My electric bill almost tripled the month following the installation of a new smart meter. It was said to save everyone money. I am sure that it's saving the electric company a bundle.
To: Stepside1986, If you can truly prove by showing years of past records of your usage during specific months of the year that the meter was reflecting improper usage, you can take them to court and win... It has been done!
Remember when Nikola Tesla said he'll provide the world with free energy, but then a capitalist took the opportunity to make more money? yeah I still remember
The so called smart meters can only keep track of the amount of electricity in the power line, it will show you if there is a decrease which is either cause by damage or electricity stealing but it wont tell you which one it is however if you have enough smart meters you can pin point the location - That saod to steal electrity all you need is a cable made of an electricity conducting material (most metal are conductors) you attach it to a power line (dangerous since you can die from electric shock if not wearing the stuff that i wont tell you) and attach the other end to a battery or whatever electric device you want to power and thats it
Tusk u wear all rube boots and gloves and the Electricity should go through it that’s what u wear so stop people need to understand that they shouldn’t have the power to just turn people off like that
Like i said: I won't tell you what you need to wear. I won't say if you are correct or wrong, all i will is that: Its very dangerous not only because of electricity but because you can get caught. So you shouldn't do it unless your life depends on it.
the old ways are still the best ways make a jumper in the service entrance to your breaker box use a 300 amp disconnect and a "bleeder" breaker to power the meter when you feel like you having a little free power (just remember to use the meter for real a little or they will figure out what you did)
My electric bill doubled up for a single person and all my appliances are gas and my bill is $ 300 for this September, I was on phone with the company for 2 hours did not do anything refuse to sent an inspector to check to meter.
Having remote turn off would be risky as hackers could turn off hundreds or thousands of meters at once and the switch will be another failure point. Though the tear down of one I saw there was no switching hardware in it just shunts and transformers.
It's not hard to inductively couple electricity to a side circuit that bypasses the meter completely. You can find example schematics easily on the web,
Most (if not all) utility companies pay no taxes while the government steals 1/3 of your wages. If someone can steal electricity, I say more power to em.
I have hackers...I was really upset about it for a long time. now I realized I couldn't be more thankful. so I plan on living a happy healthy life with them.everyone can change.
so my question is if your power is not yet off...and this of course is hypothetical...if you disconnect the blue and white will you essentially not rack up further charges
What would be the impact if syatem is hacked and more then million customers are out of power? If it can be done for one meter tgem one million meters can be disconnected.
I guess if you go to work and you don’t get paid that would be good with you?
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No one can lose something that was not in their prior possession. And trust me on this one: The energy you and I pay for is not made of the sweat of honest men and women at the electricity factory. It is stolen. From nature. Oil and coal, buried tens of thousands years ago now keep our climate cozy, ain't it? Rivers dammed and mountain valleys flooded. The company actually steals the energy from you, me, your kids and the rest of the living creatures on this planet and selling it back to us... for a mind boggling profit. If you like math, check the numbers. How much it costs the company to produce one kilowatt and how much you pay for it. Then try to find out how much cost's *you* for one kilowatt produced by the company. Don't forget to add VAT. ;)
You are pretty much everything wrong with environmentalism. If you think electricity is "stolen" from nature (fucktarded concept), then stop using electricity and any products and services provided with electricity.
Oh yeah, I forgot engineering, research and development, property, construction, paying employees, where all free. With your thinking, farmers are stealing from you because the food is taken from the ground, Metals we use in our every day life like gold, silver, copper are all being stolen from us right? because no one is investing time, effort and money to produce those resources. Fuck it, honey is free, beekeepers are stealing from us by harvesting honey the bees produce and selling it right back to us!
All kinds of people are disconnecting their electrical/and or smart meters in Contra Costa county. PG&E has zero security measures & is intentionally facilitating this@ specific locations. They are no doubt receiving💲💰 in exchange for looking the other way. Most of the benefactors are Asains (Chinese) who need uncharted electrical consumption for clandestine activity.
To: Mr Smith, They won't let you keep it for long, and if you tell them that you won't let them exchange it for a smart meter when they want to they will charge you a penalty fee, and if you don't pay that they will turn off your electricity! The only way to win is to somehow prove the smart meter is harming someone in the house,... Good luck with THAT!!
You'd wear (or would be asked by your employer to wear) that sort of equipment installing any kind of meter, smart or not, on large commercial or multifamily installations as seen in this video. We're talking about electricity here after all. As for why it's better, the utilities don't have to pay a bunch of folk to read every meter, which also eliminates inaccurate billing, and they can get live data whenever they, or the consumer, need an update, just to name a few benefits.
David Chambers BTW, that was required safety gear so the workers family doesn't sue the company for so much it raises our price. It protects you! It was save millions upon millions of dollars by getting rid of meter readers that had to walk into every yard with all kinds of hazards, let alone the house dog, and the insurance required. Then the time it took to personally read every meter. And not raise the cost of electric. It may not have gone down, but it will be longer before it can go up. Problem is, most large Power Companies probably laid off thousands of meter readers. Good for us but sucks for them. As for remote turn off, the meter is not strong enough to do it from a localized location. They would have to drive down the street anyway. And even with the old meters, I could do that with parts from a normal home parts & pieces.
Ron Rold 4 ways to lower your electrical bill. This is how your electrical company is going to save money and lower your rates. #1 Installing smart meters is a HUGE INVESTMENT for the power companies. Remember your new smart meter is worth about $400 each and has to be replaced about every 10 years. #2 The vast meshed network of other radio's and other communication facilities are needed to move the ton of customers private billing data. #3 The huge new “billing” computer required to store all of this customer private billing data. #4 The amount of additional power being stolen will double or triple because a smart meter can not detect an electrical bypass. The meter readers have now been fired and no longer will be doing the meter readings and looking for illegal power connections
I’m a licensed electrician. I don’t recommend tapping into the grid. As far as friends going through hard times… I just tap the line before the meter. It’s undetectable . Dangerous. I wish everyone had an electrician friend.
yes. Look up dipole and you'll see how it works. Wave hit both sides and AC voltage flows through both sides of the antenna. For something like an earth battery, half of the antenna is grounded. + in open air and - side in the ground. They're pulling 110 volts AC. So look up Earth Battery, and Dipole Antenna. I tried it and was getting under 50 volts but it takes copper to do it. Egyptians used lots of copper and they even had wireless electricity.
Why aren't the meters inside? Most homes in UK, not all, have their meters in a cupboard inside. Does this make it more difficult for others to steal your electricity? I know the home owner can still be duping the system but at least they can't say it was someone else!
WHO is getting the power turned off when the don't expect it? For the above reasons. How many are now sitting in dark cold houses because someone fooled with the meter? There is no reality here, don't waste your time.
+Liberty309 Screw the white corporate world,go green and use solar power,no one to check your usages or inflate your power. The power company would be asking you for power.
they wont let you remove the smart meter, i drove around town and every single home i saw had a smart meter so everwhere you drive your bombaarded with this waves
Humberto Alanis Where we live they sent out a notice stating they were going to ‘upgrade’ our meter. Before they came out to install the smart meter. The day they came out to install it, a man knocked on our door and told us he was going to install it and we told him we didn’t want it. We also printed a piece of paper, (which we water-proofed), and attached it to our meter, that stated no smart meter zone. After we told the man this, we seen him call on the phone and was on the phone for about 7-10 min before he left.
Just in case you missed it 1:28 . Write to tables, which changes the configuration why would a company will be allowed to do this? $$$$ thiefs and aren't hel accounted for.
And the power stations should be built for free, and the fuel should be provided for free, and the workers should work for free, and the grid should be maintained for free, and...
Your comment is ridiculous what you want to WORK FOR FREE apparently you have very little understanding what the process is to bring electricity to customers and maintain power
Keepskatin White GREED your comment is ridiculous you are most likely BLACK and you get Public Assistance so I can play the RACE CARD TOO it's thinking like yours that hold people down and by the way BITCH I'm not white
Yes electricity should be given for free to you cause you're special. Do you even know how electricity is made and how many people are needed to keep power lines and power stations running?
I have my power in my backyard above I called them spoke with them told them I wanted it Underground why should I have to pay to have it install underground they should do it.
(Over 3 years BC Hydro found 1500 electrical diversions and recovered $5 million.) Grow ops are responsible for all of the bypasses in BC. Good thing we got smart meters, but wait. The most common mode of theft is meter bypass and that is not detectable by smart meter systems. Meter readers always make a visual inspection of meters and overhead systems.
Because I work during the day, sleep during the night most of my activities are during 'peak' time. I don't want to cook my dinner at midnight, I don't want to have to wash during the weekend (my only time for relaxation). I don't want to have to wait until 2am in the morning before I can switch my tv and dvd on. I'm generally not at home during off-peak times so why would I want to run my air-conditioner then? It's cheaper to travel by rail on the weekend (off-peak), well great, just a shame I work Monday to Friday like the majority of people. The introduction of a 'smart-meter' regardless of what any agency says will end up costing me more money than what it does now.
Sad part is that, peak power is a myth. It doesn't actually cost a power company any more money to start up another turbine/generator. Peak power is just a way to scam people out of their money.
Def Head : So buy some batteries, an inverter/charger and a timer... charge them in the "off-peak" times and use it like normal.... Ride a fucking bike to work and stop ya fucken bitching!! David Ramsey : It actually has nothing to do with bringing up another turbine, there is one sitting there spinning anyway and that energy is sent to load resistors that waste it to heat 24/7... that's to ensure there is surplus power available so they can maintain voltage under high demand transients. They can't just "bring up another turbine" that weighs thousands of tonnes and then bring it into synchronicity in an instant. There are REAL concerns when it comes to the distribution network, look up capacitive reactance, reluctance and impedance. Educate yourself instead of making wild assumptions and just running with that. You probably switch all your lights off for "earth hour" every year too... Do you know that when the grid "suffers" a massive off-loading like that of a couple of hundred thousand people all turning shit off at once the power companies to take action to keep the turbines from speeding up and the 50/60Hz going off the Richter??? What do you reckon they do?? "Just turn a coupla turbeens orf"??? Where do you reckon all that power goes??
To: Def Head, Your statement that, in the end a smart meter will cost you more money, doesn't make ANY sense!!, the smart meter is going to read the same usage of kilowatt hours as the old analog meter, no matter what method is used for reading it they are still going to get the same numbers and you will still be charged for the same amount of kilowatt-hour usage regardless of the type of meter used to record the usage.
So you are not the electric company but you can go into the meter anytime, anywhere and see what’s going on or turn it off. What is to stop a hacker from doing the same thing? Why would a hacker want to do that? How about for kicks, to steal power (mask their use and make it seem like the person they choose is using the energy and this make them pay the bill), revenge. The old way allows the electric company to turn on off the power from their office, you can see when your power has been hacked into. Usually it is a neighbor and you can follow the cable to their home. These meters allow someone from miles away to steal your power and you have to pay for it while you dispute the bill.
Auntie M : It simply doesn't work that way. The best you could do is reprogram your own smart meter to change the tariff so you pay less for your own power until you get caught.
To: Auntie M, You misunderstand, there is no way hacking a smart-meter can allow someone from "Miles away" or even next-door to steal your power without using wires to do so, and a smart meter will neither help nor hinder that.
To: Auntie M, That is not how the system has EVER worked, even back many years ago, they could not turn your electricity off "From the office", they would have had to send someone out to connect or disconnect you somewhere outside your house. Even now, someone has to come out within range (several hundred feet) of your smart meter to send it a signal to turn off the electricity to your house. They still can't turn it off "From the office", but it IS coming to that soon!
The utility Companies survived very well for a 100 years with analog meters . They didnt like the fact that the consumer could alter it , turn it upside down etc. Now with the smart meters we can no longer mess with the meter as well as there no longer is an analog wheel and dials that documents the usuage . so now the power companies can fudge with those numbers all they want. Is the average home owner ever going to catch an $.25 cent extra usuage on their bill? not very likely and how would they even prove it . So when i power company does shit like that say times 2 million monthly customers do the math thats $500,000 they just stole from us when nobody even noticed or can prove a thing. Think i am wrong? I am so telling the truth it makes my stomach turn
The smart meters are big brothers inside of our houses and know exactly what we're doing when we're doing it how we're doing it when we're home when we're away what we're doing when we're home they are horrible never mind the RF frequency coming off of it
People wouldn't steal power if power companies had some humanity. My electric is off cuz the previous tenant didn't pay their bill before they died. I called to get it turned on again in my name and PECO said they had to do an investigation to make sure I'm not associated with the previous tenant and it takes a minimum of 3 business days... I have to have my kids stay at my in laws cuz PECO doesn't care that I have a 5 year old on a breathing machine all they care about is getting their bill paid by a dead guy that I have never met before.... Wtf. My landlord lied and said utility bill is included in rent but didn't tell me it meant just water bill until the day after I move in the power gets shut off...
FACT: What they will not tell you.. Electric generating turbines have been installed in water pipes everywhere. The water AND power companies are very, very combined with each other. One flush of your toilet will power a light bulb for a whole year. Electric companies are also deeply invested in solar power companies! Also gas companies! BASICALLY anything that can be used for power is property of the power company! Free power is everywhere, but they are to greedy to share...
A good way to reduce your power bill is to find another way to produce your own power, separate from the power company. Everyone should educate themselves on how to do this. There are many methods. Wind turbines, Earth battery, solar photovoltaic, solar thermal electric, RF coil to electric, and a whole lot more types of power harvesting and absorbing and converting schemes exist out in the web and other places. You all have to consider for yourselves which one or more of them is it going to be worth it for you to do, make, and to start to produce your own power. WELL, DON'T. JUST SIT. THERE LOOKING. AT THAT SCREEN, GET AFTER IT !!!
To those who hate the utility companies, get your neighborhood to go in together on pallets of solar panels and wind turbines in bulk. Go off grid. It's not that hard. The hard part is realizing how much electricity you are actually using (ungodly amounts).
HOW ? ? Do they use ESP to read old meters? Please explain how an old meter will tell the power company when your alarm system is turned on. We are all waiting for this explanation.
These meters have microwave radio frequency transmitters that at programmed intervals of time they send out short digital information bursts OVER THE AIR that are coordinated by the on-board computer with the other meters from other customers so that the central office can collect the data from them all in an organized and safe manner. Each unit varies the RF energy outputs for this data transmission to the air because they are all at different distances from the central office receiving station so the ones closer don't need to be so hot and the ones further away need to transmit hotter. When people, wanting to protect themselves from clearly dangerous ionizing data burst Radio Frequency radiation, and they wrap it in aluminum foil, or a grounded "faraday cage" ,the device can sense this as it measures the broadcast power and compares it with recorded power pulses of the past at that same location, then it now has to turn up the transmission power for the data pulse, so that the reciever can log the data,, MAKING IT WAY MORE DANGEROUS THAN IT WAS without the aluminium foil on it. There are people who have sued the power company for health reasons and won settlements because of the dangerous nature of these data pulse microwave radio frequency radiation that these things can put out. Then, people, usually fear mongers, knuckle dragging troglodytes ,apparently not having any basic understanding about radiant energy (maybe they never were next to a fire-- I don't know) start to freak out about the dangers of electric meters data pulse transmitters being dangerous, when what really IS dangerous are stupid people doing stupid things, thinking that they are empowered with knowledge of how to protect themselves from harmful radiation when what they do IS JUST. THE. OPPOSITE ......Please leave the meters alone. If you have concern about the placement of RF emanating devices that you feel are too close to where you live, CONTACT YOUR. POWER. COMPANY OFFICIALS. Despite being regulated by the FCC in terms of output, still I've seen some that have been quite mismanaged as to location and necessary power output for them to be received at the central office to tally up charges. There are over-the-air RF radiant energy meters and detectors that you can buy online fairly cheep. Blessings
It's all "A circus of values!" Just get a few solar panels a month and grow your own production till you don't need them anymore. One 80 to 120 watt PV panel per month is cheap and affordable and before long you will gain enough power to run MUCH of the things in your house. It will however show you just how much power you are wasting very quickly. Lights actually don't take much power at all to run if you switch to LED. When you get to about 1KW, things start getting easier.
you know those bass speakers you hate playing that rap music, get one thats blown out and remove the large magnet of the back, it take a bit of work without cracking the magnet, have another small magnet to figure the draw, place the large magnet in front, firmly against the meter, and just suck out the info including the software thats in it, hahaha, and FU to the electric co
Let's look at why we need TIN FOIL HATS. #1 A smart meter will hurt or even KILL disabled homeowners who have disabled medical implants. The average of deaths by smart meter radiation and smart meter fires is almost 100 every month in North America. #2 Did you know if your power company “turned off” the power to your home when they did a smart meter install, your chance of a smart meter fire increased by a factor of 10,000. #3 Your power company has access to all of you private power information. Eg When you make tea, when you turn on your alarm etc. This private information is sold to Google for huge sums of money. Ask your power company what the second radio transmitter in your smart meter does. (ZigBee) #4 A smart meter will cause cancer to return if your family members who are fighting cancer at home. If they come home from the hospital and sleep near a smart meter, they will die. Check with the US Cancer Society website. #5 Smart Meter RADIATION will turn off breakers in your home. Both AFCI's and GFI's get turned off by the radiation from the smart meter. #6 You smart meter is very accurate, BUT, the software (firmware) is programmable. Your bill has nothing to do with the power you use. #7 Smart meter radiation is breaking Ionic Bonding. #8 A huge expenditure for a huge loss. Billions of dollars to purchase something that does not general generate any power and each smart meter need 4 watts to operate. One million smart meters use 4,000 KILOWATTS of energy to operate. #9 The second radio transmitter is for ZigBee. If you want your power company to MONITOR your home 24/7, then you are in luck. Don’t forget, this private information will be sold. Why do you think your power company spends BILLIONS of dollars and does not generate one watt of extra power to sell?
The so called smart meters can only keep track of the amount of electricity in the power line, it will show you if there is a decrease which is either cause by damage or electricity stealing but it wont tell you which one it is however if you have enough smart meters you can pin point the location - That saod to steal electrity all you need is a cable made of an electricity conducting material (most metal are conductors) you attach it to a power line (dangerous since you can die from electric shock if not wearing the stuff that i wont tell you) and attach the other end to a battery or whatever electric device you want to power and thats it
Hello John Canadian LETS MAKE A NOISE - The slide to dictatorship and denial of democratic rights should be hugely concerning to every single citizen of Canada or the USA, no matter if they like microwave device smart meters or not.
Nice to see how level headed you are, that you have to revert to name calling when you are challenged. Yes, it can "monitor" when you turn things on and off, but the power company has been able to do that since the invention of electricity, you are blowing this out of proportion. Change is scary huh?
My electric bill almost tripled the month following the installation of a new smart meter. It was said to save everyone money. I am sure that it's saving the electric company a bundle.
To: Stepside1986,
If you can truly prove by showing years of past records of your usage during specific months of the year that the meter was reflecting improper usage, you can take them to court and win... It has been done!
Power companies don't give a f about customers health and it certainly did not save us money.
Remember when Nikola Tesla said he'll provide the world with free energy, but then a capitalist took the opportunity to make more money? yeah I still remember
waste of time video, zero info.
The so called smart meters can only keep track of the amount of electricity in the power line, it will show you if there is a decrease which is either cause by damage or electricity stealing but it wont tell you which one it is however if you have enough smart meters you can pin point the location
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That saod to steal electrity all you need is a cable made of an electricity conducting material (most metal are conductors) you attach it to a power line (dangerous since you can die from electric shock if not wearing the stuff that i wont tell you) and attach the other end to a battery or whatever electric device you want to power and thats it
Tusk u wear all rube boots and gloves and the Electricity should go through it that’s what u wear so stop people need to understand that they shouldn’t have the power to just turn people off like that
Like i said: I won't tell you what you need to wear. I won't say if you are correct or wrong, all i will is that: Its very dangerous not only because of electricity but because you can get caught. So you shouldn't do it unless your life depends on it.
Exactly😑
wow so informative..... not really.......
Neckcron I agree!
the old ways are still the best ways
make a jumper in the service entrance to your breaker box
use a 300 amp disconnect and a "bleeder" breaker to power the meter when you feel like you having a little free power (just remember to use the meter for real a little or they will figure out what you did)
Amen I can set it up where the power co. would have to send me a CHECK. HAHA
Any schematic?
This says nothing.
My electric bill doubled up for a single person and all my appliances are gas and my bill is $ 300 for this September, I was on phone with the company for 2 hours did not do anything refuse to sent an inspector to check to meter.
Having remote turn off would be risky as hackers could turn off hundreds or thousands of meters at once and the switch will be another failure point.
Though the tear down of one I saw there was no switching hardware in it just shunts and transformers.
It's not hard to inductively couple electricity to a side circuit that bypasses the meter completely. You can find example schematics easily on the web,
Most (if not all) utility companies pay no taxes while the government steals 1/3 of your wages. If someone can steal electricity, I say more power to em.
PUN INTENDED?
Unless there stealing yours!
"I can't prove one caused the other."
Lack of proof is not proof of lack.
I know that post is old but I love that saying. Something I prefer using against these news outlets
I have hackers...I was really upset about it for a long time. now I realized I couldn't be more thankful. so I plan on living a happy healthy life with them.everyone can change.
so my question is if your power is not yet off...and this of course is hypothetical...if you disconnect the blue and white will you essentially not rack up further charges
What would be the impact if syatem is hacked and more then million customers are out of power? If it can be done for one meter tgem one million meters can be disconnected.
I like that his examples are all about disconnecting and cutting people off. So many great feature he has.....
*opens trench coat*
Hey kids, want some volts?
They don't lose three million they just don't make three million
Maliciousfour20 did not take money from people that didn't have it
I guess if you go to work and you don’t get paid that would be good with you?
No one can lose something that was not in their prior possession.
And trust me on this one: The energy you and I pay for is not made of the sweat of honest men and women at the electricity factory. It is stolen. From nature.
Oil and coal, buried tens of thousands years ago now keep our climate cozy, ain't it?
Rivers dammed and mountain valleys flooded.
The company actually steals the energy from you, me, your kids and the rest of the living creatures on this planet and selling it back to us... for a mind boggling profit.
If you like math, check the numbers. How much it costs the company to produce one kilowatt and how much you pay for it.
Then try to find out how much cost's *you* for one kilowatt produced by the company.
Don't forget to add VAT.
;)
You are pretty much everything wrong with environmentalism. If you think electricity is "stolen" from nature (fucktarded concept), then stop using electricity and any products and services provided with electricity.
Oh yeah, I forgot engineering, research and development, property, construction, paying employees, where all free. With your thinking, farmers are stealing from you because the food is taken from the ground, Metals we use in our every day life like gold, silver, copper are all being stolen from us right? because no one is investing time, effort and money to produce those resources. Fuck it, honey is free, beekeepers are stealing from us by harvesting honey the bees produce and selling it right back to us!
How do. I find out if some one stole my electricity...?
All kinds of people are disconnecting their electrical/and or smart meters in Contra Costa county. PG&E has zero security measures & is intentionally facilitating this@ specific locations. They are no doubt receiving💲💰 in exchange for looking the other way. Most of the benefactors are Asains (Chinese) who need uncharted electrical consumption for clandestine activity.
I don't think any one is hacking into my rusted POS from the late 1980s
To: Mr Smith,
They won't let you keep it for long, and if you tell them that you won't let them exchange it for a smart meter when they want to they will charge you a penalty fee, and if you don't pay that they will turn off your electricity!
The only way to win is to somehow prove the smart meter is harming someone in the house,... Good luck with THAT!!
I'll call my Electric co and see exactly how and why this meter is better. I noticed all the installers used a protective suit. Not a good sign.
You'd wear (or would be asked by your employer to wear) that sort of equipment installing any kind of meter, smart or not, on large commercial or multifamily installations as seen in this video. We're talking about electricity here after all. As for why it's better, the utilities don't have to pay a bunch of folk to read every meter, which also eliminates inaccurate billing, and they can get live data whenever they, or the consumer, need an update, just to name a few benefits.
If electric meters are more efficient to read, why isn't my price gone down?
David Chambers
BTW, that was required safety gear so the workers family doesn't sue the company for so much it raises our price. It protects you!
It was save millions upon millions of dollars by getting rid of meter readers that had to walk into every yard with all kinds of hazards, let alone the house dog, and the insurance required.
Then the time it took to personally read every meter. And not raise the cost of electric. It may not have gone down, but it will be longer before it can go up.
Problem is, most large Power Companies probably laid off thousands of meter readers. Good for us but sucks for them.
As for remote turn off, the meter is not strong enough to do it from a localized location. They would have to drive down the street anyway. And even with the old meters, I could do that with parts from a normal home parts & pieces.
Ron Rold 4 ways to lower your electrical bill.
This is how your electrical company is going to save money and lower your rates.
#1 Installing smart meters is a HUGE INVESTMENT for the power companies. Remember your new smart meter is worth about $400 each and has to be replaced about every 10 years.
#2 The vast meshed network of other radio's and other communication facilities are needed to move the ton of customers private billing data.
#3 The huge new “billing” computer required to store all of this customer private billing data.
#4 The amount of additional power being stolen will double or triple because a smart meter can not detect an electrical bypass. The meter readers have now been fired and no longer will be doing the meter readings and looking for illegal power connections
The fact is; If I can't afford utilities, then I will reside in a place that will. What is more cost affective! I pay taxes so City Hall is good!
Just say NO, just say NO.
Kind of a misleading title, doesn't really describe how they do it. Yet again, I got to this video accidentally...
I’m a licensed electrician. I don’t recommend tapping into the grid. As far as friends going through hard times… I just tap the line before the meter. It’s undetectable . Dangerous. I wish everyone had an electrician friend.
I though this was going to be about people stealing AA batteries from the local Wal-Mart..
probably be fairly easy if a guy had one of those RF usb dongles (HackRF for example) and a little bit of knowhow.
Yeah...... until you start to figure out the private asymmetrical key
I hope everyone takes as much as they can get. Fuck the power companies
yes. Look up dipole and you'll see how it works. Wave hit both sides and AC voltage flows through both sides of the antenna. For something like an earth battery, half of the antenna is grounded. + in open air and - side in the ground. They're pulling 110 volts AC. So look up Earth Battery, and Dipole Antenna. I tried it and was getting under 50 volts but it takes copper to do it. Egyptians used lots of copper and they even had wireless electricity.
So how would you harness these radio waves in the air and put in a storage unit?
One simply needs a medium to large shovel and to stfu
@@MadNlGER and a pretty mouth like yours to stfu.
Why aren't the meters inside? Most homes in UK, not all, have their meters in a cupboard inside. Does this make it more difficult for others to steal your electricity? I know the home owner can still be duping the system but at least they can't say it was someone else!
WHO is getting the power turned off when the don't expect it? For the above reasons. How many are now sitting in dark cold houses because someone fooled with the meter? There is no reality here, don't waste your time.
Their coil? You mean just have a copper coil wire sticking up in the air we can harness the electrical power? Like how do that work?
What about these meters making US SICK?????
Can’t read anything if you tap into the line side before the meter…
Big brother is watching
If you have a smart meter get rid of it and go back to mechanical .
+Liberty309 Screw the white corporate world,go green and use solar power,no one to check your usages or inflate your power. The power company would be asking you for power.
they wont let you remove the smart meter, i drove around town and every single home i saw had a smart meter so everwhere you drive your bombaarded with this waves
white? what the fuck does white have to do with anything you stupid fucking shill - get a job keepskatin
Humberto Alanis Where we live they sent out a notice stating they were going to ‘upgrade’ our meter. Before they came out to install the smart meter. The day they came out to install it, a man knocked on our door and told us he was going to install it and we told him we didn’t want it. We also printed a piece of paper, (which we water-proofed), and attached it to our meter, that stated no smart meter zone. After we told the man this, we seen him call on the phone and was on the phone for about 7-10 min before he left.
so how exactly can hackers steal electricity (video title)?
radiation? What do you mean by that?
Until they steal your identity.
If you can do it, I say go for it.
I think there was a script in kali linux designed to mess with power meters
Please link proof of this happening. Thanks
If you want to steal electricity, you need only a relay....so you can't get caught! :D
And the bloody city does not let u install a windmill becasue it makes the neighbourhood ugly
Just in case you missed it 1:28 . Write to tables, which changes the configuration why would a company will be allowed to do this? $$$$ thiefs and aren't hel accounted for.
They also lose about 50% of their total output just by its transmission across the power lines.
Transmission losses are only about 4% to 6% depending on how far the house/meter is to the generating station.
@@unclebuild8480that’s not transmission bud. That’s distribution- sub to home. Transmission is generation to sub …
This makes me SICK! Electricity should be FREE!
+Jan Coldwater Don't depend on white greed. Buy solar panel and mini wind turbines and tell the electric company to shove it.
If you want it to be free, go achieve nuclear fusion, or shut up and pay.
And the power stations should be built for free, and the fuel should be provided for free, and the workers should work for free, and the grid should be maintained for free, and...
Your comment is ridiculous what you want to WORK FOR FREE apparently you have very little understanding what the process is to bring electricity to customers and maintain power
Keepskatin White GREED your comment is ridiculous you are most likely BLACK and you get Public Assistance so I can play the RACE CARD TOO it's thinking like yours that hold people down and by the way BITCH I'm not white
Ah we shouldn’t have “meters” in the first place
Why?
Yes electricity should be given for free to you cause you're special. Do you even know how electricity is made and how many people are needed to keep power lines and power stations running?
I see CNN. I dislike. I move on.
I see a NAZI, I find your personal accounts, build evidence against you and submit it to your Company that you work for. Next time use a VPN dick
Just tap the line side before the meter.
I have my power in my backyard above I called them spoke with them told them I wanted it Underground why should I have to pay to have it install underground they should do it.
The best hack was when they switched PM to AM. And it went on for months!
(Over 3 years BC Hydro found 1500 electrical diversions and recovered $5 million.) Grow ops are responsible for all of the bypasses in BC. Good thing we got smart meters, but wait. The most common mode of theft is meter bypass and that is not detectable by smart meter systems. Meter readers always make a visual inspection of meters and overhead systems.
What would happen if you built a faraday cage around your smart meter?
Tesla be stealin all the power
The "deployment" of smart meters, sounds like they are preparing an attack!
They are. On our health and privacy.
People can charge batteries or capacitor banks with their coils.
Because I work during the day, sleep during the night most of my activities are during 'peak' time.
I don't want to cook my dinner at midnight, I don't want to have to wash during the weekend (my only time for relaxation).
I don't want to have to wait until 2am in the morning before I can switch my tv and dvd on.
I'm generally not at home during off-peak times so why would I want to run my air-conditioner then?
It's cheaper to travel by rail on the weekend (off-peak), well great, just a shame I work Monday to Friday like the majority of people.
The introduction of a 'smart-meter' regardless of what any agency says will end up costing me more money than what it does now.
Def Head
Well said.👍
Sad part is that, peak power is a myth. It doesn't actually cost a power company any more money to start up another turbine/generator. Peak power is just a way to scam people out of their money.
Def Head : So buy some batteries, an inverter/charger and a timer... charge them in the "off-peak" times and use it like normal.... Ride a fucking bike to work and stop ya fucken bitching!!
David Ramsey : It actually has nothing to do with bringing up another turbine, there is one sitting there spinning anyway and that energy is sent to load resistors that waste it to heat 24/7... that's to ensure there is surplus power available so they can maintain voltage under high demand transients. They can't just "bring up another turbine" that weighs thousands of tonnes and then bring it into synchronicity in an instant. There are REAL concerns when it comes to the distribution network, look up capacitive reactance, reluctance and impedance. Educate yourself instead of making wild assumptions and just running with that.
You probably switch all your lights off for "earth hour" every year too... Do you know that when the grid "suffers" a massive off-loading like that of a couple of hundred thousand people all turning shit off at once the power companies to take action to keep the turbines from speeding up and the 50/60Hz going off the Richter??? What do you reckon they do?? "Just turn a coupla turbeens orf"???
Where do you reckon all that power goes??
To: Def Head,
Your statement that, in the end a smart meter will cost you more money, doesn't make ANY sense!!,
the smart meter is going to read the same usage of kilowatt hours as the old analog meter, no matter what method is used for reading it they are still going to get the same numbers and you will still be charged for the same amount of kilowatt-hour usage regardless of the type of meter used to record the usage.
@@derangedmetalworks9489 most power companys buy the electricity from others, its actually quite similar to stock exchange.
So you are not the electric company but you can go into the meter anytime, anywhere and see what’s going on or turn it off. What is to stop a hacker from doing the same thing?
Why would a hacker want to do that? How about for kicks, to steal power (mask their use and make it seem like the person they choose is using the energy and this make them pay the bill), revenge.
The old way allows the electric company to turn on off the power from their office, you can see when your power has been hacked into. Usually it is a neighbor and you can follow the cable to their home. These meters allow someone from miles away to steal your power and you have to pay for it while you dispute the bill.
Auntie M : It simply doesn't work that way. The best you could do is reprogram your own smart meter to change the tariff so you pay less for your own power until you get caught.
To: Auntie M,
You misunderstand, there is no way hacking a smart-meter can allow someone from "Miles away" or even next-door to steal your power without using wires to do so, and a smart meter will neither help nor hinder that.
To: Auntie M,
That is not how the system has EVER worked, even back many years ago, they could not turn your electricity off "From the office", they would have had to send someone out to connect or disconnect you somewhere outside your house.
Even now, someone has to come out within range (several hundred feet) of your smart meter to send it a signal to turn off the electricity to your house.
They still can't turn it off "From the office",
but it IS coming to that soon!
it is an already known 50 years old method: use magnets!
that doesnt work on digital meters
The real thiefs are the company's themselfs
I just used to use a car battery :/
Please link proof of this happening.
The utility Companies survived very well for a 100 years with analog meters . They didnt like the fact that the consumer could alter it , turn it upside down etc. Now with the smart meters we can no longer mess with the meter as well as there no longer is an analog wheel and dials that documents the usuage . so now the power companies can fudge with those numbers all they want. Is the average home owner ever going to catch an $.25 cent extra usuage on their bill? not very likely and how would they even prove it . So when i power company does shit like that say times 2 million monthly customers do the math thats $500,000 they just stole from us when nobody even noticed or can prove a thing. Think i am wrong? I am so telling the truth it makes my stomach turn
Absolutely right
Is he telling us how to or how to prevent
The smart meters are big brothers inside of our houses and know exactly what we're doing when we're doing it how we're doing it when we're home when we're away what we're doing when we're home they are horrible never mind the RF frequency coming off of it
It only takes one wire live to live powers on
Electricity is free, we don't have to pay for it. We can get it free naturally from radio waves in the air.
How ?
People wouldn't steal power if power companies had some humanity. My electric is off cuz the previous tenant didn't pay their bill before they died. I called to get it turned on again in my name and PECO said they had to do an investigation to make sure I'm not associated with the previous tenant and it takes a minimum of 3 business days... I have to have my kids stay at my in laws cuz PECO doesn't care that I have a 5 year old on a breathing machine all they care about is getting their bill paid by a dead guy that I have never met before.... Wtf. My landlord lied and said utility bill is included in rent but didn't tell me it meant just water bill until the day after I move in the power gets shut off...
FACT: What they will not tell you.. Electric generating turbines have been installed in water pipes everywhere. The water AND power companies are very, very combined with each other. One flush of your toilet will power a light bulb for a whole year. Electric companies are also deeply invested in solar power companies! Also gas companies! BASICALLY anything that can be used for power is property of the power company! Free power is everywhere, but they are to greedy to share...
left out the how part
A good way to reduce your power bill is to find another way to produce your own power, separate from the power company. Everyone should educate themselves on how to do this. There are many methods. Wind turbines, Earth battery, solar photovoltaic, solar thermal electric, RF coil to electric, and a whole lot more types of power harvesting and absorbing and converting schemes exist out in the web and other places. You all have to consider for yourselves which one or more of them is it going to be worth it for you to do, make, and to start to produce your own power. WELL, DON'T. JUST SIT. THERE LOOKING. AT THAT SCREEN, GET AFTER IT !!!
To those who hate the utility companies, get your neighborhood to go in together on pallets of solar panels and wind turbines in bulk. Go off grid. It's not that hard. The hard part is realizing how much electricity you are actually using (ungodly amounts).
How are you gonna call it criminal when it's our energy stealing
They aren't on your internet connection... lol
Typical controlling in the USA
HOW ? ? Do they use ESP to read old meters? Please explain how an old meter will tell the power company when your alarm system is turned on. We are all waiting for this explanation.
These meters have microwave radio frequency transmitters that at programmed intervals of time they send out short digital information bursts OVER THE AIR that are coordinated by the on-board computer with the other meters from other customers so that the central office can collect the data from them all in an organized and safe manner. Each unit varies the RF energy outputs for this data transmission to the air because they are all at different distances from the central office receiving station so the ones closer don't need to be so hot and the ones further away need to transmit hotter.
When people, wanting to protect themselves from clearly dangerous ionizing data burst Radio Frequency radiation, and they wrap it in aluminum foil, or a grounded "faraday cage" ,the device can sense this as it measures the broadcast power and compares it with recorded power pulses of the past at that same location, then it now has to turn up the transmission power for the data pulse, so that the reciever can log the data,, MAKING IT WAY MORE DANGEROUS THAN IT WAS without the aluminium foil on it. There are people who have sued the power company for health reasons and won settlements because of the dangerous nature of these data pulse microwave radio frequency radiation that these things can put out. Then, people, usually fear mongers, knuckle dragging troglodytes ,apparently not having any basic understanding about radiant energy (maybe they never were next to a fire-- I don't know) start to freak out about the dangers of electric meters data pulse transmitters being dangerous, when what really IS dangerous are stupid people doing stupid things, thinking that they are empowered with knowledge of how to protect themselves from harmful radiation when what they do IS JUST. THE. OPPOSITE ......Please leave the meters alone. If you have concern about the placement of RF emanating devices that you feel are too close to where you live, CONTACT YOUR. POWER. COMPANY OFFICIALS. Despite being regulated by the FCC in terms of output, still I've seen some that have been quite mismanaged as to location and necessary power output for them to be received at the central office to tally up charges.
There are over-the-air RF radiant energy meters and detectors that you can buy online fairly cheep.
Blessings
I learned nothing from this
Hack all the meters to get them to stop counting. FREE POWER FOR EVERYONE
We try to steal from them,they steal from your pocket.....vicious circle never end.But I can tell You will lose always no matter if right or no.
Where's the how ?
...thanx for referring people to my channel though. Plausible deniability is rendering itself obsolete.
They can't really monitor power the same way you do water or other goods, which is why they use a meter to track your usage.
You can get all the volts you want, if you have almost no current that amount of power is useless
They can do that now with normal meters and monitoring power. Ciao.
utilities should be free for everyone it's crazy something under the ground were paying for I speak for everyone
So it's not a how they do it but more of a they do indeed do it. Change of title is needed.
I need better instructions
They dont want to be left in the dark period lol
It's all "A circus of values!" Just get a few solar panels a month and grow your own production till you don't need them anymore. One 80 to 120 watt PV panel per month is cheap and affordable and before long you will gain enough power to run MUCH of the things in your house. It will however show you just how much power you are wasting very quickly. Lights actually don't take much power at all to run if you switch to LED. When you get to about 1KW, things start getting easier.
Thank u
Tell that to Duke Energy
you know those bass speakers you hate playing that rap music, get one thats blown out and remove the large magnet of the back, it take a bit of work without cracking the magnet, have another small magnet to figure the draw, place the large magnet in front, firmly against the meter, and just suck out the info including the software thats in it, hahaha, and FU to the electric co
Let's look at why we need TIN FOIL HATS.
#1 A smart meter will hurt or even KILL disabled homeowners who have disabled medical implants. The average of deaths by smart meter radiation and smart meter fires is almost 100 every month in North America.
#2 Did you know if your power company “turned off” the power to your home when they did a smart meter install, your chance of a smart meter fire increased by a factor of 10,000.
#3 Your power company has access to all of you private power information. Eg When you make tea, when you turn on your alarm etc. This private information is sold to Google for huge sums of money. Ask your power company what the second radio transmitter in your smart meter does. (ZigBee)
#4 A smart meter will cause cancer to return if your family members who are fighting cancer at home. If they come home from the hospital and sleep near a smart meter, they will die. Check with the US Cancer Society website.
#5 Smart Meter RADIATION will turn off breakers in your home. Both AFCI's and GFI's get turned off by the radiation from the smart meter.
#6 You smart meter is very accurate, BUT, the software (firmware) is programmable. Your bill has nothing to do with the power you use.
#7 Smart meter radiation is breaking Ionic Bonding.
#8 A huge expenditure for a huge loss. Billions of dollars to purchase something that does not general generate any power and each smart meter need 4 watts to operate. One million smart meters use 4,000 KILOWATTS of energy to operate.
#9 The second radio transmitter is for ZigBee. If you want your power company to MONITOR your home 24/7, then you are in luck. Don’t forget, this private information will be sold. Why do you think your power company spends BILLIONS of dollars and does not generate one watt of extra power to sell?
The so called smart meters can only keep track of the amount of electricity in the power line, it will show you if there is a decrease which is either cause by damage or electricity stealing but it wont tell you which one it is however if you have enough smart meters you can pin point the location
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That saod to steal electrity all you need is a cable made of an electricity conducting material (most metal are conductors) you attach it to a power line (dangerous since you can die from electric shock if not wearing the stuff that i wont tell you) and attach the other end to a battery or whatever electric device you want to power and thats it
Hello John Canadian LETS MAKE A NOISE - The slide to dictatorship and denial of democratic rights should be hugely concerning to every single citizen of Canada or the USA, no matter if they like microwave device smart meters or not.
Nice to see how level headed you are, that you have to revert to name calling when you are challenged. Yes, it can "monitor" when you turn things on and off, but the power company has been able to do that since the invention of electricity, you are blowing this out of proportion. Change is scary huh?
I've never met another Rational Mastermind INTJ and I am not interested in what the others do with themselves.
Let me guess steal electricity with super computer magnics or solar power lmao
The smart meters are one of the best utility improvements to ever come along. It can give you information as how to save money on the electric bill.
yeah the meter readers and guys out in the field doing disconnects have way more free time im sure
Good on them ! =)