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"we should look at stopping 18/19 year olds being sent to war" - Absolutely. How in the hell do you not have millions of subs?
Amen!
Instead of giving 18/19 year olds guns and having them die in for profit war we should give them shovels and hammers to help us rebuild the u.s. infrastructure today we get a D+ I want the u.s. to get an A+ and have the most advanced and the best infrastructure in the world. The miltary can help us rebuild it where it will keep us safe and we can enjoy the benefits
Give it time. The first video was only a month ago, after all. And he's already got a nice chunk of subscribers. I get the feeling this is a channel that's gonna see a nice climb over the following months.
This guy might be the best American on youtube. Common sense, real thinking and no hyperbole... I'm having a hard time believing he's real. If he gets big I think America has a lot to gain from him.
YES! I've said that soooo many times and people always act like it's a radical idea.
"When a guy is changing a magazine, that's the time to get further away, not closer to it." Wise words for those willing to listen.
Oh wanted to add there is no ban or anything that will fix the issue. Systematic changes and restructuring of school policies is all that can prevent school attacks. The real issue is improper schooling, low paid teachers, lack of counselors, all kids set on same path (capable.ornnot), simple fact it's been turned into a battle zone not a safe place of learning. The mindset of bullying and not having a real advocate is a deep issue.
@@lmanburge2.059 absolutely, pay people a living wage and give everyone health care and mental health support does more to stop mass shootings not f_ing bans.
Except that when the cops show up, that presents a perfect opportunity to take their shot at the guy. And the more time he spends reloading, the more precious seconds you have to escape.
I actually laughed!
It also sounds like a fairly good reason to ban high capacity magazines. Or t least, is there any reason not to?
"We should focus on stopping 18- and 19-year-old kids from getting shipped off to war."
As someone who enlisted at 17 -years-old, this resounded loudly when I came back home after 9 years of service and saw how young 17 really is.
Word.
Thank you for saying that.
“Why do we want THOSE kinds of people as cops?”
Question many of us have been asking for years, Beau.
Maybe they’ll listen when you say it instead.
One can only hope...
Bad cops need held accountable. There has to be signs to lead up to this, they don’t look. They need numbers in uniforms and quick. If cops aren’t out on the streets driving those cruisers they’re not making any money. They’re training is pathetic and it is HARDER and takes longer to become a barber than it is a freaking cop, a GOOD COP has to pay lots and lots of money and spend lots of they’re own free time and pay OUT OF THEY’RE OWN POCKET, to get well trained, and good cops know this. Our military has stricter control in full blown war zones than our police do and they’re threats are much much higher. Cops training should be much much longer, and much more vetted than what it is.
@@dean733 It is by design
Best non-emotional information I have heard and I don't like guns, Period. I like to hear factual explanations that do not include yelling. A highly emotional topic that needs some level headed discussions. Thanks for this Beau.
Pat S same
I say this as someone who does like guns and has been ostracized by my dad's side of the family because of it.
Watch a Forgotten weapons video.
Their historical, informational, primarily focused on disassembly and markings.
I ask you to do this because well I understand your dislike of firearms, I doubt if you can understand my (and others) like of them.
Hey Joel ~ I am real sorry for your challenges with one side of the family. You are mistaken about my understanding about others liking them. I hail from PA and my family all hunt and are responsible gun owners which I do not condemn. I have personal reasons for not liking them which I do not believe in imposing on others. I do however, believe there are real issues with allowing people who are NOT responsible to keep them. There is a middle ground to be had if those with special interest would stay out of the mix.
My father and me are really into target shooting. Mostly shotguns with clay targets. Neither of us are really interested in hunting. We've used it to bond since I was very young. My father was very strict with safety rules and constantly enforced them. Thankfully we never had any injuries, but that's because we took a safe and respectful approach. I'm thankful to have that opportunity to be raised with such a positive relationship with guns. I still enjoy shooting with him and friends and constantly practice safe shooting.
I'm a gun guy and I agree with everything this dude is saying. This is real shit. Guns in the hands of responsible people are not a problem. The problem is figuring out who IS responsible and who isn't. Secondary problem, illegal distribution.
This isn’t something I say lightly. As a liberal man (and a schoolteacher) who previously thought a ban on guns was a logical solution, this is an amazing video. Thank you for creating this video, it’s been a while since I’ve heard such a good point
@@Thekozmonautu name one thing he said that was false
We have got to make this man big. He has to be heard. Sensible, informative and as non partisan as u can get nowdays
Yeah I thought his videos were a bit sweet talkish and then suddenly Anti-Weapon Control is an incredibly bad thing. Look up the meaning of the 5th column on the internet. Now look at this video from Beau from a year ago
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Be careful who you want to pin up on Mount Rushmore. Did you wonder maybe who paid to have his videos on your suggested watch list when this isn't your kind of material?
@@whispermason8052 ~ stop linking to youtube vids of this guy...the actual court documentation about the human trafficking (cause let's face it - that's precisely what it was) is much more powerful. details about making these people pay a ridiculous amount of money from a minimum wage job, then threats if people spoke out. i can't believe i wasted any of my time listening to this guy. smh. here's the court documentation: www.justice.gov/sites/default/files/criminal-hrsp/legacy/2010/07/29/09-21-07threemen-indictment.pdf
All I did was link videos of himself talking so that people would understand what the term "Fifth Column" means. Once the "AR-15 is the Good Guy" video was posted it was clear he was trying to subvert left leaning people into being pro NRA. I've stopped a while ago. I proved my point. Thanks for the advice.
The information needs to be heard. The person giving it doesn’t matter (though the WAY it’s given is important too.)
He's a little left but nowadays being mid center partial left is the best thing to be
"There is gun control that could work and I believe it was brought up after the Parkland Shooting..." (Oh no please God don't say arm the teacher don't say arm the teachers)
"Raise the purchasing age to 21"
*Bless you Beau*
As a teacher, I've long argued that politicians who know nothing about education, shouldn't be making testing, and other education laws, because they don't know what they are talking about. You're very right. We need experts, at least advising on all areas of law, especially this most dangerous topic. Thanks again for the needed information. I wish more people had it.
Mandy Vigna @ betsy devos
I agree. True with almost all professions really... People in Washington should be replaced by real "professionals" 😜
Kalida
But...but... the elites....are....evil (if not dumb)
Being sarcastic
As a former teacher, I'm right there with you.
The problem is, politicians as a group mostly know about getting elected, and very little else. So by this principle, they probably shouldn't be making laws about much of anything.
Omg! I didn’t realize how off we are! As a liberal for gun control-I’m shocked that it never occurred to me that I am holding an opinion about something I know nothing about.
Thank you for the education.
As a left of left liberal, your 1st video was very interesting. You've made me rethink my position on gun control. Damn it.
gun control in america objectively makes zero sense. You need to let go of the emotional arguments and think about the facts logically
I'm really glad someone has the sense and bravery to admit the change, a lot of people are just unaware and scared of backlash from their community.
Same, if I'm wrong about something or misinformed it's my job to think about it and reconsider my position
There is nothing inherently leftist about opposing gun rights.
www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/the-left-has-the-stronger-case-for-gun-ownership/
Me, too😔
"stopping 18-19 year old from being shipped off to war".... Can I vote for that? Cause I'm really on board with that!
A possible solution for the 18 year old who moved out: proof of resistance and mandatory training at a range, kinda like a learner's permit for a car.
Problem solved.
@@BeauoftheFifthColumn you are kinda wrong on that murder rate fact. the murder rate in modern european countries is up to 10! times lower than in the USA. Stricter gun laws are in places for 70+ years and it works. The chance to get shot by a cop in the USA is only half the chance beeing murdered in Germany;)
@@ilmephax While that's true, I think the point he made is that it was also true before those countries passed their gun laws. If you compare the murder rate before an after in a country like Germany, the ban didn't have the desired effect. The difference that makes gun violence so prevalent in the US is more than just easy access to firearms.
@@hooliganj391 yeah thats kinda the mistake. we have strict gun laws for 70 years and the murder rate went down during those years.
we had one school shooting... laws were changed and we didnt have one for 15 years or so...
Rewatching in late May 2022. This series needs to be mandatory viewing for any and all reporters covering mass fatality shootings.
It’s the series that got me hooked on your channel. Thanks for years of rationale thought.
It's men like you (common sense)that need to be making the laws in the USA. I agree with everything you said about guns.
I'm a former Navy corpsman who has seen the effect of gun violence. I'm no longer a fan of guns, but I love your videos big fan. Thanks for being factual
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It's so hard to find anyone on CZcams who won't talk down to you & make you feel like an idiot. It makes it very hard to see their point of view. You sir do not do that. I appreciate it. Kept me engaged. I'm someone on the left who tries really hard to see another person't point of view. I've learned a lot about guns here.
If the right & the left wing would come together & compromise on these issues & if we can talk about these things it would be much better for our country. But unfortunately they don't want to do that.
@Rooster Cogburn a very accurate self description.
I’m sure leftists are open to the idea just as much, but the ones power don’t want u to know that. Divide and conquer.
I agree
@@RojaJaneman As a leftist, what we've been wanting is for someone to take some kind of action. Beau has called the gun control ideas on the far left "thoughts and prayers", but we've been asking for them because (at least for me) Beau is the first person on the pro-gun side of the debate who is offering more than literal thoughts and prayers. He's offering solutions instead of saying there's nothing we can do and letting God sort things out.
Your note about ages reminded me of something a friend in law school told me one time - you don't make the drinking age to stop 18 year olds from getting alcohol. They will. You do it to stop 16 year olds. You set the limit a bit more conservative than it needs to be, knowing people will break it. If you don't want people breaking 80 mph on a road, you don't set the speed limit at 80, you set it at like 65 or so. 18 year olds who can buy guns easy will mean 16 year olds will have guns pretty easy. Setting it to 21 means it's only 18 year olds, not 16 year olds
I’m very pro gun. Very. You seem like a very reasonable guy. Gun regulation makes just as much sense as automobile regulations. I think the most important thing is that we as gun owners secure our firearms. Even from our family.
Exactly. Unfortunately not every gun owner has been taking that responsibility, thus the cries for gun regulation. If more gun owners treated their guns as dangerous tools, secured them in cabinets, reported when their weapons were stolen, ensured the people they were selling to were allowed to own guns, and only pulled them out when they planned to use them, then there wouldn't even be a debate.
Automobile regulations vary
Mr407Mike there a plenty of speed options for vaults. For single pistol to full safes
Julian Birch I don’t know a single legal gun owner that wouldn’t report a stolen firearm. Frankly put it’s a myth. The only reason you wouldn’t report a 400+ dollar item stolen is if you had something to hide. And I’m not sure what you mean by pulling them out all the time but the use of force regulations are clearly defined and typically followed. In other words there typically is not many instances where self defenders shoot people unlawfully
Johnny Bgood so what is your point? Comparing a regulation built for a mode of transportation that can be dangerous if misused and a weapon that is dangerous if used at all is completely retarded. Neither have anything in common other than if people used them better we would have less issues.
"A Garand is a 30-06. Anyone who knows firearms just got a lump in their throat thinking about some kid with a Garand in a school"
DON'T READ ME LIKE THAT.
I literally muttered "aw fuck" at that part.
I thought lasted 2 seconds in my head and i could hear my soul scream "sweet GOd no"
Yeah, I’m way far from a gun nut and all I could think was, there won’t any just injured,
If part of the reason the AR-15 style rifle is popular comes down to the way it looks, etc., is it really fair to argue that the Garand will take its place? Certainly, part of this is personal preference, but it lacks that same visual appeal.
@@johnwatters3431 Well, the reason the AR is the most popular rifle in the US is more than aesthetic- watching the first video in this series goes over that in more detail. The reason the Garand came up is because after the AR-15 and the Mini-14, the Garand is probably the most widely distributed rifle in the US. The ammunition for it is plentiful too, because 30-06 is a popular hunting round. Popular, and powerful- powerful enough to penetrate cinder block walls, which I know from personal experience to be a very popular choice for constructing schools. If you remove the AR-15 from the equation, this is what some school shooters will default back to. That’s not a situation we want to create.
The bit about cops and domestic violence. Seriously dude, you are one guy who sees the system for what it is. You have to have at least a million subs, man!
"...focus on stopping 18-19 year olds getting shipped off to war..."
MIND BLOWN. No truer words could have ever been spoken.
If there was a way for me to make your "let's talk about guns, guns control and school shooting series" go viral by myself by just pushing a button. I would have pushed it a million times already. Everything you said has been spot-on. Everyone needs to hear you speak about this issue. There is a saying we say up north. "TRUE STORY"and that's what you've been telling. Just a little shout out from the Bronx New York.
Coming back and watching some older videos and they are just as excellent as your later videos. I am honestly impressed.
Thank you again Sir. I've been one of those liberals believing banning certain guns would help the problems. Better gun control. I watched both parts. I'm 65. I have hated guns my whole life. Having an incident with a gun at the age of 20, made me hate them and believed the incident would not have happened if a gun wasn't there. Accidents Don't happen with a gun if there is no gun in first place. You have turned my thinking completely around. I was uneducated on guns. You gave me good sensible information. I just those gun people listen to what your saying. I'm spreading the word m
How long have you been viewing youtube videos?
@@whispermason8052 why
@@whispermason8052 why did you ask that question?
@@whispermason8052 - Why is that important? Are you about to list a number of videos that are heavy on the 'liberals want to take away guns' while also cheerleading for certain types of guns? Or do you think that someone who dislikes guns would go searching for gun videos on CZcams and maybe run across your personal choice for the Jack Chick of vloggers and be magically converted?
@@julietfischer5056 No. I can reason that responding to someone's post of 3 weeks ago would be answered if you happened to pop on and see something in your in box, but now having 2 responses within an hour of my posting from two people who completely don't have anything to do with the question I just asked doesn't seem normal either. What is it to you that I asked that question Tim and Juliet?
"The gun problem is relatively new." Exactly. My dad's generation went to school with guns hanging in their trucks and there were no school shootings. This is a problem that runs deep in society separate from guns.
What do you think has changed since then that would explain the big difference between then and now?
@@horsepanther people are different.
@@horsepanther entitlement. It's a national crisis that nobody is talking about.
You must be quite old. Mass shootings (and school or college shootings) have been *routine* since 1956.
What is different?
The destruction of labor unions.
The outsourcing of manufacturing to other countries, taking away jobs.
The outsourcing was done to cheapen labor costs for corporations. This in turn drove wages down, making it impossible to earn a solid wage, buy a home, a car every few years, and have health care.
We used to be able to have one income and do the above thongs.
"Banning all 'zoomy' cars." What a great analogy!
And the car community cringes
I really liked this analogy!
Hey Beau, it's internet people here. This is eery, I'm rewatching your old videos here in May 2022, in the wake of Uvalde TX, and the impending abortion ban. You touched briefly on both endless topics which are still raging years after this video was recorded. I wish my country were different. This feels like the darkest timeline
Your delivery and demeanor is amazing. You're tackling some rough topics and saying things that would piss off both sides, yet the comments are filled with people agreeing with your points because of how you said it. Fantastic. Subbed.
While I love the thought of responsible gun ownership, my issue is with it is how fear, legislation and advocacy are rarely used with the black community.
People can say it's not a race thing, but people get a bit squirrelly when black folks carry, and gun control has a tendency to punch down in the worst of ways.
Good video as always Beau
Reagan and the NRA supported gun control one time: when the black panthers legally marched on Sacramento with their rifles.
Folks are catching on. Even Adam ruins everything did a video on gun control and black American gun rights.
Personally I love seeing folks of color practicing self defense or sighting in hunting rifles at the range.
One time I was visiting a range closer to the city and two older black men were shooting a AR15 for the first time. I could tell they were new to guns in general, so I asked if I teach them a few things I wished I knew when I was new to the gun. With their consent I demonstrated that my firearm was empty and then went through field stripping with them. Taking it apart, putting it back together and checking for function.
Y'all have white allies in the gun community, not enough of course, but we are out there.
I can listen to this guy all day. I love listening to facts and calm reasoning on a lot of subjects.
How about for those people that need firearms for self protection at 18-21 they can apply with their local sheriffs office to get permission to buy a firearm before their 21st birthday. The sheriffs office cannot track the firearms or register it, only look at evidence such as threats and other evidence of stalking and decide whether it warrants being able to buy a firearm before the age of 21
In re argument 1 it's worth noting that people in the military has to be trained to use weapons, and if they fail they don't get to use a firearm. Also, an 18yo returning from war can't legally go drinking.
We should be working on "kid control (raising)"
I was hoping someone with reach would talk about "toxic masculinity", which is really what you are addressing here. Thank you. Coming from the standpoint of a woman, I find it disgusting. In come the "incels". No surprise that most women don't want them. No surprise that women are who they blame.
"Maybe we should be focused on not shipping 18-19 year olds off to war" PREACH! And 100% agreed on closing the DV loopholes.
"Why do we want those types of people as cops?" Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you thank you.
An idea I've been very hesitant to put out there about how we might put a big curb, not fully solve, but would be a very big step in the right direction. Is to add, nationwide, a disqualifier to anyone being able to legally hold the position of a patrol police officer, or indeed any police officer where it is requisite that they carry a weapon capable of inflicting deadly force. I'll post what that disqualifier would be a bit later. But first let me express that this idea is extremely unfair to those officers it would disqualify. It is something that will rightfully be viewed as a very wrong thing to do to these people. I agree, it would be a massive injustice, and a harsh shift in how we choose those individuals who may serve in this role.
The item that I'm talking about is if a person has been involved, in any way shape or form, in the death of another human being. Regardless of if that occured in military service during combat. Regardless of if it happened in self defence. Regardless of if it was an auto accident. Any set of circumstance that led to the death of another human being, I say should disqualify a person from being hired to do a job where they may very well be put into that situation again.
You know what's also unfair. The fact that we don't already use this as a disqualifier. It forever changes a person, when they are involved in the death of another human being. There is never any going back from this place. The fact that we hire people into jobs where they could face this again is insane. It is massively wrong that we would be so irresponsible.
If you find yourself wondering if this is a good idea or not. Imagine the following scenario. It's 3AM. Your driving home, and suddenly blue and red flashing lights illuminate behind your vehicle. You pull over to the side of the road. It's dark and quiet and lonely. Who do you want that officer to be? Someone who's never taken the life of another person? Or an officer with a history of shooting and killing individuals during traffic stops. At 3AM, on dark, lonely, quiet roadways. I know who'd I prefer. Who would you prefer?
#endhatrednow
Yes! YES! YESSSSS!!! To paraphrase, "Lets look at how we can stop sending our 18 & 19 kids to war"!!! Beau this is beautiful. Thank you. Now we have to spread the word...this idea that should have been out there a long time ago!
18 & 19 *year old* kids...
You're quickly becoming one of my favourite online commentators. Thanks for clarifying such a scary topic.
Beau, thank you so much. I have no experience with guns, and this video helped me understand part of why some gun control ideas won’t work. Even more than that, you were calm and not condescending. We need more people like you. Thank you.
"Regulating the actual design stuff ... is a lot like outlawing abortion"
_Aged like a fine wine_
This should be watched today by everyone
These videos were very educational. Thank you. You have helped me to find new ideas to discuss with people.
just started watching after seeing part 1 .... REALLY looking forward to this video.... we need to have logical conversations from both sides .....I also say that, meaning gun owners who also want REASONABLE gun reform, and not just far left (I say that from the left) "ban every gun" stuff
This video, actually, all 3 of them should be required viewing for everybody, and I do mean everybody. Just makes so much sense.
You touched great points here. I Visited an AZ household for a washer repair. Dad had the Camouflage suit in the laundry room.. I saw his 9 year old excitedly showing me the $700.00 Arrow or whatever it's called. So, thats all they learn in the rural areas from their parents.
Sir your channel will be getting a lot more subs.
He should at the LEAST have 2 million
Thank you for doing these videos, I'd already known some parts of what you were talking about and in particular the two suggestions you made, but I still learned more from you that I would not have known otherwise.
As a Vermont resident, we've been having a legislative tussle to get the second of your suggestions a reality due in no small part to several Domestic Violence incidents involving police officers up here. Reasonable discussion will get us closer to a solution than screaming matches and I really appreciate your efforts to create such discussion.
Beau, it wasn't a lump in my throat at the thought of an .06 in schools, my blood went f-ing cold.
Thank you for giving me basic info. You're never boring, dude. So happy you make videos
I have always been on the Pro-Gun side things. These are among the 1st of your vids that I found in 2018 upon discovering your channel. Even knowing everything that you said in them, hearing someone who “presents” like you, with your knowledge talk about these things was extremely impactful on my thinking. Almost like a call out & my view of gun control & gun culture changed….A LOT. So please keep talking about it, they are having a important impact. Thanks Beau.
Beau for President!!!!! Beau is a prime example of how our government should work! Soooo many politicians see things on the right or left side and they can't weigh all options/solutions for the betterment of all the people! Not to mention taking all the money they do to serve their donators and not the people as a whole! I love the way you think Beau, you remind me of myself!!!!
So im not from the US, i live in Sweden. In Sweden its legal to own a belt-fed machine gun if you have a reason for owning it. There are four main reasons to own a gun in sweden, they are hunting, sport, collecting or security (thats like foreign embassy personel, not personal protection). The guns are regulated in a lot of ways but to break it down somewhat:
Its illegal to own incendiary or explosive ammunition. This is the only thing thats banned.
For hunting you cant normaly get a semi-auto rifle with a box magazine. Only semi-auto with fixed magazines and a capacity of less then 5 rounds. Normaly you have a bolt action rifle.
For hunting you can get a revolver handgun without sights but no semi-auto pistols.
If you want to own more then 6 guns for hunting you need to clarify why to the police. It can be for example if your kids hunt.
For sport you can get whatever semi-auto you want, and in some cases full-auto military style weapons. But to own a weapon for sport shooting you need to be a active member of a club and go to the club regulary.
For collecting you can get most weapons, even anti-armour and so on, but the ammunition is very hard to get by.
Sweden is in the top 5 countrys with most weapons per capita.
The most common gun death by legal weapons are suicide. Gun deaths are usually done by illegal guns and in gang on gang violence. And there are no shortage of illegal guns because of all the wars in Europe. There have been news reports that if you buy a illegal automatic rifle you can get handgrenades as a bonus gift.
The largest tragedy in a school by violence is three dead by sword/knife in 2015, we have had mass shootings, most famous is a military officer shooting and killing seven people in 1994.
Statistics are hard to compare between countrys like you did now. For example a robbery with 5 robbers are considered 5 crimes in Sweden but would in most states in the USA be considered 1 crime. People dying by crime is easy to compare in a per capita way and in the USA you are 6 times more likely to be murdered (all murders not just guns) then in Sweden. Im not presenting a solution to gun control just giving some info from a other perspective.
Keep up your great work, love it.
Beau, your voice, or one very much like it, should testify in front of the current House of Representatives where these points can be laid out to policy makers and the public at large. The 2nd Amendment / Gun Control debate seems to be purposefully structured to be endless, like the wars on terror and drugs, and that needs to be called out. Also, if you have a chance to comment on what is happening with the NRA these days. They seem to be laying low- I hardly see a commercial for them anymore. I'd be interested in your take on whether the Mueller investigation is an existential threat to their future as the primary gun manufacturer's lobby. Looking forward to your 3rd installment in this series. Cheers.
Honestly, my favorite suggestion for Gun Control is variation on a system we already have here in Massachusetts, where, in order to get a gun license, you have to have a background check and take a gun safety class (aka don't put your loaded unholstered gun in your waistband and other dumb things people do with guns because they think it looks cool, etc.)
Hey Beau new subscriber here. I love your videos. They're thoughtful, informative, even-keeled. I only have one issue but it is a recurring one and that's the glare that happens in the center of the screen when you move around sometimes. Because you demonstrate on camera sometimes and because of your lovely mug I do pay attention to the screen when I enjoy your show. But if I get the glare spot too often I feel my eyes becoming strained. Don't know if that will be an easy fix for ya and it won't stop me coming back. Love from across the internet!
The means argument is a little flawed, especially since per capita murder has gone down in regulated countries. I agree the cat is out of the bag in US, though. Outright bans punish innocent buyers in a culture that likes guns. If we could shift the culture away from it's hardon for the military, guns, power, etc, it could go a long way.
What he meant is that the murder rates were already going down in those countries. That's true. It's also going down in the US. So what he's saying is that while the murder rate did decrease in those countries, it likely would have anyway.
@@UltimateBreloom Another important distinction about those other countries is that most have something like M4A which includes mental health care- good mental health care. Anton Brevik in Norway completely blows their minds- a healthy mind does not do these things. There is a video of a Norwegian town meeting- and they do get "excited" but I didn't see any guns or knives pulled, or even much physical threat. But there is some excitement!
The "Assault Weapon" label is one I've argued...EVERY item used to attack someone is an assault weapon, weather it's a club, a sword, a gun, a vehicle, or a bomb it is a weapon you are using to assault someone. But until it is used it is just an item. The INTENTION behind the item, what the person uses it for, NOT the item itself is what makes it good or bad. And I completely ONE HUNDRED PERCENT agree with finding ways that we don't ship kids of to fight, and possibly die, in wars. It is horrible that we can take kids out of High School and immediately send them to a camp, teach them how to be soldiers, then ship them off before they have a chance to actually be adults.
also, if you notice your kid acting distant, depressed, or aggressive. please for the love of god talk to them, ask them whats going on, what theyre feeling and what you can do to help them. so many of these tragedies could be prevented if the parents would have taken note of their kids behavior, addressed it, and offered help. your kid may act like a good boy in the right company but you dont know whats going on inside their head unless you ask, let them know you give a damn about them. same goes for your friends.
I have another thought...but first just to say that I appreciate this channel and your approach to discussing these issues.
So the thing I want to address is the whole "what about an 18 year old that moves out on their own and needs a firearm to defend themselves?"
I've lived most of my younger life in places like Atlanta and DC. (FWIW I'm also an Army veteran so am familiar with firearms, not that that should be a qualifier for someone participating in this debate.) With pretty clear-eyed hindsight, there's not a single episode in my life where I can say "wow, I really could've used a firearm in that situation." (Though I can think of several in which having a firearm would've resulted in MUCH worse outcomes.)
If one is not mature enough to "practice good fieldcraft" and avoid situations where they'd 'need' a firearm, then they're not mature enough to be a "responsible gun owner."
Oh, one more thing...when the gun cult(ure) loses the ability to accurately define "tyranny," at what point should it lose its right to "defend against" it with lethal force? One's favored candidate losing a free and fair election is NOT "tyranny."
Ultimately, I agree with your larger point...there are 1) so many firearms in civilian hands in this country, and 2) so many people who think "patriotism" means thumbing one's nose at actual responsible gun ownership, that there's really nothing to be done at this point that will make any difference in my lifetime.
I believe in public schooling, and I really want my rising kindergartener to attend public school. Public education is one of the founding cornerstones of the American experiment in self-governance. I really hope she survives the experience.
Hey Beau I agree with most of what you said minus the part about how the crime rates changes in other countries. From my understanding the murder rates did drop significantly, maybe if you can link some stuff on the stats? Also your point in changing the method of murder is a mute point. Like the example you gave was arson right? Can you outrun a fire or a bullet? My best example of this is that after a shooting on a train, people said a knife could be used to kill just as many, but a knife would be easier to evade, outrun, and disarm. Changing the method can be somewhat safer.
I got the impression from Beau that he was saying the trend line had remained the same(in this case, the global OECD trend of reduced murder rate), not that actual murders had remained the same
As an owner of an M1 Garand, and particularly as one in New York, I'm actually really glad that you brought that up in this video. It's always been something with the SAFE Act that's left me stupified. Because I am much MUCH more terrified of the idea of a kid walking into a school with a Garand than an AR. I know how accurate it is, and how fast it is to load an en-bloc clip. And because of the overpenetration potential of a .30-06 round and the danger it'd pose to my neighbors, I'd turn to my bayonet for home defense before I'd turn to my Garand.
I love how even though it is a toy, he still practices perfect gun safety. My father would be proud.
I don't know why you said the first video was boring. I haven't been bored by any of your videos so far. Insightful and reasonable.
I have to admit that I am all over the map when it comes to guns, but mostly I oppose them... or rather, I oppose most people being in possession of them.
I used to travel to other countries a lot. Nearly always, the first question I'm asked is how many guns I own. They are always surprised when I answer "none". I'm proud to break the stereotype. Invariably, the next question is how many times I've been shot at. Unfortunately, my answer brings the stereotype back into sharp focus. I've had guns fired at me 6 times. Three of those times were pure accidents, one was mistaken identity (I was on a public walking trail and a young hunter thought I was a deer). Twice I was shot at with intent, and one of those times I was hit. Fortunately, the time I was hit, it was with a sawed off shotgun with bird shot and I was sufficiently far away that it stung like the dickens, but did no serious damage. I was 13 years old at the time. The last time, I think they only intended to scare me because it was several guys with automatic weapons who were firing in my direction as I fled on my mountain bike, but I could see the dirt and rocks dance from the bullets in front of me, so I definitely felt threatened. In none of these cases was I doing anything that any reasonable person would think made me deserving of being shot at. So yeah, I have a bad attitude about guns and gun owners.
When I was about 10 years old, one of my friends accidentally killed his sister with his father's gun. Another young person I knew committed suicide with her father's gun. I got my Rifle and Shotgun Shooting merit badge in Boy Scouts. So I was well trained how to handle firearms, but I would go hunting with my buddies and they were dangerously clueless. I decided not to hunt with them... one of them was seriously injured in a hunting accident about a year later. I had a friend who carried a gun in her purse, for protection. Her purse was snatched. The gun turned up 6 months later, dumped after a botched robbery where a convenience store clerk was shot. One of my friends was shot point blank in the chest with his own gun, by an acquaintance who broke in to steal his gun (my friend miraculously survived). So yeah, I have a bad attitude about guns and gun owners
I hear people say the best way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. I have several issues with this:
(1) every bad guy with a gun thinks he's a good guy with a gun.
(2) Even if you are what I might call a good guy with a gun at some point, are you always a good guy with a gun? What if you get drunk? What if you lose your job? What if you become depressed? What if you get angry at your wife or your neighbor or the guy who cut you off on the highway? What if you have a mental breakdown?
(3) What if you are legitimately trying to stop a bad guy with a gun? How are the police supposed to know you're the good guy?
As a general rule, humans are very bad at statistics. That's why so many people play the lottery or vacation in Vegas. It is also why so many of them own guns. They think that they and their family are safer with a gun in the house. Statistics say otherwise, but there is no reasoning with them.
I have long come to terms with the realization that things will not likely change in the US. I just have to be satisfied that statistically, I am not very likely to be shot (again).
I feel you. Number two is why I personally don't own a gun - there's more situations where it's a problem than a solution. If someone's going to come at me, violently, they're going to do so suddenly and without giving me sufficient time to grab said gun. And if they know I have it...well there's just one more thing they might steal when I'm not at home. They truely are a liability for those of us who do not have offensive intent.
@@archibaldt.6 I live in Texas and have a few cop friends. They tell me the best way to make sure your car gets broken into is put a "Come and take it" bumper sticker on it.
@@quinnmendel449 I have coworkers who hide their similar bumper stickers every chance they get. Kinda funny how broadcasting that you have expensive stuff works, huh. My car's filthy, my clothes plain, and I've not once had a problem with car break-ins.
Your story has holes in it! try again!
This whole series is a crystal ball. Rewatching it is a head trip
I mostly agree, but we also have to be honest at why the ar 15 and the ak 47 and the many variations of them are labeled as assult rifles. it was a marketing thing done by the manufacturers of these guns.
I grew up with seeing rifles that did not have the pistol grip. I grew up not seeing all the flash that is on these guns. maybe it was just me, but I did not see people pop off as many shots or as fast with a 30-06.
yeah, I am also against banning semi automatic rifles. so not sure where I am on this.
10 round mags, yeah, it might not stop a shooting. yeah, they can be switched out in nearly no time, but as this new Zealand shooter, dropped a mag, had a couple issues reloading under the stress. fine motor skills do diminish a bit under stress.
piston grip is a more effect grip for most people. the tradition grip did keep people from using rifles. yes, it is true that a person with a couple experiences with either grip is just as effective (guessing here as I am not looking at stats and just going off memory and personal experience).
again, I cant really blame the people who have no experience with guns and rifles with calling them assult or military style as that was a big marketing promotion by the manufacturers that is now coming back to bite all of us in the ass. educating people is the best defense right now. also having the conversation is an option.
I think you'll find the term was used way back after WW2 when a variety of rifles were produced as alternative to the traditional long-barreled bolt-action battle rifle used by armies up to then. The new rifles were developed cos it was realised soldiers only needed to fire at things a few hundred yards away, not a mile, and needed rapid-fire. So shorter self-loading rifles with big magazines, smaller ammunition (more could be carried), selectable fire(semi or full auto) were so distinct from what went before and so suitable for troops on the move they were termed assault rifles when they were military only, long before marketing got involved.
I think banning the word "assault rifle" from marketing alone could make a difference. A lot of Beau's suggestions are centered on changing the culture around guns. We need to separate the idea of guns and assaulting people.
Thank you for being frank and honest about what and how things are rather than should be. Gun overview's stepping through the anatomy, while demonstrating ineffective control measures proposed and the history and culture around it. Have you considered adding a summary quiz to your gun literacy videos?
Beau I’m here in Canada I would be willing to bet that per capita there is less deaths by violence than that of the states. I think easy access to weapons during altercations seems to be the first thing they use. Then there is more lead flying that kill by stray bullets . Gun culture puts gun as the first line of defence.
I, as a liberal, immigrant, military veteran, and gun owner, salute you with your well articulated, eloquent, fact-based discussion on guns. Anyone, both pro-gun AND anti-gun, should watch your videos first before they even attempt to open their mouths and allow their vocal cords to convey their thoughts. Their arguments are either based on ignorance (antis) or misplaced priorities (pros), and both sides certainly are prone to letting emotions trump their logic and reason. I wish I could upload your three-part videos into everyone's minds. How is it that you have fewer than 100K subscribers, while make-up tutorial channels have millions?
Interesting that "I need it to protect myself" is such a big argument for you. If I needed a gun "to protect myself", the first thing I'd ask is "Why do I live in a country where I need a gun?"
Great video overall, very illuminating.
To protect myself against whom, home invaders and burglars? Why do I need an arsenal for that, and a mountain of ammunition. He is correct. the problem is the gun culture crowd, who has this imagined enemy. They say it is the government but they are okay with the police owning military vehicles and equipment. And, the police shooting unarmed people with impunity, protected by "qualified immunity." Seems to be a big contraction here.
@@garrick1117 Right.
Beau, thanks for the straight talk, very much needed. Have you discussed the ammo? Seems to me that limiting or banishing ammo that is armor piercing grade would be another usefull potential law change. Why would anyone need armour piercing ammo. Perhaps the focus shouldn't be on the weapons, but the ammunitions? Just a thought?
The more I view your vids the more I think you should be Sheriff and a common sense professor.. Keep the great vids comin...
It was absolutely NOT boring sir. Thank very much for your input.
Beau, it really is a shame that not all Americans think as you do on this topic. Up here in Canada, we realise that guns don't cause murder but they do sure make it easier. What we've done is a bit different than talking points from both sides of the American argument. I swear, sometimes I wish that you Yanks would pay more attention to us 'Nucks because you might actually see things you like. This is what Canada has done:
For example, repeating bolt-action .38 centrefire rifles are fully legal because they are considered to be hunting weapons. Similarly, .22-calibre repeating bolt-action rimfire rifles are so popular in Canada that we used to make our own. It was a rather famous gun maker called Lakefield (before it became swallowed up by some "Savage" Yankee gunmaker). I can't think of a reason why anyone in urban to rural areas in southern Canada would need anything more than a .38 bolt-action. They're just as much fun to shoot at targets with as a .50-calibre rifle and they're better at longer ranges than .22-calibre. Having said that, unless you're a real hunter, using a .22-calibre bolt-action rifle for targets and bottles is just as much fun to do as with a .38 and it costs WAY less for the gun itself and ammo.
Semi-auto rifles are available but a lot of hunters are perfectly fine with more conventional bolt-action .38 centrefire designs. Semi-auto rifles aren't a necessary hunting weapon because being a hunter is essentially being a sniper. One shot is all you need to take down a deer or moose if you aim right and if you don't, very few people hunt alone so you'd be looking at three to five bullets hitting the mark.
I do think that a semi-auto rifle is a necessity in Canada's north because there ARE polar bears and they ACTIVELY HUNT HUMANS. We smell like dinner to them, unlike brown bears (grizzlies) and black bears that know how crazy dangerous humans are and fear us. I would want a semi-automatic rifle like an SKS-45 or AR-15. If I'm out hiking in the Canadian North and I see a polar bear, I'm not going to scare it off, I'm going to kill it because it will stalk me for days if I don't and no human can out-run any bear. Nope, I'm going to empty my magazine into that fucker and put a few more into it to be sure that it's dead.
Personally, I'd probably lean towards the SKS because, at least here in Canada, they're not banned and are quite cheap on the surplus market. And if you want to talk about cheap ammo, well shit, you can get the 7.62x39mm rounds for a song because there are a lot of former Warsaw Pact countries that have WAY more of these bullets than they'll ever need and they know it. Even North Korea has sold off millions of rounds for cheap. The cheapest rounds are the acid rounds but they're a pain to use because you have to constantly be cleaning the barrel after using them. They're great if you're not lazy. ;)
The other key ingredient to Canada's low gun-death rate is the strict control of pistols and revolvers. These are NOT considered hunting weapons, they are considered combat weapons. This makes sense because nobody hunts with a 9MM Glock or Colt .45, or at least, nobody that I've ever seen or heard about. As a result, handguns are heavily restricted to the degree that you have to not only complete a gvoernment gun operation and safety course, you must also be able to PROVE that you have a serious need for this gun (dangerous occupation, or show that your life is in serious jeopardy). When one's life is in jeopardy, it is far more common to be assigned police protection than a handgun licence (and probably more effective too).
Occupations that warrant a handgun licence include private investigator, bounty hunter and being a guard of a high-value item or person (VIP, armoured car, bank holding facility, gemstone warehouse, museum, etc.). Handgun licences are also granted to gun clubs for use exclusively on their property for indoor range shooting. These guns cannot ever leave the premises unless the company itself is moving. Police officers and military personnel also have an easier time getting them (for obvious reasons).
So the key to reducing the number of guns is to reduce the number of DANGEROUS guns and increase the number of less-dangerous firearms. Nobody is going to go on a killing spree with a bolt-action .38 repeater with a 5-round magazine, or at least if they do, the number of deaths will be far fewer. In Canada, we freely allow guns that a reasonable person would want to use as a hunting tool or target shooting. People who want to own guns are allowed to do so up to a reasonable degree. Note that keyword "reasonable" because it's used a lot in Canadian Law.
The best way to limit the availablilty of more dangerous firearms is to offer much less dangerous firearm for much less money and far fewer headaches that will be just as effective for all legal gun uses in Canada. If you want to go hunting in Canada and have a hunting licence, a .22 or .38-calibre bolt-action repeater rifle with a five-shot magazine is a piece of cake to get. If you want a semi-auto rifle, you can get that too but it costs more and magazines are still limited to 5 rounds. Sure, anybody can make bigger magazines but very few, if any, Canadian hunters think that a 5-shot magazine is insufficient. This reduces the guns available for use in crime in Canada but it isn't why Canada has such a low crime and murder rate compared to the USA. Canada's low crime rate is a result of a basic ideological difference between Canada and the USA.
What we do differently in Canada that really reduces crime and murder is rather simple. We take much better care of our poor. It's literally impossible to starve to death in Canada because charities and government programs ensure that food is always available to those who need it. Homeless people here are, for the most part, homeless because they want to be or because they are drug addicts who won't seek help. Those that do seek help find it available through our publicly-funded healthcare system.
Committing murder, especially mass-murder is a final-straw act of despair that comes from thinking that there's nothing to live for, not because there's a lot of guns around. In the USA, poor people feel truly hopeless and are marginalised so they really feel that nobody cares. They're not exactly wrong because the US government really DOESN'T care about the poor and the way things are today, people that do care about the poor and would like to help out are kept so busy that they don't have time for their kids, let alone acts of altruism.
People with nothing to lose and no way out of a bad situation are the most dangerous people on the planet. The USA produces them in droves. People in the US often grow up with a sense that money is more valuable than human life. So if someone grows up poor, is taught that human life is of little value and sees no way to make their own situation better without resorting to crime, they will quite happily turn to crime and feel justified for doing so. The lack of emphasis on the value of human life compared to the value of a dollar means that people become sociopathic and will kill without mercy or regret. Add the number of guns "in the wild" in the USA and that's a recipe for disaster. Whether Americans like it or not, the crime and murder in the USA will not go down as long as they demonise any governemnt initiative that could be deemed "socialistic".
Keep the guns if you want, but FFS, fix the socio-economc crisis that is the cause of all these symptoms like crime and murder!
so many good points thank you
@BFC You are undoubtedly 1 of the greatest sages of the 21st century, Keep up the Blessed work!
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A deep southern man wearing a Sublime shirt, making the most well thought out essay on gun control I've ever seen
Love this dude, dont know how stumbled across his channel but I'm glad I did
OK, you're consistent af. I see this was before "it's just a thought". Came here, sadly after your last gun violence video. Man, a part of me feels like were learning and making progress, and another part of me is like, man nothing has changed. I don't know man, I just trust in one thing. If I am finally figuring it out now, I'm not special, then surely, statiscally, then more of us are getting the same moment of clarity at the same time. I ain't special, so there must be more of people like me, finally truly getting it.
Change is incredibly slow most the time. It’s frustrating I know. I’ve gone to learn that myself, being in my 50s now.
As a former liberal turned pro-gun leftist I found this video super helpful and very informative.
What do you think about tackling other second order effects like putting real investment into good public mental health services so that everyone can get counseling/therapy BEFORE they get to the point of wanting to commit violence?
This was very enlightening. Thank you (from someone who does not like guns :>) I appreciate your insight, your walk through the pyschology of this topic, your sincerity. I wish more people could approach all issues with the calm, open, educated perspective that you have show me here. This is why we need more real Americans in office. I would love your perspective to be heard in Washington DC. We all need to get real. These segments you have put together are real. Great gratitude! Can't wait to hear Part 3.
13:27 made chills run down my spine. Spot on.
As someone who doesn't fully understand how guns work, but knows how people work fairly well, I sincerely appreciate your level-headed, practical take on things. You bring up a couple points I hadn't thought of. TY
".. if young people moving out at 18 and they need a gun to protect themselves." Protect from what?
I suddenly feel VERY lucky for not living in the USA, if that line is common sense. Either they are in deep sh*t (or live a very bad place) to have that need, or they are more scared than they need to be, which is not a good situation to have people armed, as illustrated way to often by police.
Aside from that do I not see semiautomatic rifles as the best suited gun for self defense, even less in close quarters, but that's a completely other matter.
Great series so far! I’m a us army veteran and I’m very pro gun control- these have helped me explain my point to some of my more emotional friends
Would you be able to talk about mental health in this country? Do you think that that could possible help if we had better mental health support?
Most mentally ill people are more likely to be victims than perpetrators.
We DO need to change our society. There could be counselors and clinics on every street corner, accessible 24/7 for a token sum and people would stay away because asking for help is seen as weak. Parents freak out at the most ridiculous things, which teaches children not to ask distressing questions; we teach boys BS about male behavior so that they withdraw from each other because intimate friendships are homosexual ones and they also can't deal with their emotions because real men don't have emotions besides anger -- and many other things that ensure that the United States leads the world in both serial and mass murder.
Well said Juliet. When we were kids girls all held hands as they walked and guys walked with arms looped or arms across shoulders. We had fist fights with supervision and supervised make up afterwards. Dad's rifle stayed in the gun rack.
Thank you so much for this video. I am from the North and know nothing about guns, and it's good to get info from someone who actually knows what they're talking about and can say it without turning it into a rant.
It wasn't boring.
This is the best I've seen someone understand both sides of an argument and use that understanding as well as critical thought to actually try to find realistic solutions to very real problems. Beau would make a fantastic Congressperson.
I am pro 2a/pro gun and I think we should definitely have some form of "gun control". But what I mean by that is I think we should make it much "harder" to purchase a gun, more thorough backround checks, training, etc. Also maybe something like having a gun safe or something that functions as one is necessary for owning firearms because troubled teens have such easy access to their parents guns that backround checks won't effect them because their parents, who purchased the gun, may be clean. Parents need to keep guns away from kids and be held accountable for not doing so. People who don't keep their guns safe, are at risk of some other guy stealing em and shooting up a mall. Parents HAVE to be more responsible (or any gun owner). Banning guns- any type- will stop us from defending ourselves in the face of tyranny or otherwise, we need the second amendment to protect our freedom and ourselves.
Gfin I agree with your point on making parents more responsible, but making it harder to get a gun is simply going to create more of a black market. They are already out there. People who wanted guns already have them. Private purchase will take the place of FFLs. The FBI/ATF are already swamped as it is with the NICS checks. 90% of the time that someone fails a NICS check for being a felon, there is no follow up. That person walks out of the store with their money and buys something on the street out of a trunk of a car.
We need to stop focusing on legal owners as the problem and focus on illegal guns. Because most illegal gun ownership is in Democrat controlled areas with strict gun restrictions and high crime, the left convienantly ignores it.
@@Nattleby Lots of crimes are committed by legally bought guns. Making it harder for these people to get their hands on a gun will stop *some* of these crimes. obviously not all, but it's a start. Not all of them will go through the trouble of getting a firearm illegally. Not that it's extremely hard, but I really believe this would stop SOME shooters. Private sales are definitely tricky, because any guy selling his gun can't tell if a guy is dangerous. I'm just saying this stuff is a start. Any legal gun owner will just need to take the time to get a gun legally, because a more thorough process will stop *some* of these potential shooters.
Gfin But the real question is what is the true agenda? Is the agenda to really stop Gun Violence and gun deaths? Or is the Agenda really to disarm a certain class of people who could legitimately pose a threat to centralized power and control?
If we look at initiatives that have actually had a real impact on gun violence, like the reduction or reform of mass incarceration and intervention methods such as the “Cure Violence” program in Chicago (www.npr.org/2017/03/08/519068305/treat-gun-violence-like-a-public-health-crisis-one-program-says) we see that it’s focus are the people and the policies impacting the people.
Gun control policies (Like NY SAFE Act that had a compliance rate so low they tried to hide the numbers.) have been shown to be ineffective in controlling gun violence, but very effective in propelling the careers of politicians, and ginning up divisions, and I think that is the real agenda.
a british army sergeant using a bolt action lee enfield .303, hit 36 24x24 targets at 300 yards in 1 minute. this included reloading a fixed magazine with 5 round stripper clips, which are slower than using a detachable magazine. the standard the army aimed for was 15 hits per minute, that was marksman 2nd class.
I agree. Gun isn't the real issues. People are.
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Thank you for sharing your perspective on this, it was truly insightful. As someone from the UK I was unaware of some of the more unique circumstances faced in the USA when it comes to gun control until watching this video and it certainly made me think.
I am not a gun person but I now know that I am pretty clueless about the topic. At least I was until this video. You would be a great mediator between the left and right.
Thank you very much for both of these videos. I learned a lot, even in the first "boring one". Thanks for making sense of gun sense. This is the first comment I have ever made on a CZcams video, you deserve it.
4:31 being forced to load rounds individually into a 5 round fixed mag on a bolt action the other hand... takes a bit longer ... especially if you cant use stripper clips...
You nailed it! Weapons that cock themselves, semi-automatic, especially the AR-15, with the potential of a high magazine feed, make it possible to kill large numbers like the Nevada shooter. I'm retired military, and I was taught the M16 was designed to seriously wound. A wounded enemy poses a greater problem logistically, as he needs care and resources. A dead one, well, requires nothing but a burial - at some point. Self defense in the home can be safely achieved by a shotgun or revolver.
You make brilliant points. In Hawaii, general guideline is you cannot travel with a loaded weapon, either on your person or in your car. If you’re driving to a hunting area, you have to have your own loaded weapon in one part of the car, like your trunk and your ammo in a different part of the car, like the glove compartment. Most hunters seem to be satisfied with that. Otherwise, you can pretty much do whatever you want at home. Oregon crime stats are pretty low.
Agree mostly. Gotta take issue with the whole "creating a black market" thing. Maybe so. But it still will be more difficult to obtain.
Here's an analogy. I'm a pretty resourceful guy and I would have no clue how to obtain heroin. Or any other hardcore drug. Could I do it? Probably. But it would be a hell of a lot harder than if I could go to CVS and pick up some crack. And maybe that extra difficulty keeps me from getting it. Same with if I wanted to get a banned gun. I'd have to really want it and be willing to risk jail time just for buying the thing.
It's not a solution. But it's better than being able to pick up a military style rifle when you run out to buy Pampers.
Also your logic doesn't track. You're in favor of increasing the age to buy guns (which is a ban). But against bans because you don't think it will change anything.
Personally I'm for both along with any other law that makes gun ownership more difficult but just wanted to point out the flaw in the argument.
Well said, Rob.
His logic tracks fine. There is a difference between a regulation and a ban.
In the vast majority of the country, the drinking age is 21. Vendors must apply for special permits in order to sell alcohol, and if they fail to comply with regulations, their permits and business licenses can be suspended or revoked, they can be fined, and may even face criminal charges. But, if they comply with regulations, they can legally sell a product which is always in demand and is thus highly profitable. Meanwhile, their customers have to be of age, provide identification, and follow a handful of regulations on their end, but they can safely and conveniently purchase and consume alcohol without needing to worry about legal repercussions, have a greater degree of choice with respect to what kind of alcohol they wish to buy and where they wish to buy it, and play a role in setting the market price.
Contrast that with prohibition, where there was no legal market for alcohol. Your only options were not to drink alcohol, to make it yourself, or to buy it on the black market. People still drank, and in similar numbers to both before and after prohibition, but gangsters controlled all of it, and organized crime in the United States has never been anywhere near as powerful as it was during prohibition at any point before or since. And, crucially, once the ban was lifted, competition from legal sales crippled speakeasies and bootlegging operations overnight, effectively.
Java Monkey, I don't think alcohol prohibition is the best analogy. It was never illegal to drink or possess and several states never enforced the federal ban on the manufacture of alcohol. Alcohol consumption actually did drop significantly during prohibition, but it did rise significantly during the final years of prohibition, even in the states it was enforced in, but was still lower than pre and post-prohibition levels. Alocohol prohibition is actually very analogous to current marijuana prohibition.
I'm not trying to defend gun control (I'm against most forms of it personally), but I'm trying to help you construct a better argument.
source: www.history.com/news/10-things-you-should-know-about-prohibition
You maybe wouldn't be able to find a black market gun to purchase, but you could easily go online and find detailed instructions on how to make your own.
Not only are you creating a black market but your doing so banning products that are ubiquitous and celebrated as a principal of America or what America used to stand for anyway. Over night turning half the country into criminals as the state sees it. The "criminals" will view it differently I think. Any politician that thinks they can get rid of the 2nd is kidding themselves.
I grew up in a country where guns were not much of a concern but now live in the US. Thank you for the very informative video. It has been educational!