The Crucial Mistake Players Make on the Break
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- čas přidán 15. 05. 2024
- If you're breaking, it's most important to hit the center of the cue ball. This is one key component of generating speed and action on the rack. If you're hitting with too much power, you will have inaccuracies and hit the cue ball off-center. This will prevent the cue from transferring all the energy to the cue ball. The cue ball will not only have less energy but also deflect off the line, due to the applied side spin. You won't hit the first ball on the rack dead-on. This will once again fail to transfer 100% of the energy to the rack. Therefore, a less powerful attempt can make you more accurate, and at the same time, generate more energy at the rack.
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I tried this yesterday and my breaks were a lot better. Great advice and video.
I had some bad habits in my stroke a few years ago. I slowed my speed to 50 percent and concentrated on my stroke and a good follow through technique. Took 15 min. of practice to get it down. It's like a golf swing. Real smooth. I shoot better and more accurate now. All my strokes are well controlled at what ever speed I shoot.
When I am practicing breaking I always pattern rack the exact same way. That way I know what ball went where every time.
I also frequently scuff my break cue tip, the forces involved really compact it.
Also, make sure whoever racks the balls is pushing them forward in the triangle so they’re nice and tight, otherwise you won’t get a decent, consistent break because the power will be absorbed and the balls won’t spread. It’s a cheeky tactic that people could use when playing casually in bars
I took some lessons from a man ranked in the top 100 Fargo ratings in the US (Brad Weast 735) and he taught me that the break shot is unlike any other shot in pool, that it's not just a hard power stroke. That it's more like a golf swing or bowling delivery, several body parts work together in coordination to deliver a successful hit.
A slow controlled stand, loose relaxed wrist, elbow drop, low aim to compensate for the stand and elbow drop , and a few other elements will produce a solid break with a good "pop" that sits the cue ball right in the middle of the table.
The video on the pop break is already planned. You've summarzied many points that I will cover with your comment already. Good information!
@@Sharivari Can't wait for the video because I definitely need to get more consistent with mine!
Great video and information/demonstration/explanations. Thank you =]
I learned to be steady with a solid break, but I never actually watched where the cue went…but I’m about to start watching for that now! I probably can reduce strength like you point out, as long as I focus on hitting center every time
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In my league, your opponent racks for you and there's no template, so you rarely get a tight rack. I've found the best results when I hit a 60% cut break (8, 9, or 10-ball) and I tend to make a ball and get a good spread even when it's a bad rack.
Are you allowed to check the rack in your league? If not, that league sucks lol.
I'm always breaking from the left side of the table. After watching this video, I'm going to start breaking from the center again and see if I can improve my break shots. Thanks for sharing!
You got this!
I've always found the harder you stroke the easier it is to MISS.
I've also found out this recently and I even miss cue and ruined my tip. So my friend said it's all about the timing and just stroke slower to get a better break
This is true with most shots unless you have perfect precision. Pockets have a lot more tolerance with slower speed.
Its thing called pocket speed, the harder u hit the easier pockets spit balls out
@@joulupukki1607 seen that happen Saturday.
If you are missing on a break because of how hard you are stroking, you need to work on basic fundamentals of pool lol. That really just means your stroke needs work. I don't even know how to miss the cue ball. I don't think I've even seen that lol. You sound like a complete beginner.
I agree with all these except I always put the one ball in front 😅 every rotation style game has it in front and I've seen balls break in half before. If one of thems gonna break I'd rather know which one is most likely to break is my reasoning
excellent ball spread
I watched this 2 days ago and have been trying it in an 8 ball rack, I took your advice and hit with less power and I'm having the balls disperse much, much better, although I have not sunk any on the break this way. thanks
Awesome. Try to move the cue ball further to the either side.
I will do that.. thanks@@Sharivari
One of my friends said it's all about the timing to get a good break and my other friend told me to go more slowly to get a better break and I've been following this advice and it's actually been helping. Because when I stroke faster for a good break I usually hit the rack bad and I tend to miscue and ruin my break cue tip
If you're miscueing on the break, you're not even getting close to the center of the cueball. Definitely good advice to settle down a bit.
@@Strype13 yeah
I never knew standing up on the break was a problem so that's how I started breaking from the beginning. I line up first diamond from the left to the head ball diagonally and give it all I've got. Sometimes a dry break, sometimes 3 balls go in. If it's not working for me, I shift to the right an inch or two on the lineup still aiming at the head ball. If it works better there, I stick with it.
yep nailed it
Medium speed with follow through works best for me, especially in 9 ball. In 9 I break medium from the center, ninety percent of the time I make the wing ball in the corner, and the cue ball stays in the center of the table.
Thanks dude. These are giod tips i can use to improve my 8 ball pool game
even truer for 9 ball, thank you for explaining break position for 9
Not everyone has nor plays on a professional tabel. Based on cloth quality and where the balls sit during the rack (falling away), it can determine the "muscle" one must use in order to break.
What do you think about those who, in 8-ball, break from the side and aiming to hit the a side of the triangle?
I usually see people put the cue ball quite far back from line and often very close to a side, then aiming to hit a side of the triangle rather than the front (at least on the online pool game I play).
It seems like doing that helps in potting balls of the same kind vs the normal way where you may end up potting a solid and stripped ball.
nice video Corey Duel have video no body movement break
Just watched this today. Went to my local spot and took maybe 20% off my. Break power, and it worked. 1st rack I got 2 balls in and a great spread. 2nd rack no balls in but another great spread. Both racks I got my cueball to stay in the center. Imma pass this tip on
Also been trying to give Lil'Chris' pop break a try, and for keeping the cue ball in the center is working well. These 2 things combined should make my break way better.
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Hi! First off, I love watching your videos! Thank you! Secondly, I was just wondering in your 9 ball rack, why is the 9 ball lined up with the second diamond? I've always thought the 1 ball should be at position.
Thank you! Well, there are many different break rules in the game of 9 Ball. A couple of years ago many big promoters changed the way the balls are racked, by moving the nine instead of the one on the spot. The goal was to make the break more difficult. Depending on the country, league or tournament you're playing you will find many different rulesets: (Break box, three point rule, rack placement, sometimes even ball placement within the rack).
@Sharivari Oh, that's really interesting, I never knew! Thanks :D
Omg. This is different just for the sake of being different. No, no, no!
The 1 goes on the spot. PERIOD.
True enough speed to control break but still great spread. Not bashing or too light either. Half tip below center.
I hit as hard as I can. Dead center to dead center. Usually make a few and have no issues like you mentioned. But I get what you are saying. Breaking softer worked for my wife. When she was trying to break as hard as she could, she had a lot of issues. When she went a little softer and focused on stroke and aim, she got better.
Thanks for the advice. This is a sort of shot I need to work on, like dropping my elbow early, and raising my closed bridge hand simultaneously, resulting in a top miss cue. And sometimes causing my break cue to slip on my hand. Oh raising my feet slightly during a power break. I’ll try to mend this mistake soon.
can u give break pattern to make break more consitently? like one ball always pocketed
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I agree with all this.
EXCEPT for 1 point. The primary reason for standing up isn't followthrough. Extra length on the followthrough might be a biproduct of what happens when you stand, but it's not the reason for it. more followthrough doesn't inherently mean more speed (cause it's timing dependent) as if what happens to your cuetip AFTER making contact with the cueball makes any difference. Humans are not designed to create dynamic, high speed forward motion with an isolated shoulder and elbow. Standing up allows for more mobility, clearance, leverage, and most importantly EFFICIENCY of movement. The more efficient you move, the less effort you need to strike the cueball with speed. Meanwhile, you need much more muscular contraction to swing the cue at the same speed while staying down. More effort = less accuracy. So theres a balance between these things as counterintuitive as it sounds.
So YES, hit the ball softer for accuracy- but when the break REQUIRES more speed (regardless of where you place the cueball), staying down is not a great option unless you have a perfect stroke. It's a tradeoff, but worth it i you know how to move.
Also, breaking with a template vs triangle is a huge reason to change speeds. So is asking what the GOAL of the break is. If you're playing 10 ball and need the 1 ball to come uptable more, a pop break with speed helps. If you need the 2nd row balls lower- speed helps. It's all about the goal. But yes, generally, don't put 100% into the break. 💪👊🧠
I agree with your statement on follow through. I was thinking about explaining it in detail, but on some things I don't want to confuse or scare people with too detailed information. But that's exactly why the comment section is a great place. Good points!
You can always buy a replacement 8,9, or 10 ball but never a replacement 1 ball online. I don’t understand why and when I brought it up with Predator they had no answers.
also for oyu hobby pool players. this makes it so you need an extra break cue even less. this works fine with a regular cue you are using to play anyway
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I started breaking with a hand bridge on table and then switched to off the rail. Cue ~halfway or little more between short rail and dot. Hand On top of rail making V, cue on table. Not extremely fast break but long smooth stroke
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hard and accuracte > accurate > hard. the hardest you can hit whil maintaining precision is the best. also the white jumping off the table is an accuracy issue. if you are precise it will jump up mostlly but still land at the middle of the table
Exactly. Video on the pop break is coming soon!
You hit the side of the pack!
So, when I watch Ultimate Pool for instance (reds and yellows) the commentators talk about the break going straight up and down the table, and a lot of players make the cue ball track all the way back to the short rail they're breaking from. Does it matter if you squat the rock in the middle of the table, or if it comes back all the way to the short rail and back out to center table? I'm just curious why different break styles seem to be desired for what almost feels like the same game.
Ultimate Pool is a bit different from American Pool. Since you have way more space on the 9ft pool table, and a different cue ball (larger, heavier), the majority of players try to park the cue ball at the center of the table without bringing the cue ball back to the short rail. The best example of this is shown at the beginning of this lesson: czcams.com/video/8aQrNTP_vfw/video.html
@@Sharivari Thanks for giving me a bit more education on the differences. Very much appreciated. I'm still working on fine tuning my breaking style, so this helped a good bit.
When you are able to break from the side when the 9 is on the spot, I put a little draw and a little outside, hitting the 1 square. I make the wing ball and 3 other balls race to the same corner every time! I really see no point in racking the 9 on the spot if not breaking from the box.
ooooooooooooooooooooooof! that first break injured my soul!!!!!!!!!!! lololololololololol
i am guilty, i try to put all my arm strength into a fast break with not so consistent results. i will try this in league tonight and hope i don't lose any more matches like i have been in the past 11 weeks :P
But what can you say with Bustamante's powerful break?
I see you have a dart board! Any good at that?
Used to be as a teenager. You play?
What tip do you use in your game?
KAMUI Brown Medium on my playing cue, and KAMUI Sai on my break cue.
I break really hard. Have been told it sounds like a gun. I say it is the cue ball breaking the sound barrier. Personally, I stand taller when I break. First, I find my line. I then find my contact spot on the cue ball. Put all of my concentration into that contact spot. Paying attention to form I give it hell. I hit a little bit of top english on the ball dead center of the rack and the cue ball drives through after the initial hit. It works well for me, so say what you want.
Try it on a club table with old cloth, dirty balls, and no magic rack... without power the balls will barely split at all, they'll stay at one end of the table, all bunched up and covering each other.
All great points but I'm coming out of my shoes on every break and I'm not going to stop.
So basically dont swing harder than you can control?
That's the key message. Will do another video on the proper technique and cue balls reaction if you're going for the hard pop break.
@sharivari could I get up with you and discuss something I've discovered with breaking, and see what your opinion on it is.
Would have loved to see that first break if you hit first ball head on instead of the second ball off the side.....:)
Should have shown that, dammit.
Just break from a standing position so you get the additional power and you dont have to worry about jumping up.
Even Jeff De Luna stroked fast at first then he went closer to the cue tip by stroking slower which got him that amazing break for a 9 ball rack. So it truly is about the right timing. czcams.com/users/shortscjUs3YTxmqg?si=K7mWeqzp7Kt3IP6H
jeffs break isnt controlled check corey deuel for more info.
Big reason people don't use one ball in front. Especially when raking for other players. Is that its a bright colored ball easy for people to see
I have no clue how to play this game but it looks interesting, lol.
Haha, it really is :D
But if you put a lot of glue on the chalk on your head, you can break insanity hard without the chalk falling off your head 😂😂😂😂
Good tip with the chalk btw 👌
you almost made a hole on the wall like Florian lol
What I find ironic that many tell people to use a light stick because it will accelerate faster. Then say hit it 50-70% speed. Completely negating the argument to use a light stick in the first place. I on the other hand have less skilled players start with a heavier break stick at 50% speed and ACTUALLY aim when they break. Somehow I am the break whisperer. 50 years ago everyone used heavy breakers. If you paid attention in school you know that a good break is merely transferring the kinetic energy from stick to cue ball to rack. It has nothing to do with timing or any of the other nonsense just maximally transferring the energy from one object to another.
Timing absolutely matters if you're using your body to transfer energy into the rack, which many players do. It takes practice but is more effective than just shoving the cue into the cue ball and actually takes less effort. If you stand at a slight angle to the table and use hip rotation as your source of power, you can get a very good break by just using your arm to guide the cue.
@@procrastinator6902 Maximally transferring energy is the key. How long were people jumping in the air believing that it adds power? I get it people "feel" many things about how balls behave on a table and damn be the laws of physics. The laws of physics simply don't support anything other than the transition of kinetic energy from object to object. I understand there are many small chained movements that come together into of what people call "timing" but I have seen to many good breaks that don't follow prescription.
@@GarrethandPipa I'm not sure that it's so much the jump itself that was meant to add the power, but the necessity of doing so to maintain balance to get as upright as possible. Which WILL add power because your arm acts like a lever and the straighter you stand, the longer that lever is and provides more power. The timing of movement when using it is essential. The body can never move as fast the arm, so that's where timing comes in. The stand and hip rotation has to occur before the arm begins to move for it to be effective at delivering power to the hit. That's what I meant about timing being important.
Is that were the 9 ball rack is suppose to be, Two balls ahead of the dot? I thought every game the head ball goes in the dot!
Well, there are many different break rules in the game of 9 Ball. A couple of years ago many big promoters changed the way the balls are racked, by moving the nine instead of the one on the spot. The goal was to make the break more difficult. Depending on the country, league or tournament you're playing you will find many different rulesets: (Break box, three point rule, rack placement, sometimes even ball placement within the rack).
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I don't like this. I never shot the ball off the table breaking hard. And the cue is in the wrong spot.
I sink at least 1 most of the time
the 1st brake shot did not hit the head ball and is a foul in some 8ball games
You are mistaken sir if you believe a longer follow through in and of itself will generate more power for the simple fact that when you hit the ball it comes off of the cue tip immediately and a longer follow through will not extend the time of contact. This has been proven by the use of super high speed videos. 😎
While your statement is correct, unfortunately the conclusion isn't. Watch this video and let me know what you think: czcams.com/video/VYjZp0fqbQM/video.htmlsi=BnOHq5FjNOh1ddkV
And I suppose you also believe that a follow through on a golf shot is unnecessary. You know, because the struck golf ball immediately left the club face……..
Level up the difficulty of balancing the chalk on your head by being bald.
Illegal brake on 5:50
Maybe in your league. I assume you're using the three point rule? This rule isn't used very often, not even in professional events anymore.
You hit the rack from the side. That's why the ball went off the table.
Yes indeed. And I hit the side of the rack because I used too much power and added unintentional right spin, which made the cue ball deflect to the left.
But this 9ball break was illegal, wasn't it? 1 ball crossed the line and 1 ball went in,
Depends on the rules you're using.
This is not how you should break, halfway from the lime to the cushion and put it between your fingers with your palm down, even with max power you will struggle to not hit it straight
Most important thing in a break is to make the 8 ball. That requires spin spin, we lose a lot of power with that spin so a harder hit is a must.
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You aren’t supposed to break hard? Clearly you’ve never seen the Color of Money.
Probably because with new equipment avaible nowadays you don't need power that much anymore, just precision
It was a joke. Corey Duel yield consistent results without smashing the rack.
If you’re playing, 8-ball, on a bar box, you never break from anywhere in the ‘D’ ring.
Place the cue ball as the demonstration @5:42. Use running English, with a firm, (not hard) stroke. The cue ball hits two rails, comes behind the 8-ball, making it in the opposite side pocket. I’ve done it up to 3 times-in-a-row, several times, over the years.
I was president of our local league for 15 years. I was an instructor for 10. I helped organize and run all 6 State tournaments, in WV.
The template racks make it easier to break at low speeds. Most tournaments I play use a regular rack which is harder to get all balls tight.
you used right english and hit the left side of the 1 ball. of course you are going off the table. for more info on controlled break check out corey deuels work, but we all disagree with this. ask johnny archer let use in a fast 'controlled' break.
2:13 but also... not sure the last time my cue jumped of the table. So what's the main point of this vid? Don't hit it hard?