'Why do you CARE who is in your toilet?!' - Camilla Tominey in HEATED debate over Tory 'trans ban'
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Founder of SEE Change Happen, Joanne Lockwood, and Camilla Tominey butt heads over the policing of trans people in single sex spaces.
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This man is EXACTLY why we need single biological female spaces.
This MAN shouldn't be allowed in any public toilets.
that is what i said to he is and example what the problem is with this all idiots we are also women stuff
Ffs...there's no such thing as "trans women"
"Transformers men in disguise" or rather not.
It's a man, baby
@@littlelioness4278 it sure is👍🏻🍒🍆
These are men not respecting women’s boundaries. This already makes them predatory. Decent men understand women feel vulnerable in areas where they have to undress and will not come in. Saying you’re a woman doesn’t make you a woman.
So right. You really have to ask yourself why a man so intensely wants to invade a woman's space. That very desire should ring alarm bells. It stinks of menace. Yet they bleat: "I only want to use the toilet in peace". Yeah, right.
And this shows exactly how this person who claims to be a woman, has no earthly understanding of how a woman really feels about this.
Women don't undress in toilets.
So true. A trans woman would understand how women feel
Correct.
Why do I care who's in my toilet? As a 6'2 man, I don't; but for my female relatives I bloody well do.
Men clean there toilets all the time. They need to stop thinking all men are predators.
Thank you! As a woman, I appreciate your comment.
I think Jo Ann fell and hit his head. Ms. Tominey made too much sense for Jo Ann to absorb.😂
@@rhondalee5087 On X I 'm getting a huge backlash from WOMEN saying "men should stay out of it - they don't know what's best for us" - well a lot of women seem to be on the side of these fetishists, because that's what most of them are.
@@wdwcai-wt2ge I don't need to "think it through" there are VERY few men who can pass as women, even with makeup. - There's a reason why part of the process is FFS Feminisation Facial SURGERY.
Oh and there's one other tell tale - let's see if you're smart enough to "think it through and respond".
Another fella in a frock telling women what to do 🙄
Well said 👏 👌
Not going to have some agp telling me he’s got rights to come into women’s spaces
Exactly, who is he kidding - absolutely no one. The bleeding heart liberals/lefties who defend men like him, and pretend they are women, would not trust him to babysit their kids, that's for sure!
Crocodile Dundee got it right "just checking" !!
@@johncummins3860lol 😂🇬🇧
Why is this bloke wanting other blokes to go into women's safe spaces? Stay away from my children.
Good men stay out so bad men stand out.
The bloke saying he's a woman disagrees with women 😂 you can't make this up
@@murphoithegameguy3924 Where did it all go wrong.
@@lordelpus2099 lack of faith and complete abandonment of any form of monotheism, Satan has more authority over the nation now so chaos, confusion, deception, corruption, division and persecution ensues. Take India for example, never adopted any form of monotheism and stayed loyal to polytheism, it is now ranked one of the most corrupt countries in the world.
I agree they used to be locked up for this creepy stuff.
Does this ‘person’ really think that regardless what he’s had done, that we can’t tell he’s a man!
Exactly. I wouldn’t need to see his birth certificate to know that he is a biological man. He’s being ridiculous using birth certificates as a distraction in his pathetic argument.
That's what I am thinking. Does this man really think that he can pass as a woman? And men don't care if a woman uses the men's facilities, they are not a threat.
He imagines he passes 😂🫣
"How can you tell who's a women" hahaha
Trans people need to be honest about their biological sex and stop confusing it with their gender identity.
They keep claiming that gender identity is a social construct but still want to change their birth certificate to female which is based on biology.
A lot of them are ok with their biological sex, but society itself causes the dissonance, and the feeling or pressure that you should be one thing or another, of not being happy with your body, that it does not fit the purpose. If surgery did not exist, they would still exist. They have always existed. Many do not want to be operated on or have bits removed, because their gender feelings ebb and flow, or they grow out of them completely. Bins are full of discarded dresses and shoes, thrown away when the feeling is gone. Mistakes are made when surgery in involved. But for others it works perfectly well. They accept the risks and the ongoing treatments and live happier lives.
@@LucyOLasticB##locology & hands of vulnerable children.
How pathetic, mean and unpleasant this bloke is.
Did we watch the same video?
I too found him deeply unpleasant. The interviewer wouldn't have to prove she is a woman to anybody with eyes that work. That's the difference. I took one look at that bloke and knew he was a fella in a skirt before he opened his mouth and proved it. And how comes he has a fake birth certificate?
@@Healz0: It’s obvious that you are part of the problem, HE is repulsive!
@@Healz0: It’s obvious that you are part of the problem, HE, Joe, is repulsive! 🤢
@@Healz0- so you're just like him.
that is not a woman
And he's giving businesses diversity and inclusion advice. That's where we're going horribly wrong.
No he isn't - you've restored my faith in people.
@@nikobellic570expect that's ticked a few diversity boxes🙄...think I've read about him elsewhere....he seems rather nasty and unpleasant.... and a right know all....
@@azillliasmith2734And obviously a MAN.
Trans women aren't actually women and they aren't 'trans women'. They are men.
born a man but wants male rights and womens rights too , the ego is bigger than his feet 😂
Thank you!!! I was just about to make this comment myself but no need now. The GBN reporter’s statement makes absolutely no sense.
@@anonymousa-uy1hk Camilla Tominey was a model of clarity and sense
@@carontownsend9890 Not when it came to the definition of what a so called “trans woman” is. That definition doesn’t tell us that the people we are talking about are actually men. It suggests we talking about a type of woman.
In fact, they are transvestites. Men who like women's clothing
As a woman who has been sexually assaulted, single sex toilets/changing rooms are vital. I don’t want men in my toilets or locker rooms, and at the end of the day a trans woman is biologically male. That makes me feel very uncomfortable and vulnerable. It is rather easy to tell that the guest isn’t a biological woman, and the fact that he starts out saying I’m not a man is just ridiculous. I care about who is allowed in to public ‘safe spaces’ because it is a matter of safety and peace of mind.
I am a woman and I have never liked communal changing rooms. You do realise that trans women have been using your toilets for years and you haven't even known. Why haven't you known? Because they are not all sexual predators and they don't all look like men in dresses. I have met trans women who are models. You would never in a million years believe that they were born male. Are they supposed to use the men's toilets and be attacked? What about a trans man? If they walked into the Ladies there would be uproar as the women would say a man has gone into their toilet. But they are biologically a woman. What about intersex people? Who decides what toilet they use? What about a very masculine looking woman? Is she not allowed in the womens' toilets. She could be mistaken for male. There are predators in every community . If someone wants to commit a crime they will do so. That doesn't mean that all trans women (a very small minority) of the population are sexual predators who are dressing up as women to go into the toilets and attack them. I have mixed with the trans community for years and have never felt at risk. I understand women who have been assaulted needing safe spaces and I don't agree with trans women competing with women in sport but this whole fuss about toilets is ludicrous. I am not bothered who uses the same toilet as me as long as they are respectful. I feel uncomfortable sharing my space with some women. Also, how would you police this ban on trans women using toilets. Genital examinations?? This whole issue of toilets has been blown out of all proportion. (I am an abuse survivor too.)
As a man I agree totally with you kirsty and no normal decent man would disagree.
A few weeks ago I was in another town and the only public toilets were Unisex. I was very uncomfortable with the thought of having to use them and another man, a complete stranger to me admitted to feeling the same way about it.
@@mrmyorky5634 Works all over the world, stop pearl clutching over nothing.
Stay out of my grandkids toilets! Go into the disabled single occupancy toilet!
We don't need a Birth certificate to know "Joanne" shouldn't be in the Ladies.
Do you think there are zero women who look manly? or zero trans women who pass? How do you account for those people?
@@connor5669they are thieves in the night that "get away" with things..doesn't make it right...
@@connor5669Transwoman (biological women) look distinctly different from biological women. No matter how much cosmetic surgery or hormones they take, they do not look like biological women. It's a notable difference.
@@9395gb then why have there been multiple "biological women" that have been mistaken for trans women and harassed in the bathroom?
I thought you could always tell
There haven't been biological women mistaken for biological men.
About as feminine as Mike Tyson
🤭
Way uglier
Don't joke 😃 you can't tell 😂
It’s the wild eyes like he was reading a newspaper
He's actually 6'5 too so probably can kick Tyson's ass
I don't know why he keeps saying we need to check birth certificates to identify a woman. It's clear just from seeing his head and shoulders that Joanne is a man.
And this is why they shouldn't be able to change their paperwork, it's lying on legal documents
The fact that official documents can be falsified in this way is a problem that is not discussed enough.
It doesn't matter if this bloke is a threat. Girls & women feel uncomfortable with blokes looking on, listening in, sniffing around when we are using the toilet, changing our clothes, taking a shower. It's why women's loos, locker rooms, changing rooms have always had rules that say it's fine for mums & female carers to bring in our sons & male charges when they are babies & little boys, but once boys reach a certain age - usually 6 or 7 - they can't come in any more, not even with their mums/female carers.
Most women don’t shower naked even in front of other women, let alone biological men. Yes Sir, you should not be allowed into biological female spaces. This man is deluded in my opinion. I don’t understand why this minority take up so much time? I tend to think because this is DANGEROUS threatening and an attraction to bad men.
There’s no doubt that fella is a fella.
Well...hormones havent changed the voice or facial features. And the mansplaining......trust a male trying to ask women to prove we are biological women whilst stating he is one. Even a jock i n a frock still smacks of ...not understanding that no is no and if we women say no males in our spaces, then tough tittie s, because they will do want they want. It really is a form of gender abuse. Stand your ground ladies, this is not going to end soon.
les dawson looked better when he dressed up lol
trans women are NOT women and men in frocks should not be telling WOMEN what to do.
Joanne my arse more like Joe
😆
He is a man fact
This man is ignoring the fact that we have been able to tell the difference between men and women with 99.99% accuracy for thousands of years - there is no need for any of the 'tests' he keeps suggesting and that he admits are ludicrous. Very, very few trans women pass as women!
Yep. We are not delusional either. We are not the same.
Are you quite sure about that? There are many you would have a struggle to distinguish. Most of you need Specsavers anyway.
@@LucyOLastic Brilliiant.... A specialist. How do we differentiate between an AGP and a trans woman?
@@LucyOLasticBoo Hoo for you.There is only 1 way to be Female, to be formed as female in a Woman's Womb & then a newborn's Biological Sex is Observed at Birth & Duly Recorded.No cissing around.
The prerequisite to being Female is Female DNA, you either have it or you don't & this Misogynist AGP certainly doesn't.Brandising a Legal Fiction can't change the Fact that No Human Being Can Change Their Sex...
@@unitysprings3631I don't care, there are obviously 4 foot something pretty faced men that would probably be better off transitioning to a woman than living as a weak looking man 😛 that, or they could just be a femboy, or a more effeminate man that usual, how far do you want to curtail our freedoms to resolve this non existent problem?
Why don’t women have the right to be safe in these places
"im not a man"
Yes, you are. If you want people to take you seriously, dont lie to peoples faces and dont smile whilst you do it.
he is not a man he has had the surgery he is now a eunuch and his lack of sexual organs means he will never have a sexual orgasm .. no sorry i forgot he has a prostate so can still climax unlike the girls who are torn apart and surgically destroyed over this ideology of cruelty ,
trans men wont attack men for obvious reasons :D
ive changed gym twice now because trans men wont get the hint that gay guys dont like pussy. they complain when they cant get their way and make up lies.
Funny how it's all men, where are the Trans women.
💯
Or go in men’s spaces.
I think their point was trans men being biological women under the lens of a biological approach would go into women's bathrooms - which will still make them feel unsafe and uncomfortable, so it really will come down to who passes as what gender in the end whether people like it or not as there's not really any other practical solution outside of ID checks at the toilet door.
With all respect the guest is not a woman and thus his insisting he is not one is the crux of why we need protection!
No respect is due, everything else you said is spot on.
They need to be locked up if you ask me
@@Madonnalitta1correct these men don’t respect women so why should women show any sort of respect to them . They can FO
Listen to the man telling women what to accept.
Biological sex isn’t ludicrous. It’s fact!
Continually, day in day out, disrespecting women.
This creature is a child's worst nightmare
And a grandfathers, how could I take any of my Granddaughters out on a Saturday afternoon and see him follow them into the Ladies.
And any woman.
I cant get over how irritatingly ridiculous this whole thing is. Bring back common sense, bring back people calling people out, bring back sanity!
hes a liar, to himself and to us
He's desperate to get women to believe he's not a bloke. Such coercive language.
When he so patently looks like a man.
A pratt pretending to be a woman.
You don’t hear of trans men making any issues
Exactly - for the simple fact 'trans men' are biological women. The potential danger to women and children, as always, comes from the male population. How those males dress or 'identify' is irrelevant, all men have the potential to pose a risk of harm to women, therefore do not belong in female toilets, changing rooms etc.
Decent men fully understand this, respect women's rights to their own spaces, and do not seek to invade those public spaces intended for women and girls!
Well, they are women.
Don't you? Face it, you only have issues with trans women, because trans men do not pose any threat to you.
They don't get invited frequently to humiliate themselves on GB News.
You are already accustomed to unconventional looking women.
Imagine though for a minute being challenged in the ladies' being a biological woman because you look like a bloke? How are you going to suggest they prove they are women? You know how myopic people are.
Yeah because they’re women
I doubt if trans men stand up to urinals?
Joanne showed his masculinity with everything he said
Why should the rights of billions of women be put behind the rights of thousands of men?
feminism opened pandoras box
If he genuinely cared about the safety of women he would stay out so all men stay out!
He is totally selfish, as long as he gets his way that’s all that matters. Women’s feelings are not important!
Camilla did a damn good job of staying calm and putting our point across brilliantly 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Yes respect to Camilla Tomminy for speaking truth to gender lies, and defending the rights to their own public spaces of women and girls. If only more TV hosts had the courage to condemn this woke gender nonsense!
And keeping a straight face. 😐
She did an awful job. So much for sticking up for girls and women.
The fact he doesn’t understand why toilets are an issue to real women only proves we shouldn’t listen to people like him
Who does he think he is kidding?
"I'm not a man" this is the clown world we live in
Can't keep the duper's delight smirk off his face as he says it.
Forty years ago ... what am I thinking ? ... four years, this man would be called a transvestite and we'd all leave it at hat.
@@Abuamina001Or just a pervert.....
@@Abuamina001wanting to go in women's loos I would have called him a pervert
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20 years ago, he would have been jailed for impersonating a woman. In the UK .
And even now, in some parts of the world he would be beheaded.🏴
It is not about conflating trans men with sexual predators, it is to say that sexual predators can pretend to be trans and thereby gain access to female only spaces...
Exactly right - and anyone who follows the news knows it is happening somewhere every single day. Male predators will go to elaborate lengths to access vulnerable female and child victims.
Women have no way of knowing if the man in a dress who just entered the female toilets/changing rooms is a nice guy, or a dangerous, violent one. This is fully understood by decent men - decent men respect women and do not presume to invade the single sex public spaces meant for women and girls!
As the ing goes, "good men stay out, so bad men stand out"
One prisoner in America demand to go to a woman’s prison due to being trans , three women prisoners end up pregnant , l rest my case
Exactly. How can we tell if a man is predatory?
Even getting a piece of paper wouldn't be enough to stop it.
so by this mans own reasoning, if I go and have plastic surgery to make me look like the king of england, then I must be the king of england...........
Or you could just identify as the king of England! 😂😂😂
Hail, King Breetzke!
Joanne’s voice is so rough. It goes well with her male pattern baldness. Bless you petal. 😂😂😂
so brave whats the rest of that line again 😂
That dude is a bloke.
You need help sir
And women and girls need protection from him.
They always ask us why we are making such a big deal. But these are the same people that will demand people respect the trans ideology even if goes the individual's dignity or religion
If I ever see anything like that following my wife into the ladies he'll regret it.
This is typical of a man who thinks he is a woman. I have 1 granddaughter, 5 grandsons (I am blessed). I am biological female, I gave birth to 4 children.
I don't, and wouldn't go into my grandsons safe spaces, I wouldn't😊 do the same to my granddaughter. Why do people think it's okay to invade private, biological women's spaces just because they identify themselves as a women. I find this extremely scary.
this man doesn't think he's a woman. He probably doesn't want to be a woman. He just wants to have whatever he wants, regardless of the fact that, possibly because of the fact, that women don't want this.
Agree.as as a mother and grandmother,our granddaughter likes to go to the toilet on her own now,she is 10 .I won't let her just in case,😠😠😠😠
It's truly infuriating where we are right now.
You don't have to use the word "biological" before "female." There is only one way to be female.
Talking like that only enables the ones pushing this even more.
💯💯
“I’m not a predatory man” ….okay frank 😂
Yes he is if he wants in the ladies
I wonder if he has an official piece of paper stating that.
Impossible to listen to this ...protect children before you protect trans feelings 😮
That’s a man!!!!!!
And a very weird, creepy man at that!
Does this guy seriously believe he’s passing?
He doesn’t care. It’s all part of the fetish.
I hope his time in the limelight is passing.
@@ribbonsofnight, amen!
"Joanne", ha ha ha ha!!!!!! What a freak he is.
More like joke-anna!
Joe.
Dangerous one too
@@johnkeen4271: Creepy too!
@@nuttysquirrel8574 l think he is sick in the head no good to man or beast sicko better stay away from my family 🤕🤕🤕🤕
Trans women say they don’t like using male toilets because they feel uncomfortable. WHAT ABOUT WOMEN feeling uncomfortable trans women using THEIR TOILETS. Don’t real women have a say about their privacy, dignity and space.
There is no logic with this bloke!
Several operations? Ask for a refund. All gender reassignment surgery fails at it is impossible
Maybe a medical issue, but good grief, his eyes were creeping me out
Everything about him is creepy.
They were darting around like when he is in a ladies bathroom.
Literally thinking the same thing….. creepy.
@@kittyroo9294😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
total creepshow
As much as everything he says is ridiculous. He's right about one thing. We need to stop giving men pieces of paper that claim they're women.
He should definitely have been told that the piece of paper doesn't know that he's a man. It can't know that it's a lie, but he does and so do we all.
Stick a horn on a horse and it doesn't make it a unicorn it's just a horse with a identity complex
very good
No need to drop your draw's we can tell a man in a wig a mile off.
“IM NOT A MAN” 😂😂😂
you can’t have it all, all of us don’t have it all, you choose to go that path, fine, just know the rest of the world don’t have to validate your choice
what kind of company would pay to employ this bloke to explain what a woman is. when Labour gets in, this will be even worse.
He is vile.
Beyond it I’d say ….
He is a freak with serious mental health issues 😂
Im sorry sir Id be uncomfortable with you in my private space!
How do you think I would feel out with a few of my 5 Granddaughters on a Saturday shopping trip and I saw him follow them in to the Ladies.
I would be uncomfortable in a private space with him and I am a 79 year old grandfather.
Women dont want weirdos in their safe spaces, end of! You want us to take your word that you're no threat to us, like that's EVER going to happen!
This man is not fooling anybody. You don't need to look up his skirt to see he is male.
She should have asked whether its appropriate for a women to see a penis in a women's only change room. Not that long ago that would be considered a form of sexual assault or at the very least indecent exposure and they would be arrested.
His mask was slipping off right at the end of that interview.
Oh boohoo., The group that wanted to use the word cis man cis woman is upset by biological man biological women. 🤦
He is AGP, stay out of women's spaces or be questioned on your reason for being there.
I dont need to be a vet or a biologist to know what is a dog or a horse.
What about women sport, safe spaces etc this is what the problem is, trust a bloke not to get it
They don't want us safe, they want us afraid all the time...again
of course he gets it. That's part of what this is about. Making women feel unsafe and uncomfortable. These men hate women. They neither believe they are women nor do they want to be women.
They just want to be able to take away from women anything they have.
This would be a Monty Python Flying Circus sketch in the 70's
It's a man
Joanne? That's a bloke.
Yup, Joanne is a Joman.
His name is Joe 🤣🤣🤣
Who's the best person to speak to about men predating on women only spaces? Erm, a man?
What a creepy MAN!
Why is it always these people who want to promote toilet inclusiveness? Oh, and making money out of it on the side; nice!
and no consideration for the feelings of those compelled to share the space with them; totally self absorbed!
And no, we are not asking for inspections; we are requesting that people take some responsibility for the effects of their own actions and refrain from this behaviour out of basic human respect for others.
Joanne ... What kind of tests can we do to ensure 'predatory' men do not make their way into our female spaces? The same argument...
TRA’s never respond to the question of are trans women more likely to commit sexual crimes, or are predators taking advantage of lax enforcement?
It’s one or the other.
A bloke telling women what they should do and accept. Men are men irrelevant of how they identify. These ridiculous arguments about how are we going to police this? It previously operated on respecting the boundaries, these men read as men. It is a legal fiction if someone has a gcr.
and the argument that men have always been able to enter women's spaces is disingenuous.
He's certainly the type you warn your kids to stay away from
Oh my god, they are so deluded, like we all can’t tell the second we look at someone.
I would Not like my Daughter or Granddaughter being in the same toilet area as this Person or anyone like Him. It’s Creepy.
Proper wrong'un him
Noone needs to look under his skirt to tell he's a bloke
thats what i said lol
This makes me so angry. The trans women issue around safe spaces should be a problem for men to solve, not women! Men should be educated to accept men in dresses into their toilets etc. It shouldn’t be forced on women to step aside for them. Absolutely sick to the back teeth of hearing blokes preaching to women about womanhood, it’s nauseating.
The only way to keep women’s spaces safe is to keep ALL men out, regardless of whether they are wearing a dress. The emphasis now should be shifted to making men’s toilets safe for trans women. The alternative is a separate toilet/changing room facility.
Misogyny 101. Men create a problem and expect women to solve it.
I completely agree with you about keeping all men out of women's spaces, however we don't want them either. I will often take my 5 year old son into a public loo on days out etc and certainly don't want a man in a dress claiming to be a woman hovering around in there, just as you wouldn't want a woman claiming to be a man hanging around in a woman's toilet, especially a post op trans man with all the 'equipment'. I think the trans community need to solve this one themselves, they should have separate spaces just for them.
Amen.
Excellent post.
Gentlemen/Ladies/ Frankenstein experiments
Easy fix
Is that the voice of a woman?
Enough! Safe guarding trumps your whateverness.
Single spaces are for a single sex .
Trans women are not women. If they do not feel they are men, then maybe they need to campaign for another classification that sets them apart from the 2 basic gender catagories, and apply/ campaign to have trans spaces - not invade womens spaces - because they are not women! Same goes for sports - have trans sports a d compete in a fair playing field against each other, not women!
The term "biological sex" is ludicrous??? Really. And the term "transwoman" is not???
At least we know what he looks like now.
So if clarifying the law isn’t going to be enough to keep them out of our bathrooms/changing rooms/sports etc then other means will be necessary.
biologically I'm 40 years old - but I identify as a 65 year old. Can I now retire and draw my old age pension please?
He's sooo creepy. And he's living an absolute lie.
Bloke!
Does ‘Joanne’ really think that anybody is in any doubt that he’s a bloke? These people are so deluded. Good for Camilla for standing her ground.
This bloke seems to be saying "if you dress up as a woman you should have all the rights of a woman otherwise it is ludicrous as you cannot police it". I wonder if he has heard the phrase "putting the cart before the horse"... I think most of us can tell the difference beween a man and a woman in most cases...
We need to repeal the Gender Recognition Act and amend the Equality Act.