case) to be individually half as likely as any other value. Indeed, not only is this an inefficient way of generating the number, but it's also not uniform.
Great video! It really lived up to my hopes and dreams!
This is actually is a pretty good show of the fastest time using current speed run strategies
Hey! I've been watching your twitch streams alot recently and I love them and so glad I found you here :D these videos are great man, keep up the good work :D
now THIS is content. awesome video Shayy!
bro how do you not have more viewers. i hope your channel takes off someday! you just got a subscriber (:
"I just played better."
Shayy then mashes his keyboard at 34m/s.
i honestly love the speedrun breakdown, it's super interesting.
4:07 I love the pannenkoek2012 reference! loving your videos :)
Videos like these make me want CZcams to add a feature to show you how many times you’ve rewatched a video
While minecraft luck effects the game much less then undertale luck, it is still crazy how much of an effect it does lmao
Minecraft has much more luck, but most of that comes in the form of the random seed. Top level Minecraft speedrunners can identify an unlucky run beforehand and just not play it.
Great analysis! Thanks for uploading!
Great job with this video, its pretty well made!
Really cool video, would be cool to see how this effects the tpe side of things. But I don't think tpe is that rng dependent.
5:04
Sans: EMERGENCY MEETING!
Frisk: who?
Sans it’s frisk they killed in front of me!
Frisk:FUUUUUUU
i normally wouldn't subscribe to a video like this but i wanna support such an underrated channel
Shayy: “I do not condone harassment towards anyone in the video for any reason”
Jerry:
Very spicy video Shayy!
ah yes, my favorite month
wave month
awesome video shay please make more
I think "Dream Luck" should be the new definition for "most optimal rng" for TAS just to troll forever
absolutely phenomenal video shayy! :)
0:25 “accidentally” yeah right 🙄
I really liked the video, keep up the content!
"Im dizzy. What am I looking at?"
"A murder, Paps."
Ah yes a sub 8:40 in a genocide rout, nothing at all suspicious. He just has a good gaming chair
very epic video shay my favorite part is when you yelled sans
thank you for using my sprite in the video! I’ve seen people use it a lot but never a decently big youtuber, so thank you!
what an underrated video. underrated channel in general! subscribed.
i dont remember commenting this but agreed
Fun idea for a video, Undertale speed run with as little inputs as possible (also really cool video love ur stuffs)
Never thought I'd ever see Undertale being used to attack someone.
"Attack"
9:46 is about 1 in one 1.214 undecillion~~
To express just how lucky those raw proabilities are, here is how much luckier Dream was in his modified speedrun than Shayy's.
Dream was 571428.571429 times luckier in raw probability
dream luck would just be enabling everytype of cheat modifying the kill requirements and exp gains to hit level 19
The amount of skill in those fights was just….
Funny
Hey man, just got recommended your video from a friend, glad to see you're doing well!
[Sans and papyrus] “WHAT IS THE HUMAN DOING SANS?” “Don’t know” [Frisk killing monsters]
5:50 that voice crack 😫
Ah yes casually speedrunning murdering every single monster in sight
i wish there were more speedruns like this since you get to see the best case rng run. or something
TAS runs usually use RNG manipulation to get the luck they need, so you could try those
One thing not pointed out in this, though, is that dream's "luck" was recorded over 6 whole streams. He did not get that level of absurdity in a single run, as anyone could clearly notice such a drastic difference. It was a scandal because it wasn't immediately obvious.
9:28 look mom there i am! Thats my name! That is very pogchamp
isn’t it crazy how even with a real speedrunner and major tool assistance it is still less than 5 minutes better than the best speedrunners best time, these people are not to be played with bro they are insane
gotta love the sm64 title screen song to explain undertale random encounters 4:09
You're a real CZcams for doing this, keep it up
I can legitimately believe that Dream forgot he had it enabled, even to this day.
He probably used it in Minecraft Manhunts so he wasn't spending 12 years in the nether for every video, and that's fine, obviously it makes the content more appealing and all that.
But... you can't be making that mistake and then denying it. I believe he even said "I didn't tho!" Or something like that and then went showing his "evidence" that he didn't, AFTER taking it out so he could show the evidence.
If you make a mistake, own up to it. That's something nearly EVERYONE needs to learn to do, including me.
If Dream just owned up to it, it wouldn't be so bad.
Now sure, if he just said at the start "no way, I didn't cheat!" and didn't realize, only learning later that he cheated, he could have owned up to it then and there... but he didn't.
I can sort of see why he didn't, again it didn't really do that much for him, but that was still an incredibly stupid move on his part... in fact I'd call it a CZcams moment, for all you RTGame fans out there
I suppose it was a gamble, but he lost...
11:27
And like you said here
*His cheating didn't even get him a WR*
That. _THAT_ exact reason is why I can believe he didn't do it on purpose.
It didn't do much of anything for him despite being so lucky.
It was made for the content.
I have a bridge I would like to sell you.
Dream's luck wasn't just taken from a single game, it was the fact that he got really good luck in a lot of runs in a row that got the insanely lucky probability which you show at the end. Instead, you showed an insane luck in a single run. The video was really entertaining tho nice 👍
I enjoyed the informative style here.
“Guys I’m not cheating I just got lucky with the 730 ender pearls”-dream
11:15 Yeah, but Dream's 1/7.5 trillion RNG was spread out over many, many runs. That's why it was not noticeable to players watching just the WR. 1/875 billion in a single run would obviously destroy the category.
“Dream luck” (aka cheating)
This would be an interesting category extension.
Dream's luck type videos are one of the things that was needed in today's world, i always had curiosity about how games can change that much if you actually have good RNG and with these videos, it is very satisfying to see