Gail Dines
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- čas přidán 20. 01. 2015
- During her visit to Australia for the 2011 Sydney Writers' Festival, academic, activist and social critic Dr Gail Dines stirred strong debate with her radical feminist position. Particularly controversial is her critique of the pervasive influence pornography wields over the mainstream of contemporary media culture, as articulated in her book Pornland: How Porn has Hijacked our Sexuality. Following a passionate discussion on ABC TV’s Q&A program, Dines speaks with writer and fellow feminist Monica Dux.
Dines opens by expressing her astonishment at the ease of access to major media outlets in Australia compared to larger countries, where some have predicted her book wouldn’t be read by anyone other than academics. She explains her views on porn’s relationship with popular culture, beginning by tracing the history of its development and following the movement of creative talent between porn and the mainstream. (Later, she adds in response to an audience question that, at its core, our fetishisation of female purity has strongly contributed to the rise of porn.)
Dines goes on to say that she “can actually tell, when I’m watching a movie or something, just how much the guy who created it is into porn.”
Briefly pondering a link with Jim Henson, Dux asks Dines to explain what she often refers to as gonzo porn, the primary target of her critique. Dines unflinchingly describes the violent, debasing acts commonly seen in the genre, including ‘ATM’.
An avid researcher, Dines shares a story from her encounter with ‘Real Dolls’, an unfortunate source of otherwise scarcely found tenderness in porn. She describes interviewing convicted paedophiles and the ‘pseudo child porn’ which they say led them to their transgressions. She also expresses her disappointment with the failure of “left-wing men” to rail against the inequality and violence of pornography, despite their ardent opposition to many other exploitative capitalist institutions.
As for the argument that porn acts as a kind of catharsis, satisfying and thus managing perverse desire and fantasy, Dines maintains it’s not fantasy, it’s real. A more legitimate fantasy, she continues, would take the form of a more positive, inclusive and generous sexual culture.
Dux articulates her difficulty in believing that so many men prefer graphic gonzo films. The desire for depictions of degrading sex is not innate, Dines agrees, but is results from how the screen manipulates male sexual desire.
On the the West’s apparent love affair with “death-loving sexuality”, Dines doesn’t advocate banning pornography but holding the indsutry to account. Yet she also confesses: “As a radical, I don’t believe that industries within capitalism can be changed… Certain industries are too rotten to be salvaged. Slavery was one of them… same with pornography. It’s too rotten to the core, it’s too corrupt and it can’t be changed.” She adds that “we have to figure out what authentic sexuality looks like outside of a corporate, capitalist, industrialised, generic, roboticised imagery.”
Dines concludes by noting that as an educator, radical feminism continues to awaken and inspire a new generation of women in ways that other sub-types such as liberal feminism cannot.
Dr Gail Dines was in Australia as a guest of the Wheeler Centre and Sydney Writers' Festival.
just like a chain smoker who doesn't want to hear that smoking causes cancer, a porn consumer wouldn't like to listen to Gail Dines at all. It is good that somebody is spreading awareness about harmful effects of porn. thank u Gail Dines.
So what terminal illness can you get from watching porn like with cigarettes?
@@mgtowchampion7961 oh you're here as well... This hater has been following Gina's content and spread hate comment
@@manjitkapri1816 Missile Envy culture - read Dr. Helen Caldicott. It's just Freudian ejaculation addiction as modern civilization - not much different that chimpanzees.
Yessir, sure helped me
@@mgtowchampion7961 maybe not a terminal physical illness, but it destroys your humanity. You will not see people the same way anymore, they will all look like objects for your own manipulation. You will lose your empathy. And you support a predatory industry that destroys the lives of all involved.
Dines is a fucking grenade of awesomeness: this woman kicks ass and takes names.
World needs more people like her.
A study has shown porn makes men stupid. It clearly does.
its so weird how offended men get when you say anything negative about porn. they wouldn't even defend their mother like that. they take it so personally. so aggressive and pathetic.
Please dont lump all men in the same basket.
I fully support Gail
All men think they are not all men @@Outdoorcookwarereviews
not exclusive to men, lots of weirdly defensive women who justify porn as well. At the end of the day i'm glad more and more people are taking a stand against porn, especially nowadays.
I understand this is a "not all men" comment but there will never be a need to have these type of comments with the proper clarification, because there are genuine people out there who generalise all/majority men when there is a relatively sizeable amount of men neutral/against porn.
She’s great. It is concerning how many of the same people who criticise the messages in Hollywood films think porn is outside the realm of criticism. As well as many who will criticise the dark side of many work industries but somehow pointing out the harms of porn on its workers is untouchable. People masturbated for millennia without access to porn videos, why do we even need it? We don’t.
THANK YOU!!
Hahahaaaaa "elephant in the room" because he doesn't understand the difference between abusing women and sexual liberation. That was classic.
That was so cringy lol. And then the "gave you heard of him?" Hey buddy, you're at a talk about the BOOK SHE WROTE ON PORN
The minute a man starts talking about "sexual purity" or "women being shamed for their sexuality" I switch off lol. It's ALWAYS him saying "I think women should be public property not private property". His motivation is maintaining sexual access to women NOT women's sexual liberation. Hence why he LOVES porn and prostitution (despite these disregarding consent, respect and thus sexual freedom) and will viciously defend them under the guise of supporting women's sexuality. It's never actually about women, it's always about him if it's a man saying it.
@@zigzaglychee7324 thank youuu that is so true and well explained
The guy basically argues that we should look more into the direction of societal/cultural constructs, but used that in a way to diminish male accountability and direct the blame onto more general social things external to the porn industry. But Gail actually talks about the ways the porn industry taps directly into social constructs about masculinity to sort of groom young boys into becoming habitual porn watchers at 26:22 (and I think somewhere else she mentions it too but I forgot the time)... I found it so stupid of that guy to act like it was something Gail had overlooked. Sure she had talked about the role of social constructs, just not in the way this guy liked to hear it.
If anyone is interested in the article she mentioned at the end, It's a chapter (Feminism: an agenda) from a book called "Letters from a war zone" by Andrea Dworkin
thank you!
Still fresh and radical
Every single woman needs to make a stand. They should LEAVE every relationship the second she is aware that her partner or boyfriend consumes any kind of porn. Men only learn via consequences - the consequences should be - no real women, until they stop porn. This is why I'm celibate by choice. I don't want men around me, who have this sh** in their minds.
Agreed sister. I’ve been intentionally celibate for two years. Left my last partner as I started to wake up to the porn sick culture we live in- he didn’t want to admit the flaws in pornography. I am happier then I’ve been in over a decade choosing myself, I’m turning thirty in February. All hail Gail Dines!
Good on you ladies! You deserve way better than a man treating you like an object. Don't settle. There are men out there who are beginning to reject and want to be free from porn addiction. They've realized how bad it is. I'm raising 3 boys to reject that behavior as well. There's nothing like healthy sexuality. I wish you both the best!
what a brilliant interview.
This lady is worth her weight in gold she is brilliant
So how does her chair withstand her immense weight?
@@mgtowchampion7961 She's 60+ old lady and in a normal range of weight for her age group. Learn to actually make an argument, loser.
@@mgtowchampion7961 in ways porn brains cannot even picture
Women want to learn about intimacy from videos such as Inspiration, thye are mostly inspired by an emphatic attitude, gentle kiss, or some romantic gesture. While some Nicky Swift CZcams videos create a list of celebs saying how much they hated to kiss their acting partner in Hollywood, and how unpleasant the experience was for them. Something so innocent and gentle is blamed, just for some click ratings that some CZcamsrs make.....People will probably stop praising celebs and all the fake nonsense, and praise only those celebs who use common sense.
I love you so much Gail
Gail is legendary
Is it not time to take Dr. Dines' views seriously?
No, not really.
It is well past time. Unfortunately, porn and the broader sex industry has accumulated so much wealth and power over the last several decades and is more determined than ever to keep woman in her place..it is hard to disseminate works by feminists like Dines.
@@johnwakefield7373 twerp
@@JaneA544 Ee ubah ylyah twerp!
Where can we read that article by andrea dworkin?
Thanks for all the work you've done on this Ms Dines.
All hail Gail
Feminism and agenda.. can you please link thr article so i can read it?
It's a chapter (Feminism: an agenda) from a book called "Letters from a war zone" by Andrea Dworkin
Is "feminism an agenda" a book or article?
It's a chapter from a book called "Letters from a war zone" by Andrea Dworkin
Your point?
@@minaharker6641 thank you
Gail Dines is always hilarious! LMAO
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but then again i think gail dines is right on on many things.
***** No she is completely insane.
sandorx4 actually I agree, she makes me laugh tho.
@@sandorx4 dunce
@@JaneA544 Are you one of the crazy women as well?
Millions of people have sex every day and enjoy it. Of course, if you're obese, well, you may have to make that once a month. Sorry that you had to read this.
What does that even mean? What was the point of that 'contribution'?
porn is awesome!
+Grey Johnson Not in the long-run. I don't really worry 'bout peeps like you anymore as natural selection shall eliminate degenerated attitudes like yours.
Well if anyone really thinks they can destroy the adult film industry they're incredibly stupid.
@@greyjohnson7323 That's what slave owners used to say about the United States slave industry. For hundreds of years, they were right, too. Doesn't mean it can't change one day. Porn is a blight upon humanity.
@@virces6563 the human mind is hardwired to look at naked humans, you fucking idiot.
@@Panamenya you are putting the slave trade that allowed a slave owner to hang his slaves from a tree into the same box as consenting adults being filmed while fucking and getting paid for it ? You fucking idiot.
just like a chain smoker who doesn't want to hear that smoking causes cancer, a porn consumer wouldn't like to listen to Gail Dines at all. It is good that somebody is spreading awareness about harmful effects of porn. thank u Gail Dines.