The martyrs of Soviet Union died in this campaign were honoured in the red army graveyard in northern China. These souls will be honoured forever as of our fallen brothers although they are foreigners. As Chinese traditions the deceased heros' graves are sacred and honourable as the pride of this country. We(Chinese) shall never doing despicable things like Polish, Czech, Baltics has vandalizing the red army graveyards and pulling down red army statutes. Instead we honoured them as what history has written.
Stalin had promised to attack the Japanese 3 months after Germany surrendered. He attacked the Japanese 3 months to the day, after the German (2nd) surrender.
The T's were crossed and the I's dotted at the Potsdam conference and Uncle Joe kept his promise in Manchuria. Potsdam was also when the first Atomic test took place. The USA announced to the Soviets and the other Allied leaders that they held an ace after the successful test detonation. Apparently Joseph Stalin when informed of this success replied "We already know about that" Was Uncle Joe playing "poker face" or did the Soviets actually, genuinely know about the Atomic test?
@@johnhaller7017 Klaus Fuchs, a German Scientist in the Manhattan Project, was a former member of the German COMMUNIST PARTY. He was also an agent for Soviet Intelligence [the GRU...military intelligence] So, Stalin DID know most of the details of the Project, because of this.
It was about the only thing he kept kept his word on the whole time he partnered with the allies. It was what ultimately ended the war, as there was no way the Japs wanted to fight the Russians. As brutal as the Japanese soldiers were to the Chinese the Russians were 10 X's worse towards the Germans and anyone they came across.
Soviet army victory against Japan prior to WWII was of great importance. It resulted in a non-aggression treaty with Japan, allowed Soviets to fight only on one front against Germans and bring east located troops to the western front.
The Early victory helped end the war also. It has been said the Japanese did not surrender because of the two nuclear bombs, it helped, how ever the Japanese feared the Russians the most.
While yes the Soviets claimed a victory the truth is a bit different. The Soviets claimed they killed 70,000 Japanese when in reality at Khalkin Gol there were about 1,000 Japanese officers and 20,000 Manchurian soldiers. Japan also had no supply support from Tokyo in this battle. The Soviets Outnumbered Japan 3:1 but still managed to lose their entire army. Both sides had lost their armies in this battle with no resupply in sight. Its a tie at best. This is why the non aggression pact was pretty equal in its terms. The Soviets vastly underestimated the Japanese here, especially hardened Japanese aviators with your average pilot having destroyed plenty of Chinese pilots already. Iirc one Japanese pilot took down 11 Soviet aircraft in one day, making some record at the time. But of course when August 1945 rolled around the situation for Japan was bleak. The most inexperienced soldiers would be stationed in Manchuria and the most experienced stationed at either the homeland or the Japanese islands in preparation for an American offensive. At this point in time hardly any food or ammo was getting to the soldiers in Manchuria. Without any armor or aircraft support this was an easy task for even the most incompetent armies to sweep Manchuria
@@user-pn3im5sm7k the ever incompetent japanese deserved to lose. Those who lived by the sword will die when their sword becomes rusty due to whatever reasons
@@johngriep5352 WHAT? No they didn't. They beat Russia in the Russo Sino War. The Japanese weren't scared of the Russians. They were TERRIFIED of the Americans and the atomic bomb. Homie, the US put Japan in an impossible situation where we were firebombing Tokyo, leveling entire CITIES with atomic bombs, and had them cut off from oil and resources. Then, when they did surrender, the US occupied Japan and pillaged it ANYWAY while stripping them of their culture, dignity, and values. Why do you think the elderly Japanese HATE Americans to this day and will refuse them service? And they have a right to hate Americans.
I think few japanses really understod what teh atmombombs where. It was qucik and extremly devastating but what did teh average japanses (military or civilian) know?@@johngriep5352
My great uncle used to talk about the screams of the Japanese during his time in the pacific. Didn't know they trained that and knew it would shock the enemy.
Yeah. until , like the Germans , felt the 6000 , or more artillery pieces , combined with it's mighty plethora of armoured vehicles cutting thru Japanese defences as a hot knife through butter .
@@JohnEglick-oz6cd Japanese forces were by this time depleted and probably under rationed and outta' gas. The real cream of this force had already been skimmed off for the Pacific War against the Allies. This force would be easy pickings for the well oiled and well supplied Soviet War Machine.
The Soviet Union declaring war on Japan was as big if not a bigger motivating factor for Japan's surrender as the A bomb. Though the Red Army smashing Japan's forces in Manchuria was a nasty surprise the Soviet invasion of south Sakhalin island followed by the invasion of the Kuril islands was a nastier and more threatening surprise since it brought Soviet forces within striking distance of Hokkaido. The last thing the Emperor wanted was Japan invaded by the Bolsheviks. Similar to the Germans when the situation was accepted as truly hopeless far better to surrender to the Americans than the Soviets.
1.) I don't think you understand that the USSR was war weary and had a HUGE depletion of manpower after Germany surrendered. It would be difficult for them to just redeploy against mainland Japan. 2.) Japan's surrender was 100% because of the atomic bomb. They had no means to protect against them and they worked A LOT better than when Americans firebombed Tokyo and killed tens of thousands. 3.) Dude, the USSR would still have to deploy and island hop. It'd be a problem. 4.) Hokkaido was split down the center with the northern half being Russian and southern Japanese. This happened after the Japanese defeated Russia in the Russo Sino war. So there was already a Russian presence on the island, just not a big one. 5.) Yeah. surrender to the Americans. Where they occupy your land, pillage, steal, murder, then ban your culture, heritage, and customs while forcing you to adopt "western sensibility". Far better, huh?
@@marishiten5944 No historian would agree with you that Japan's surrender was 100% due to the A bombs that's just not supported by the facts. After Little Boy was dropped on Hiroshima there was no reaction at all from the Japanese to the surprise and astonishment of the US political leadership who expected their new wonder weapon to cower the Japanese to surrender. Why should the Japanese be shocked that another city was ravaged by bombing after all of their major cities had already been decimated by B-29 bombing raids? The fact that secondary cities Hiroshima had Nagasaki were targeted tells you how devastating the US bombing campaign had been. There were no intact primary Japanese cities left to target with A bombs. That it took only one aircraft vs 400 to devastate a city was meaningless to the Japanese they'd already become desensitized by the US's massive bombing campaign. And Operation Meeting House the fire bombing of Tokyo Mar 9-10 '45 that you marginalize was the single most destructive bombing raid in human history. It obliterated 16 square miles of Tokyo and killed over 100K civilians, far more people than either of the A bombs initial death tolls. As for the Soviet invasion threat to Hokkaido it would have been a difficult amphibious campaign for them but the Japanese probably didn't know Soviet capabilities very well so they perceived it as a real threat. Also all available Japanese military resources were being sent south to reinforce Kyushu which is where they knew the Americans were planning to invade in their operation Downfall so Hokkaido was lightly defended Aug '45. Also the Soviets and Japanese both occupied Sakhalin island not Hokkaido as you mentioned. Your take on this part of WW2 history is not supported by the facts.
@@anthonycruciani939 By the time the atomic bombs were dropped , Japan was already defeated. It was only a matter of time before they would have surrendered. The US submarine blockade was starving the country by the day. US air power ran rampant over Japanese cities destroying one after the other. As you said correctly the firebombing raid on Tokyo in March was more destructive than the nukes. The Kwantung army by August was a shell of its former self, as all of its best equipment and men had been sent to the Pacific and had been annihilated. The atomic bombs had a duel purpose: First - to warn the Russians the US could and would prevent them from advancing any further west in Europe. Second - to hasten the surrender of Japan, to prevent a potentially horrific invasion of the Japanese mainland.
Why a nasty surprise? Japanese forces stationed at Manchuria was weakened severely due to units going to southern area to fight the Americans and the British. They also were mostly consisted of reserves with no basic training while lacking even rifles.
I've seen online Ukrop propagandists howling that this was an example of Ruskie perfidy, not bothering to find out that it was organised between the allies, that Stalin wasn't really bothered about taking part.
But if I were Japan, I would back talks to the Soviet Union to become a partner against the west so that I would still remain in power in terms of military.
@@4BobayBut if I were Japan, I would back talks to the Soviet Union to become a partner against the west so that I would still remain in power in terms of military.
@@kennethmorales5121 in 1945 the USSR (Stalin) wanted many territories in the Far East and Japan with a large military would not have been good for the Red Army.
It was an informative and clearly explained historical coverage video. Thank you for sharing. Was not forgotten conflicts occurred before WW2.. both British and German supported technically the Japanese naval fleets before 1905 and prepared it for 1905 naval conflict against Russian naval fleets in the Far East. After WW1 .who donated legitimate coverage to Japan for establishing its colonialism bases in Toruk and Manchuria!? Whey Britain, France, and The USA donated those territories to the Japanese empire... these territories were not inside Britain, France, and the USA borders. Also, they weren't satellite vassals of them ? Before WW2, several internal Balkan region conflicts and beast Genocides occurred . So, WW2 disastrous occurred as summation and outcomes of Axis aggressions and alliance mistakes committed around the world after the WW1.
Great documentary but 75% of this wasn’t covering the actual conflict between Japan and the USSR but rather the cultural state or China and Japan leading up to the war. Still very interesting.
I remember in the original it showed dead bodies, and honestly, as bad as that looks, it's the true tragedy of war. and you only see a few seconds of it. best we don't forget
because its just them stealing an old episode of battlefield and taking credit,heres the actual full 2 hr episode from the 90s czcams.com/video/LBuMDG2TvcY/video.html
I really liked the narration lines why the Chinese who in their 4000 year history never waged an aggressive war being forced to fight 😂😂😂... Now USA wants to prove that Chinese are war mongerors...
They are. They just go about it in proxy wars. Ever heard of the Korean war? Who do you think supplied North Korea? Are you going to tell me that they don't attack India and Tibet in a power struggle for territory? Are Mongols just not Chinese now and they didn't sail to Japan to conquer them? Are you going to tell me that they didn't attack Korea and Indonesia? What planet are you from?
@@marishiten5944We are from the planet where USA and UK people value honesty and decency higher than greed and narcissism. This is all very strange to us.
it's actually mostly true, for the most part China has just been internally focused or defending itself from Northern steppe invaders. They could've easily overrun most of the world like Mongols of not for their philosophy
I'm about 32 minutes - the Japanese "defense strategy" We were even able to stop and repel the glorious Red Army selectively in 45 with Tigers, Panthers, Stuks, 88 etc. Don't know the numbers exactly, but at least 2000 (???) T34 + T34/85 are rolling towards the Japanese... ...and the Japanese don't have anything that penetrates the armor of a T34. Winter is coming...⛄
Fascinating account of an easily forgotten confrontation . I suppose one could consider the Vichy French Premier Pierre Laval as an executed WW2 leader along with Tojo .
Not Forgotten, But Not Tought in The West .. The West Calls it the Jewish Geno when 6mill Eliminated, But that not true, Anyone that wasn't White Christian was Eliminated, Like 40mill Russians, The Germans thought of them lower then jews .. An Gypsies.. We can go on here .. But you then would have compassion for Russia & China what they whent through, Because of America!! .Cant have that !! HAPPY. the end is here for America tho.. who knew it would be so fast 😂... send me a postcard..
It only took the Russians 4 years to advance the same distance you can drive in a day. Coincidentally the same amount of time the rest of the allies freed the rest of the world.
Japan wouldn't stand a chance had the Soviets then continued their assault on the country after the US bombed Hiroshima and Nagasaki. It definitely was checkmate.
I do find it a little difficult to believe Russians attack on Japan in 1945 was a result of a desire to aid its allies rarter than a stark illustration of Russian perfidy, an attempt to extend both territorially and its influence. To argue to the contrary would in my personal opinion the height of naievity. Indeed these conquests remain as prize s. to date.
It was a Brilliant operation and one of the best and most successful of WW2 it was only 1.5 to 1 but usually the attacking force must outnumber the defensive force by at least 3 to 1, the USSR liberated Manchuria handed it over to the Chinese n left this is indeed Liberation
I'll dare to say it as a Japanese: Japan lost to the United States, considering that two atomic bombs were dropped. However, it's fortunate that the opponent we lost to was the U.S. If it had been the Soviet Union, Japan might have become a communist country, and thinking about being called "comrade" or something like that, I truly think it's a good thing we lost to America. Chinese people at the United Nations may refer to Japan as a defeated nation, but I don't want to hear that from them. Even if Japan hadn't invaded, China would have eventually self-destructed and fallen apart.
Why is that funny? Americans murdered THOUSANDS of Japanese civilians in order to force capitulation by dropping atom bombs and starting fires in Tokyo. Funny, didn't we fight Germany because they did that to France? Oh, it's okay if WE do it, but not okay if THEY do it.
it wasn't until the soviet union invaded Manchuria did the Japanese know the war effort was futile ...it wasnt the A bombs that forced there hand as we are taught but the shock of the red army and its largest land force in the world that was the catalyst for Japanese capitulation
10:45 when the narrator says the Chinese are our ally and never wage aggressive war...within a few years if that statement they would be shooting at U.S. soldiers in Korea. edit: you gotta wonder if the soviets invading Manchria gave Mao and communism an extra advantage in controlling China. If so This cpl of weeks had huge implications that can still be felt today
they also say that Stalin was successful in staying out of WWII prior to Barbarossa, which I'd say is wildly inaccurate given Poland, Baltic States, and Finland: they were an aggressor just as much as Germany.
@@totensiebushthose are russian empire land, there is no such baltic states and finland for 300 years, thanks to lenin, they got their independence poland was attacking ussr when ussr was still in transition
@@voraciousreader3341Mao and Chiang Kai shek joined a coalition government. Russia armed Mao and Mao kept alot of Japanese weapons...they had different strong points in China and US came to realization we had to arm CHIANG all to late by then Mao had upper hand in civil war and ussr duplicity helped in that. Maybe instead of attacking others, you should do more reading
Excellent military hardware? Tanks that can be knocked out by a .50 caliber machine gun? Even the Type 95 tank...a 'medium' tank, is kind of feeble, compared even to early T-34s. Also, even a fully equipped Hapanese division is light on artillery...something the Red Army had aplenty. The Japanese were completely outclassed in their armor, both quality as well as quantity.
Soviet attacked Japan in the Manchuria only after the second atomic bomb exploded. Stalin knew that Japan would surrender very soon. He had to move his army into Manchuria quickly to take up the power vacuum after Japan surrendered. It was a land grasping act, not an effort to end the war. This point has to be clarified. Later the Soviet helped the Chinese Communists establishing basis in Manchuria with captured Japanese weapons. That gave the communists enough power to start a full scaled Chinese civil war.
wrong, Russia had started the invasion before the first bomb had even been dropped. Japan convened an emergency meeting between the Shogunate and Emperor about the disastrous defeat of their forces in Manchuria and didn't even learn about the second bomb until it was already underway. The ultimate surrender of Japan which is actually corroborated by many Japanese historians was the Soviet invasion and not the atomic bombs.
@@daisho4505 for opposite reasons. The Soviets would’ve annexed Hokkaido. The Germans just didn’t want to deal with the justified retribution of people they terrorized.
Why are you making things up? USSR didn't "move in" its military nor was there any "vacuum", instead they fought a huge battle against a huge Japanese military force! Also the USSR didn't grab any land but left it for the Chinese of which majority were the communist faction!
In 1945, the majority of Japanese army in Manchuria have been sent to Pacific fighting Americans. Many army units only have a name and few personal. That's why Soviet Union could sweep Japanese so quickly. Truman once said: " If I knew the nuclear bomb is so powerful, I won't let that bear out". 😅
The legendary Imperialist/ Fascist Japanese , with their tenacity was only for the Pacific islands . In Manchuria , the onslaught of the mighty Soviet military , and it's humongous armoured might , cut through Japanese defenses like a hot knife thru butter . And , many Japanese through up their hands , landing in Siberian Gulags in the Soviet Union .
Uh, no? If you knew anything about Japanese culture, especially in the military back then is that they did NOT surrender willingly. They had to be caught unaware in order to be a POW. That's why the Japanese didn't really take a ton of POW's in general. They saw it as dishonorable and would just kill soldiers trying to surrender.
@@marishiten5944 Yes , part of their code of the Samurai is Bushido , which is to die for the emperor ,vAnd glory . To surrender was to die a 1000 deaths as to die in battle 1death . But , by the end of 1944 , early 1945:in the Phillipines , and Okinawa the Imperialist/ Fascist Japanese were seeing the futility of fighting,and started to throw up their hands in surrender ! 10,000 Japanese troops were surrendering on the bloody "Battle Of Okinawa" !
@@marishiten5944 The Imperialist) Fascist Japanese fought bloody , tenaciously committing Sepaku / Hari Kari , and Banzai charges in the early part of the PTOv,vbut , later as the war was getting costlier ,vAnd it's palpable futility ,vJaoanese troops were surrendering .
@leejenkins7184 yeah the fact that he killed anyone opposing him meant killing off hia best generals... his reason for winning stalingrad was throwing people into a grinder, with the mindset eventually they'll stop them or run them out of ammo
@waltonsmith7210 doesn't matter he only won bc he threw his people by the millions to thier death... when your strategy is to throw people into the line of fire to try and run the Germans out of ammo you are NOT a great military leader point blank period
Maybe because you are US citizen or European. It's not uncomfortable for Asians, African, or Latin American. After all, it's not Soviet who stage coup, trigger genocide, overthrow democratically elected leaders, or invade some countries to extract their natural resources.
We want manchuria be back to our own people ! Japanese people helped us . The great manchuria should be independent country and with our alliance japan.
The Russians wanted to do what Russians do. They let almost half of all Japanese prisoners they took die in POW camps. The 65,000 taken back to Russia died to the man, while tens of thousands died in china.
Where did you read your history?? You COULD NOT be more wrong! The atomic bombs were dropped because of the predicted American deaths of one million soldiers to invade and conquer the mainland. The Marines had suffered terrible casualties nowhere near 1 million dead at Iwo Jima and Okinawa, and President Truman and everybody else involved were not prepared to lose that many men. Prime Minister-but really dictator-Tojo had no intention of surrendering, so whatever you thought about August 6 is wrong. The Emperor didn’t intervene after the first atomic bomb, but did after the second, and insisted that Tojo accept the Allied terms of surrender. Tojo was forced to back down, and the Emperor made a recording which was to be broadcast on August 14, 1945, but a group of 1000 Imperial Army officers and soldiers committed an unprecedented invasion of the Palace grounds to find and destroy the recording because they thought surrender was unacceptable, regardless of the terms. They were effectively dealt with, and the broadcast went ahead. The fact that 2 devastating bombs had to be dropped, in addition to the tons of incendiary bombs which had been dropped prior to that is more than enough evidence to tell you that *THE JAPANESE MILITARY AND PEOPLE HAD NO INTENTION OF SURRENDERING TO THE ALLIES.*
I subscribed to the Soviet’s won the war theory for a while. As I become more read on the subject I know America really was instrumental. The Allies may have won or may not have but once America came In the fight it was over. The Axis were never going to win. And Japan surrendered because of American technology. The USSR was depleted at that point and were kinda toothless.
You really mean more brainwashed. How I despise this American "we won the war" nonsense. What the American excelled at was kill millions of civilians. The Soviets were so toothless that it was there attack on Japan that caused Japan to surrender. Dropping the two A bombs was just an exercise in power by that criminal Truman
@@manuelmontoya9123 I understand that. They couldn’t have outfought us either. But I believe the bomb made them surrender. That’s why they signed the treaty on the USS Missouri and not the Moscow.
I forgot what Got us here, the subtle wording and grazing over to avoid important subject. Add pandering to maniacal Jewish Bolshevik fiend for a properly discreetly written piece of propaganda.
It's not forgotten. The Soviets gunned down Japanese civilians in Manchuria as they were trying to get to transport ships to get them to Hokkaido. No shocking, considering that Soviets weren't against war crimes. The USSR was up there and even surpassed Germany. On top of that, the Russians were pretty bitter about being curb stomped in the Russo Sino War and booted out of Hokkaido.
what the Soviets was doing was revenge. considering they heard stories on how brutal the Japanese forces are towards civilians and Pows. In fact, way worse than Nazis. after unleashing terrible vengeance on Germans, they decide to do that to the Japanese too.
Funny how Stalin whined and complained about the Americans and British taking too long to open a front in the west and yet he refused to open a front in the east 🤔
It was a game changer in 1941 and 42 With the later models the t34-85 it was actually a good all around tank and was really good when used in high numbers You still see t34s used all over the world, no other tank has a service life like the t34 Was watching that show on armoured warfare on the history channel and they were showing those t34s in Korea vs US tanks and one of those vets said themselves They weren’t scared of the Koreans in the tanks, they were scared of the t34s The 85mm gun was enough to take on anything on the battlefield Source: your mothers deep deep dry bushes
@@shwnbur77 nah that’s overkill The lend lease sent a bunch of stuff but no steel from America Equipment yes, food yes and other stuff but not steel In fact no raw materials were supplied other than fuel and petroleum products Soviets on the other hand did supply raw materials such as manganese ore chrome ore wood and gold and platinum
The martyrs of Soviet Union died in this campaign were honoured in the red army graveyard in northern China. These souls will be honoured forever as of our fallen brothers although they are foreigners. As Chinese traditions the deceased heros' graves are sacred and honourable as the pride of this country. We(Chinese) shall never doing despicable things like Polish, Czech, Baltics has vandalizing the red army graveyards and pulling down red army statutes. Instead we honoured them as what history has written.
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Stalin had promised to attack the Japanese 3 months after Germany surrendered. He attacked the Japanese 3 months to the day, after the German (2nd) surrender.
The T's were crossed and the I's dotted at the Potsdam conference and Uncle Joe kept his promise in Manchuria. Potsdam was also when the first Atomic test took place. The USA announced to the Soviets and the other Allied leaders that they held an ace after the successful test detonation. Apparently Joseph Stalin when informed of this success replied "We already know about that" Was Uncle Joe playing "poker face" or did the Soviets actually, genuinely know about the Atomic test?
@@johnhaller7017 Klaus Fuchs, a German Scientist in the Manhattan Project, was a former member of the German COMMUNIST PARTY. He was also an agent for Soviet Intelligence [the GRU...military intelligence] So, Stalin DID know most of the details of the Project, because of this.
It was about the only thing he kept kept his word on the whole time he partnered with the allies. It was what ultimately ended the war, as there was no way the Japs wanted to fight the Russians. As brutal as the Japanese soldiers were to the Chinese the Russians were 10 X's worse towards the Germans and anyone they came across.
Soviet army victory against Japan prior to WWII was of great importance. It resulted in a non-aggression treaty with Japan, allowed Soviets to fight only on one front against Germans and bring east located troops to the western front.
The Early victory helped end the war also. It has been said the Japanese did not surrender because of the two nuclear bombs, it helped, how ever the Japanese feared the Russians the most.
While yes the Soviets claimed a victory the truth is a bit different. The Soviets claimed they killed 70,000 Japanese when in reality at Khalkin Gol there were about 1,000 Japanese officers and 20,000 Manchurian soldiers. Japan also had no supply support from Tokyo in this battle. The Soviets Outnumbered Japan 3:1 but still managed to lose their entire army.
Both sides had lost their armies in this battle with no resupply in sight. Its a tie at best. This is why the non aggression pact was pretty equal in its terms.
The Soviets vastly underestimated the Japanese here, especially hardened Japanese aviators with your average pilot having destroyed plenty of Chinese pilots already. Iirc one Japanese pilot took down 11 Soviet aircraft in one day, making some record at the time.
But of course when August 1945 rolled around the situation for Japan was bleak. The most inexperienced soldiers would be stationed in Manchuria and the most experienced stationed at either the homeland or the Japanese islands in preparation for an American offensive. At this point in time hardly any food or ammo was getting to the soldiers in Manchuria. Without any armor or aircraft support this was an easy task for even the most incompetent armies to sweep Manchuria
@@user-pn3im5sm7k the ever incompetent japanese deserved to lose. Those who lived by the sword will die when their sword becomes rusty due to whatever reasons
@@johngriep5352 WHAT? No they didn't. They beat Russia in the Russo Sino War. The Japanese weren't scared of the Russians. They were TERRIFIED of the Americans and the atomic bomb. Homie, the US put Japan in an impossible situation where we were firebombing Tokyo, leveling entire CITIES with atomic bombs, and had them cut off from oil and resources. Then, when they did surrender, the US occupied Japan and pillaged it ANYWAY while stripping them of their culture, dignity, and values. Why do you think the elderly Japanese HATE Americans to this day and will refuse them service? And they have a right to hate Americans.
I think few japanses really understod what teh atmombombs where. It was qucik and extremly devastating but what did teh average japanses (military or civilian) know?@@johngriep5352
My great uncle used to talk about the screams of the Japanese during his time in the pacific. Didn't know they trained that and knew it would shock the enemy.
Yeah. until , like the Germans , felt the 6000 , or more artillery pieces , combined with it's mighty plethora of armoured vehicles cutting thru Japanese defences as a hot knife through butter .
@@JohnEglick-oz6cd Japanese forces were by this time depleted and probably under rationed and outta' gas. The real cream of this force had already been skimmed off for the Pacific War against the Allies. This force would be easy pickings for the well oiled and well supplied Soviet War Machine.
@@johnhaller7017 Yes...and most people are unaware that the Japanese had already lost 1.5 Million Troops by the time Japan attacked at Pearl Harbor!
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Don’t expect to see it acknowledged.
No fact should be allowed to diminish the glory of the hypergl0ri0us red army.
The Soviet Union declaring war on Japan was as big if not a bigger motivating factor for Japan's surrender as the A bomb. Though the Red Army smashing Japan's forces in Manchuria was a nasty surprise the Soviet invasion of south Sakhalin island followed by the invasion of the Kuril islands was a nastier and more threatening surprise since it brought Soviet forces within striking distance of Hokkaido. The last thing the Emperor wanted was Japan invaded by the Bolsheviks. Similar to the Germans when the situation was accepted as truly hopeless far better to surrender to the Americans than the Soviets.
1.) I don't think you understand that the USSR was war weary and had a HUGE depletion of manpower after Germany surrendered. It would be difficult for them to just redeploy against mainland Japan.
2.) Japan's surrender was 100% because of the atomic bomb. They had no means to protect against them and they worked A LOT better than when Americans firebombed Tokyo and killed tens of thousands.
3.) Dude, the USSR would still have to deploy and island hop. It'd be a problem.
4.) Hokkaido was split down the center with the northern half being Russian and southern Japanese. This happened after the Japanese defeated Russia in the Russo Sino war. So there was already a Russian presence on the island, just not a big one.
5.) Yeah. surrender to the Americans. Where they occupy your land, pillage, steal, murder, then ban your culture, heritage, and customs while forcing you to adopt "western sensibility". Far better, huh?
@@marishiten5944 No historian would agree with you that Japan's surrender was 100% due to the A bombs that's just not supported by the facts. After Little Boy was dropped on Hiroshima there was no reaction at all from the Japanese to the surprise and astonishment of the US political leadership who expected their new wonder weapon to cower the Japanese to surrender. Why should the Japanese be shocked that another city was ravaged by bombing after all of their major cities had already been decimated by B-29 bombing raids? The fact that secondary cities Hiroshima had Nagasaki were targeted tells you how devastating the US bombing campaign had been. There were no intact primary Japanese cities left to target with A bombs. That it took only one aircraft vs 400 to devastate a city was meaningless to the Japanese they'd already become desensitized by the US's massive bombing campaign. And Operation Meeting House the fire bombing of Tokyo Mar 9-10 '45 that you marginalize was the single most destructive bombing raid in human history. It obliterated 16 square miles of Tokyo and killed over 100K civilians, far more people than either of the A bombs initial death tolls. As for the Soviet invasion threat to Hokkaido it would have been a difficult amphibious campaign for them but the Japanese probably didn't know Soviet capabilities very well so they perceived it as a real threat. Also all available Japanese military resources were being sent south to reinforce Kyushu which is where they knew the Americans were planning to invade in their operation Downfall so Hokkaido was lightly defended Aug '45. Also the Soviets and Japanese both occupied Sakhalin island not Hokkaido as you mentioned. Your take on this part of WW2 history is not supported by the facts.
@@anthonycruciani939 By the time the atomic bombs were dropped , Japan was already defeated. It was only a matter of time before they would have surrendered. The US submarine blockade was starving the country by the day. US air power ran rampant over Japanese cities destroying one after the other. As you said correctly the firebombing raid on Tokyo in March was more destructive than the nukes. The Kwantung army by August was a shell of its former self, as all of its best equipment and men had been sent to the Pacific and had been annihilated.
The atomic bombs had a duel purpose: First - to warn the Russians the US could and would prevent them from advancing any further west in Europe. Second - to hasten the surrender of Japan, to prevent a potentially horrific invasion of the Japanese mainland.
Why a nasty surprise? Japanese forces stationed at Manchuria was weakened severely due to units going to southern area to fight the Americans and the British. They also were mostly consisted of reserves with no basic training while lacking even rifles.
Wrong answer! The bomb was a deterrent aimed at the soviets. You write such garbage - could have gotten it right with 2 sentences.
Best history documentary video ❤
Excellent documentary, War Stories! Thank you.
Great docu! Fantastic information unknown to me. Thank you!
Very interesting!!
Thanks this was interesting.
I've seen online Ukrop propagandists howling that this was an example of Ruskie perfidy, not bothering to find out that it was organised between the allies, that Stalin wasn't really bothered about taking part.
Ukraine was a major part of the Soviet Union so if it was perfidy they were all for it.
Soviet Union member , they all agreed
I love this channel
Where is the rest of the documentary ?
its battlefield s4/e3 The Forgotten Battle for Manchura czcams.com/video/LBuMDG2TvcY/video.html
The Soviet army was at its absolute peak. Japan surrendered to the US to avoid a Soviet invasion and to keep the Emperor.
Nailed it!
But if I were Japan, I would back talks to the Soviet Union to become a partner against the west so that I would still remain in power in terms of military.
@@4BobayBut if I were Japan, I would back talks to the Soviet Union to become a partner against the west so that I would still remain in power in terms of military.
@@kennethmorales5121 in 1945 the USSR (Stalin) wanted many territories in the Far East and Japan with a large military would not have been good for the Red Army.
@@4Bobay Not larger than the Soviets,
It was an informative and clearly explained historical coverage video. Thank you for sharing. Was not forgotten conflicts occurred before WW2.. both British and German supported technically the Japanese naval fleets before 1905 and prepared it for 1905 naval conflict against Russian naval fleets in the Far East. After WW1 .who donated legitimate coverage to Japan for establishing its colonialism bases in Toruk and Manchuria!? Whey Britain, France, and The USA donated those territories to the Japanese empire... these territories were not inside Britain, France, and the USA borders. Also, they weren't satellite vassals of them ? Before WW2, several internal Balkan region conflicts and beast Genocides occurred . So, WW2 disastrous occurred as summation and outcomes of Axis aggressions and alliance mistakes committed around the world after the WW1.
What internal Balkan conflicts and beast genatocides before WW2 did you mean specifically?
Is there a part 2 to this coming?
Great documentary but 75% of this wasn’t covering the actual conflict between Japan and the USSR but rather the cultural state or China and Japan leading up to the war. Still very interesting.
is there a part 2?
Japan: We have fighting spirit!
USSR: We have Stalin 2 tanks!!
Japan: 😮
America: You have no way to ship resources to Japan.
why is some of the scenes blocked? they weren't blocked in old uploads?
CZcams has been blocking 'gory' video, like dead bodies.
I remember in the original it showed dead bodies, and honestly, as bad as that looks, it's the true tragedy of war. and you only see a few seconds of it. best we don't forget
because its just them stealing an old episode of battlefield and taking credit,heres the actual full 2 hr episode from the 90s czcams.com/video/LBuMDG2TvcY/video.html
I really liked the narration lines why the Chinese who in their 4000 year history never waged an aggressive war being forced to fight 😂😂😂...
Now USA wants to prove that Chinese are war mongerors...
They are. They just go about it in proxy wars. Ever heard of the Korean war? Who do you think supplied North Korea? Are you going to tell me that they don't attack India and Tibet in a power struggle for territory? Are Mongols just not Chinese now and they didn't sail to Japan to conquer them? Are you going to tell me that they didn't attack Korea and Indonesia?
What planet are you from?
@@marishiten5944We are from the planet where USA and UK people value honesty and decency higher than greed and narcissism. This is all very strange to us.
where is part 2??!!!
Tehran, 1943? Roosevelt and Churchill? (15:45) Looks more like Truman, LOL !
10:35 Loool
it's actually mostly true, for the most part China has just been internally focused or defending itself from Northern steppe invaders. They could've easily overrun most of the world like Mongols of not for their philosophy
I'm about 32 minutes - the Japanese "defense strategy"
We were even able to stop and repel the glorious Red Army selectively in 45 with Tigers, Panthers, Stuks, 88 etc.
Don't know the numbers exactly, but at least 2000 (???) T34 + T34/85 are rolling towards the Japanese...
...and the Japanese don't have anything that penetrates the armor of a T34.
Winter is coming...⛄
Great documentary 👍 Brilliant! Just Brilliant 👍
Honda Suzuki!!
dont tell me that allies would beat soviets in 45 in 45 soviets were unbeatable
Fascinating account of an easily forgotten confrontation . I suppose one could consider the Vichy French Premier Pierre Laval as an executed WW2 leader along with Tojo .
Not Forgotten, But Not Tought in The West .. The West Calls it the Jewish Geno when 6mill Eliminated, But that not true, Anyone that wasn't White Christian was Eliminated, Like 40mill Russians, The Germans thought of them lower then jews .. An Gypsies.. We can go on here .. But you then would have compassion for Russia & China what they whent through, Because of America!! .Cant have that !! HAPPY. the end is here for America tho.. who knew it would be so fast 😂... send me a postcard..
Is not forgotten it just have been untold so the World remain in ignorance of Soviet victories.
I expected the U.S. military to come up with a better reporting name than "Frank" for the Nakajima KI 84.
The BLURRED OUT sections are Unnecessary and detract from the video!!
The Soviet Union has never gotten the respect it deserves for the incalculable sacrifice it made in WW2
It only took the Russians 4 years to advance the same distance you can drive in a day. Coincidentally the same amount of time the rest of the allies freed the rest of the world.
That's because it's a gangster government with slave mentality people.
30 million dead soldiers and civilians.
Doesn't deserve respect for the millions of it's civilians political opponents Stalin 😈 liquidated.
Categorically false. The evil marxists sacrificed a lot, and fought bravely
Soviet-Mongolian cavalry!
The Golden Horde rides again!
Why are the scenes blocked out??
Conspiracy
Montgomery was like Napoleon. He just fed british flesh to German bullets.
Woah
You mean you forgot...or never learned!
Japan wouldn't stand a chance had the Soviets then continued their assault on the country after the US bombed Hiroshima and Nagasaki. It definitely was checkmate.
The bombs were a deterrent aimed at the soviets - and it worked.
Forgotten implies first knowing,not quite what you clickbait teased.
He wasnt targeting ignorants i guess.
I do find it a little difficult to believe Russians attack on Japan in 1945 was a result of a desire to aid its allies rarter than a stark illustration of Russian perfidy, an attempt to extend both territorially and its influence. To argue to the contrary would in my personal opinion the height of naievity. Indeed these conquests remain as prize s. to date.
Do u know da way?
It was a Brilliant operation and one of the best and most successful of WW2 it was only 1.5 to 1 but usually the attacking force must outnumber the defensive force by at least 3 to 1, the USSR liberated Manchuria handed it over to the Chinese n left this is indeed Liberation
They had no interest in Asia because it was under developed and had no resources. Their main focus was controlling their power in Europe
Yeah. Idt the Kremlin has too much interest in Kamchatka or Vladivostok. They sold Alaska to us, as it was too remote for them.
@@MagicButterz they clearly had enough interest to liberate the Chinese.
Well they got lots of frozen land as it is, so it was good for them n good for the US
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They had enough interest to murder about half of all Japanese prisoners they took.
They can always take pride in that
Whereis part 2 ?
Nobody...❤❤❤...!!!!
“Unfortunate Russo-Finnish war” that is one way to put it.
Oh i remember....the glory....supreme leader Stalin.....oh the old days but what can you do, just keep breathing....it's free
I'll dare to say it as a Japanese: Japan lost to the United States, considering that two atomic bombs were dropped. However, it's fortunate that the opponent we lost to was the U.S. If it had been the Soviet Union, Japan might have become a communist country, and thinking about being called "comrade" or something like that, I truly think it's a good thing we lost to America.
Chinese people at the United Nations may refer to Japan as a defeated nation, but I don't want to hear that from them. Even if Japan hadn't invaded, China would have eventually self-destructed and fallen apart.
forgotten by whom ?
We almost drop a 3rd one 😂
Why is that funny? Americans murdered THOUSANDS of Japanese civilians in order to force capitulation by dropping atom bombs and starting fires in Tokyo. Funny, didn't we fight Germany because they did that to France? Oh, it's okay if WE do it, but not okay if THEY do it.
it wasn't until the soviet union invaded Manchuria did the Japanese know the war effort was futile ...it wasnt the A bombs that forced there hand as we are taught but the shock of the red army and its largest land force in the world that was the catalyst for Japanese capitulation
True!
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During those days I was rooting for Japan but now no more,only money can change my mind pay me now
What armour did the Japanese have ? Nothing !
10:45 when the narrator says the Chinese are our ally and never wage aggressive war...within a few years if that statement they would be shooting at U.S. soldiers in Korea. edit: you gotta wonder if the soviets invading Manchria gave Mao and communism an extra advantage in controlling China. If so This cpl of weeks had huge implications that can still be felt today
Stalin was more or less an opportunistic entrepreneur in the most congenial sense of the term.
@justinbarboza9712 - Go back and read some history…..Chiang Kai-Shek was in power before Mao, who took over in 1949..
they also say that Stalin was successful in staying out of WWII prior to Barbarossa, which I'd say is wildly inaccurate given Poland, Baltic States, and Finland: they were an aggressor just as much as Germany.
@@totensiebushthose are russian empire land, there is no such baltic states and finland for 300 years, thanks to lenin, they got their independence
poland was attacking ussr when ussr was still in transition
@@voraciousreader3341Mao and Chiang Kai shek joined a coalition government. Russia armed Mao and Mao kept alot of Japanese weapons...they had different strong points in China and US came to realization we had to arm CHIANG all to late by then Mao had upper hand in civil war and ussr duplicity helped in that. Maybe instead of attacking others, you should do more reading
Excellent military hardware? Tanks that can be knocked out by a .50 caliber machine gun? Even the Type 95 tank...a 'medium' tank, is kind of feeble, compared even to early T-34s.
Also, even a fully equipped Hapanese division is light on artillery...something the Red Army had aplenty. The Japanese were completely outclassed in their armor, both quality as well as quantity.
Soviet attacked Japan in the Manchuria only after the second atomic bomb exploded. Stalin knew that Japan would surrender very soon. He had to move his army into Manchuria quickly to take up the power vacuum after Japan surrendered. It was a land grasping act, not an effort to end the war. This point has to be clarified. Later the Soviet helped the Chinese Communists establishing basis in Manchuria with captured Japanese weapons. That gave the communists enough power to start a full scaled Chinese civil war.
wrong, Russia had started the invasion before the first bomb had even been dropped. Japan convened an emergency meeting between the Shogunate and Emperor about the disastrous defeat of their forces in Manchuria and didn't even learn about the second bomb until it was already underway. The ultimate surrender of Japan which is actually corroborated by many Japanese historians was the Soviet invasion and not the atomic bombs.
You simple lie because Stalin attacked Japan on direct demand of USA.
@@Muscovy7ofc japan like German prefer us occupation than Soviet and that understandable..
@@daisho4505 for opposite reasons. The Soviets would’ve annexed Hokkaido. The Germans just didn’t want to deal with the justified retribution of people they terrorized.
Why are you making things up? USSR didn't "move in" its military nor was there any "vacuum", instead they fought a huge battle against a huge Japanese military force! Also the USSR didn't grab any land but left it for the Chinese of which majority were the communist faction!
27:47 Your neck injuries aren't services related.
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anyone looking for the rest of this episode of Battlefield se/e3 czcams.com/video/LBuMDG2TvcY/video.html
Stalin was a very smart individual
In 1945, the majority of Japanese army in Manchuria have been sent to Pacific fighting Americans. Many army units only have a name and few personal.
That's why Soviet Union could sweep Japanese so quickly.
Truman once said: " If I knew the nuclear bomb is so powerful, I won't let that bear out". 😅
They weren't Manchuria and China forces were majority of japan army and their HQ calculated with them for defense of home islands.
The legendary Imperialist/ Fascist Japanese , with their tenacity was only for the Pacific islands . In Manchuria , the onslaught of the mighty Soviet military , and it's humongous armoured might , cut through Japanese defenses like a hot knife thru butter . And , many Japanese through up their hands , landing in Siberian Gulags in the Soviet Union .
Uh, no? If you knew anything about Japanese culture, especially in the military back then is that they did NOT surrender willingly. They had to be caught unaware in order to be a POW. That's why the Japanese didn't really take a ton of POW's in general. They saw it as dishonorable and would just kill soldiers trying to surrender.
@@marishiten5944 Yes , part of their code of the Samurai is Bushido , which is to die for the emperor ,vAnd glory . To surrender was to die a 1000 deaths as to die in battle 1death . But , by the end of 1944 , early 1945:in the Phillipines , and Okinawa the Imperialist/ Fascist Japanese were seeing the futility of fighting,and started to throw up their hands in surrender ! 10,000 Japanese troops were surrendering on the bloody "Battle Of Okinawa" !
@@marishiten5944 The Imperialist) Fascist Japanese fought bloody , tenaciously committing Sepaku / Hari Kari , and Banzai charges in the early part of the PTOv,vbut , later as the war was getting costlier ,vAnd it's palpable futility ,vJaoanese troops were surrendering .
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You are not telling the real truth of the war between Russia and Japan and why America drop the Atom bomb, Socialist vs Capitalism. From Australia 🦘
What? Japan was an Imperial that time. There was nothing "capitalist" about them.
This is why no one takes Australians seriously. Cowards and stupid.
This lost me when he said Stalin was a great military leader he sent his people to die by the millions ge was a bloodthirsty evil dictator
Exactly, Stalin started to win when he let his generals run it. He was only in the way.
@leejenkins7184 yeah the fact that he killed anyone opposing him meant killing off hia best generals... his reason for winning stalingrad was throwing people into a grinder, with the mindset eventually they'll stop them or run them out of ammo
He led the nation to victory.
@waltonsmith7210 doesn't matter he only won bc he threw his people by the millions to thier death... when your strategy is to throw people into the line of fire to try and run the Germans out of ammo you are NOT a great military leader point blank period
It feels so uncomfortable to ever perceive the Soviets as the "good guys".
Maybe because you are US citizen or European. It's not uncomfortable for Asians, African, or Latin American. After all, it's not Soviet who stage coup, trigger genocide, overthrow democratically elected leaders, or invade some countries to extract their natural resources.
THERE WERE NO GOOD GUY JUST HAT THE JAPANESE ADD GERMANS WERE WORST
Hollywood propaganda effect
They weren't. Stalin was a MONSTER. They were a necessary evil to ensure the status quo. That's it.
We want manchuria be back to our own people ! Japanese people helped us . The great manchuria should be independent country and with our alliance japan.
Go ask Beijing real nice and they might let you have it.
Not Forgotten, But Not Tought in America... You Have American History... Thats Actually NOT history 😂.. Its American history.. Thats just a joke 😂
Why was this operation necessary when the Japanese were about to give up after Aug 6th.
Japan would've have left on their own anyway.
The Russians wanted to do what Russians do.
They let almost half of all Japanese prisoners they took die in POW camps.
The 65,000 taken back to Russia died to the man, while tens of thousands died in china.
Where did you read your history?? You COULD NOT be more wrong! The atomic bombs were dropped because of the predicted American deaths of one million soldiers to invade and conquer the mainland. The Marines had suffered terrible casualties nowhere near 1 million dead at Iwo Jima and Okinawa, and President Truman and everybody else involved were not prepared to lose that many men. Prime Minister-but really dictator-Tojo had no intention of surrendering, so whatever you thought about August 6 is wrong. The Emperor didn’t intervene after the first atomic bomb, but did after the second, and insisted that Tojo accept the Allied terms of surrender. Tojo was forced to back down, and the Emperor made a recording which was to be broadcast on August 14, 1945, but a group of 1000 Imperial Army officers and soldiers committed an unprecedented invasion of the Palace grounds to find and destroy the recording because they thought surrender was unacceptable, regardless of the terms. They were effectively dealt with, and the broadcast went ahead. The fact that 2 devastating bombs had to be dropped, in addition to the tons of incendiary bombs which had been dropped prior to that is more than enough evidence to tell you that *THE JAPANESE MILITARY AND PEOPLE HAD NO INTENTION OF SURRENDERING TO THE ALLIES.*
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Am talking the invasion of Manchuria by the Soviets. What am saying is Japan was already done.
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I subscribed to the Soviet’s won the war theory for a while. As I become more read on the subject I know America really was instrumental. The Allies may have won or may not have but once America came
In the fight it was over. The Axis were never going to win. And Japan surrendered because of American technology. The USSR was depleted at that point and were kinda toothless.
You really mean more brainwashed. How I despise this American "we won the war" nonsense. What the American excelled at was kill millions of civilians. The Soviets were so toothless that it was there attack on Japan that caused Japan to surrender. Dropping the two A bombs was just an exercise in power by that criminal Truman
One of the silliest remarks regarding the war that I’ve had the misfortune to read.
@@Albert-Arthur-Wison225 you can read?
Japan could have never outfought 1945 Soviet Union
Especially on land
@@manuelmontoya9123 I understand that. They couldn’t have outfought us either. But I believe the bomb made them surrender. That’s why they signed the treaty on the USS Missouri and not the Moscow.
European colonists speaking out against Japanese occupation, ah the irony 😁
The hypocrisy never stops in the US of A. It's our main export.
I forgot what Got us here, the subtle wording and grazing over to avoid important subject. Add pandering to maniacal Jewish Bolshevik fiend for a properly discreetly written piece of propaganda.
That is why North Korea exists today and Maoist China. Damn! It was STUPID to allow the Soviets into Northeast Asia!
U could also argue if Japan didn't colonize Korea, Korea would not have been split and if they didn't invade China the KMT would of kept in power.
It's not forgotten. The Soviets gunned down Japanese civilians in Manchuria as they were trying to get to transport ships to get them to Hokkaido. No shocking, considering that Soviets weren't against war crimes. The USSR was up there and even surpassed Germany.
On top of that, the Russians were pretty bitter about being curb stomped in the Russo Sino War and booted out of Hokkaido.
what the Soviets was doing was revenge. considering they heard stories on how brutal the Japanese forces are towards civilians and Pows. In fact, way worse than Nazis. after unleashing terrible vengeance on Germans, they decide to do that to the Japanese too.
Funny how Stalin whined and complained about the Americans and British taking too long to open a front in the west and yet he refused to open a front in the east 🤔
Lmao, they try to make the T34 sound invincible when it was one of the worst tanks of WW2.
It was a game changer in 1941 and 42
With the later models the t34-85 it was actually a good all around tank and was really good when used in high numbers
You still see t34s used all over the world, no other tank has a service life like the t34
Was watching that show on armoured warfare on the history channel and they were showing those t34s in Korea vs US tanks and one of those vets said themselves
They weren’t scared of the Koreans in the tanks, they were scared of the t34s
The 85mm gun was enough to take on anything on the battlefield
Source: your mothers deep deep dry bushes
😂I’ve literally n e v e r read such a preposterous remark posted about the T-34. Ever.
The T34 was a major game changer. It was produced in mass numbers by the amount of steel given to Soviets from US
@@shwnbur77 nah that’s overkill
The lend lease sent a bunch of stuff but no steel from America
Equipment yes, food yes and other stuff but not steel
In fact no raw materials were supplied other than fuel and petroleum products
Soviets on the other hand did supply raw materials such as manganese ore chrome ore wood and gold and platinum
It wasn’t invincible and it wasn’t the worst.
If only Japan attacked the USSR, then the USSR will be finished. Then they will not be stab in the back at the end of the war.
It already happen when zhukov destroyed the japanese at khalkin goal,after that japanese dont want already to attack ussr
Stalin the Mass Murder!
Where is the rest of the story?