Very helpful especially the wrist watch tip. All the other ones I cannot tell the different between the swing because I have never played but the wrist watch tip is very helpful.
My man you are one hell of a coach. I used the "box" finish yesterday and I was crushing the ball. I'm not sure exactly why but this technique promoted a full follow through...I think previously I'd been "arming" the ball and not getting the full force of my weight and shoulder turn into the ball. In any case, I expect that this new forehand along with my new power serve that you've also helped me to develop, I will be crushing opponents. Your lessons and advice are really great for the advanced player (4.5 to 5.5)...maybe even higher. You are able to demonstrate techniques to take shots that have plateaued to the next level and it's usually quite simple...it's just stuff I hadn't thought of. Keep up the great work!
I have a semi to full western grip - I found the box finish is really important to ensure the swing path has enough forward direction . I used to swing up too much without enough forward direction. Thanks Coach!
am a NTRP 5.0 with a good FH... after facing a lot of frustration in match play, i realised that the ultimate key to unlock easy power comes from relaxation of the arm... and for that we need to actively crunch / twist our stomach... when I focus on coiling my torso and really feel the twisting of the stomach muscles while executing the Unit Turn, I find that my arm is Auto- Relaxed. And after a lot of trial n error, i came to conclude that if we want to really coil our tummy w.o tensing our arm, we need to keep the toes and knees pointed forward, and really feel the twinge in our outer knee ligaments as we twist our torso.. this cue keeps my arm relaxed.. i think Fed does this a lot... but to each his own !
Omg, I have applied the "box" and it works !!! I have been trying "windshield wipers" motion and it didn't work at all, I don't know why. Thanks a lot!
I have a few students who have that same late internal rotation you showed at 3:47. Maybe I'll try the "butt cap at the opponent sooner" queue with them.
I tried your tips and they really help my follow thru and overall consistency. However, what worked best for me was finishing by pointing my bent elbow where I was aiming and at the ball path. This accomplishes the dual functions of making follow thru consistent and also aiding in purposeful aiming. If you finish pointing the elbow at the aiming spot, the racket butt and the "box" naturally end up in the correct positions. The elbow ends up in the lower peripheral vision in line with your target for good visual feedback. If the racket head ends up pointing at the target like some newbies like to do, the follow thru is incomplete.
I have watched a lot of online tennis videos. And I have just recently blundered into TPA tennis. I've got to say, there are plenty of good stuffs here.
This completely solved my forehand issue. Was swiping to the side and wrapping with no space. Is it important to point the tip of racket heat at target? I use straight arm.
one really important thing is to remember you are hitting a sphere. You should try to round the ball. Feel de ball's circle. A big mistake of a lot of players is try to hit a 2 dimension ball.
what do you think about Roger and Alcaraz finish the racquet also around the shoulder height, but string facing down? What's the pros and cons of string facing down vs facing sideway in your opinion?
Great lesson again Coach. How can I improve Stopping the body/core to allow the racket to fly through? (Kinetic chain: stopping one link/body to allow another link/arm to fly through? Thanks
Left arm waving to opponent. focus on chest aiming to the net. When pushing the back leg, focus on pushing down to up and not down to up and forward. Focus on keeping the head quiet during the swing. Start with shadow swings to get the hang of it.
Can you please do a video for those of us whose forehand grip is in between a continental and eastern? I am old school and tried to go semi Western but failed. Please help.
TPA you know all about tennis.👍 FH well explained. Good lesson. Perfect demonstration. Nothing left to say. Game, Set and match 🥎 L-O-V-E from Berlin ❤
Absolutly bulls eye explanation and not a one way ortodox explanation, wich I really like because, it creat different opportuneties inside what is OK- I as a very skilled play and coach really like the box picter and the watch and budcap ex.planations aswell .
@@TomAllsopp Look at all pros in slow motion, the hitting arm structure generally does not change through contact (whether bent or straight), and bends only after ball is gone. Of course if you already hit with a bent arm FH then it's bent through contact, but should bend more only after ball is gone.
@@henrytoussant9385 Obviously players could do this incorrectly, just like most technical adjustments. But usually, an early bend of the elbow will prevent the forearm from rotating, which will prevent the last side of the box from closing.
Oh jeeze, now we got to •pat the dog •Pull through the slot •Throw the racket tip like a frisbee or skip the stone •Make a rainbow around the beach ball •And now finally make a box, which actually looks more like a Dorito. But yeah. I’m trying it.
I don't think it makes sense to talk much about the follow-through; where the racquet ends up depends on what you're doing to the ball, which is the most important thing. If you use wrist rotation to apply topspin, then the racquet will end up on the other side of the body with the butt cap pointing forward without any other effort. If you aren't applying topspin to the ball with wrist rotation, then it doesn't matter where your racquet ends up, because the follow-through doesn't do anything to the ball.
The finish is just a result of your swing path - if you swing low to high you'll finish over the shoulder. If you swing flatter you'll finish lower. It's only purpose is to dissipate the energy of your swing safety so you should just let it happen.
@@NamesAreRandomI used to believe this as well and it’s been told to me by an ex top 500 ATP player turned coach. Definitely in a swing simplified to ABC, B the contact point is the most important and C is the consequence of B. Whatever happens after B doesn’t affect the ball. However: 1. around B things are happening way to quickly for the conscious mind to analyze, 2. momentum after B obliges a certain follow through C…C & B are biomechanically linked through momentum. You can’t suddenly force a C into some weird event is what you’re saying and I agree. However trying smoothly to match a C taught by coaches will help (not ensure) a better B.
@@Johnstage I would split your C into a follow thru then a finish, the follow thru is following thru with the feel of trying keep the strings on the ball and the finish happens after your reach max extension and the racket will wrap around. A good follow thru absolutely will effect what happens to the ball - generally you're looking for the racket to extend in the direction you want the ball to go. The finish is all about decelerating the racket smoothly so you don't hurt yourself. Most of what Tom was talking about today was in the finish (e.g. look at your watch, over the shoulder).
What ya think?
excellent video
I like the box. Seems very effective!
After watching, I think I'm both liberated and boxed in.
Very helpful especially the wrist watch tip. All the other ones I cannot tell the different between the swing because I have never played but the wrist watch tip is very helpful.
Thanks. Why you watching if you’ve never played? Just curious…
I’ve been playing for 50 yrs, and have watched a lot of training videos, and I think yours are the best. Thanks.
My man you are one hell of a coach. I used the "box" finish yesterday and I was crushing the ball. I'm not sure exactly why but this technique promoted a full follow through...I think previously I'd been "arming" the ball and not getting the full force of my weight and shoulder turn into the ball. In any case, I expect that this new forehand along with my new power serve that you've also helped me to develop, I will be crushing opponents.
Your lessons and advice are really great for the advanced player (4.5 to 5.5)...maybe even higher. You are able to demonstrate techniques to take shots that have plateaued to the next level and it's usually quite simple...it's just stuff I hadn't thought of. Keep up the great work!
I have a semi to full western grip - I found the box finish is really important to ensure the swing path has enough forward direction . I used to swing up too much without enough forward direction.
Thanks Coach!
One of the best forehand video I have seen. Thanks a lot. You have sorted out one of the biggest issues in my game.❤
am a NTRP 5.0 with a good FH... after facing a lot of frustration in match play, i realised that the ultimate key to unlock easy power comes from relaxation of the arm... and for that we need to actively crunch / twist our stomach... when I focus on coiling my torso and really feel the twisting of the stomach muscles while executing the Unit Turn, I find that my arm is Auto- Relaxed.
And after a lot of trial n error, i came to conclude that if we want to really coil our tummy w.o tensing our arm, we need to keep the toes and knees pointed forward, and really feel the twinge in our outer knee ligaments as we twist our torso.. this cue keeps my arm relaxed.. i think Fed does this a lot... but to each his own !
Omg, I have applied the "box" and it works !!! I have been trying "windshield wipers" motion and it didn't work at all, I don't know why. Thanks a lot!
Tom does it again. Another excellent video.
Wow!! You are indeed a fantastic teacher. Exactly the problem i am having and nobody was able to fix it.. Thanks indeed Sir
I have a few students who have that same late internal rotation you showed at 3:47. Maybe I'll try the "butt cap at the opponent sooner" queue with them.
Thank you for making this video! Wonderful! Learned a lot!
Great tips Tom ...especially the one to check the time.....really... its so easy but effective ...keep up the good work, love your videos.
Big Big Thank for another great tip. ❤
I tried your tips and they really help my follow thru and overall consistency. However, what worked best for me was finishing by pointing my bent elbow where I was aiming and at the ball path. This accomplishes the dual functions of making follow thru consistent and also aiding in purposeful aiming. If you finish pointing the elbow at the aiming spot, the racket butt and the "box" naturally end up in the correct positions. The elbow ends up in the lower peripheral vision in line with your target for good visual feedback. If the racket head ends up pointing at the target like some newbies like to do, the follow thru is incomplete.
The "box" finish explains it. Thanks Tom!
Ohhhhh thank you from italy this video helped me so much
Thank you very much coach. You made it again. Happy weekend.🌞🌎🌙🙏
Awesome advice! Will try next time.
Very helpful! Thank you!👍👏🇺🇸
finally clear info thank you so much you helped me fix my mistake
Good clear explanations ❤
I have watched a lot of online tennis videos. And I have just recently blundered into TPA tennis. I've got to say, there are plenty of good stuffs here.
Happy you found me!
Really good ideas
You're a terrific coach. What does each finish do to the trajectory of the ball? Where on the court is best to hit each?
Good teaching.
This completely solved my forehand issue. Was swiping to the side and wrapping with no space. Is it important to point the tip of racket heat at target? I use straight arm.
Great ❤
surely the follow through is a result of the incoming ball and thus what you are trying to do with the ball shortly after
In theory, yes
one really important thing is to remember you are hitting a sphere. You should try to round the ball. Feel de ball's circle. A big mistake of a lot of players is try to hit a 2 dimension ball.
Could watch Nitzan's forehand all day
How long could you watch mine for?
@@TomAllsopp I could watch del Potro's pretty much forever
what do you think about Roger and Alcaraz finish the racquet also around the shoulder height, but string facing down? What's the pros and cons of string facing down vs facing sideway in your opinion?
I cover this in a video 2 weeks ago featuring Alcaraz. I don’t like it! czcams.com/video/nYCj0ZXsPrI/video.htmlsi=G_BJZhAjImDZz9AH
Wow, thanks, this can be applied to Western FH too, right ?
Yes
Great lesson again Coach. How can I improve Stopping the body/core to allow the racket to fly through? (Kinetic chain: stopping one link/body to allow another link/arm to fly through? Thanks
Left arm waving to opponent. focus on chest aiming to the net. When pushing the back leg, focus on pushing down to up and not down to up and forward. Focus on keeping the head quiet during the swing. Start with shadow swings to get the hang of it.
i think the finish (above or below the shoulder) largely depends on the grip (continental, simi western, etc)
I use eastern. Where should I finish?
@@TomAllsopp where the natural motion of the hitting arm leads you .. above your shoulder as you are naturally doing
@attybong but I finish next to my left arm with an eastern grip. Way lower than over my shoulder
@@TomAllsopp well, if that's where your arm naturally leads your finish to .. i'm happy for you
Where should semi western finish?
Can you please do a video for those of us whose forehand grip is in between a continental and eastern? I am old school and tried to go semi Western but failed. Please help.
I use an eastern grip but I guess I could do a more traditional stroke
TPA you know all about tennis.👍 FH well explained. Good lesson. Perfect demonstration. Nothing left to say. Game, Set and match 🥎 L-O-V-E from Berlin ❤
Absolutly bulls eye explanation and not a one way ortodox explanation, wich I really like because, it creat different opportuneties inside what is OK- I as a very skilled play and coach
really like the box picter and the watch and budcap ex.planations aswell .
Box might promote bending of the elbow through contract which wouldn't be good.
You think the arm should be straight at contact?
@@TomAllsopp Look at all pros in slow motion, the hitting arm structure generally does not change through contact (whether bent or straight), and bends only after ball is gone. Of course if you already hit with a bent arm FH then it's bent through contact, but should bend more only after ball is gone.
@@henrytoussant9385 Obviously players could do this incorrectly, just like most technical adjustments. But usually, an early bend of the elbow will prevent the forearm from rotating, which will prevent the last side of the box from closing.
Oh jeeze, now we got to
•pat the dog
•Pull through the slot
•Throw the racket tip like a frisbee or skip the stone
•Make a rainbow around the beach ball
•And now finally make a box, which actually looks more like a Dorito.
But yeah. I’m trying it.
forget pat the dog - pull through the slot - make a rainbow around the beach ball and you'll be fine.
Great video!! many thanks
What grip? Eastern?
I mention grips at the end. Eastern or semi should work
Amaizing!
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I don't think it makes sense to talk much about the follow-through; where the racquet ends up depends on what you're doing to the ball, which is the most important thing. If you use wrist rotation to apply topspin, then the racquet will end up on the other side of the body with the butt cap pointing forward without any other effort.
If you aren't applying topspin to the ball with wrist rotation, then it doesn't matter where your racquet ends up, because the follow-through doesn't do anything to the ball.
there's no better way of improving a player's forehand than to focus on the follow-through.
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The finish is just a result of your swing path - if you swing low to high you'll finish over the shoulder. If you swing flatter you'll finish lower. It's only purpose is to dissipate the energy of your swing safety so you should just let it happen.
Are you saying it’s not possible to change the swing path by focusing on where you finish?
@@TomAllsopp I agree you can use it as a check to tell you a bit about your swing, but surely it would be a bad idea to attempt to force a finish.
No, forcing yourself to finish in a specific place is important if you want to make technical adjustments. Every coach uses this method.
@@NamesAreRandomI used to believe this as well and it’s been told to me by an ex top 500 ATP player turned coach. Definitely in a swing simplified to ABC, B the contact point is the most important and C is the consequence of B. Whatever happens after B doesn’t affect the ball. However: 1. around B things are happening way to quickly for the conscious mind to analyze, 2. momentum after B obliges a certain follow through C…C & B are biomechanically linked through momentum. You can’t suddenly force a C into some weird event is what you’re saying and I agree. However trying smoothly to match a C taught by coaches will help (not ensure) a better B.
@@Johnstage I would split your C into a follow thru then a finish, the follow thru is following thru with the feel of trying keep the strings on the ball and the finish happens after your reach max extension and the racket will wrap around.
A good follow thru absolutely will effect what happens to the ball - generally you're looking for the racket to extend in the direction you want the ball to go. The finish is all about decelerating the racket smoothly so you don't hurt yourself. Most of what Tom was talking about today was in the finish (e.g. look at your watch, over the shoulder).
Great ❤