What's the deal with Renata Glasc? || League of Legends champion review
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0:00 Intro
02:27 The lore
13:46 Character design
23:14 Animation
30:25 The future
47:07 In conclusion
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I made a big dumb editing mistake and had to reupload this episode. D'oh! I hope you still enjoy it!
No need to worry, better to correct it asap instead of after everybody's finished up!
We will!!!
What was the mistake now? I'm curious 😂
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While i love the story of The End Of Glasc, i'm not sure i'd have gone with the "the drugs made her do it/excused her doing it" thing, i prefer her was Just Another Asshole... She knew what she was doing, and she did it because, well, "Wurf"
Hilariously enough, Renata being less conventionally pretty makes her more attractive to a lot of people. She is different and therefore appealing aesthetically. In conclusion: MOMMY YES!
I never liked the template Riot uses for its female characters. Renata is an excellent break from that
Based takes❤❤
I want to take mommy away and put it on a high shelf until people stop applying it to teenagers but here it is actually appropriate
Idk where to say this but I LOVE that she has long hair to show that no matter your age, long hair isnt just for young people and can look fabulous on older people!
Absolute milf.
The one thing I remembered about Renata so deeply, that her quote when she moving
"All my parents left me was my name. Now, it's worth millions"
From my point of wiew, that quote also show her deep love for her parents.
She doesn't change name through all life and in fact, she always points her name: Renata GLASC.
if the rich that destroyed her family bothered to remember their name well perhaps their fate wouldnt be as sealed as it is
@@zoesoundglave3897that's something that I kinda question does no one recognises her name? imagine some rich piltovan and their colleague discussing her products : Hey this products are so good where did you get them?"
:"Oh from someone called Renata glasc "
: "Hmmm glasc isn't that the last name of the two alchemists that we paid enforcers to kill 30 years ago because their medecines were threatening that we profet from zauns suffering and diseases so we burned their clinic could it possibly be that their daughter survived and possibly want to take revenge on us "
" Nah I am sure glasc is just a commen name "
@@miss.mirana4061 why would the rich remember the name of people they veiwed as just an obstacle to get out of the way
@@zoesoundglave3897 yeah I think this is why they don't remember her i doubt the glasc family were the first zaunites who tried to rise to power or tried to help zaun and piltover paied to kill them i mean Camille assassinat any chem baron/zaunite who tries to join piltover higher archy so yeah it's safe to assume that murdering Renata 's parents was just another Tuesday for them but it's still ironic to think about
Doesn’t she hate them though? Like a love/hate where she loved them, but hate them for being “weak”
One of the greatest things about Renata's storytelling, in my opinion, is despite the Jojo poses she feels very *real*. I grew up in a low income black household and I can't help but see the parallels between Renata and the myth of "black excellence". Someone who rose above their past material conditions and is looked up to, but ultimately does nothing to materially change systems that gave birth to the "person who made it" (think Obama or Beyoncé). And especially if I think about her the way a small Zaunite kid would, sure in reality she displaces hundreds of families and wrecks the environment, but I don't know that. All I know is that her medicine is why my grandmother is alive, her respirators are why I can go outside some days to see my friends, and in the future her employment is what will keep me from starving. Now there's no guarantee Riot sees her the same way, but currently the way she fits into the class struggle narrative of PZ makes for a bone-chilling yet compelling villian.
this is such a great perspective to have in viewing Renata…
I love that you said this because I relate to this exactly as a black dude from a poor family. What’s also interesting is that her relation to the community she came from now is purely transactional which also fits into the behavior of that group. (Sadly I know ppl like that irl)
Especially if they make an MMO an arc for Zon/Pil could be either a PVP zone where you side with Z/P and she ends up being a leader on the Z side
It's the talented 10 scam
Renata Glasc is always a character I point to about sexy characters vs sexualised characters. She's clearly designed to be attractive but that attractiveness comes from the same things as what we've come to expect from sexy male characters: her confidence, her sleek, expensive outfit, her experience, etc. She has a great body and a large chest, yeah, but the same way male characters can be built without being the focal point of the design. I'm pleasantly surprised with LoL for this and I hope this and the popularity of Mel, Sevika, Vi, and Ambessa from Arcane encourages more executives to allow their artists more variety in what's appealing. Like, I wish we were allowed more female characters who *aren't* meant to be attractive but hey, at least this is in the right direction
You mean she looks like a top?
In the reading I've done into social power structures, I came across one account that said that, in matriarchal societies, women are considered most attractive when they're in their 40s or so, since that's the point in life when they're most likely to be properly established and have a large amount of wealth, property and status. I feel that's definitely what the designers were going for with Renata.
I feel like there's nothing wrong with _every character being attractive,_ as long as they're still unique and their character isn't compromised for their attractiveness. A more important caveat is that if every female character has to be attractive (in some way), so does every male character.
@@PoisonFlower765 Personally, I think there is an issue with every character needing to be attractive because it's often an incredibly limiting view of what "attractive" is and ugliness has its place in art/design, but you're 100% correct that the issue is that all women have to be attractive but the men don't and often comes at the cost of character
@@Sootielove I'm not saying that every character _needs_ to be attractive, just that every character _can be_ attractive. There's a bit of a difference in the phrasing there. :)
What I like the most about Renata is how she doesn't fit visually with anyone. If we look at Zaunites, they are always more rough in clothing or appearance overall, while Piltovans are more geometrical and industrial. This creates a distinction. Looking at her, you can't put her in a box with anyone, which makes you always see her as special, different from everyone and as a result it compliments her story and her boss-like apppearence. You don't look at her and think she's important. You look at her and suddenly all others' designs fade into the background. The visible contrast makes her steal the spotlight, but contrary to likes of Seraphine, instead of making her out of place, it makes the place look out of her league.
I dont know how to describe it but despite renata not fitting into Zaun's aesthetic she also perfectly does(?!) Idk how to explain it but what I love about Renata is how she expands what Zaun's aesthetic can/could be while still somewhat fitting in
@@snqoqo
I totally get ya!
Out of her league of legends? You dumb bi--
I think it’s because you can see the aesthetics at work, just tweaked and morphed. Her tech still has that liquid tubes and glass vials feel of zaun tech and she wears white and uses gold in her tech like piltover. But the pink liquid sets it apart from green chemtech or blue hextech, and the black and pink accents and the face mask set her apart from the gold and white and blue piltover aesthetic. It’s a mix of their aesthetics with a heavy dose of her own flair added, mixing into something wholly different.
But she fits in with the Chem barons though
There are 3 skins Renata needs: Coven, Debonair, and Crime City. Her story and aesthetics fit all three of them perfectly
Hell yeah
Isn't her base skin basically a Crime City skin. Kinda like Yone base form is almost a Blood moon skin
If we don't get 'Coven Queen Renata Glasc' skin then Riot are actually losing their minds
Monster Tamer, Dragon Trainer, i feel like a creative angle they can do is give her Chemtech Decacanter a personality
I mean, that's just herself in a different story ? It doesn't really add anything to the narrative, and I feel like it would be boring. Not to say I wouldn't like it, but I would prefer if she was in, for example, Sugar Rush universe as the old lady that loves the shittiest candies and tries to give it to you.
One thing I love about her dance, is that by dancing with the decanter it actually humanizes her a good amount. It adds a touch of light-heartedness and whimsy that makes you feel like she's letting her guard down for a second. This isn't something she would do publicly, this is something she does by herself or with close friends only. It's the only animation where, under the mask, I think she's smiling.
considering her background i like to Imagine that as a child she used to imagine herself as a noble and would try to dance all fancy with her parents or a ragdoll yknow the vibe of a poor kid imagining themselves as nobility.
Renata is my #1 wishlist champion for Arcane. I would love for her to be the antagonist of Season 2. She's such a welcome addition to the cast already, Arcane fans would be sure to love her too.
No, I would like her part of the story. There to side who makes the best offer or if one attack other she goes in takes everything. It is not sitting on top but is to be on top. Cause mom and dad die cause of this, and they help other over our safety. She claw her way up.
The recent trailer uses a lot of a red pinkish color as the background, and I must say it reminds me of Renata's chemtech
so she's an antagonist for trying to burn down a city of rich people that oppresses zaunites for their own profit? with that logic sylas is an antagonist
@@lillyie The antagonist isn't always a villain. It's just the enemy of the protagonist.
Renata and Sylas ARE villains, though. Renata will gladly ruin Zaun to get her revenge on Piltover. Sylas will gladly murder anyone who remotely disagrees with him. Both are meant to be "Villains doing evil for a good reason"
@@PanmasterAtArms sylas can do no wrong (im in love with him)
Renata needs to win to see the full realization of her character. She needs to win and find herself just as scared, vulnerable, hollow, and angry as she was when she started this journey, realizing that the only thing she can really do to find a modicum of peace is to walk away.
Besides, her win benefits everyone more then her loss
Plus, if ar the end she just walks away, she wouldn't care if glasc industries falls
Would be cool if zeri, ekko and seraphine realize her plan and continue it after she drops the drug thing after she takes piltover and smokes up the snakes from it
Just in a less...... Dubious way
Would actually make seraphine more appealing character too
I don’t necessarily see why
I think Miss Fortune is more justifiable in her lack of blemishes. Her character fantasy is similar to Samira. A beautiful, supremely confident bounty hunter. I think some scars would improve her design, but her redesigns are alright I think.
Riven though? RIVEN? The child soldier? The gladiatorial put fighter? She couldn’t have at least a scar?
riven has many scars fym
I honestly thought Fiora and Riven were in their 20’s.
@@calebharkemeister6278 mental scares don't count.
@@Ajehy they could be in their 20's and still have scars Riven literally grew up working in a farm since she was a child to take care of herself , later became a child soldier , fought in a war and was fighting with a big sword , survived a chemical explosion witnessed all sorts of horror and trama from said war and explosion and have nightmares because of it, worked on a farm again, became a prisoner having to fight in a Arina yet with all of that she has perfect skin?
Surprised he didn't mention kai'sa and irellia i know conanicly in the lore they are young and in their early 20's but C'MON they both have led a harsh and stressful life and suddenly lost their family and had to fight for survival since they were very young kai'sa is a known example of this but i think irellia should be a example of it too, hear her lor voice lines and tell me she's not depressed and stressed out and tired 24/7 like i looked like a complete Mess when my pet died because I was crying for hours meanwhile irellia lost her entire family and had to become a war leader at 14 and she has a perfect face that looks like she's ready for a photoshoot . No scars no bags under her eyes no tired eyes NOTHING i am not salty i swear but grief and stress really leave a physical tool on your body and i don't like when this element of characters design is neglected bec i personally know how bad it is
Ever since she was first revealed, I've fallen in love with her as a whole. And I've been praying for Riot to give her a Coven skin that makes her look like a mixture of Eileen from Bloodborne and a floating effigy with an all watching eye flickering around, searching for the its next prey to feed upon their life force.
...i might've rambled for a little too long, that's how much I love her.
After googling who Eileen is that would actually be so fitting 10/10 give us a bird lady and egg
the crimes i would commit for that renata legendary
One paragraph ain't a ramble lol
That'd be so sick!! Damn
@@ghostofthecommentsection Depends how long that paragraph is. :P (See: Wall of Text.)
What you said at the end: You're so right. Being a non-competitive League fan is so fucking exhausting. I like the lore, I love the champs, I love the gameplay mostly, but it's just another big video game corporation doing the bare minimum to make the most money. It's exhausting, it's disheartening, and there's nothing we can do but hope and yell as loud as we can until we get lucky enough that Riot decides to put in even a little bit of effort into something.
That Skarner rework is looking promising, speaking of effort.
IP needs to be abolished. These characters and settings deserve to be handled by people who care.
@@pepi7404 Thats how you get the clusterfuck that is the SCP verse you need gatekeepers
@@yosemitesam9576 Remembrance and popularity tend to outweigh the lesser quality entries, and with sheer manpower and variety tends to make it... better?? Or rather, work in thw favor of it's dedicated format. You can simply ignore what isn't appealing due to no enforced "canon" since a majority of the focus of SCPs is not the overall narrative. For those that don't like it, well there's the tales, but even then I believe it was always preferred to be different from anything like MCU.
@@pepi7404 it's a balancing act between protecting the smaller creators ability to profit off of their work(because it's not very fair if you create a new exiting idea and a larger company comes along and steals it because they can put it out faster) and not letting extremely large companies hoard a part of culture to themselves so that they can milk it.
It exists for a reason, the problem is that it has been abused so that companies can hold onto exclusive rights long after it would have passed into general use(like how Alive in wonderland passed into the creative Commons after 25 years I think? Might have been 50, but not Disney, who made use of that story right after it entered the CC has spent a ton of money to extend copyright to over 140 years, and are looking to extend it more. Again, not 100%sure on the exact year spans, but long story short it has been stretched into absurdity to protect corporate interests.)
Being a competitive player is arguably more exhausting, let's be real here. People in ranked are REALLY goddamn obnoxious to deal with and to be at a pro level requires some really difficult mental and physical conditioning.
28:50 waltzes also, historically, were considered scandalous and rebellious for a while, the waltz is a good representation of renata herself who was less then savory from a societal standpoint but eventually became the standard for high class living
It's crazy that I never even realized she was a witch archetype! That just adds so much respect on top of what I already had for her. I love how awesome she is!
I like the idea of a mix between “villain victory” and “villain defeat”-namely, she’s not defeated at the eleventh hour but at the stroke of midnight. Wheels are already turning, Piltover is already crashing down, and though Renata may be chased off her throne, it’s too late to keep the status quo.
Because there’s a tolerance limit to her poison, and after years of microdosing, the elites of Piltover hit that limit. They go irrevocably, violently mad, tearing apart not only their city but Renata’s empire as well. She realizes what’s happening and flees at the last minute, with the heroes on her tail, and while she escapes…nobody can escape the consequences.
Now, for the first time, everyone is on equal footing: the bottom. Some unite for the hood of all, others try vainly to re-establish the status quo, while others act on old grudges now their oppressors are in reach. Every P&Z champion is left to, in their own ways, pick up the pieces. To ally and fight over their own visions of rebuilding.
And Renata? She escapes the law and the urchins, but not the consequences of her actions. She did what she set out to do: become powerful and bring down the powerful…including herself. She’s right back where she started: the bottom.
But she knows how to work her way up, and how to form a loyal faction. Can she do it again? Can she silence those who know her crimes and rebuild the twin cities in her image? Will she OWN her actions, painting herself as the avenging savior of Zaun? Or will whatever new order emerges take her to task for destroying the old one?
I do wonder if the reason renata hates her parents’ philosophy is because it lets her cope with her involvement in their death. How her business chooses led to them being killed. So she deflects onto them, blaming them so that she doesn’t have than her mind as she did what she did?
I don't think she blames them. She thinks they were foolish and naive for believing that the world is fair or that the "treat people like you want to be treated" philosophy is the way to survive. But she was fond of them: whenever she mentions them, she speaks softly, and she still fantasizes about them acknowledging her or praising her. So, while she disagreed with her parents and tried to make them more pragmatic, she didn't deny that they were good and kind people. Too good for this world, it seems.
@@pokerface4396I feel similarly about my mom.
Fun fact: Renata's splash art is a few champions that don't show their actual self in splash art but is a reflections from another source in Renata's case she is standing next to a puddle which we see in her splash art (try to turn the picture upside down and it will make more sense) the other one is jhin which can be seen through a mirror. Which I think it pretty cool and it add more character to the champion themself
I've always found funny the fact that we know a lot of characters full names but we just call them by their first names, except with Renata Glasc, everyone calls her by her full name, and it's like a way of respecting her
33:42 Literally what Silco wanted but couldn't do.
By the way, HOLY SHIT was that last part so good! I would love to read a book of your writing. That was such a good exploration of the character's trauma and what would happen in her everyday life. Please tell us in the future(or if you are already) when you write a novel or even a short story.
I like that Renata Glasc isn't "the greatest alchemist to have ever existed because she's the main villain and how else are we going to make her threatening"
Quite the opposite, it makes her rise to power using alchemy as the foundation on which she built her empire that much more impressive and / or terrifying!
As much as I like the parts where Skyen talks about different aspects of the visual design, animations and story riot created, for me the best part of this video is the fanfiction section, I love it!
Damn he really get better everytime he does it... This one is excelent, I SAW the scene in the office
Renata is such a badass, but I don't think I had noticed that she was a twist on the old witch archetype!
That fanfic at the end if awesome, btw
Regarding her color scheme, one of the Riot artist who was in charge of her design pointed out that it's based on the exact colors of Zaun´s Logo (the full version of it) but inverted. A little trivia fact I find super interesting considering everything else about her!
Something i love about Renata is that in my opinion she is a different types of villain usually there is anti- villain who have good intentions but goes about it in a evil or not very ethical ways or villains who think of themselves as heros, Renata is doing her actions bec of revenge but she goes about it in a way that others benefit from and actually does help others this is a type that i don't think I have seen before someone who is evil but their actions help and benifits others they are not the type of villain who have " must be stopped" writen all over them if anything it's kinda questionable if they should be stopped sure Renata is not helping out zaun out of the kindness of her heart and does it to cover up her plans but in a place as harsh and difficult as zaun this helps is needed and beneficial for the people of zaun , i love her she's a very complex charcter and the fact that she doesn't resent her parents and clearly messes them with her death voice Line is a good element of humanizeing her i love tragic villains who their actions are motivated by their love or grief towards someone dear to them especially if it's their family it's something that i love and relate to grief is very complicated and can affect in different ways so this type of characters always intregue me and the fact that Renata lost her arm trying to save her parents is very tragic and sad can't imagine the amount of pain she felt that day and how trmatic it must have been for her 😔, and yeah would love more older women in the game, nothing i enjoy more than when a older woman is allowed to be beautiful, fashionable and confident without being doubtful. Renata check all the boxes and she joined my list of favourite legue of legends villains
I think she's what you could call an "anti-villain".
In a somewhat roundabout way she reminds me a lot of Inigo Montoya. This figure that doesn't bind themselves to a specific list of morals while seeking revenge, no pontificating about being better than their foes or using any means to pursue their goals. Instead those morals are loose and highly contextual. Sometimes doing great good and other times stabbing a noble hero with lethal intent since they are presently in the way. The big difference is that Inigo is definitely a protagonist while Renata dances far more as an antagonist
@@panna7241 usch termine exists
Kind of reminds me of Niv Mizzet from Magic: the Gathering. A self centered, arrogant dragon who believes above all else that he deserves to lead and is willing to do some questionable things to get that power, but when he gets what he wants and basically becomes a god, he doesn't seem to care about much but ruling well and protecting what is "his".
this is kinda how drug cartels work in poor cities. the drug lord spend lots of money giving the poor people from is city houses, paying for childrens doctor and college, building hospitals, schools and sport centers, even if they dont do it for actuall good intentions, but to gain favor of the public. all the people they help will side with him and act as a cover. ( cause someone who do so much charity cant be evil rigth?)
I like Camille's design. The porcelain skin that would fracture or crack easily seems fitting for an aristocratic figure head. I feel like it reflects her need to keep up appearances and present as perfect. To look clean and perfect but always moments away from shattering. If Camille and the aristocracy sit atop a house of cards being porcelain just shows how much she would lose If she were to fall.
It's not that her design is bad it fits her but it is a way to remove the age from the old lady
I think it's more the fact that it keeps on happening that annoys him.
@@danielorlovaquinn to be honest, I'm not surprised that we didn't have an old lady character until now. Camille is an enhanced human, a combination between flesh and machine brought up by a cold and perfectionist family and taught to be cold and perfect, which is why she is ageless and elegant. LeBlanc is a powerful mage and a master manipulator, so why wouldn't she use her magic to stay young and good-looking? Elise was obsessed with maintaining her looks and beauty, so it's her entire theme - she agreed to become a monster just so she could stay young. All these characters had the means not to look their age and used them - because they had no reason not to use them.
What makes Renata special is that she could have invested in means and tech to make her look younger, but she doesn't care. Her main goal is her revenge. She doesn't give a damn about her gray hair or her wrinkles, she does her best to look stylish and presentable, and she rocks her look. But in the end, all she really cares about is seeing Piltover burn.
@@pokerface4396 I think it fits Leblanc's thematic because her whole deal is about deception and lies. Using magic to make herself look more attractive than what she may actually be fits the character perfectly.
But I do think that TB's view isn't so much as it is it's poorly justified or doesn't fit the character necessarily so much as it is just... overly common. Which is true, objectively speaking.
@@velvetgorge3844 Good point about LeBlanc. Also, IMHO, I kinda get why most of the characters in League of Legends use the opportunity to look younger (and be immortal) -- this is what most people would do IRL. Very few men and women would consciously reject the option, it's natural for us to want more time, to extend our prime years as much as possible. Therefore, when a character living in a world where magical rejuvenation exists ignores or refuses this opportunity in favor of putting their resources elsewhere, it communicates their resolve, determination, and philosophy. For instance, Swain, while not old, isn't exactly young. He could probably use his demonic powers to rejuvenate himself. But he applies them for more practical purposes and isn't afraid of his mortality. In fact, he even prepared an assassin to kill him if he ever goes mad with power, as the old Noxian king did. His signs of aging are both marks of his experience and humanity, the humility behind his pride and dignity.
I'm cool with more characters who look older or even old, especially female characters. But there is something fascinating about the characters who look their age, not because they don't have the means to change it, but because it's their conscious choice.
"their lives don't leave marks on them" is such a good advice for people like me who are starting to study character design!
One of the things I really like about Renata, is that her gun is proportional with her, inside League we are so used to exaggerated guns that her gun being "normal" is pretty cool
These small things often make me like a character so much more
Ah man, the flash back in the sotry gave me shivers, her desperation was conveid so well. I really hope they won't gave her a tipical villain story like Viego got, honestly I feel like these region spesific events that are teased are so much more promising and intresting then the really world ending ones. I kinda hope they detail that she paid for Viktors glorius evolution will even actually come up too.
I also really wonder what she did with all the money in the story. xd
Araki's poses for Jojo were notoriously designed around model poses you see in fashion and cosmetic magazines, which I think is a cool overlap for Renata's poses as well. I don't know if that was the artist intent, but its neat that there is that overlap in similar industry, even minimally.
When i see Renata, i see Edmond Dantes.
Both spirits guided by vengeance against the people who wronged them, while also suffering from the realization that, in that search for vengeance, they are slowly turning more and more into something that, in their core, they would feel disgust towards
To be fair, Alexandre did Dantes a favor Riot clearly hasn't done Renata. In that he gave him the chance, in the end, to see when the damage was going too far, was going beyond what could be seen as equitable, or even just satisfying, letting him walk away while you could still read him as a sort of hero in his own story. One who went out for revenge, but in the end, was not consumed by that pursuit. Dantes may have started to become something that might repulse him, but when that became clear, he walked away. It seems very clear Renata has gone very, very far past that line already.
@@thaddeusgenhelm8979 Yes, and i like that contrast between them aswell. Dantes had the chance to stop, to still be someone we could root for to the end, but Renata has no more chances, no more going back. They represent the two endings of revenge.
@@FarmerSlayerFromTheEdoPeriod Fair. I've just always found Dantes an interesting figure because, for all that he's considered like the archetypal "protagonist driven by revenge," especially from the era, but the fact that he shows restraint is actually extremely atypical. While it's most common in the modern era, with larger amounts of fiction being written, for there to be various forms of nuance, it kind of used to be the main two types of revenge characters were the ones that went too far, and the ones that the narrative just didn't care to think about the negative implications of their actions. If it was more a period piece, I'd almost expect Renata to have a more... Captain Ahab experience than anything.
@@thaddeusgenhelm8979 Very interesting observations my friend, glad we could have this discussion.
Such a great video and framing set up for the analysis.
I really agree that her story feels like one where she should "win" she achieves everything she thinks she wants, takes over Piltover all that jazz.
Then, if her story even needs a moment where she is "defeated", later in life she loses it all. No redemption, it just feels so out of character for her to have a face turn and want to heal all the damage she did to achieve her goal. I think at best she would just let her defeat happen, like almost welcome it as she becomes hollow in life after achiving evreything she thought she wanted.
So uhh yeah She needs to win XD and step on me mommy XD
Aye! Also, I can't help but feel like even if she does eventually fall after inevitably winning (let a bloke dream), it will be in a way that is planned and poetically tarnishes the entire Piltovan system that she used to climb to the top in the beginning. A final master stroke where upon her last breath she takes the last of Piltover's facades with her, leaving others to build what she herself could never hope to create.
Well while she is similar to Silco, his story is told. The position is open, so maybe she is new Silco, that could be a off ramp, her story of vengeance merging with ideas or revolution.
Honestly Renata is my favorite support to play. And that could be because of her ultimate, her fun aoe shielding, her attack speed buffs, her passive, but it’s just as much because her design is wonderful. I wasn’t familiar with her backstory before this video, and honestly I love her even more now.
Yeah I feel like something TB missed is how extremely well her personality and lore translate to her in-game kit. You FEEL like you're the big boss in control of things despite being support, as Renata brings powerful support utilities but with a price. She makes enemies fall in line and allies follow her lead.
i respect renata more than other enchanters purely because she has to play somewhat aggressively and encourages aggression rather than passivity; even if her W is an absolute abomination of an ability, i'd take her over lulu any day
@@sweetillusions5495 will skeyn dosent really focus on the game play in this videos it's about the character design and art
I was really trying to consider what games have an older woman protagonist and the only one I could think of that really fit was Dishonored: Death of the Outsider. It was certainly telling how hard it was to find one, thanks for pointing that out!
Returnal very prominently features one and it's an integral part of who she is.
She's possibly the most realistically-depicted older woman that I've seen in a game: no makeup, no ignoring her age, nothing like that.
The Cat Lady has a badass older woman protagonist 😌
Listening to people pick apart bad designs is all fine and dandy, but listening to people pick apart, explain, and frankly gush a genuinely good design and character that you can clearly tell they are very passionate and WHY they like that character about is truly one of my favorite things. Have I ever played lol? No will I? Probably not. Did I know about Renata Glasc before this video? Not really. Do I love her a a character now? Absolutely.
Fuckin' same. I'm tempted to write an after to Skyen's fic, but don't know much of anything about league and thus feels under-qualified lol
I love everything about this, espically the fanfiction part.
Personally I aswell see Renata as someone who would burn Piltover down and leave it behind or even dies within the flames of her revenge. Seeing how Piltover suffers as she had und scaring the city so they will not forget her.
She is just such a good and interesting character and my favorite characters in riots universe.
I really, really love your future idea. Her setting down the dominoe chain that will destroy Piltover and then finally retiring (if she can) makes perfect sense, and makes her more of an antivillain (not an antihero) that would be crazy good
Renata has become my favorite champ. She's a powerful supervillain type character, an elegant Lex Luthor with a touch of Joker(in terms of methods of how she uses her chemicals). I like how the story doesn't try to portray her as a hero or necessarily in the right but she has a real solid motive. It's also refreshing that she's a villain who revels in what she does and that makes her stand out against a lot of the grim dark antagonistic characters in league, landing in a similar spot as Veigar and Odyssey Kayn. I especially like how she's just a person, not some mage or demigod or warrior, just a person who outsmarted and outwitted people. She's a powerful businesswoman with a commanding presence. I've always loved fun and interesting villains who almost have fun with what they do and she fits this perfectly. Her gameplay makes you feel so clever and powerful when you save an ally and set up an objective or pull off a successful ult. Add that with fantastic design and character and she's the perfect villain for the story of Piltover and Zaun.
Honestly, I do feel like it would be interesting to have Renata clash with Urgot. Both want to tear down Piltover, but while Renata uses wealth to slowly climb the ladder, Urgot rejects it completely and stirs anarchy.
I gotta admit the basically fanfiction section of these videos are some of my favorite but... the voices. The voices man, they throw me for a loop every time.
Someday I'll have enough money to hire voice actors
I find it interesting and very fitting how Renata's name means "reborn". Renata the girl "died" in the flames with her parents and from those flames, trauma, and anger this new version of Renata was born.
Honestly i really like everything about renata. From her design,to her animation to jer voicelines. Even her kit is pretty cool and effective without being overloaded or too opresive.She is definitely my favourite champion release of the last couple years
I've been waiting for this video and I am here. Renata Glasc is a breath of fresh air, she is what League needed so badly.
I could listen to T B Skyen talk all day. His voice is so alluring and his articulation and use of vernacular is just, wonderful to the ears. Would love to hear him in a podcast, the ability to make an hour of talking feel short is a great gift that you definitely have.
I was halfway through watching the premiere VOD and it suddenly got removed. Glad to be able to continue it with barely a beat of waiting. Fantastic video so far, but t'is to be expected from Skyen.
I LOVE the bit of writing at the end! It was captivating, and you read it beautifully.
so glad i found you through your yt shorts, these long ones are the kinda videos i never knew i wanted! I love the in-depth analysation of Renata, she's gained my interest whereas I really didnt think much of her before. I find it hard to read LoL lore but I love hearing it alongside that deeper analysis you do, really brings her to life. You also have a lovely voice to listen to :)
Holy shit, you nailed her cadence with that "follow my lead" line so hard I actually did a double take.
God that story is good. I love the idea of Renata just fucking off to parts unknown once she’s gotten her revenge.
Im obsessed with the Chem baroness Seraphine skin thats been made. I think Renata deserves an event like Viego had, just imagine all the champions that she could corrupt!
Man, I would kill for a Jayce and Camille skin corrupted by Renata, like they're mind controlled, with their outfits almost reflecting the power that the Chem Baroness have on them. Jayce's hextec hammer turning into a chemtech weapon, like it could break if used too hard, being of much less quality than the og, but can't do anything to change it, after all madame Glasc wouldn't approve it. While Camille is almost a copy of the Chem Baroness, with the red chemicals flowing through her, and her blade legs glowing red, with a mysterious red steam coming out of it
Her walking animation is like it's out of Bee Gees' Stayin Alive video clip. It also fit's that rhythm perfectly!
Skyen: I support woman rights. And their wrongs. And I stand by my canceled wife.
12:47 They USED to do more. So much more. There used to be stories and in-universe newspapers that they published every couple of weeks detailing what the characters were up to. I remember Blitzcrank had one where he made a matchmaking service, and tested it on other champions for instance. It made the universe feel alive, full of little touches of humanity through interviews and updates all done from an in-character perspective.
Then they just... stopped. Someone decided it wasn't worth doing, and they moved to practically forgetting the characters exist post release. They used to feel like living, breathing, fully realized entities, and they all had justification for why they were in an arena that seems to've been similarly abandoned. Why the hell is Renata in a 5v5 against characters like Annie or Nasus?
*Tells the single most motivating heartfelt and genuinely mystical tale ive heard narrated in my entire life*
Tbskyen:"Or well thats what I think would be nifty"
I'd love to see some kind of conflict between Renata's Piltover and Urgot's Zaun, both having realized their goals as villains, and now spiraling out of control as the two magnates throw the weight of two entire cities at each other. We really need more villain stories, they can often be the sources of some of the most compelling narratives.
Goddamn, I love your story with Renata at the end. I do think that other champions should be more involved (Camille, mainly, I think writing a sort of economic and social Cold War between the two for some time beforehand, with both thinking they’re a step ahead would be really fun), but you’re a much better writing than I so.
FIRST on the reupload! Marked at 20:03 2023/03/25!
I am a big fan of her victory. It's so well written and I love it.
I hope we get to see her in arcane. Probably not in the next season as we'll see Noxus most likely and time wise, I believe it's a bit early for her to appear but the season after? Mmmmm yes I can't wait for the next up comming seasons of Arcane and this video just makes me so much more hyped for it I can't wait
Also, I LOVE the scene you wrote with Ekko, Seraphine and Zeri. It’s so god damn cute.
Thank you for pointing out how stupid the "sex sells" and "capitalism" arguments are. As a character designer, I believe critical analysis of character designs is both helpful in learning as well as holds designers accountable for their decisions. I am constantly frustrated by overly sexy designs that have no character reasoning behind them.
They become an attractive design but if there is no reasoning behind it I feel it cheapens their character. If the only reason that can be given for a character being sexy is "sex sells" then you are admitting that the character design is uncompelling and was designed around marketability over depth. Particularly with Arcane's redesigns it was shown that different proportions, muscle, scarring, and imperfections on female characters can be really interesting and equally as attractive without going the conventional "safe" route. I can only hope these ideas are furthered as we move forward.
I've been thinking a lot about representation of old women in media as of late, what with Michelle Yeoh's oscar speech, and more than that that I got to see 80 for Brady last night as it finally came to Ireland.
I loved the film, but more than that, spent the first 15 minutes marveling because I realised that I don't get to see old women on screen in leading roles often. I was thinking about how most of the time it's Lili Tomlin and/or Jane Fonda who are the default for such roles, and it broke my heart to think of the elderly and seasoned talented women who still want to act but don't have much of the opportunity.
As I was heading home last night, I started brainstorming great ways to use age for characters in my own original story. I thought of seasoned veteran witches and the like, because as you said, age implicitly implies experience.
I say all of the above to say that your little rant on age in society and character design felt like you fully spelunked the nuggets I was just scratching the surface of. I always feel enlightened when I watch your videos. Once again, thank you for everything.
22:25 FUCKING THANK YOU! So tired of the "responses" to rightful critism is to mention oh that's business. I KNOW IT'S BUSINESS. I KNOW IT'S WHAT THEY DO. EVERYONE KNOW IT'S BUSSINES. I don't care what makes them money, and no costumer SHOULD care what makes them money. As a costumer, I care about what product is being created for me a consumer to purchase, and if I don't like it IS MY RIGHT criticize it.
One of my most anticipated champs to be covered in this series. Very satisfied with how it turned out. I can only add that I think her rivlarly with Camille is gonna be a bit more personal. It's implied she was the one behind the murder of her parents. I think, if the lore was ever to keep progressing in a stable rate, a lot of Renata's story is gonna be this massive chess battle against the Ferros and Camille in particular. Renata would never really win a physical 1v1 against a nearly robot lady with swords for legs, but a strategic battle of wits? That would be a sight to behold.
With the thought of her story ending on a slow decline of either the chemtech or just the age killing her it makes me think a question I like asking others about other characters when/if kindred comes to claim them do you think renata would be ready to go or would wolf get a chase honestly after revenge I think renata is ready to take that arrow but is just me
You're not the only one i also think that after she takes her revenge nothing will matter to her anymore and considering her death voice Line and how much she misses her parents, i am sure she would choose lamb , OH GOD SOMEONE SHOULD WRITE THIS FANFICTION they will be having my tears for free
"League has too many characters and could stand to get rid of a few"
The most obvious example of this, to me, is Sona/Seraphine. The characters are so similar both mechanically and conceptually (notice i said "similar," not "the same") that i see no reason why we shouldn't just pick one and delete the other entirely
Tbh, I don't think getting rid of seraphine or sona is a good idea if you factor in people's reception to doing that would be. Both have their fanbases. They are both beloved characters to some people. I think one needs to have their kit reworked, though, to distinguish the two gameplay-wise. I do think seraphine's fans are more probably interested in her appearance and skins so if her kit was tweaked somehow to be more distinct from sona's I wouldn't imagine there'd be much backlash from that. But there are a lot of champions that I don't know if many people care about. Don't know the meta too well, though, and who knows, maybe there's an underground cult following even for champs that I forget exist.
Sera mains cry the loudest
Every single time I see the “Sera and Sona have similar kits” discussion, it shows that you haven’t played both of them. Seraphine is primarily a damage dealer, and Sona is primarily an enchanter. Seraphine is honestly closer to Lux than she is to Sona.
Sera and Sona have their fan base and it would case a Internet tantram, my personal suggestion is corky and Alastair no one remembers or care for them so i don't think any one will notice if they are gone
I've been doing a big roleplay thing with someone that has Renata as a main character to explore her story and stuff more. I should write some Renata fanfic stuff. I don't even play LoL but I found her so captivating that I got into your videoes wanting to learn lore for context around her and the world around her especially after having finally watched Arcane.
Another interesting end scenario would be "I became Piltover's aristocracy so it could die with me." She could attain her victory, reach the top of the pile and then willingly face justice for her crimes to right both the injustices she inflicted, and also create a wave empowering Zaun to either swallow Piltover or rise up to meet it and demand similar justice from its entire system. Based on how you've sold her character I don't think she'd care which happened.
I view this scenario sort of like the priests from "The Order" who indulged in sin their whole lives that they knew the church would never forgive and so they call in the Sin Eater at the last minute to cleanse them so that they can reap the rewards of their faith without ever having followed it.
Renata ruthelessly chases her vengeance and drives to the top of Piltover's society then, as though she can make up for her actions, funds a rebellion or otherwise draws the attention of the Zaunites to rise up and topple her empire and Piltover with it. She Assuages her own conscience by falling on what she sees as a martyr's sword without living a life to atone for her actions. She gives death for death rather than a life for a life.
i really enjoy your view on showing aging and wrinkles as a storytelling tool and i completely agree, i’m so glad to hear someone talking about it in such detail
I, too, am tired of that typical anime girl design that is so prevalent in LoL. Even though I've stopped playing the game, as someone who enjoys lore/world/character building, I still keep an eye on it. Even at this state, most champions are so interesting, imagine if they invested a bit more effort into the lore. I live for dramatic, morally grey or even anti-villainous characters like Renata Glasc. So, I absolutely loved this video. Especially your fan fiction. It definitely left me feeling things. Mostly bittersweet, Renata's situation is so hopeless and I felt that to my core.
Absolutely love the talk about how important her age is. It is true that most champs in this game, specifically female, they are either middle aged or outright ancient and don't show it. I'm not saying we need everyone to have saggy skin but Renata showed us you can look old and stylish.
you did such a phenomenal job with the short story at the end- im not even into lol but im SO invested in the stories you write about the characters!!!! so cool!!!
TB, I can’t express how much I love these videos. your analysis of various characters so greatly helps me understand what makes a character a good one, and it inspires me so much to try my hand at making my own. I’ve been wanting to try making a champion, specifically Nunu’s mother, and I think it’s about time I got around to starting that. thank you so much.
This character made me love the art of League of Legends again
Kalista never really read to me as particularly young. I kinda figured her translucence added to her smoothness. She seems late thirties but that may be influenced by knowing her story and that she’s one of the few female characters they let be posed in a dark and angry way that adds mature vibes to her.
I dont feel like theres space in the current story, but man I'd love to see her get some exploration in arcane. She fits in that world so well.
I'd love to see that, especially with Jinx having already attacked the council. Maybe she uses the resulting confusion, the losses and paranoia to insert herself as a stabilizing influence, slowly gathering power to herself and playing herself as an ally to all sides in the conflict. And by the time anyone realizes what's happened, she's already made herself invaluable, untouchable.
She’ll be in season 10 of arcane I just know it
I think that it would be interesting if a third party villain or rival will manipulate Zeri (or other hero) into dealing with Glasc for them.
The pyke theme at 32:00 is just chefs kiss
I know how much work goes into the What's the Deal With videos, so I don't expect more than maybe one a year, but DAMN if it isn't a treat every time a new one drops.
In that revenge scenario I could see her settling down in some backwater in noxian occupied ionia, maybe with a connection to sett and try to live out her twilight years being tended to with ionian remedies and trying to 'take it easy' after getting what little adventure she could out of her rapidly withering body, deprived of all the chemtech she was pouring into it.
In that kind of scenario I could see some particularly ambitious Zaunite managing to track her down through a mixture of dumb luck, intense sleuthing and borderline divine providence on a potentially ill-fated quest for revenge after their own family was stepped on in Renata's metal-heeled march to power, they'd find Renata with the help of some sympathetic ionians, vastaya, human, maybe a ninja (whatever they're called in canon) or two- They'd find not the imposing chem-baron queen that brought piltover groveling to its knees but a tired old woman sipping hermal remedies and being doted on by who knows how many fussy handmaidens, generously paid for by underground arenas and smuggling rings-
Our plucky young would-be revenger would snarl their story, demand justice and Renata would sigh, shoo away her attendees and tell her own story, tell this young'un to look at her, really look at her and ask themselves if following in her footsteps on a quest for revenge is really worth it, to let it eat away at the soul the same way it did for her...
While its easy to question the merit of that kind of story it just feels like the kind of story a villain like Renata would produce in the followup of her 'victory' over piltover. Maybe she'd tell them to go home, do something really meaningful, make Zaun a better place, do what she didn't, let her waste away in relative peace... Or just take the shot and stop wasting both of their time.
thank you for this skyen, it incredibly moved me!!
renata is my favourite character in all of media, she has been a hyperfixation that has comforted me in some terrible times and its beautiful to see her spoken about with such eloquence and insight.
you are such an inspiration to me, youre eloquent, intelligent, and insightful. i wish to be like you one day. thank you a million times over for making this.
Stand Name: [POISON HEART]
Stand User: Renata Glasc
Reference: Poison Heart by Ramones
Ability: Allows the user to generate any chemical concoction they know the ingredients of and administer it as a gas. She can also fire projectiles filled with gas that burst on impact.
Seriously though, read the lyrics of Poison Heart and tell me they couldn't be the her inner thinking! Like, it doesn't directly correspond to canon with every word, but many parts do and even the rest could, we just haven't seen it! Gonna post them below. Amazing vid again Skyen!
[Verse 1]
Well no one ever thought this one would survive
Helpless child, going to walk a drum beat behind
I lock you in a dream, I never let you go
I never let you laugh or smile, not you
[Pre-Chorus]
Well, I just want to walk right out of this world
''Cause everybody has a poison heart
I just want to walk right out of this world
'Cause everybody has a poison heart
[Verse 2]
Making friends with a homeless torn up man
He just kind of smiles, it really shakes me up
There's danger on every corner but I'm okay
Walking down the street, trying to forget yesterday
[Pre-Chorus]
Well, I just want to walk right out of this world
'Cause everybody has a poison heart
I just want to walk right out of this world
'Cause everybody has a poison heart
[Chorus]
A poison heart
A poison heart
A poison heart, yeah
[Verse 3]
You know that life really takes its toll
And a poet's gut reaction is to search his very soul
So much their confusion before my eyes
But nothing seems to phase me, and this one still survives
[Pre-Chorus]
I just want to walk right out of this world
'Cause everybody has a poison heart
I just want to walk right out of this world
'Cause everybody has a poison heart
Well I just want to walk right out of this world
'Cause everybody has a poison heart
[Chorus]
A poison heart
A poison heart
A poison heart
A poison heart
A poison heart
A poison heart
A poison heart
22:42 Thank you for articulating this. I find it so frustrating how people become so apathetic, it’s like a venomous bile seeping into our bloodstreams that even I struggle to expel. Maybe it won’t change anything now but if we don’t even try to express the madness of our current lives how can we ever hope to improve them?
Her Voice Actress is amazing. Everything she voices is just so so good.
I also love the choice to make the fashion industry giant a jojo reference because Araki famously adores the fashion industry
t b skyen: renata needs fanfiction plz write fanfiction
also t b skyen: *proceeds to write such fanfic so good it may fulfil any and all demand for renata fanfiction**
Renata is such a good character amd this video did wonders showing that. I love the story you came up with for her as well. Her wining just makes sense to me and I dont really like the thought of it going the other way.
My favorite part is always the future parts of the video. It’s always so interesting to hear the thoughts of where character’s stories could take them; whether it be a dark path or a happy ending. The writer in me is always vying and uncontainable at the end. Keep up the good work Skyen, hope to see more soon!
Also renata glasc is my favorite character next to jinx. So it’s nice to see her story being told
Renata is--and always will be--my absolute favourite LoL character (and not just because I'm a Sapphic anti-capitalist). The whole vibe of her animation, her story, and her design--ugh, her design. I'm definitely going to try to cosplay her if I ever get the chance.
As someone who aspires to be a character designer i really really value these videos and your critiques
The last time a Skyen video was *this* much of a love letter was the "Villain" concept video animation review.
is just, the way you convey all the lore together, so magnificient, picking what you like and wielding it together into something so freaking wonderfull
I think it would be very interesting to see her win just to explore what she actually wants after she's had her revenge, humiliated and ruined those who wronged her. Would she actually enjoy a life of luxury, or would it be nothing but a bother to her? What would she do when she's given time to think about what she wants out of what's left of her time? If she had a moment to think about the morality of what she's been doing, would she?
42:32 I loved this so much omg, was adorable to read but also hearing the names of the plaques/plates omg
the premiere was so fun : ] great video as always !!
So glad I follow you on Twitter and am in the Discord - CZcams didn't recommend the reupload to me at ALL. I scrolled for like 15 minutes trying to find it before I had to go into my subscriptions feed. Absolutely banger job, Mr Skyen, and a delightful watch :)
Absolutely adore the story you made towards the end, I wish I could write as well as you!
The absence of the old witch feels like it speaks to the increasing mixed influence of capitalism, tech, and superficial fashion. Particularly catering to China's fashion-demand for young hyper-thin archetypes. But a recent example of an old witch I loved is Madame Gao from Netflix's Daredevil -- unashamedly wrinkled, walking with a cane, treated with utmost respect by Kingpin, plainly wise, and substantially more powerful than she looked (at least until they watered her down in Defenders...) How I wish someone like her would show up in League or other games as a playable character.
I would love to see a “hero of another story“ style story for Renata. The noble intentions that she has of dismantling the oppressive heads of Piltover could easily be fuel for a redemption arc. It would take time, and would involve a lot of fixing past mistakes, but the idea that Renata has the potential to become a hero by taking down the chem barons and the xenophobic heads of Piltover could make for a very interesting “antihero“ plot
you should make these into podcasts theyre so good to listen to
love your videos ❤
Fantastic video Skyen. Never really liked into the details of their backstory, but the whole presentation from the witch archetype to the possible ending has me invested in this character.