Stinson 108 Review - A little talk about the differences and how it flies
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- čas přidán 6. 12. 2020
- I get a lot of questions about the Stinson 108. It's a plane I quickly fell in love with and will probably keep as a personal craft till I'm not longer a pilot... unless I somehow get a 180HP Super Cub. I made this video to give a simple overview of the 108 series, the differences between the models and why I fly the Stinson 108-2. I am new to the Stinson world and am not an expert, though I have little experience flying small airplanes so I can probably give an educated opinion. This is a little different video and part of out reviews series. Hope you enjoy.
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What a great video about the Stinson 108 series aircraft. We purchased a 108-3 Super Stinson (C-FBPX) back in 2008 and flew it across Canada as part of the Century Flight group summer of 2009 to celebrate 100 years of powered flight in Canada. Everywhere we went people would come out to see and admire the Stinson 108-3. It definitely stirs a lot of emotion in old time pilots. Many pilots that flew with me and put there hands on the controls remarked about how light on the controls the plane was and the saying that "if you can fit it in the airplane, you can fly with it" is pretty much true. We currently are flying a Cessna T-210 equipped with a Robertson STOL kit on it and it is like driving a bus compared to the ease and response of the Stinson. The Stinson will forever hold a special place in our hearts whether we own one or not.
I sure love the 108 and it holds a spot in my heart. Thanks for watching.
Got my first chance to conduct a flight review for somebody in their Stinson 108-1 today. I was incredibly impressed with how docile and easy to fly it was.
It is a great flying plane. Was it a -3 or a small tail? They are different flying airplanes I'm kinda surprised they allowed them under the same type certificate.
@@GreatMichiganBushCo Looking at pictures I’m pretty sure it was the small tail but I’m not a entirely sure😂
My Dad had a Stinson Station Wagon (N4082C), large tail version with the wood interior. We made several trips in the early 60’s to the Daytona 500 from West Virginia. We draped a tarp over the wing and camped out in the tie down area. The airport was right beside the race track. Those are wonderful times I will never forget.
It's the perfect airplane for underwing camping. I really love the 108. Thanks for sharing!.
Thanks for this! Great content on Stinson 108 models!
Glad you liked the information.
i havbe had my 108-3 since 1972 paid 1500 for it. flew it for many years till i parked in the hanger for about 20 years. thenhad it recovered engine overhauled and flew it for a few more years then parked it again, once again had the franklin over hauled( i have a couple of spares) fabric is fine paint is stiull good but it has been hangered all its life but it is one of a few planes i have flew it up here to washington state 6 years ago from calif. buti also have a 421 cessna and a 182 that is going away. so back to using my stinson for sight seeing. it is a great lil affordable airplane passed its annual 2 months ago with flying colors lol now it isn the radio shop getting some fancy radios. i love that lil plane has always been dependable super easy to fly. and a great off airport plane,i wont sell it for love or money. my dogs like it i fy it to canada just north of me for some wild fishing trips, i am the worlds worst fisherman that ever lived. but that lil plane is fun and safe and like i said super easy to fly.
It is a super fun simple plane to fly. Push in the black know it goes up, pull out the black knob it goes back down.
Great summary. Thanks for explaining the differences between the various versions. My Dad bought and restored a 1948 108-3. It was a great cruiser. I remember that wood paneling in the back..
I think it is a great airplane and your love of this machine shines through,I learned a lot from you about the different models.
Thanks for watching. I'm glad you learned something.
Great vid. I bought a rebuild 108-1 and flew it around Ontario. Did a couple of trips from CYTZ down to the Bahamas and back. Loved landing it with a stiff wind straight down the runway. Bring her in pretty much like a helicopter. In the practice area in a stiff wind, head her straight into the wind and fly backwards over a point.
Great video. I’m looking at buying one now and this video helps me a lot!
Glad to hear it!
Great video on the 108. My dad had a 1946 108 back in the 1970's, and it handled just like you said. At altitude you could stall it, and the plane would just oscillate down and back up. Love your videos it puts back in the Stinson again.
That's awesome. The 1970's were the golden age of general aviation for a short period of was mainstream.
Yeah to Eddie Stinson !!!! I like the "oldness" and simplicity. Thanks, Scooter.
Right on! I understand that sentiment.
Thank you.
This is helpful. I'm considering a purchase right now.
Cheers!
The -2 it's the cream of the crop and when Stinson got it right... well except those dinky fuel tanks.
Awesome plane ! Thanks for this video .
I want a 108-2 eventually
Thanks for watching! And don't hesitate to purchase the Stinson. You'll never regret it.
Great review i learned a lot.. i still have my grandpa’s 108 user manual he had a 108 that he bought new and commuted from work in Chicago to Wisconsin’s north woods where he landed in cow pasture or JFK Memorial Airport in Ashland. unfortunately the plane was burned by vandals in Chicago. Id pay good money for a ride in a 108 up there in Wisc North Woods!
Your video is spot on, Scooter. Love my big ugly tail dash 3. I've never flown the small tail, but I have heard that they like to hunt, as you mentioned. The dash 3 flies "straight as a Stinson arrow", but can be a handful in a crosswind.
I've really like that I've had the opportunity to fly both tails. It's a very good example of not getting a free lunch. For every gain in one area there is a loss in another.
I Have a dash 2 as well. Bought it for all the reasons you mentioned. A great airplane that can haul two big guys, and lots of gear for hunting or fishing, Or 4 folks for traveling. With a climb prop it gets right off the ground. Next on my upgrade list, will be some Alaska Bushwheels. Great video.
The -3 is probably a more practical airplane with the increased gross weight and more fuel. The -2 land so much nicer I'll keep it... my wife can sell it when I'm dust in the wind.
Great job on the 108....great finish with the blooper :-)
Thanks and thanks for watching.
Great video, I loved it! About all I knew about Stinsons was the viral video of that dude crashing one into the trees at high DA. Glad to see they are great planes!
I'm glad I could give a new perspective on the plane.
I fell in love with the 108 as a kid reading a book titled “Fly It Away”. I’ve never been in one but I’ve always wanted to fly a 108. If you’re ever down Houston way, I’ll buy the avgas for a ride
There are Stinsons down in the Houston area. We had a family friend who owned a Stinson when I was a kid. I never had the chance to fly in it but now I wish I had. They are a great airframe and if you get the chance take one for a flight.
Beautiful aircraft and great video!
Thank you. Glad you enjoyed.
What a great job you did with this video!!!! If I can get my medical back I definitely would like to be a Stinson owner😁
There used to be a few flying here in Colorado, but 180’s took over. I flew the 108-3, loved it!
There are still some out there. The 180 is nice but all metal with a thirsty engine and high hourly operating costs.
@@GreatMichiganBushCo I agree
My 108 no dash is awesome! You're absolutely right on using rudder and the plane hunting for direction especially on power setting changes. I've found the sweet spot on rudder trim and cruise power where I'm able to fly hands off for hours.
You must have upgraded to a larger engine on your no dash if you have rudder trim. The 108's are such a fun airplane to fly..
@@GreatMichiganBushCo No sir. Just the bendable metal tab on the rudder.
Great video on a aircraft I knew little about...subscribed
Thanks for the sub!
Nice video. Thanks for sharing the information.
Thanks for watching the video. I wouldn't do it if anyone was watching.
Learned a bunch. Good job.
Thanks for watching
The Stinson 108-3 is a good old stock airplane; take out the old Franklin and put in a Continental 0470 with constant speed prop and you have a great airplane
I put a Lycoming 0360 in it. With the 40 gallon tanks and 9 and 1/2 gallon fuel burn I like it better than the continental. Climbs out at a humble 1500 feet a minute.
Great video ! Thank you !
Thanks for watching. Hope it was enjoyable and educational.
I got out of the army in 69…wanted to fly. Bought a beautiful aluminized dash 3 Station Wagon from Fritz S. In E Lansing. Was at Art Davis field and loved the experience. Flew all grass fields….some golf courses. Enjoyed it about 3 years till I got a job where I had to be there on Monday! Great airplane, easy to fly, roomy interior….. what do you want for $3500? Hope it’s still flying…. 775C.
It looks like it's registered in MN and was flying in 2019... She's a survivor. Flying the gold course's! I want to land on one of those, by choice not forced. Glad you enjoyed the 108.
Excellent video, I feel smarter now... thanks!
Thanks for watching. I never thought I could make someone smarter. Normally after talking with me folks lose a little intelligence.
Haha I doubt that! My friend owns a 108 and I didn’t know really anything much about it until now. Thanks!
Outstanding video Scooter. I leaned a lot about the Stinsons.
As a Bell 47 king you must know a lot more than me about the Franklins.
@@GreatMichiganBushCo Only enough to be dangerous. I had a later Model Bell with 260 Hp Lycoming.
Good video! Thanks
Another great video. I love my 108. I live in Alaska now but I am from Michigan. We moved 8 years ago for the full experience, flying, fishing, hunting, camping, working. Skis go on in a week or so. We drove 11 hrs each way to Anchorage to pick up a set of Federal 2500's. Cant wait for the new off airport experience of skis.
I would love to fly the 108 off skis. We just don't have enough snow in southern Michigan to make them remotely practical. A set of wheel through skis would work..
@@GreatMichiganBushCo Pretty much every airport has a ski strip. Even international in Fairbanks has a ski strip. I am in Manley Hot Springs, we turn a taxi way into a ski strip. Friends have cabins on remote lakes where its floats in summer and skis in the winter. I'm a new pilot and all in with my buddy's who have been flying for decades.
@@jondyer7052 Have fun doing the ski flying, I'm jealous. If I lived 150 miles north of here I'd run them. The skies give you a bunch of off field opportunity. Down here most large enough lakes to fly off of don't freeze till early to mid January and thaw by early March. We just fly them off the lakes with larger tires for the couple of weeks they are frozen. I'll make a video this winter if the lakes freeze.
@@GreatMichiganBushCo I am from the Ann Arbor area, where are you located?
@@jondyer7052 Out of Troy, MI
Awesome video! I love 108’s a family member and of mine has a 108-3 and I’m going to be getting my license in it some day!
Get your certificate in the 108. Not many peoples first solo are in a tailwheel.
Definitely really want to get it in that airplane!
Good job Scooter!!
Thank you.
The Stinson…. The reason I’m deaf today.
Like flying a jackhammer in the days before we wore headsets and had intercoms. Just an overhead speaker and hand held mic.
I was doing that in a Piper Colt back in 1896. The old days were hard on the ears.
@@GreatMichiganBushCo ….. What???
@@GreatMichiganBushCo …😂
What in the world were you flying in 1896? haha. Just kidding, obviously a typo.
But just to elaborate a bit further on that, because so many younger pilots today have no idea about this. It wasn’t just the Stinson of course, NONE of the general aviation aircraft had intercoms and headsets back in the day. Younger pilots and new pilots especially, take their Bose noise cancelling headsets for granted! But many years before everyone all of a sudden seemed to come into money, and buy Bose when they first came out for $1,500 a headset, we were wearing David Clark’s which were the best. I remember scraping my money together and finally buying my first David Clark headset, for $250. But then you had to buy a portable intercom as well…🙄… That was in the mid 1980’s. But before that for years, since the late 70’s, headsets just weren’t a thing yet, in any general aviation aircraft rentals. All aircraft was hand held mic and speaker on cabin, usually cranked in order to hear it. Who can forget those days eh? Decades before GPS and even before LORAN. But we had ADF! 😳…haha.
Of and I almost forgot another modern luxury taken for granted. Back lit gauges in the panel. Uh, No. There just wasn’t any back then. We had the crappy red light overhead, that even all full blast kept the panel in shadows and hard to see. Not to mention reading your map while dead reckoning. All those magenta lines disappear under a red sone light. 🙂.
But those things were all general aviation planes. The reason for my original comment was that I used to rent a Stinson on a regular basis, back in the early 80’s. I was also renting 172’s of course, and even 182’s, along with Archers, Arrows etc. etc..
But the Stinson was SO MUCH louder than any of the others, it was like night and day difference. That one particular Stinson was the only Stinson I ever flew, but I have a LOT of time in it. I rented it because it was cheaper by the hour and that particular aircraft went by tach time instead is Hobbs meter like the others. So the savings per hour were significant.
Looking back on it, I don’t know if perhaps there was something not quite right with the exhaust headers or something, but it was twice as loud as a 172 or more. It was a Stinson voyager. Absolutely the loudest aircraft I’ve ever flown, hands down. Besides that, it was a decent airplane. Just extremely old, even at that time. And it had the old original panel in it, no upgrades at all. But again, it was a nice little plane except for the sound of 2 jackhammers running 2 feet in front of me the entire endurance of every flight. Before that for a time I flew an original Aeronca Champ. And I had flown the Piper Cub as well, which reminds me of a funny story. After having flown the Champ for quite a while, of course, I felt like I “needed” to fly a Piper Cub because I was missing out on something.. Lol
Long story short, (this was in the later 1970’s) the Aeronca you solo’d from the front seat, (tandem seating one in front one in back, both positions with a stick) the Piper Cub, you solo’d from the back seat. As a solo pilot, before my PPL was obtained, well, I was enjoying the Cub, but hated sitting in back. While in flight, I proceeded to climb over the back of the front seat, in order to get up front, like the Aeronca. Dumb kid, yea I know! Well in climbing over, my pants (think bulky bell bottoms here) hooked onto the throttle, and put it to idle. My legs were in back, my torso was in front, my head down by the seat bottom and the aircraft slowing down pitched down towards the ground! Lol (it wasn’t LOL at the time!). I finally got some throttle on, and finally got my 6 foot tall body over the back of the front seat, and actually into the front seat! Wow… Long story short, I flew about an hour or so and realized I’d now have to climb back into the back seat before landing, since you had to solo if from the back. I’m thankful to say climbing into the backseat was uneventful, and I slid into Beverly airport (Massachusetts) under the then called TCA airspace of Logan international.
Sorry for the long comment, I haven’t thought of that in many years so thought I’d share it.
Needless to say, but I never again solo’d a Cub from the front. 🙂
Lastly: I think so much these days is being lost in aviation. It’s so different than it used to be, and new pilots are being trained differently. All these modern avionics make navigation so simple a monkey could do it, and while that’s nice and perhaps good for safety, I think new pilots are missing out on a lot. And I also think we’re training pilots today, without the skills that used to be required. I seems with navigation and situational awareness so absolutely simple these days, all the hours we spent mastering the complexities of instrument flight, doing it all long hand, well, the hours saved by not having to have those skills it seems could be spent on training Nee pilots more stick and rudder work, and getting their head off the panel and onto outside the aircraft. As odd as it sounds, I’ve flown with some new pilots who can’t seem to even fly VFR anymore, as crazy as that sounds. And I think that’s not only a problem, because instruments DO fail, but it’s also a shame in a way IMO. I mean sone of the cubs and Aeronca’s I used to fly, didn’t even have a radio in them. But in those days, we were taught to be able to tell by feel, many things that are taught by numbers today. Approaching stall speed etc.. or slips to landing comes to mind. And rudder work with conventional gear has to be good, or as you know you ground loop. Anyhow, perhaps some of it is me looking those rose colored glasses at the past, but I do see a real lack of needle ball and airspeed flying by new pilots these days. And that’s to bad.
Again, sorry for the long comment, but thanks for the memories. Enjoy your Stinson!
And wear that headset! 😉👍
Love the 108 great video hope to fly with you sometime.
All you need to do is shown up.
Thank you for such a great informational video. Looking to upgrade from a 140. Need more useful load
It will haul a lot of stuff and give you a little more speed than the 140. Should be a great upgrade.
@@GreatMichiganBushCo Do you happen to know if the Franklin 150 engine is bad or people just have to know how to maintain it? I spoke with an older fellow from my local airport and he said he had a Stinson loved everything except the Franklin engine. I’d love to know your take on it
I may end up buying my old banner tower!
there is the L5, which is an excellent starter warbird. Love all the 108s.
I know a guy rebuilding an L5. Looks like a nice little bird.
@@GreatMichiganBushCo Years ago I gave a guy his tailwheel endorsement in one he rebuilt. Had a blast flying it.
Did any of the Stinsons see any military work? Btw, love your videos. Keep them coming 👍
Not that I am aware of the Stinsons that was military work are the L5 and L9's as far as I am aware.
Great mountAin aeroplane!
I hope it is While I've had it in the Smokies, I hope to bring it to the Rockies soon!
Enjoyed the video,well done! I've got a Taylorcraft BC12D and thinking about switching to a Stinson. Was wondering about cabin size, can 2-3 adults fit comfortably?
Threw fit well both in room and weight. You can get 4 in there with fuel and still be under gross
Very interesting and well done video. How long were the Stinsons made?
The 108 was made from 46-48, there were other models before. The Detroiter was the first commercial aircraft with brakes. The Stinson company was an early innovator in aviation... then Piper took over.
Great video, Scooter. We have what we call a Dash 2, but it's actually a '47 Dash 1 that's been converted with the 1/2" fuel lines, 165 Franklin, and rudder trim. I love the way it flies. So light on the controls compared to other vintage planes. The lateral 'hunting' did take a little getting used to at the beginning, but we don't even notice it any more. Wonderful flying machine.
Thanks for watching! You need to come out and fl with us sometime!
Call it the slash 2!
So i was talking to my A&P and he was saying that the 108s sit in the lower price range due to tending to needing more work when annual comes around than something like a Pacer. Also noticed sitting in the 108 is like sitting in a truck i felt short very short compared to a pa-22/20
It doesn't cost more at annual if well kept. The Franklin can be costly if not properly well maintained. Keeping it running correctly doesn't cost a lot fixing it when you didn't can. The 108 is a truck, put some bigger tires on and it even get better.
Q,for smaller frame Pilots,are the pedals fairly close to the seats ,if their all way forward..had to ask...108-2,3 wud b good for me..kinda hunting for one this summer.. hopefully
The pedals are fairly close. Longer leg pilots have modified the seat to Go back further because the legroom can be a little lacking for someone who's over 6 ft tall. Good luck in the hunt for a Stinson!.
Are there any neat hill tops or sand bars to land on in Michigan that you've found?
I'm in West Michigan and I live vicariously through Trent Palmer's videos. The canyon flying, hilltop landing, STOL planes, and even the gravel sand bars on rivers he lands on are the stuff out of magazines.
Do you have an airplane? Watch our Facebook page or post a get together on our Facebook page and we'll go flying. I bet you'll have some fun.
@@GreatMichiganBushCo I do not have an airplane yet.
I'm actually just working on picking a flight school near me. I was trying to find sport pilot training in West Michigan, but it appears to be a dead end. I'll need to save a bit more and budget for a private pilot license.
I was hoping to find a flight instructor that taught tailwheel and off airport landings as well, but that is also a dead end so far.
Thanks for your videos!
@@realtormouser IMO you should look at the private pilot certificate you are a safer pilot going this route. Also finding an instructor to certify you in a tailwheel airplane will be tough unless you own it. Off field lands are a third stage of landing, first you need to learn to land, then you need to land short/soft then you move onto not breaking the plane through judgment when not on an improved runway. Off field training should probably be done after you learn the basics. Don't worry about the budget it takes some people years to complete training. While training you are flying an if you never start you will never finish. There is nothing financially sound about being s pilot :-)
If you take the headliner out does it give a lot more headroom? Is there something hard like a panel underneath the carpet
You could gain a lot of room overhead by removing the headliner and adding a sunroof.
Thank you, great info.
I’m looking at one for sale with floats and an O-435 rated at 190 hp, do you have any thoughts on that setup?
it's difficult to find parts for the O-435. Other than that I think the 108 would make a good float plane.
@@GreatMichiganBushCo ok thank you. He has a parts motor to go with it so maybe that would help.
Great video about the various models! I liked and subscribed!
Looks and sounds like a beautiful plane! I imagine maintaining them may require some specialty mechanics & parts being they were made in 46 or 47?
Thanks for the great video about your plane and experiences you've had flying the other models too!
What is max useful load in the dash 2 versus the other models that carry more?
The -2 is about 50-60 pounds heavier than the -1 and that's the weight difference. The -3 carries about 100 pounds more.
The fuselage reminds me of a Maule.
Yes. Old man Maule lived down the road from the Stinson factory. The Stinson 108 without doubt inspired much of the Maule design, with the early Maule's even having a Franklin engine as an option.
Thinking about picking up a 108-2 to rebuild it has been metalized but it is 9 less than one my late father owned just wondering if I should side-note I have my a and p
If you're rebuilding it doesn't have to stay metalized.
I’ve been watching a fews of your video
Very éducatif for me
I have a lots of time in super cub (thousand of hours)
I guided in Alaska for 34 years
Mostly on float
I want to get back in flying can’t afford a cub at the moment
I had little bit of time in a 108 back in the early80ies I don’t remember much
I leave on Kodiak
I am thinking of re building a 108-3 to put her on float
I can’t find a site to help
Have you been involve in that transition
Or know about it
I am the one which start typing yesterday
I am rebuilding
Safe flying in beautiful Michigan
Michel
The international Stinson Club is a great place to find information and people to help with a rebuild. There are also a lot Stinson flying in Alaska with people doing a lot of mods to them. Search Facebook for the Alaska Stinson group, you could probably find some northern contacts there. I am not sure if any are in the Kodiak area. Good Luck and thanks for watching.
The 108’s roll well! ;)
The 108 is a great plane to roll on. It 3 points well too. Just a docile airplane that makes okay pilots look good :-)
@@GreatMichiganBushCo Rolling as in aerobatic. They roll very nice...
@@BOPilot5517 I know. I was tossing you a softball. Unless you have an old no dash.
@@GreatMichiganBushCo -3
Originally I was looking at pacers because of how cheap they were (30k ish) but recently stumbled across the stinsons and they are roughly in the same price range. I guess the question now is how hard are parts to find? I have seen lots of people say the engines are tough to find parts for and just parts in general are hard to find?
The Internet had solved that problem. There are two parts suppliers that can get anything you may need and the airframe is still supported by Univair who is still makjng parts for this bird.
@@GreatMichiganBushCo Great to hear. Saw someone who couldnt find a left fuel tank so that raised an eyebrow for me. Hopefully I can join the stinson club in the next couple of years
Good video! what is the cruise speed of the Stinsons?
Around. 115-120mph seems right
What’s with that “Stinson stol” sticker behind you? Factory or after market STC?
Everyone's got a STOL kit. The Stinson came with slots so I just thought it needed a STOL sticker of its own.
Thanks for this, how would you compare to the Stinson 10A?
If you have one to fly I'd love to find out
@@GreatMichiganBushCo I do have one but she's definitely not air worthy. Going through a full restoration.
@@J5Jonny5 Let me know when your done. I'll take you up in mine and we can compare. Even make a video about it.
Excellent. Thanks for sharing. You're an expert to me! Would it make a better choice to learn how to fly compared to a Cessna 150? Beginner student here.
You would be a better pilot if you learned to fly in a conventional gear aircraft. You just need to find the instructor to take you on. There are instructors out there.
@@GreatMichiganBushCo Thanks for your input. Really enjoy your content.
@@GreatMichiganBushCo By conventional gear aircraft you mean like a Cessna 150 or 172?
@@Estebanserrano96 no a conventional gear aircraft has a tail wheel.
@@GreatMichiganBushCo Thank you!
You should fly to Frankenmuth!
I often do. If I'm there you'll find me at Skip's Hide-a-way.
What were you cranking on the cockpit ceiling?
That's the elevator trim.
What oil do you use in the Franklin? I was thinking 10W-40.
I use Aeroshell 100w plus. I don't think there's a 10w-40 aviation oil.
@@GreatMichiganBushCo The Franklin manual calls for 40 or 50 straight grade, but I don't think they had multigrade back then.
@@rusty358 W100 plus is 50 weight with an anti scuff additive. I preheat 45F and below. I'm definitely not running automotive oil.
I really looked at 103’s and the fabric and few Franklin parts scared me away from them. Otherwise they are good airplanes.
Fabric is easier to maintain than aluminum I find it funny how it scares so many people away. I think it's because the construction method is not as mainstream. The steel frame also provides for a tank of an airplane if you are looking for a backcountry airplane. The Franklin parts used to be difficult to find 10 or 15 years ago. Peoples connectivity was just not as good as it is today. There seems to be no problem finding parts today. The internet has helped out a lot. I even find posts from the early 2000's talking about parts scarcity and then they disappear as internet age moved mainstream.
I have an opportunity to purchase a 1946 108 (no dash) for $5000. It's mostly in pieces, needs paint and maintenance. 2000 TT. Would this be worth buying to fix up as a project, or possibly for selling parts? Any words of wisdom?
There might be 5k in parts. I find the time you end up investing in selling the parts a S&P 500 find returns better, in this market that might not be the case.
I really want to get into aviation would A 108 -2 be a good first plane?
It might be. If you trained in a tail wheel it sure would be
@GreatMichiganBushCo Life is too short too not pursue your dreams my dad loved aviation he's the one who got me into it all I know is I'm going go buy A plane I'm up here in Fairbanks Alaska I like the 4 seat set up of the stinson but A guy has A piper pa 22 for sale ready for the Bush.
What is typical empty weight for a 108?
It depends on the model -1,-2 and ,3 all came from the factory in the low 1300's but when weighed they seem to be 1400-1450.
Hi, Would you still recommend a -1 or -2 for someone with only has access to 100LL ? Thx!
Everyone has access to unleaded.
Great Michigan Bush Co. so do you store it at ur airport? I’ve read the Franklin doesn’t like lead. Some use an additive, constantly. They don’t have unleaded at airports around here eastern PA.
@@jbg7676 WE tanker it in 100 gallons at a time with a transfer tank. Guys use TCP lead scavenger additive and it helps out a lot but nothing beats unleaded as far as I am concerned. www.pure-gas.org/extensions/maps.jsp?statecode=PA
Great Michigan Bush Co.
What do you mean tanker it in? Do you rent a trunk and get it yourself or pay a tanker to fill your tank at hangar? Im assuming that’s what most Stinson owners do? I understand it’s at auto gas stations every where. but wasn’t sure if airports across the country have it readily available because it’s not at airports around here. I’m considering a -2 and trying to learn how owners solve this hurdle including while on a xcountry? Or do most just use 100 with TCP?
Thanks for feedback I def appreciate!
Always wanted to fly one.I'm 6'4". Would I fit?
I know someone that flies one. Some people say you can't, but I know a lot of guys over 6 foot who do..
Nice 108 isn't cheap over 100k isn't that in super cub price range?
I purchased this one for 1/4 that price and even as prices have skyrocketed in aircraft the 108 is still 40K or under. I have not personally known of a 108 with a Franklin selling for more than 40K... I've seen them listed that high but never one sold even close to that,
I am rebuilding
Awesome keep us updated in the progress
hell i do not know the difference in the way a straight 108 flies never flew one. you have a black knob? damn awful fancy i have a coat hanger thr the firewall. on a spring pull it out it goes down pull it out? and i think it goes up im too busy taking a nap.
Does that coat hanger have a part number?
So can you practice spin it or not?
With the flaps up. It's difficult to get spinning from what I understand. It quickly starts to spiral.