Hilarious! I love DT, but that was hilarious! (And I think this is the better band, even though I realize it's like saying Mango kicks Orange's ass; and it does, cuz Mango is the Ivo of fruits! Also I just had 2 shots of tequila, so shudup!
Me too. It was at the Kuumbwa Jazz Club in Santa Cruz. It blew us all away; so densely intricate and free at the same time...more notes per second than anyone could process, yet we got into it. Thay didn't speak a word of English. Incredible.
I saw these guys in a small jazz club in Santa Cruz having heard of them before. It was a unique experience; we're still trying to process what we heard. We loved it.They didn't speak a word of English. We all spoke music. I wish these Night Music shows would be released. Every one was unique and amazing. David Sanborn had great taste in music. I recorded a few on VHS.
Here down the chat already explained 11 year ago : "It starts with 18/16 (it's acutally 7/16 + 11/16) 3 bars Then 6/16 4 bars. This repeats twice. Then 18/16 2 bars and 7/16 4 bars. This also repeats twice. Next is 16 bars of 7/16. Then 6 bars of 15/16 and a 2 bar break in 9/16. It then runs into 9/16 and keeps going until 2:37 where this absurd break appears. The break goes 2 bars of 12/16 and 2 bars of 15/16 repeated twice. It then goes into 2/4 (or more precisely 6/16?!?) and runs like this until the end."
A friend of mine is getting married in August and she asked me to recommend her a band to play at her wedding. Guess who I recommended. Now she is actually trying to arrange them to play there.
I have much respect for Bulgarians when it comes to their incredible musicianship and discipline to write such amazing pieces like these. Much respect from an Albanian
so incredibly hard if you dont play an instrument you might not be able to fully appreciate whats going on here .......... my God ....... just ............ insane .
I'll never forget the night I woke up in the middle of the night and decided to see if there was something on the tube that would help get me back to sleep. Tuned in just as Dave introduced these guys. My life has never been the same. Where can I get more in 11, 13, or 17?
pbwbrian53 I, too, watched this after I came home from a gig the night it aired. Absolutely jaw-dropping. Don't know about you, but I sure as hell couldn't get right to sleep after hearing this!
I remember watching this in 1989 (GREAT TV show) and it made the hair on my arms stand on end. I had been listening to the Bulgarian Women's Chorus (also fantastic), and Andy Irvine's interpretations of Balkan Music, but I never dreamed there was music like this. It was like hearing Charlie Parker for the first time. I use this word very infrequently: this band was awesome.
And they still are awesome. I saw them live last weekend in a local club. It's the first time I drive home after a concert and turn off the radio, cause I just know that whatever they play on it would sound just stupid after what I had just heard. Amazing!
If you were born in Bulgaria that crazy time signature would come to you naturally. You don't have to think about 3/8 7/16 or 17/32 :) That kind of music is all over the place there.
This one has been on CZcams for almost twenty years on different channels - and folks still watch it and like it, for it's just such a mindblowing performance! Just Awesome musical and technical mastery...
My Music Cultures of the World professor posted this video with the following message: "I also wanted to share some amazing, almost-uncountable music from the Balkans: the amazing clarinetist Ivo Papasov and his band. Not only do they keep track of lightning-fast, odd meters, but they improvise on top of it (and always seem to know where they are)." She challenged us to count the meter of this song. I. Can't. Even.
just found a copy of Orpheus Ascending on vinyl. The most incredible jazz record of the 1980's, best thing that's happened to me all year! Absolute masterpiece!
This performance is ridiculous. I couldn't help but notice the woman sitting throughout and wonder what the deal is. At 2:48 She gets up, the tempo changes and I know it's about to go down, but have zero idea how. At 3:12 I really wanted the song to be over so I could start over and listen to it again. I've spent 60 minutes listening to a 6 minute song. That drummer and those vocals really do it for me.
I remember switching the TV as this started, didn't know what had hit me. I assumed it was some crazed avant-garde shit, but in fact it's straight-up Bulgarian folk music: they dance to 13/8, 11/16 & all those kinda math-y time signatures there. I did sound for a Bulgarian band the other night, the crowd even clapped for an encore in 7/8!
The Best Bulgarian Folk Music Group 1987-95? TRAKIA..it became a pressure(can we call it this) between Popazov and saxophonist Younakov at the and. Its sad, but their story and the concerts, CD`S will forever bee there. It nice to see the friends still Papazov and his accordion player, Neshev, still plays together:) But still..I really wish old "Trakia" could do a "reunion" in 2020:) pls...with the old members:)(from summer 87..as we all know and have seen soo many times:)
LOVE the cadenza/Bartokian fanfare at 4:32. This band is just magical; they are all scary, twisted monsters. Ivo sounds like Coltrane on acid/crack but with more chops. And I like it when they go really fast at the end. Then there's the bass player's pants...
Right before the 4:32 mark, the guitarist is rockin out and has this face like he's getting ready to rip into some mean riffs, then he strums just a basic chord progression that's the slowest part of the whole song!!! Cracked Up!!!
Actually, Bulgarian players don't count it quite the same way... e.g. 7/16 they simply count as 3 with a longish three. e.g. 1,2,3_; 1,2,3_ . Or 11/16, is 1,2,3_,4,5, etc, etc.
Thomas Green that’s not right. There is a fantastic way to play the rithm, but your english 4/4 can never understand. There’s something like 7/8, 11/12, 7+7+7+4, or 7+5/8....
Depends on the song! The one-two-threee you described is casually called as a masculine Rachenitsa, but we also have a feminine Rachenitsa which is counted with a long first beat - oneeee-two-three.
You've got it all wrong... It starts with 18/16 (it's acutally 7/16 + 11/16) 3 bars Then 6/16 4 bars. This repeats twice. Then 18/16 2 bars and 7/16 4 bars. This also repeats twice. Next is 16 bars of 7/16. Then 6 bars of 15/16 and a 2 bar break in 9/16. It then runs into 9/16 and keeps going until 2:37 where this absurd break appears. The break goes 2 bars of 12/16 and 2 bars of 15/16 repeated twice. It then goes into 2/4 (or more precisely 6/16?!?) and runs like this until the end. 4/4????
Came to this after reading Ode to a Tenor Titan: The Life and Times of Michael Brecker. He was getting into this music at the end of his life. Almost sounds like something from the mind of Frank Zappa!
Vai never got it right, and few westerners ever do. In Bulgaria odd signatures r interpreted differently. For example one of most beloved folk dances "rachenitza" is in 7/8 and and it goes 1, 2, 3ee with prolonged 3. Cheers
haha.. I came here also after watching Vai! ;) and yeah... this is some crazy stuff!.. hahaha... Im glad Im not Bulgarian or going to marry there :P I mean, I doubt every "wedding musician" has this quality!, and theres nothing worse than playing this kind of music poorly... that would be very ear damaging! :P Kudos to Ivo Papasov and his wedding band.. not bad at all... but crazy! :P
Cannot comprehend...overheating... And to think they can probably pull off a five-hour session like this... Being a Serbian neighbor and musician who's played and listened to a fair share of Balkan folk music in nonstandard time signatures, it still makes me wonder how the hell they manage to learn tunes like this note-by-note and not spend 50% of their lives sitting in a room staring at sheet music.
Funny thing is that if you even ask them about notes sheets, they'd probably wonder what that is. Most of the greatest Bulgarian musicians never went to musical school or the like, they just picked up the instrument at a very early age and by their teens, they were already playing at weddings. Growing up in Bulgaria I can tell you, weddings are insane, they can literary last around the clock. It's crazy but magical!
I've been trying to track down the source of the middle singing part for years. I'm pretty sure the instrumental part is mostly "Ранила е хубава Гроздана", but that song has a completely different lyrics and I couldn't find anything that's close enough to the words being sung in this clip. If anyone from Bulgaria knows which song it comes from please comment...
take that, dream theater
Hilarious! I love DT, but that was hilarious! (And I think this is the better band, even though I realize it's like saying Mango kicks Orange's ass; and it does, cuz Mango is the Ivo of fruits!
Also I just had 2 shots of tequila, so shudup!
Wonderful comment.
Dream who? They sound as 1 year child compare to ivo. I love DT till scenes from a memory, no more patience
@@hongoslongos5203 DT sounds like ABBA compared to this. 🤣
🤣🤣🤣
I saw this exact band in 1990 in a small jazz club. One of the most mind bending musical experiences of my life.
Me too. It was at the Kuumbwa Jazz Club in Santa Cruz. It blew us all away; so densely intricate and free at the same time...more notes per second than anyone could process, yet we got into it. Thay didn't speak a word of English. Incredible.
that's balkan polymeters for ya
Saw them live last weekend in a local club. They are still absolutely amazing!
That’s the most amazing thing I’ve ever heard
I saw these guys in a small jazz club in Santa Cruz having heard of them before. It was a unique experience; we're still trying to process what we heard. We loved it.They didn't speak a word of English. We all spoke music. I wish these Night Music shows would be released. Every one was unique and amazing. David Sanborn had great taste in music. I recorded a few on VHS.
Everyone: What time signature is this?
Ivo Papasov: YES!
You mean time signatures. Plural! I’ve been listening to his stuff for years it’s mind-boggling.
Here down the chat already explained 11 year ago : "It starts with 18/16 (it's acutally 7/16 + 11/16) 3 bars
Then 6/16 4 bars. This repeats twice. Then 18/16 2 bars and 7/16 4 bars. This also repeats twice. Next is 16 bars of 7/16. Then 6 bars of 15/16 and a 2 bar break in 9/16. It then runs into 9/16 and keeps going until 2:37 where this absurd break appears. The break goes 2 bars of 12/16 and 2 bars of 15/16 repeated twice. It then goes into 2/4 (or more precisely 6/16?!?) and runs like this until the end."
@@pasullica so... YES!
This is a wedding band. Imagine this band playing this song on your wedding day
A friend of mine is getting married in August and she asked me to recommend her a band to play at her wedding. Guess who I recommended. Now she is actually trying to arrange them to play there.
I have much respect for Bulgarians when it comes to their incredible musicianship and discipline to write such amazing pieces like these. Much respect from an Albanian
For anyone wondering, the song is "Kopanitsa" from the 1989 release "Orpheus Ascending".
More like descending....flat into the ground.
@@einarabelc5 what
His solo on the album version might be even better. Gonna be transcribing it soon
so incredibly hard if you dont play an instrument you might not be able to fully appreciate whats going on here ..........
my God ....... just ............ insane .
Най-великия показва как трябва да се свири.
keyboard solo gets me every time. and the way the whole things just stops at the end. brilliant.
I'll never forget the night I woke up in the middle of the night and decided to see if there was something on the tube that would help get me back to sleep. Tuned in just as Dave introduced these guys. My life has never been the same. Where can I get more in 11, 13, or 17?
pbwbrian53 I, too, watched this after I came home from a gig the night it aired. Absolutely jaw-dropping. Don't know about you, but I sure as hell couldn't get right to sleep after hearing this!
+321snoot I too saw it that night and was recording it. Never got toired of playing it for people.
Meshuggah - Do Not Look Down is in 17
I remember watching this in 1989 (GREAT TV show) and it made the hair on my arms stand on end. I had been listening to the Bulgarian Women's Chorus (also fantastic), and Andy Irvine's interpretations of Balkan Music, but I never dreamed there was music like this. It was like hearing Charlie Parker for the first time. I use this word very infrequently: this band was awesome.
And they still are awesome. I saw them live last weekend in a local club. It's the first time I drive home after a concert and turn off the radio, cause I just know that whatever they play on it would sound just stupid after what I had just heard. Amazing!
If you were born in Bulgaria that crazy time signature would come to you naturally. You don't have to think about 3/8 7/16 or 17/32 :) That kind of music is all over the place there.
Why I've never heard of Prog Bulgarian drummers then?
exactly
@@einarabelc5 cause prog rock is just crap
@@tetrusadima i think prog rock is a stupid label by people who like to classify things. It either jams or it doesnt
I was blown away when I first saw this show ... and still am!
This one has been on CZcams for almost twenty years on different channels - and folks still watch it and like it, for it's just such a mindblowing performance! Just Awesome musical and technical mastery...
My Music Cultures of the World professor posted this video with the following message: "I also wanted to share some amazing, almost-uncountable music from the Balkans: the amazing clarinetist Ivo Papasov and his band. Not only do they keep track of lightning-fast, odd meters, but they improvise on top of it (and always seem to know where they are)." She challenged us to count the meter of this song. I. Can't. Even.
just found a copy of Orpheus Ascending on vinyl. The most incredible jazz record of the 1980's, best thing that's happened to me all year! Absolute masterpiece!
I'm a professional musician and I've used this with students for years as the best example of weird odd-meter stuff around.
I like the premise that there's a thread of a bass line running through all this!
Anyone who could transcribe this, and in the right time signature, would be the greatest musician of all time! ha Go Ivo!
@George Collier could possibly do a decent job of it if they decide to do it.
Holy crap! Been a musician all my life and I've got no idea whats going on here. How you can groove like that to such odd meters I have no idea.
Balkan stuff mate
It's a really fast 7/8. Copy and paste this after the CZcams URL to see how people dance to a very similar song
/watch?v=UOH_quKtnRk
m.czcams.com/video/UOH_quKtnRk/video.html
Целият свят да се съберат немогат да изсвирят такава музика поклон!!!!!!!!
The greatest clarinet! His music is unhuman and yet nothing makes you feel so much like a human.
Stevie Vai brought me here.
Completely out of their minds, as he said.
This performance is ridiculous.
I couldn't help but notice the woman sitting throughout and wonder what the deal is. At 2:48 She gets up, the tempo changes and I know it's about to go down, but have zero idea how. At 3:12 I really wanted the song to be over so I could start over and listen to it again.
I've spent 60 minutes listening to a 6 minute song. That drummer and those vocals really do it for me.
Full analysis is found in this book - Bulgarian Harmony In Village, Wedding, and Choral Music of the Last Century by Kalin S. Kirilov
The woman is Mariya Karafezieva, who is married to Ivo Papasov.
Omg the tempo after the key solo was on 🔥!!!!!!
Честит юбилей Легендо.Бъди жив и здрав ти и цялата ти фамилия.
това.е.човекат.който.ме.събужда.от.сън.познавам.неговата.музика.и.на.сън.защото.няма.кой.да.свири.като.папазов.и.след.200г
The time signature on this is crazy...they make it look so easy
I remember switching the TV as this started, didn't know what had hit me. I assumed it was some crazed avant-garde shit, but in fact it's straight-up Bulgarian folk music: they dance to 13/8, 11/16 & all those kinda math-y time signatures there. I did sound for a Bulgarian band the other night, the crowd even clapped for an encore in 7/8!
bulgaria great this style music
It's not only Bulgaria. Whole Balkan has odd rhythm music in different time signatures. You can say that Bulgaria is in the fastest tempo 😊
Good God. That is musical insanity..... what a hero !!
Dear God... My musical brain just exploded
Those guys are GODS!!!
БРАВО!
Imagine being a snake and this man just pulls up with his clarinette
Ivo Papazov is king!
Номер1 за всички времена
The Best Bulgarian Folk Music Group 1987-95? TRAKIA..it became a pressure(can we call it this) between Popazov and saxophonist Younakov at the and. Its sad, but their story and the concerts, CD`S will forever bee there. It nice to see the friends still Papazov and his accordion player, Neshev, still plays together:) But still..I really wish old "Trakia" could do a "reunion" in 2020:) pls...with the old members:)(from summer 87..as we all know and have seen soo many times:)
LOVE the cadenza/Bartokian fanfare at 4:32. This band is just magical; they are all scary, twisted monsters. Ivo sounds like Coltrane on acid/crack but with more chops. And I like it when they go really fast at the end. Then there's the bass player's pants...
0 F*s given by all those guys. That's my definition of bad ass :)
Cameron Hood Bartok was very influenced by folklore, and he was Hungarian, very close to the Balkans, so this makes a lot of sense :)
This definitely goes on my funeral music spot. Wedding or funeral, which when i think about it is kind of the same.
Bloody amazing phrasing and speed
Welcome to our Balkan world 😀😀💪💪
aachh achh , what great music this is, like from another planet, with never ending energy
Усъвършенствал кралнето номер 1 за всички времена легенда
now this is my kinda wedding im hiring them 100%
I want the kind of swagger that shoulder-organ guy has
🤣🤣🤣
That's an accordion
@@johnnysuede3156 you're an accordion
Shoulder Organ LMAOOO :D
I feel like im being chased by little people in a maze and cant get out...
Actually, kopanica is a kind of a very lively, powerful group dance
somewhat psychotic little people, but not too terribly aggressive
@@jag0937eb Why little?
@@MsSlucyna IDK, ask Neil Tipton , it's his little people.
Даде тон в музиката и всички го имитират, кой - по сполучливо, кой по-малко, жив и здрав да е Ибряма!
Thanks Steve Vai, Very Cool
one of the guitarists Steve Vai?
@@moonlight_94
Steve said he's a fan of this because it doesn't resemble Western music at all 😂
Up next on 'So you think you can play the clarinet'
That’s right ;) greetings from Bulgaria
Check this one. Another crazy jazz performance from them... czcams.com/video/i3FfXjcw6Mk/video.html
The keyboard solo made so casual that it could leave cory henry like that "disoriented john travolta" meme
Right before the 4:32 mark, the guitarist is rockin out and has this face like he's getting ready to rip into some mean riffs, then he strums just a basic chord progression that's the slowest part of the whole song!!! Cracked Up!!!
ivo droppin fire fr 🔥
Actually, Bulgarian players don't count it quite the same way... e.g. 7/16 they simply count as 3 with a longish three. e.g. 1,2,3_; 1,2,3_ . Or 11/16, is 1,2,3_,4,5, etc, etc.
Spot on explanation 👌 Bravo from the Balkans!
Thomas Green Yep, it's like one,two, thre-e-e, one,two,thre-e-e !
Thomas Green that’s not right. There is a fantastic way to play the rithm, but your english 4/4 can never understand. There’s something like 7/8, 11/12, 7+7+7+4, or 7+5/8....
That's correct. But the dancers...this tempo...😲😲😲
Depends on the song!
The one-two-threee you described is casually called as a masculine Rachenitsa, but we also have a feminine Rachenitsa which is counted with a long first beat - oneeee-two-three.
İVO PAPAZOV NOMER EDNO 👍👍👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
Bravoo 👍👍
Did everybody dance? I love this music. I call it dancin' in yo head. Don't try to capture it, just let it flow.
Late Michael Brecker was crazy about this music, and here one can understand why! He even took lessons
Accidently played this at 2x speed and it felt like my brain was melting!
Who's here thanks to Adam? BASS
me
Billy Trespassers the lick in 5/8 that’s on that thumbnails actually fun to plau
Me, and so thankful. Immediately hooked. This shit is wild
Frenk Zappa will love this shit!!!!
Thanx Bill burr fer tha recommendation 🎉
Wtf😂Where did he recommend this song?
Where did he say this
scioccato!! impressionante
I need a bride that can accurately dance to this
Try"bulgarian know how to dance"
I NEED A CD OF THIS
3:47 epic solo
O'lBilly Bulgarian drumming fan...
Thanx Mr.Vai
You've got it all wrong...
It starts with 18/16 (it's acutally 7/16 + 11/16) 3 bars
Then 6/16 4 bars. This repeats twice. Then 18/16 2 bars and 7/16 4 bars. This also repeats twice. Next is 16 bars of 7/16. Then 6 bars of 15/16 and a 2 bar break in 9/16. It then runs into 9/16 and keeps going until 2:37 where this absurd break appears. The break goes 2 bars of 12/16 and 2 bars of 15/16 repeated twice. It then goes into 2/4 (or more precisely 6/16?!?) and runs like this until the end.
4/4????
thx, this cleared everything. Now, where is my calculator
This is sort of like an explanation of Tenet.
I'm here because of Steve Vai XD
Zappa boi
Awesome.
all they are great musicians - im listening Ivo&Co Ltd already many years, but this percussionist - 7th wonder at least.
Came to this after reading Ode to a Tenor Titan: The Life and Times of Michael Brecker. He was getting into this music at the end of his life. Almost sounds like something from the mind of Frank Zappa!
I like the "stinger" at the end after all that came before it. (a stinger is the very last note they played) Hilarious.
kralj !!!
some of the craziest shit ive ever heard
this is pretty much the greatest thing ever. EVER.
btw, the song is 'na trapesa' from the album 'orpheus ascending'.
I wonder how many people looked up Bulgarian wedding music because of Steve Vai?
Zappa worthy...
Vai never got it right, and few westerners ever do. In Bulgaria odd signatures r interpreted differently. For example one of most beloved folk dances "rachenitza" is in 7/8 and and it goes 1, 2, 3ee with prolonged 3. Cheers
I want this played at my funeral while being lowered into the earth.
5:41 = King
Fastest band in the west, uh, east.
now i k what steve via was saying WOW
what the...
haha.. I came here also after watching Vai! ;) and yeah... this is some crazy stuff!.. hahaha... Im glad Im not Bulgarian or going to marry there :P I mean, I doubt every "wedding musician" has this quality!, and theres nothing worse than playing this kind of music poorly... that would be very ear damaging! :P Kudos to Ivo Papasov and his wedding band.. not bad at all... but crazy! :P
btw... if you want to hear even more of his music.. search for: Иво Папазов
This song is on their C.D. orpheous ascending, but this versiion is 10000x better.
The only way to dance to this is by having a seizure.
All I can here is freak show!
czcams.com/video/kEydtl8bYGM/video.html
Don't worry we dance on it,
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@@user-mj4el3vp5w тия са доста тъпи и схванати агенти
Thanks Bill
Master Papaz!
Cannot comprehend...overheating...
And to think they can probably pull off a five-hour session like this...
Being a Serbian neighbor and musician who's played and listened to a fair share of Balkan folk music in nonstandard time signatures, it still makes me wonder how the hell they manage to learn tunes like this note-by-note and not spend 50% of their lives sitting in a room staring at sheet music.
Funny thing is that if you even ask them about notes sheets, they'd probably wonder what that is. Most of the greatest Bulgarian musicians never went to musical school or the like, they just picked up the instrument at a very early age and by their teens, they were already playing at weddings. Growing up in Bulgaria I can tell you, weddings are insane, they can literary last around the clock. It's crazy but magical!
крца и после оволико година! :Д
Actually Ivo told in one interview that on one wedding he made 12 hour playing 3 hour sleep and than playing again
I know the vocals are the focus when she starts singing at 3:04 however that sliding bass line in the background is beautifully sad
Makes sense when you're going so fast, when you think about it.
Tintoria qui
Steve Vai brought me here
Grazie ad Alex Britti per avermi portato qui
Even at 0.75× speed this is neck-breaking.
wooooow!!!
I've been trying to track down the source of the middle singing part for years. I'm pretty sure the instrumental part is mostly "Ранила е хубава Гроздана", but that song has a completely different lyrics and I couldn't find anything that's close enough to the words being sung in this clip. If anyone from Bulgaria knows which song it comes from please comment...
This song inspires Steve Vai to write "Freak Show Excess" ??
Apparently Steve Vai takes some inspiration from music like this for his quirky kinda guitar licks. :)
The most irrationally intense music on earth.
Goooooooing up!
He was playing so fast that the simulation lagged