Odyssey Extreme VS Optima Batteries Red Top Battery
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- čas přidán 27. 08. 2024
- In this quick video will show you the differences and construction of two completely different batteries. The Odyssey Extreme 34R PC-1500 and the Optima Red Top 34R. The reason for the "R" is that the polarity is reversed. At the end of video you might be surprised by are long testing of the Optima Batteries. Recorded in HD.
Highlights
Odyssey Extreme
400 charge-discharge cycles at 80% depth of discharge.
EXTREME temperature tolerances
Sealed, Absorbed Glass Mat (AGM) design never requires watering.
Optima Batteries RedTop
Virtually spill proof
Mountable in virtually any position
Maintenance-free
Parts Shown In This VideoOdyssey Extreme 34R PC-1500
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Optima Batteries 8003-151 34R RedTop
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Awesome review!! I was leaning to the optimal but after your video I will definitely go with the Odyssey. Thanks for the info.🤜🏽🤛🏽
Thanks for watching. Go Extreme if there is one compatible for your Mopar. Did a lot of research and they pack a lot of power into a small footprint.
We have had very good luck with our Odyssey Extreme batteries in our drag cars. We pull some pretty good amps with, elec.fans, water pump, fuel pump, ignition. Odyssey has never not started our cars or caused any electrical issues. Top quality, American made product!
Good to know! - Thank you for sharing
Had an Optima in my truck like 14 years ago and got about 7 out of it... Went to an Odyssey after that and it was still going strong after I sold the truck this summer... Odyssey and Odyssey ONLY.
Optima batteries are poorly made now...they used to be excellent ..I too went with Oddesy ...
Look forward to the Odyssey long term review.
So are we. Looking for reliability, we push our batteries that is for sure. Thanks as always for watching 👍
The odyssey will do good for you.
Optima batteries got bought out years ago and they’re just a name now. They became pieces of junk back then.
is it long-term now?
Alternators only charge a car battery to about 80%. To properly maintain an AGM battery you must periodically give them a sympathetic FULL charge every one to two months. Then they will last many years. Otherwise they will step down and degrade.
I have 2x Odeyssy on my Ram diesel since 2008 and they still perform perfectly. and i live in north country with in winter -20° on average. Never have a boost never charge. I Love them
Was on the fence.. thanks for the video
Optima was owned by Bertil Gylling and he retired in 99. A year later Johnson Controls and Gylling sat down for some dealings and the company was sold. Optima is fully owned by Johnson Controls the largest battery manufacturer in the world. They practically make every battery seating on a shelf rn, no matter the brand. Quality control is not there biggest concern, I’d say profit margins are a slightly more imperative.
I just saw your reply after I made mine and then scrolled down to see what others wrote. Yeah, sad times for Optima
I have a DieHard platinum battery, which Sears offered for a few years. It is rebadged Odessey. It came with a 7 year warranty, but I'm 8 years in without a problem. I highly recommend them, and they will be what go into all my vehicles. They even make one for my Harley.
8 years no problem that is amazing, that battery has paid for itself by now. Thanks for sharing.
When Optima first came out they were groundbreaking and amazing in the car audio world. Then at some point (after they built up their name to an industry standard) they sold out to some other company and that's when their quality took a nose dive. I don't remember exactly when that happened, but i think in the late 90's to early 2000's
Yeah now made in Mexico. That says it all. I been running the same Yellow top Optima in my 2000 Z/24 supercharged Cavalier. Battery was built in December 2005 and I bought it in January 2006. Here it is September 2021 and still in my car. Many years later I bought another yellow top for my 2011 Civic. 2 years to the month. Also my 1982 DeLorean red top dead 1 year after I put it in. I now run Odyssey in my Civic and DeLorean with ZERO issues
Exactly right!
All true. Not virgin lead anymore, the whole manufacturing process changed (for the worse) when it moved to Mexico. I still have a yellow top in my DeLorean that is almost 3 years old, no problems yet, but when I do I will replace with an Odyssey battery.
Too bad Optima moved manufacturing to Mexico and has subsequently seen a huge decline in their quality. They used to be an awesome battery. Looks like Odyssey has them beat hands down and as a plus, they’re made in the USA.
I know Clarios is supposed tl be Johnson Controls. But I've sold many many Optima's in the 5 years Ive been dealing parts. The Optima's that were labeled Johnson Controls held up much much better then the ones we now sell with the Clarios lable. Im not sure why. I do think the quality control has gone down a lot. They just charge a lot for the brand recognition. I love how Odyssey has a lot more true OEM group sizes. Im going with an Odyssey for my Mustang. They are the only company i know that makes a 94r AGM.
The original optima company got bought out several years ago. They are now built in Mexico last I checked. They use to be a great battery that lasted for years but their quality is crap now.
My optima red top has been in my 1998 Toyota 4Runner for 8 years this month and still going strong.
They use to be the best until it moved to Mexico
You must got one of the last ones before they became pieces of outsourced junk.
I would like to know what is failing with the optima batteries. Mine is a couple years old and still going. Maybe I shouldn't wait for failure.
Edit: 1997 jeep grand cherokee 4.0 daily driver road use.
I am not sure what failed. We purchased one from Auto Zone, when we noticed an issue with charging we took it in to be diagnosed and the result was the battery needed to be replaced. Charge would be lost quickly at the end of live. Alternator was checked as well, no issues. If you are passed two years you might just have it checked out to be sure, those checks are free at Auto Zone and Advanced Auto if you have either one of those locations. Thanks for your question.
Made in Mexico. Reduced assembly quality and lower grade lead
Odyssey has better wide dual terminal posts spacing for my needs. Group 78 But I’ve been using Two Yellow top optima’s in my diesel pickup over 11 years now. They are still going.
several of my fellow boaters have had bad experiences with Optimas. They have gone over to Odyssey's and have never been let down by them. Optimas are unrealiable and are to be avoided at all costs they said.
I have no idea why the Odyssey is being compared to Optima its like comparing a Ferrari to a pinto. Optima used to make great batteries but now they are average at best.
I went through several Optima Yellow Tops in recent years - they lose charge fast and have to replace them every 1 or 2 years. I am reading their manufacturing sucks after they moved to Mexico. I used to have great results with the original Yellow Top of the early 2000s. I’ll try Odessey Extreme.
Just to add my experience so far with the Yellow Top Optima.
My LS swap Miata has been through 3 replacements in the almost 3 years I bought it. So that makes it the 4th battery now. It would go dead just sitting in the garage a few days for no reason. The most recent one is giving me fits. I would check for parasitic draw on all interior circuits since I have a small 400w Alpine amp (55wx4) and Pioneer stereo. It would be rock solid for two days but the third day it would start dropping my battery tender (NOCO Genius 10) that can handle AGM batteries. So two days of maintenance green light trickle top off but third day out of the blue it would drop to 50% charge for no reason. I would disconnect a terminal (didnt matter which one). Then charge it direct and in 30 seconds it would just suddenly go from 50% to full charge. I would check all circuits again to make sure nothing was pulling current and it would be silent.
The prior replacements were due to a bad cell that developed.
Planning on going the Odyssey route but need to research battery box sizes as I have to replace a D51R size battery so options are tight unless I pull out plastic panels in the trunk.
I have a 6.0 powerstroke and I was running two yellow tops and in four yrs I've had 4 swaps and on my 5th this week autozone swapped me in to a odyssey and took care of the extra $50 difference and I immediately seen a difference especially in cold starts. I have hi hopes for this new battery.
Had a a similar issue with a YellowTop. The ones back before they moved shop to Mexico were seller batteries. The Johnson Controls bought them up and moved shop, and now the Yellow Tops won't last 2 years. I bought 2 more Yellow tops just to give it the benefit of the doubt, and the second one had me almost screwed me. Imagine being off road (over 1 hour away from anything), and your battery start no longer holding a charge, with the alternator acting as life support, then trying to limp back into town hoping you don't hit idle speeds. Yeah screw Optima these days. I got myself an Odyssey (34/78 PC1500) and that thing is considering all the electronics I have in my truck. Doesn't even flinch.
That explains a lot. Glad we are not the only ones experiencing issues with Optima. Thanks for watching and commenting
Johnson Controls really knows how to screw up great companies when they buy them out. 👍
You're comparing the worst AGM battery brand with the best in the business! Optimas only last about 2 years, they have a very thin glass mat which is where the acid is suspended!
I GOT 2 REDTOPS GOING ON 6 YEARS AND THEY SIT AT 12.3 VOLTS WHEN CAR IS OFF. ILL KEEP BUYING OPTIMA FOR $100 LESS
X2 Extreme batteries at Batteries Plus are actually Oddesey batteries rebadged.
Spend a cool 360 bucks on one for my Acura TL a few months ago. Let's see how long it lasts... an Optima Red Top was in it earlier...
How long did you red top last? Just got a red top for my Acura TL but had no idea about Odyssey batteries till now. Going to make the switch once this battery bites it.
does the odyssée good if you have aftermarket accessories , light and head unit?
No problems with aftermarket accessories . Especially the extreme line.
Running 3 Odyssey Extreme Battery on my 07 H-2 Hummer with 2 Stinger relayed , 2 alternator 350 HI Output .. my Audio sound a lot better with no dim lights an voltage is steady 13.8 to 14.0 ..never go back to Optima..
Bought a Optima in 2014 it just went out today 2022. However, I bought 2 for my duramax, 1 for my tahoe and 2 for camping. All 5 went bad in under 2 years. Even my camping ones that were left with a battery tender on them. I will NEVER buy an Optima again they are absolute trash after Johnson Control bought them out. Not only do they die quick I lost count how many times I had to jump start my vehicles in the cold weather. I honestly feel like I got scammed.
I went with Odyessy, they are FAR superior. More ah, tougher, actually rugged under heavy abuse, fast recharge and same price or cheaper even. Pretty obvious the choice, but marketing is deceitful and tactful, and people continue to buy them. You're wasting your $ folks, look at the high power car audio world. We put batteries to the ultimate test. We pull wayyyy more current then any application in any industry. The most abusive situations thought of, and we all use Northstar, Odyessy and lithium. Only way to keep voltage up under extreme loads, along with longevity.
I have a Napa Legend acid lead battery that came with my Lexus es300. Im running Alpine 600 watt amp. Doesn't dim headlights or anything. Would it really help save on how long it takes battery to charge? Im planning on buying one but don't want to throw away money as the battery is only 2 years old. I was thinking when the battery gets atleast 3 years old I'll make the upgrade.
I don't really drive much maybe 3000 miles per year but it gets driven atleast 5 days per week
Find a charger that is capable of charging or maintaining and then buy a new battery when you start to see it fall. You might get more life out of it that way.
Iv always ran with optima red top and yellow top and never had issues. My oldest one lasted 8 years so I’ll stick to what Iv been sticking to. Optima is my go to 🤘🏻
Optima moved manufacturing to Mexico and has seen their quality control fall through the floor. The more you know…
I run strictly optima batteries I’ve had a red top fail on me after four years but I’ve had a yellow top finally fail after 16 years I think the yellow top deep cycle are a lot better built battery.. I thought about checking out the odysseys🤷♂️
I just ordered an Odyssey to replace my yellow top in my Mazda 3. Bought the 3 in 2008, and put the yellow top in it either then, or early 2009, and its been there ever since, no issues. Been completely discharged numerous times as I haven't driven it much the last seven years as I have a company vehicle for my job, and I think it's finally given up the ghost.
Prior to that, I put a yellow top in my 1994 Miata after getting sick of the horrible stock battery after a few years. My first yellow top turned out bad, and was replaced under warranty, and the new one was just fine, probably lasted me 13-15 years, and was also discharged numerous times, as the Miata was stored winters, and sometimes, it just sat a bit too long.
Both yellow tops bought after the sale to Johnson Controls, and also after production moved to Mexico, I think, so I guess it's just hit or miss with them now. The reason I decided to try the Odyssey. That, and it was a few bucks cheaper than a new yellow top.
@@achn2b you are right, Optimas are junk.
Yellow tops are shit too. You just got lucky.
@@deeeeeeps lol, what a comment , Jeep fitted them to all export CRD Jks as factory , my first one lasted 10 years my second jeep lasted 11, you don't hear of yellow tops failing here at all until they are many many years old
As I was researching info on the differences between the Optima ('Six Pack') AGM batteries and the Odyssey Performance and Extreme AGM batteries (as well as the WMart 'Everstart' I currently am looking to replace).
I found that Scotty Kilmer had made a video about the Optima batteries and their history and why he will not be buying them anymore and why he 'recommends' (warns) others not to either.
Here's the link:
'Never Buy This Battery'
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2009 optima stopped us production and they went to shit.
Odyssey’s 3 year warranty is total BULL SH*T !! A year and a half and one of mine went bad. Odyssey says it was “OVER DISCHARGED “ ! Ok, well why won’t they replace it. Just another way to skip out on the replacement !
Is it good for a second battery for car audio
That is a great question. We are running a factory setup, no extra speakers or amps.
Maybe someone else will see this post and can provide an answer for you.
too much beer is bad 4 u anyway hahahaa
Agree, we would have been ok though these were Pepsi cans 😎 Copyright not approved for this video 😂
I too am a old fat man&got a ride mow 2018 junker with denture tablet in each cell w fw for 24 hr.s
Optima is made in mexico. Odyssey is made in the states with only the best materials. All that needs to be said
Optima made in Mexico nuff said.......