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Sources:
Yossef Bodansky, The Secret History of the Iraq War, 2004
George Bush and Brent Scowcroft, A World Transformed, 1998
Mike Tucker and Charles Faddis, Operation Hotel California: The Clandestine War Inside Iraq, 2008
"Operation Iraqi Freedom | The Invasion Of Iraq | FRONTLINE | PBS." PBS. Last modified February 26, 2004. www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontl....
"War in Iraq: Day by day guide." BBC News. Accessed March 8, 2020. news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_depth/....
Lowry, Richard S. Marines in the Garden of Eden: The True Story of Seven Bloody Days in Iraq. London: Penguin, 2007.
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Ok
Our objective is world domination, but what about trying to become an isolationist nation?
Comment is 20 hours old and the vid is only since half hour on?
Nani, love that many Yt bugs in the last time
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Ok
The events were brutal
And the aftermath was worse
Talking from inside the country...
Hope ur alright
I hope you are alright too
True, I think
how does living in the midst of a war feel?
i am genuinely interested in understanding how the lives of common people are affected by wars throughout history.
what did your daily life look like? what were your experiences?
Do people blame America for everything, or do the blame the radicals or something else?
Saddam’ spies spying each other is the epitome of the Spiderman meme.
@SrBeetleVase Well so am I.
Ha-haaaaaaaaaaa!
You comment on everything.
Everything
This must remind you of your Spanish Campaign.
it's a pretty persian thing to do tbh
I think this should more appropriately named "Iraqi perspective of Iraq war from an American point of view"
lol, but it's true
yeah
Exactly
Exactly
I was looking for that exactly in the comments. salut!
Our generals from Vietnam onwards don’t seem to realize winning the battle doesn’t mean winning the war. They can’t answer the question “what exactly does winning look like?”..
The problem is that that isnt the work of the military, a military is a tool used by a goverment to enact the last efforts of diplomacy, force, the problem comes when military generals are asked to do things they werent trained to do like play to be police officers or peace building forces, thats not the objective of a military and it's the reason it's soo hard to implement those rules
Imo that should be the objective and job of the people inside the country, the military should only provide protection and security while the new civilian order is stablished, the problem here being that the people inside the country are more preocupied with what sect is in control than in having a functioning country
The americans are to be blamed because of how heavy handed the whole war was conducted and how little tact they had once they tried the transition to peace, but at the same time they didnt created all the terrorist organizations and oportunistic religious leaders who just want to stablish control and impose their ideas on other people (declaring a "global caliphate" and saying that once they take over iraq they will take over the rest of the world to destroy the west and stablish a global muslim goverment didnt helped at all)
@@carso1500 Agree, it was literally a stupidly planned war with little to non planning at all, I know they prob have more idea what they want to do but it is feels like > ok go to war > install new democracy government > get oil for our war effort back > WIN. The details about the understanding the people, culture and what it needs to get a functional government back, there was no freaking effort at all.
@@carso1500
they didnt create the terrorist organizations and insane religious leaders, they just armed them, protected them and killed anyone who opposed them.... which is basically the same thing as creating.
no, the US is the bad guy in all of this.
Usa destroyed my country
@@carso1500 USA had no right to go invade a sovereign country and start a war, which aftermath has resulted in half a million dead. USA is completely the villain of this story and responsible for its crimes against peace.
Disbanding the Iraqi Army played a huge roll in the chaos, telling half a million soldiers over night they no longer have a job provided so much manpower for terrorism.
That's almost exactly how the Nazi Party was formed, after the Weimar Republic disbanded millions of soldiers.
@@pierrebegley2746 and the FreiKorps thing.
While the country needed protection, wich worsen the thing as they'll then join armed group to do it.
@@pierrebegley2746 yeah and germany got fucked by ww1 and was in a terrible economic situation
@@pierrebegley2746 A revolution is only away from three missed meals.
US to Iraq: *Congratulations. You are being liberated. Please do not resist.*
Also US while bombing Iraq and shooting at its people: We are doing this for your own good and in the name of democracy.
@@Me-fm9zk kinda funny, because its true.
i mean, correct me if i'm wrong but they did technically 'liberate' Iraq, well atleast the Shia iraqis (who have been under the boot of a sunni minority leader every since the 1930s iirc and recent Saddam just made the division between the 2 s's worse) and the kurds
time for some *american democracy*
It was a two step plan.
1. Beat Saddam.
2. Uuuuuhh. Democracy or something. We'll get to it when we've finished step 1.
Iraqi people : you freed us! Thank you.
America : oh i wouldn't say freed. more like "Under new management"
being "freed" isnt a good idea. esp when ur country has no plan, no money, no government. essentially, after "freeing" a country, youve left them with a vacuum in power. and they will fight amongst themselves for that power. AKA India after Britain "freed" it. so.... yea buddy
@@diegoaespitia same with Hong Kong and yea terrorist organizations start too
"you freed us! Thank you." -literally no Iraqi ever
*America and the insurgency groups
My grandpa is now 90. He's a Vietnamese. He fought the French since he was 13, then the Japanese when he was 15. He later on joined Viet Cong to fight the Americans. He was captured twice, brutally tortured (which resulted in 10 missing teeth and a bullet in his shoulders; the shrapnel still remains inside his body). He was released when the war ended, happily marched into the city of Saigon. The joy didn't last long. He marched towards the Northern border to fight of Chinese forces in 1979 and later joined the Expeditionary forces in Cambodia to fight Pol Pot. Of course he's now retired. His name is Nguyen Van Dong - alive and well. Three of his sons died during the war, two of them were only 9 and 10 when they died (of a bomb raid which hit their shelter). He grieved as much as anyone would when they lost their love ones. My mother is his 9th child, and also the last child. He kept a lot of medals inside his cabinet in the rural province of Ben Tre. He also kept a picture of me since I have gone studied abroad in Hungary. He said that he survived too many wars, and he hoped that he would also live until the day I returned which is 3 years from now. I love him more than anyone. God bless.
I have nothing but respect for your grandpa, mad respect.
Wait someone already wrote this on another video about the Vietnam war. Hmmmm
LOL this seems like a bullshit story. because a deep southerner from Ben Tre would not join the Viet Cong as the Southerners were mostly sympathetic to USA as they experienced many years of democracy and hated the Communists. not to mention... Ben Tre was far far from serious battle, leaving no Viet wanting to join Viet Cong. stop telling bs
CHAD GRANDPA
@@diegoaespitia the vietcong were from the south brah
I’m surprised that the decision of Paul Bremer to dismantle the Iraqi police and the army just after the invasion wasn’t mentioned in the video, it’s one of the main reasons that lead to chaos in Iraq
and he replace them by badir iraqi millitas which were establishment in iran by iranian replica guards!!
I was deployed to Iraq twice. I was there when Bremer announced those things. Insurgency started immediately after that. Fucking stupid. No Baathist could get a job, even though most people only joined to get jobs in Saddam's Iraq. Disband their military and didn't give them the back pay we told them we'd give them for surrendering.
Things could've been so different if we handled things better. Bremer didn't even know a damn thing about Iraq, like most of the Bush administration.
@@26michaeluk and ??? your country ruined my country and ??!!!! how the American feels about that ?? what is the Americans families whose lost son or daughter feel about that ?? what about Iraqis ?! .. history will write that ,, if the American feel proud about Thomas Jefferson in American's history they should now feel shame about what they do in iraq
Yep, and the disastrous firesale privatization of Iraq's infrastructure, particularly its energy and water utilities. That and the fact that Iraq had just left the petrodollar and was trading oil in Euros - a huge threat to petrodollar supremacy. It's the best explanation I've found so far of why we went in there.
The chaos was purposeful... More contractors needed afterwards... Iraq was about pillaging... The US Treasury... Isn't it obvious? 🤷♂️
Here's something: back in 2014 in Baghdad an Iraqi Christian told me that he resented the presence of the united states. Back before the war he and his family had security and stability. Now that they had been "liberated" they have been moving around constantly, being persecuted constantly. Their so called freedom only lead to their misery. He and his family hated Saddam but valued the security his regime brought as opposed to their new found freedom. He was contracted by the state department at the BDSC and was praying that he could save enough to get his family on a plane and come to the United States. This man, on behalf of his entire family, yelled at me across the table over dinner in the cafeteria of the BDSC. He told me he didn't hate me personally but hated what our military had done.
@Abdelrahman Tamer Ezz el Din Mossa yeah i always wanted to see what a random american person on his couch has to say about this war in which his countries military murdered civilians
" ...hated Saddam but valued the security his regime brought " Very true. Also, like stated, this was the only way of existence for a generation. Even if things would've gone as intended, their "new found freedom" would've been hard to navigate and get right.
What's BDSC?
As a Christian Egyptian I ask not to repeat this with Egypt, there is a strong chance Biden didn't learn a thing from Bush or Obama
@@polamoussa722 حبيبي
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ولا اتوقع امريكا رح تسوي كذا
Bruh how is this from "Iraq's perspective" when you're unaware of why they were hostile to the US
Hiiiii Preethi
Because planes were hijacked, US did necessary steps to stop terror in the 21st century world where everyone was in danger So Iraqi army was disbanded- safety restored.
@@outerheavenorphan4953 Mr. brainwashed are u for real? No terrorism anymore huh? What about isis? And by the way what does iraq has to do with 9/11 incident? That plane was full of saudis why didn't u go after them?
@@outerheavenorphan4953 Haha another Brian wash.
@@outerheavenorphan4953 wtf man. Until 2001, USA helped terrori$ts, saying they were freedom fighters
As an Iraqi person who didn't get to live in saddam's age or period. I can tell you that the people that educated with 'eastern culture' were not suffered by any chance. even The minister themselves and their family were educated without questioning. Actually I can prove it by saying that my uncle is educated in london 1985 and went back to iraq prove that the iraqi people were welcomed everywhere in saddam's decade. Just to let everyone watching this video know. Iraq was greater and more stabled in saddam's age.
-an Iraqi guy who wants iraq to be saved from corruption and unstable position
That may be, but Saddam acted irrationally. He managed to make enemies out of both the Iranians and Saudis when he easily could've made a valuable ally out of at least one. He didn't do any better on the world stage by gassing the Kurds and invading Kuwait. That turned all of global opinion against him. In fact his only saving face was that the US was the aggressor in 2003, which somehow gives him the moral high ground despite his bloody past.
@@2x2is22 where are you from ?
Not suffered by any chance? The Iran-Iraq war? The invasion of Kuwait and subsequent Gulf War? Forcing the US to place sanctions on him? I hate it when people like you do this revisionist bullshit cause you don't like the current government you live under. Saddam had people executed in front of him while smoking a cigar no seriously piss off with your crap. No you Arabs need democratic parties, checks and balances, liberalism, and secular governments (actually secular not Saddam and Assad appeasing religious extremists).
U.S: We did it Patrick! We saved the city.
Nice
This should have more likes
Exactly.
Good one 😂😂
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you forgot the biggest one
videos with random clickbait and without any content
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“To this day Iraq remains one of the most unstable countries in the world” #murica #freedom
Thanks to the peace makers
Ye thanks for democracy
@@monke7617 Democracy has nothing to do with it. USA don´t even have democratic system.
@@tefky7964 The USA is a democracy. It's not mutally exclusive to being a republic. It uses representative democracy , you vote for congressmen, senators, and the president which is the same for most of western democracies. I can't think of a country that uses direct democracy.
They were killing each other before we got there, they were killing each other while we were there and though it was about 50 Iraqi citizens killed for every American soldier they killed, the insurgents still blamed it on the US occupation... and they continue to kill each other even when we're not there to blame.
They aren't unstable because we went there, we went there because they're unstable. Ask a Kurd or a Kuwaiti.
"history is written by the Victor"
The things you said in the video are from u.s history books but the real things started with al baker in the 70s the baker made iraq strong to be able to take the middle east then u.s asked albaker to make a war with iran but he refused and them u.s put saddam and they killed him
Its a long game the u.s played
And im not in a mood to type it
Lmao. Sure.
@@abdxfrycsylol5648 This comment singlehandedly castrated any legitimacy you had, because you immediately insulted me personally without even knowing my political alignments.
Them westerner always itchy to interfere in us muslim business. I mean dude, leave us alone dammit. They are the reason of all conflict that happened in Africa continent.
Funny thing is the same thing happened in Iran.
All these American agencies are very very smart.
CIA: So how much unrest do you want?
US: YES.
Tbh its the other way around. State department gives the order and its up to the CIA/DIA to come up with methods as to how to do it.
right, because we should just divide iraq into three parts, and repeat what happened in british india, and millions of people losing everything.
Yup they can send S.A.D operatives and US spec ops to destabilize almost any country america (I meant bankers) doesn't like.
Why the HELL would the US want unrest in Iraq!? People can't sell you oil while they're busy blowing up their own infrastructure, especially when half the country falls under control of America's mortal enemies.
Dennis we don’t need them to sell it, Halliburton drills are in the ground. It’s being taken despite their consent.
" replicate vietnam" kinda hard when your country is flat desert and your enemy has air superiority. Works in Afghanistan because it's all mountains ,valleys and caves.
I mean you still have the element of knowing the terrain I guess.
@@Argos-xb8ek That doesn't mean as much when real time satellite imaging is a thing.
@@alexsitaras6508 And your a part of the local populace and could do the whole Guerrilla warfare thing
I Can Disagree With This, As An Iraqi.. I Can Tell You Right Now
It's Mostly Just Grass And Dust.
The U.S.S.R.'s invasion of Afghanistan was basically their Vietnam. and yeah, imaging upgrades definitely acted against sadam, plus he had a conventional military that he wanted to use for guerilla tactics, I mean, I guess it worked after he was dead. but yeah, what the u.s. did to Iraq is truly a crime against humanity
Should be renamed “How Americans can feel better about the invasion”
Oh c'mon, that's just an exaggeration
I prefer not to think of that preposterously stupid invasion at ALL... war should never be taken lightly, nor should the American people need to be deceived and lied to a thousand times to justify a war involving Americans, yet that is exactly what happened. People like Cheney (the corporation's fixer in government) and Wolfowitz (Tel Aviv's bubi in Washington) wanted Saddam ousted even before 9/11. So the nabobs simply bent the truth into half-truth and outright lies to make that invasion happen. Almost 20 years, several thousand American dead, a hundred thousand Iraqi lives, and a trillion dollars later - what did we achieve? Was it ever worth it?
@@robertmaybeth3434 then what's the solution? Withdrawal?
I don’t know how this video makes Americans feel better, just kinda makes me feel more sad about this conflict
@@accent1666 The solution was to leave Saddam where he was. I know that's a bad solution but WHAT happened the instant Saddam was removed? IRAN instantly took his place as the regional baddies along with Israel's constant yammering to the US of "Let's you and h im fight" as they also want the Iranian regime toppled, too. Preposterous, all of it.
as an iraqi fresh out of uni conscript back then, this is so inaccurate ,most what you said is just out of a parody book.
Out of curiosity how did you guys feel about the war at the time? Did you think it was possible to win? Do you feel Iraq today is better or worse than it was 20 years ago?
@@joshpearson2970 in iraq no one thought there is 1% chance to win except one man , and that is saddam
@@joshpearson2970
Only saddam believed that we can win
I think iraq today is better
Saddam tried to replicate Vietnam then realised his country aint got trees.
Surprised Pikachu face
@SKAK BAGHDAD most of Iraq is a flat open desert while Vietnam is a jungle stuffed with mountains
@SKAK BAGHDAD Iraq was well suited for blitzkrieg maneuvers at witch the modern US army excels at, while in Vietnam they got bogged quickly and they did not regained initiative .
SKAK BAGHDAD It’s is about the land and geography of a country that determines how easy it can be captured. For example Afghanistan isvery mountainous with very little road support makes it unconqurable. Same thing goes with Yemen, the saudi coalition with it’s massive forces, equipment and billions of dollars in expense still struggles to win the the war, now 5 years after they are still unable.
they also have no china that prevent USA from pushing up north, also support arm and officer from russia
@@carval51 Also true.
I love this Iraqi quote “ Saddam was horrible but horrible enough to keep a thousand Saddam’s”
My brain smal can you please tell me the meaning of this?
@@cheesedmacaroni it means that, Saddam's regime may be brutal, but it atleast kept law and order in Iraq, and since Saddam was toppled, many brutality and disorder happened in iraq, examples are plenty.
@@noblenaveragemanointernet2582 Åh thank you
I think a few years before an Iraqi man said this on news
'I toppled Saddam's statue, now I want him back'
Inquisitor Steele czcams.com/video/z9wC6W7EJpg/video.html
Short and sweet, as an kurd from iraq, the iraq invasion was the American version of mongol invasion
Saddam Hussein was hoping to replicate the Vietnam war yet somehow totally forgot that 28 years worth of technological advancement took place between 1975 and 2003...
It wasn't so much the technological advancements but rather it was Iraq's terrain{America is still fighting in Afghanistan even after all those technological advancements because Afghanistan is mountainous and unconquarable} contrast that with Iraq's terrain which is a flat desert unsuited for hit and run guerilla tactics
the missing piece is we have Uncle Ho!
@@thesecond4767 There was also the difference that the US could not actually invade North Vietnam for fear of further involving the USSR and China, but Saddam had no such protection after 1991.
@@josephmagana6235 That is true, it is also one of the reasons why North Korea are so hell-bent on making nukes because they saw what happened to Iraq [another hermit country with no allies post kuwait invasion] and don't want the same to happen to them.
Was just rewatching your North Africa series when this was posted.
BenTheMaster Gaming and More! Coincidence I think not
@rudiger891 He was mentioning he was watching another video made by ACH so he was probably happily surprised to see a new upload. Drinking a cup of coffee doesn't necessarily relate to the channel so that's his point.
Why do so many people like that?
@rudiger891 Well sure it doesn't really matter but he was just pointing out a coincidence
Okay as an Iraqi citizen. I would say it would be an understatement to say that this video is yet another western perspective video on what Iraq was and how Iraqis actually felt and why. of course it has some truth to it but the rest is completely shallow.
1st of all Iraqis had their "hostility" towards their "supposed liberators" not because of Saddam's regime or propaganda. but because of one memorable Iraqi character called Muhammad Muhammad-Sadiq al-Sadr who was a Shia marj' which is similar to being a pope in Christianity. the man's words were and I quote "NO NO AMERICA, NO NO INVADER". I will not go to his history because it's quite a long one. of course, I don't need to mention that Muhammed opposed Saddam's regime and that's why Saddam killed him. nonetheless, his son Muqtada (who is still alive) continued opposing American influence in Iraq (and still is to this very moment). the masses hated Saddam but they loved Muhammed that's the reason for the hostility. not Saddam being religious. if you want proof you only need to see history. Iraqis, both Sunni and Shia opposed the invasion. Saddam opposed the Shia. there is no way Shia Muslims would have supported his claim against the Americans, therefore, it wasn't him that fueled the masses. never was. and never will be.
2nd of all, it sickens me that people and this is even common among my countrymen, discuss Sunni and Shia as two conflicted branches in Iraq despite the fact that they literally lived harmoniously together before the American occupation. in my opinion and I could be wrong. but that seems to me like a "divide and conquer" plan more than "we are here to liberate you" plan. again you did say America could have avoided the chaos but they chose not to...
I will not deny that there was a conflict between Sunni and Shia militias but it must be mentioned that America had a huge role in inflaming that conflict.
so in conclusion, Iraq is fucked. and probably will be for quite a while Iraqi people are mentally defeated they are extremely divided, they lack a leader and the motivation to achieve anything. my country is in ruins. thank god or whatever you hold sacred for not having to see the country you love go in flames. God bless you all.
noticed that the vid was just another western perspective. how much influence do maraje3 have on iraqi opinion? w can u name some leaders akrad?
@@habibhteit6715 well I only speak for myself so my opinion doesn’t represent fact in any way but I’ll do what I can to answer you:
Maraje3 have huge influence over iraqi opinion, I think that’s evident through the country’s modern history, the election was encouraged by the maraje3. But it’s important to say that not all maraje3 have influence only few of them do. A good example is Muhammad al-sader and Al-Sistani who are the major religious leaders for shia Muslims. As for Kurdish leaders I cannot give you much information there for I am not as aware of what happens in the north of Iraq sorry about that 😂💔. However the only notable character there is their leader Masoud Barzani, who I have seen thanks to local news is a source of annoyance to the iraqi government.
Americans should have established some sort of Islamic presence. You win this war with ideology. Americans should have capitalized on their muslim soldiers, and promoted islam during the war.
Recognizing the Americans as humans, the Iraqis would have stabilized much better.
Yeah they will lie about anything, their MSM protects them from any reality based reporting.
I regret that I can only give you one like for this great comment.
George Washington: Warns against America intervening in foreign affairs and factionalism
Iraq War:
George Washington: bruh
2016-2020 election cycle:
George Washington: BRUH
2016-2020 Literally the only period in younger history of America not intervene in foreign affairs and factionalism. Furthermore making peace between other nations. Yet dumbbells hate Trump. Bruh.
@@maxworx1411 Qasem Soleimani.
Israel is still bombing Syria with explicit US support.
US ramped up the number of soldiers in middle east shortly after 2016
US has been indirectly supporting Israeli occupation of Palestinian lands.
It's no different from any other presidency, just been a lot of handwaving and choosing sides.
Stealing half of Mexico
George: OKAY OKAY I GET IT!!
@Meiji Tatsuya Making dictators in South America (see Pinochet)
George:
All the bombings of southern asia and the middle east
George: _What the f*ck did I say not to do?_
I thank Jacques Chirac for not having brought France to participate in this disaster. But I do not thank Sarkosy for having tarnished the image of my country in Libya.
Saddam wanted to sell oil in Euro instead of the dollar, which is why Bush invaded & Blair (who was pro-US/pro-NATO) supported and Chirac opposed.
Obi-wan: Anakin can't you see that the Sith are evil?
Anakin: From my point of view the Jedi are evil!
That's history and politics in a nutshell.
Lmao. That pretty much sums it up. The other guy is always the bad guy.
Guys guys listen your both right. were all just terrible people.
The Seperatists are the Real Good Guys... they are fighting for freedom against the tax oppressive Empire.
Though they commited some acts of atrocity. The Republic was woefully Corrupt ~ they turned on their own Jedis and destroyed them.
@@luigidisanpietro3720 had the separatist won the war the Jedi would've been eliminated anyways and the Empire would've won still
you simply cannot force freedom, democracy, liberty, and capitalism on people who simply do not have any idea what it is b/c they knew only oppression & tyranny.
The Iraq War: Freedom in 30 minutes or less or else it's free
Freedom in 30 minutes or less or if it will take more than 30 minutes, than it's rivers of blood and installing an illegite government only!
@@user-gp8cb9un7v says u ur country is trying to do the same with belarus and ukraine
@@yoloc1742 absolutely different thing. Ukrane and Belorussia are actually parts of Russia, only artificial borders and US-brainwashed minorities divide them
@@yoloc1742 Dude, I am from Ukraine... I am Russian by ethnicity, not by statehood, as well as almost half of the Ukraine
@@yoloc1742 Not every cyrillic using country is russian, just saying
Lmaooo "Iraqi perspective" and he doesn't even bring up Nisour or Abu-ghraib. Give me a break.
And collateral murder and many many more
What do you mean by nascar I Googled it and cant find anything can you explain?
@@WinkelmanSM-3 I meant nasour, but I think autocorrect changed it. I was referring to the nasour square massacre where black water mercenaries (working with the American military) indiscriminately shot up Iraqi civilians and basically got away with murder with no repercussions. Trump pardoned the people who killed innocent women and children that day. Thank you for pointing out the mistake, I'll fix it now.
@@highsun76 ah yes thnx I am familiar with that event👍
Probably trimmed out a lot to keep the video less than 14 min, probably need a 2 hour long documentary and supplemental reading to get the full scope.
when you try to replicate Afghanistan and Vietnam but realized your country is a flat desert without mountains or trees
It's not called an invasion, it's called surprise democracy.
Murica
Murica indeed brother
surprise liberation
Muricaaaaa
@Joseph Stalin u are welcome and they say Pakistan or maybe turkey was nice this time of year we might spread our democracy there, so how’s be heading Christians goingb
America's situation in Iraq, Afghanistan and middle east in general is like getting in quicksand and not knowing how to get out of it .
Not just the middle east. Same thing happened in Vietnam. The only success I can think of is Korea. But even there stable democracy came long after the war.
@@Tpoleful Japan and the Republic of Korea are defiantly the best examples of successful U.S. regime change.
Back then most Americans didn't know the difference between sunnis and Shia, now today they just don't care about the difference
Ali s West Germany is probably the prime example however.
The problem I see with the actions taken by the US government and the inevitable destabilization of the whole region is, that there isn't any direct, domestic effect like waves of mass migration / refugees that try to get to the USA. The ones to deal with the aftermath are the European states.
About the only youtuber left willing to tackle modern conflicts. You do an incredibly good job of giving a balanced view of the war.
11:55 that ain’t how you play chess chief
As an Iraqi, I am pretty sure a lot of fellow country men will agree with me when I say that I have completely lost hope for Iraq. The damage done will never be fixed in 20 years or so, this requires a lot of time. I am 90% sure I will never see my country return to stability in my lifetime.
You just need a brother. Everything will be fixed sooner or later
In your opinion were the American's intentions justified enough to invade?
Pretty much yeah
@@user-fl7zn2tn9q In the eyes of Iraq no, the forces did pull out of kuwait but Iraq had basically become a threat in the eyes of the other countries, I say it was pretty justifiable.
خلي املك في الله
The core problem with the US and Iraq is that they’re two different worlds, and the US didn’t know much of the traditions, culture and geopolitical situation of Iraq, they effectively shot in a dark room full of people hoping to hit someone important.
The core problem of US policy in Iraq and Afghanistan is actually that there is no problem at all. The current situation of those countries is by design. Go and look up Mackinder's heartland theory on CZcams. All of the US's terrorism propaganda falls apart.
@@bilalbaig8586 im inclined to believe this to be the case. There is no way military and intelligence agencies as advanced as the United States isn't going to understand historical schisms, infighting and culture in general.
You forgot that they are heading to Iraq for oil not to kill Sadam.
ShogunBean you really don't understand and iraq or was never a country to begin with it was made by British when the couldn't hold control over it they didn't care who they put in that new country when you say iraqi people it doesn't mean they are one people but a group of people who hate and wanna kill each other in one room just like putting a nazi and a jew in one room
I think a very overlooked cause of the US' incompetent post-invasion management is the fact that we are cheap. We had the ability and resources to aid in the reconstruction of Iraq and turn it into something useful, after all we've done it before in Europe and Japan. But instead we half assed it, because while the US is very willing to commit a truly astronomical amount of resources to fielding the best military equipment, something as comparably "mundane" as civic reconstruction in a country that isn't guaranteed to give us a financial return is apparently "not worth the cost to the American taxpayer." The US made a choice in this case, and that choice cost the middle east as a whole dearly. Granted that's only one part of the problem and the US can't be blamed for everything... but we sure can be blamed for a lot.
Holy molly the content of this channel is so good, why havent I discover it sooner?
This feels like watching a video game cutscene. You earn a sub sir
Thank you so much for all you do on this channel. Awesome stuff.
The Iraqi agents when they get their jobs back:
Wasn't expecting that but thats ok
A suprise to be sure but a welcomed one
The cia always has the most evil ideas even if it goes against their own goals
Vietnam- *longest military conflicted in US history*
Iraq and Afghanistan- Hold our beers
Hold our Zam Zam water* 🥛
Beer is haram
Iraq War technically ended in 2011. America would return in 2014.
@@Gillan1220 so iraq war season 2?
@@x_croner If you think of it more like Season 6
Season 1 - Iraq-Iran War (1980-1988)
Season 2 - Persian Gulf War (1990-1991)
Season 3 - Iraqi no fly zone (1991-2002)
Season 4 - Iraq War (2003-2011)
Season 5 - Post-U.S. Withdrawal violence (2011-2014)
Season 6 - ISIS War (2014-present)
5:53 is completely false many high-ranking officials had western education including but not limited to Huda Mahdi Ammash member of Revolutionary Command Council [RCC].
alow me to correct him on this, "those educated in western style that were not in the interest of saddam, were tortured and repressed " . from were do you think the whole concept of dictator came from ... they are hypocrites , as any person that want to protect "theyr culture" while attacking others .
@@unknow11712 laughable stretch, but keep trying!
@@ibn-talibdijlawi2521 This is exatly what all form of govern do with educated ppl that don't follow theyr doctrine, they repress them , one way or another .
Totalitarian tends to kill\imprison , religious totalitarian tends to kill\imprison\torture .
@@unknow11712 ah yes.. religious american just having fun in abu ghraib 🤣
@@publicenema8839 i'm not religious , and i'm not american , but keep trying .
Aaand i may have missunderstood you .
This is very well put together
Imagine Oversimplified and The Armchair Historian made a video together.
Goly
That would be bad. The armchair historian goes a lot deeper into history with a sober tone while oversimplified tries to make everything funny for the masses.
GrayStillPlays and The Armchair Historian
"Ah right, so today we're gonna talk about Iraq War."
“Oh usa you’ve made a big mess”
Yeah nah AH is way more serious while OS is pretty light-hearted
7:32 Thats the Syrian Emblem....
Uh oh!
Our mistake man, no idea how that slipped through.
oh right lol
@@TheArmchairHistorian why did you say *Iraqi perspective* in the title, if the sourcea are western ones lol
the best007 It tries to bring an extremely neutral perspective. Ofcourse bias will be their though
For anybody interested on the subject, you could like "le parfum d'Irak" a book by Feurat-Alani.
Born in France to a couple of Iraki political refugees in 1980, he's had some occasions to visit the country between his childhood and now that he is a journalist for Reuters operating there.
He told his story and his personal experience and understanding if the country's History through a thousand tweets compiled into a graphic novel. The french-german tv network Arte also made a 40 minutes long animated miniseries.
I don't know if you'll find any of it in english though. I doubt an American or British publisher would invest in such a project sadly.
The worst thing about the Iraq war is that it made living under Saddam Hussein's totalitarian, genocidal regime seem like a better option than the post invasion situation. At least before the war I could walk around in Baghdad without the risk of being blown up on my way to school. Thanks for a good attempt of trying to unpack this complicated and complex nightmare. A nightmare that for us Iraqis, is ongoing and will persist for many years to come unfortunately. When will we wake up?
Have you ever considered that that’s because you’re a part of the majority?
@rorypaul153 ask the assyrians how's life after the invasion and destruction of the US.
In 2006
We were can't get out of our homes
If you go to work perhaps you will not be coming back
My mom was telling me to not play outside
And she would beat me if i did
Still i remember the image of the Americans soldiers entering our houses to check if we have guns or not.
Peace for you and your country.
can we have even a remote sense of what you experience, at least for those of us in lockdown.
i know being in a war is completely different, but just as something to relate to, is it kind of like in some limited sense like the lockdown we have now?
Live The Future not even close bro
@@livethefuture2492 a mandated lockdown over a virus in a stable country with things other people would consider luxuries is no where near as bad as having to stay indoors for your physical safety and even then not being able to truly be safe
@@luisg.9262
yes of course i understand.
lockdown is definitely not comparable to war.
i am from India, and i suppose the closest experience i have for that would be the disputed region of Kashmir, also in the middle of conflict, regular violence, and bombings. fear of being shot if you leave your house. and soldiers and armed militia everywhere.
anyway thanks for sharing.
*SADDAM: **_Did you get freedom?_*
*People : **_Well yes but actually no._*
*SADDAM: **_What did cost?_*
*People : **_Everything._*
Perfection.
And it only costed 75 cents.
And also tattoo 's five yen
@optimus prime how he was bad bcz western told you so? A leader cant be nice in every way.saddam was bad look iraq what happened,gaddafi was bad look libya,yemini leader was bad look at yemen
Saddam did say you can't live without me
@Meiji Tatsuya bro the guy that threw the slipper is apart of my clan
Thanks for this great video
Your graphics are really good. Well done
Christion bishop in Mosel said " the worst day was when Americans invaded. the next was when they left"
Only thing protecting them was saddam😔
True
@@KaKa-hz3du It's a lose-lose situation, either an insane paranoid murderous dictator or huge political instability and armed conflict
Ronaldjr Montagne rather have the dictator
@@xijunpinlingte1435 not really
I feel sorry for the Iraqi people. They’ve been dragged into unending conflict for years that many didn’t want. Just because bush had a happy trigger finger.
@David McConville i agree as an arab sadam was by all means not a good guy but at the same time he kind of held the country together either way the usa getting involved was a horrible and stupid decision and it ultimately culminated in the death of millions of innocent iraqi people
👏well said
David McConville well to be fair nation building there probably would have happened had domestic pressure from hippies not made the bush administration pull out. Even then, by 2008, iraq had been stabilized by bush and it was obama pulling out of iraq because of his inexperience that lead directly to the rise of isis.
To be honest it wasn’t much of bush more his subordinates who messed up with the rebuilding process
@@perniciousseizurehellio3438 There were 2 major problems with the reasoning of going to war to free Iraq.
1. Bush and other war hawk Republicans believed that they could win democracy for a nation. The problem with this idea is that if you win a nation's "freedom" for them. You have to stay there to keep it. If the goal was to topple a cruel regime, then it should have been done in 1991 when there was a legitimate reason for it.
2. If you are going to be foolish enough to "free" a people, then you have to understand the people. The American leadership should have studied the religious/cultural differences within the nation. You also need to have a rebuilding plan, (Like the Marshal Plan after WWII), that rebuilds the country and provides stability and security.
I have no idea if this would have worked, but it might have been a good idea to split the country between the 2 major factions/religious groups. Little bit like India/Pakistan.
One reason why I am supporting President Trump in 2020, is because he does not want to go to war with Arab countries to set up "free" governments that are friendly to the USA as a means of creating peace.
Fantastic video :)
Hello, I love your videos and I love learning about history, but I think it would be awesome if you could make a discord for discussion about history, and other stuff like that. I have been on the search for a discord sever for history discussions for a while but I can’t find any. Thank you for making great content!
They hawe a discord
Establish a stable government!
WE WON WE DEFEATED THEM
But the gove-
Fine, the government is made equal
But the other extre-
If that's not stable, I don't know what is!
oversimplified?
Yeah... I will never understand why we did not stay and build up their government like we did in Europe, Japan, and Korea.... It was the point of the war after all.
@@GreenBlueWalkthrough
My guess is that post 9/11 America really hated Muslims so there was less desire to create an ally out of Iraq and more of a “completely destroy the industry and suppress all cultures there so they’ll never be a threat again”
@@nathanialramirez160 well we paid the price for it
@@user-Jay178
I thought the America and by extension the western world (but in this case mostly america) already knew that creating a bitter loser after a war was a bad idea but I overestimated my home country.
You teach me more than my history teachers.
True
So true
Biggest problem with teaching. There's only a finite amount of time to cover different periods, also depends on the type of school you go to as well. My college history classes were so much better than in high school especially when you take subsets of history. Like my civil war professor specialized in the antebellum/civil war/ reconstruction era of American history. Published authors in the field tend to make up for the generic high school experience of history.
That's because you don't listen to your teacher kid
@@DisgruntledHippo yeah I feel the same way
Very Good info👍🔥
I just started watching this a week ago this is so good I love it
11:05 therapist:Leonardo di caprio dressed as Uncle Sam that works for the CIA isn't real it can't hurt you
Leonardo di caprio dressed as Uncle Sam that works for the CIA:
UwU what's this? Waterboard? UwU.
Legendary
The animations just keep on improving.
Yaaaaa
Great video
“The armchair historian”
That’s every historian. What, you think we do our research standing up? If I’m going to be pouring through endless documents and accounts I better be comfortable and in good chair while I do it.
*"How History Repeats Itself"*
Some Kids: History is *BORING.*
Me: What do you want to be then when you grow up?
Some Kids: The President!
cencorship and ignorance also plays a big part.
@@anakalim6988
Yes... a country chooses well what to say and what not to say....
Lol true in many ways...but you can't overwrite human nature hence why history keeps repeating itself.
This like a western perspective of 'the Iraqi perspective';
Absolutely
Very Interesting.. Well Done
amazing
This is a western perspective and not an Iraqi one..
@Yóu Çef “Muslims fight American because they’re infidels” he literally said that , unbelievable.
He’s literally justifying US troops killing civilians, no idea why this self proclaimed historian has any credibility
@@KD-oy8qt They're called Sunni and Shiite because they're religious groups... religious groups who became radicalized after 2003. Those religious groups often painted American soldiers as infidels to justify their killings. What's so hard to understand about that?
@@offchance789 Or maybe they are fighting because they want to defend their home country from an invading force?
@@ihatetrainyards4859 while also fighting against each other and killing groups of iraqis they dont like?
Griffin: *teaches history*
Susan: I’m about to end this mans whole career
What? Who is Susan?
@@goldenfiberwheat238 Susan is CZcams's CEO
Initiate Operation CZcamsr Freedom
Mr Armchair,
After this clip it is really hard to trust any other history you present to us as being fair, legit and unbiased.
11:05 Had me Crying OMG 🤣🤣🤣
I’m from Iraq saddam hussein he’s god man but United states kills saddam and now Iraq is destroyed because of the United States
@@ryadhsalmansalman9108 I'm from iraq too but I was Lucky to only go though one war i really miss my home country i hope your doing well
@@zahraaalmasaoudy8902
are you from iraq
@@ryadhsalmansalman9108 yes
@@zahraaalmasaoudy8902
can you spek arabic
no one compared to the USA when spreading their 'democracy'
Europe in the '40s sure was glad to have a taste of it.
@@HeadHunterSix That was a whole different animal, hence why most of the countries that involved from that time thrives up until today.
Modern USA 'democracy' however, is not the same as it was 60-70 years back. What happened in Vietnam, Iraq, Libya and a few more middle-eastern countries was horrible and completely unnecessary. How can you bring 'stability' to a country that is already fairly stable? Most of these so-called 'dictators' had majority supports and are chosen by the people through an election. How is that a dictator? Erdogan, the leader of Turkey, is coined a 'dictator' by the western media because he strongly opposed the USA and it's allies, but as far as I knew, he won all of his election fairly due to majority support. July 15th attempted coup proves that.
All things said, the government of USA have a very bad image in the eyes of the world due to it's very aggressive and warmongering politics. They hate when foreign countries wants to interfere in their internal affairs, but love doing it to people who lacks the ability to resist and in the end, forced to comply. A perfect description of a bully.
@@haiqalzaki5113 "Erdogan, the leader of Turkey, is coined a 'dictator' by the western media because he strongly opposed the USA and it's allies, but as far as I knew, he won all of his election fairly due to majority support"
@@MelGibsonFan lol 😂
I just finished listening to *BLOWBACK* - a great podcast about US involvement in Iraq, which I can’t recommend enough. I was alive and actively following politics throughout that whole period, but the podcast tracks a lot of things that were going on well below the surface.
Thanks for the lead.
9:32 The guy at the left in the yellow shirt looks like the butcher from Call of Duty
So basically everything that could go wrong, went wrong
No. U.S could have lost the initial ground offensive to Sadam, which would have been catastrophic for the U.S projection of power.
@@dasmaverick1063 I think it was intentional. Nothing went wrong. They wanted to put Shia. In charge. And lay the ground for ISIS. Same in Libya where it was million times easier to establish a stable state. They didn't want that
@@nehalnoly2942
You sure have a lot more confidence in the competence of the US administration than me or the average American, or the average American bureaucrat.
The way you talk makes me think that the US government is like some sort of god who can pretty much make everything and anything happen, exactly as they want it to and never, ever make a mistake.
At this rate, I wouldn't be surprised if you said that you think that the Americans deliberately lost the Vietnam War and let the Somalis shoot their Black Hawk down, just to get Saddam Hussein to let his guard down.
But if that's really what you believe, I honestly think that you're letting your own imagination play against you. No offence.
@@zhouwu you really think the Americans didn't know what they were doing, the most powerful nation to have ever existed didn't know how to properly wage war?
@@mohammedal-rawi3420
Have you seen the way their recent elections have gone? People have died. Their own people.
Killed by people who thought they were doing what the president wanted them to do. But the president didn't show up, and now, is about to go to court for impeachment.
Sure, they've got high tech machines of war and extensive soldier training. But they are still human beings. And if there's one thing all human beings are good at, it's making mistakes.
And then, thinking: Damn! Why did I do that? Oh yeah! It seemed like a good idea at the time. Where did I go wrong? Oh well, hindsight bias is always 20/20. I couldn't have known what I didn't know. Whoops. Let's try again next time and try our best not to mess up again.
Oh, wait. How did that happen? I guess it was more complicated than I thought. I was just trying to help. People can see that, right? Oh, wait, they think I'm just here for the oil? Don't they have a clue how much a war costs? We are in national debt trying to save people, and this is what we get? What the hell? Screw them!
Damn it! Somehow is asking for help! Ignore it! Damn, I can't! I feel bad just doing nothing. Ok, here we go again!
Oh man! Not again! It went worse than we started? Screw this!
Etc etc etc etc.
At the end of the day, the average American just wants to be loved. When they find out nobody loves them, they get angry and disillusioned and just try to get rich and powerful. And then, people really start to hate them. Then they get even more angry, and try to grow even more rich and powerful and technologically advanced so that nobody would dare to attack them again. And then, people get scared of them, so work together to weaken them. Then, they get scared and try to make their country stronger and the other countries either love them or rely on them or too weak to hit them. Then, people start to panick about them trying to take over the world. And they strike back. And then the Americans try harder to be nicer, fail. Stronger, makes more enemies. Gets hurt. Gets angry. Tries again. Etc etc etc.
Tragic, really.
Viewers: oh wow, education system rlly failed on teaching history
CZcams algorithm & monetisation: Uh Uh Oohhhhhh
This was a good video.
I can’t believe how far Griffin has come over these years, this content is sooo good. This is my favorite part on the Iraq war love how nuanced and objective it is and contrary to the comments I saw beforehand how justified the war was and how American can do no wrong. The poor Iraqi people haven’t had a break in over 40 years...
We are continuing a long and proud European tradition: leaving an absolutely chaotic shitshow in our wake, learning nothing and then trying the same thing again.
11:38 I honestly thought he was going to say the CIA killed them. Feels almost like a bizarre story plot line from a movie.
FBI hires convicted hackers to help with computer investigations and cybersecurity tasks.
Lol in the news at 2:06 it says in the yellow box "The new corona virus"
This needs to be its own tv show
7:14 the insignia used is of Syria, not Iraq
It says “Syrian Arab republic”
I have to laugh. It's such a typical mistake. He's still more educated than the average guy, though.
To be fair, it would have caught me out also. I guess it pays to learn a bit of Arabic before choosing which flag to use?
fucking embarrassment tbh
I literally stopped the video after seeing this. This dude has no credibility :/
i mean ... the Party was founded in syria by syrians
and saddam was part of it
and still the difference between both flags was 1 star only
so its hard to not mistake for non arabs
The animation in these newer videos is astounding, you guys should be proud. Keep it up!
well, I was waiting for UN to be mentioned and I'm not surprised.
Wow that video was great! As an Iraqi myself, I would like to say that there aren’t as many high quality videos of the Iraqi perspective in the invasion, which is why I’m so happy to see this!
dude just wanna say you have the best history content
Totally
He’s up there with Indy Neidel as one of the best history narrators for me
Facts
@@rundownthriftstore I think indy is way better than him but he's still very good.
Ya mannnnn
Guy: *Tortures people and admits it*
The CIA: Great! Thats what we are looking for.
wow at the ad. just wow
6:21 fun fact: this car is the Volkswagen Passat, and it was built in Brazil.
In Brazil they were called the "Iraqi Passat", for they were built specifically for Saddam - but he stuck up on his payments and many of those volkswagens remained in Brazil, being sold in the internal market. They were very luxurious cars, with internal carpets in a red/wine color, 4 doors (which wasnt a thing in Brazil back then) all electric windows, air conditioning, am/fm stereo with K7 players, the whole shebang.
It's very accurate for this car to be in this video.
*_US defeats Saddam and his forces_*
Iraq: Hooray! Down with the dictator! We will now have a new Leader for the people of Iraq!
US: *_A new leader? ...More like under new management._*
Iraq: wtf?!
*_US fails to stabilize Iraq_*
US: Aight imma head out
Iraq: The country is now in shambles, and it's going to take a long while to fix this... At least we can now do this oursel-
ISIS: *_ALLOW US TO INTRODUCE OURSELVES_*
Iraq: *_SONUVA-_*
Iraq in a nutshell
That’s Pretty much it
If US ever took its nation rebuilding seriously
Iraq would not have become such a war torn country
But as we now see
They did not
So was it worth it?
I suppose no.
And now the U.S and Iran are using Iraq as a geopolitical chessboard.
@@zagreus1249 They should've helped Iraq like what they did with Japan or South Korea
So, in essence, Saddam studied alot of American failures in war, but embodied the mistakes of Italy in World War Two. What a cunning guy...
He also didn't factor in that his opponent MIGHT have the capability of learning from their mistakes.
The Vietnam war was over for 30 years by that point and the US has since been determined not to do a repeat of that performance. Operation Gothic Serpent was over 10 years ago and he ignored America's demonstration of power in his own backyard during the Gulf War that occurred in the same decade.
Saddam either banked too much on willful ignorance and wishful thinking, or he really was that dumb to expect his opponent, a world superpower with a notoriously high military spending budget, would never adapt to the times. Italy was atleast aware they were outclassed, but tried going for gold anyway.
I mean, he did succeed in turning this war into a massive failure...just...not exactly the way he imagined lmao
@@SuperRadAttack Yes, exactly my point, his army structure much reminisces of the Italian invasion into Greece during World War Two, maybe even worse.
"If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle." ~Sun Tzu, it seems Americans forget about this step in Iraq and some other country they messed up
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It's truly mindblowing how the US sabotaged their own effort at nearly every turn. The Iraqi war should stand as a monument to how bad things can get if you invade without planning or understanding of other nation's cultures and people. The Iraqi people deserved much, much, much better than this
Agreed.
Afghanistan??
This whole event will go down as one of the biggest foreign policy blunders in U.S. history, next to the Vietnam War. It was a tragedy for both sides. Maybe one day we can bond over that shared misery.
Nah
Could have waited till the Arab spring and intervene with rebellion against saddam.
@@blenterbl easily could have. Hindsight is always 20/20, but looking back, had we of shown a modicum of patience, his own people could've removed Saddam.
What about Afghanistan I mean America did succeed (beat the ussr) but the aftermath was 2 decades of war for nothing
@@aliabbasnaqvi347 still ongoing, thus the jury is still out on that. On one hand, the coalition just can't abandon the region and create a murderous power vacuum. On the other, how long do they intend to stay exactly? And why?
I always knew out government botched this up but, I never realized just how badly. Thank you for your unbiased approach to facts man it has made me a more informed citizen of the USA and the world.
Values loyalty above all else. Ringin a bell for me