Excellent explanation. I choose to temperature surf. My explanation is that I have learned what my machine does with temperature and by emptying the boiler (using the hot water switch) I can get to a consistent 210-215 at the start of the brew, which is about 190 out. Since I use darker roasts, this results in a pretty consistent shot. I could empty a bit less from the boiler and get a higher base temperature if I wanted to brew a lighter roast, but I find that with the coffees I use, I don’t need to do that. More work, yes. However for my machine (and every Silvia is a bit different…which is why we love them?), this is just fine. If you feel you need a PID, by all means get one…
Great feedback thanks, great to hear the Silvia is working well for you, its a great machine - and 100% can pump out a great espresso stock, - it sounds like you have perfected your system, and its good input for those out there contemplating or thinking they are missing out on something , PID or not - enjoy the espresso you are making - best Pete - and I like the awareness and sharing the bean roast level to temperature advice is likely helpful also a lot of people miss that
Thanks for the videos. You convinced me to add a PID to a gifted Sylvia (a bit worse for wear unfortunately) that I was/am refurbishing. I chose the pre-infusion model (debates to be had there of course), and the install went fine. I do like the inbuilt brew timer. I tinkered with the pressure at the OPV. Cone spanners from a cycling shop are nice & slim , 20 mm ones are available on line but I had to file out some 18 mm ones. Worked fine. My copy of the portafilter gauge is a dud it seems. But it is all getting closer to a proper shot. Thanks again.
I know absolutely nothing about this brewer but I do play with PIDs used as heater control. Not sure how big the boiler tank is but it would be nice to be able to get a PT100 down into the water of the boiler for the PID temp feed back. Even better if you could tune the PID to hold temp while it's pumping water. :) I use thermocouples in my heating systems but only out of necessity because of high temperatures. PT100 / PT1000 sensors are more accurate and have better great repeatability.
Clay time to pick up a ☕️ Silvia and work out those water temp stability ideas 👍🏻all are solid ! - good luck-let us know ! Pete 300 ml = 10 US fluid ounces Coffee/Steam Boiler Capacity: 0.3L What is the volume of the Silvia boiler? 12 oz. The single 12-ounce brass boiler serves both brew and steam temperatures 12 oz./10.5 oz. minus heating element pidsilvia.com/silvia1.htm
Hi Pete! Great video, very interesting. Just bought me a secondhand Silvia and i am right now busy with learning how to use this. Starting to get a feeling for the temps of this brewer, i guess/hope i can do it without PID in the future. BTW: how did you manage to attach the manometer to the portafilter? Greetings from the Black Forest!👋🙂
Thanks and good luck with the Silvia, - you will be fine , the gauge screws/threads on once you remove the spout -if that is what you mean ? best Pete * Im sure if you dig through the library I likely cover and/or have links to purchase, but - what I often hear back is items tend to be out of stock, no longer carried etc - maybe this theespressoshop.co.uk/en/Universal-Grouphead-Pressure-Gauge-38-0-16-Bar/m-2756.aspx czcams.com/users/shortsMCl_IyfgE8A?si=qrO8lzItUrRrNOVh
Hello, I would like some clarification if someone can. I am speaking in Celcius. My problem: When I set my Auber PID with stock settings to 104 I hear air in the boiler and PID reads temps from 102 up to 106. While brewing I get some steam comming out of grouphead Does this mean the water is over 100? When I set it on 103 it is perfectly stable, no sound of air in the boiler and I never get steam out of brew head.
whats that then 217/218 F? I like the avoiding steam so maybe park it there, I tend to run in the 222F I think, if I leave it on all day I might get a bit of steam- but for the first hour or two I dont think so- (?) thats what I do like about the videos, - as it shows what really is happening - Pete
its far less impressive or sophisticated than it appears, its very much just a thermocouple wrapped in saran wrap, pinched into and between group and portafilter - 100% home made DIY, to only get a guesstimate like many of my projects to get a very basic idea of water temp in this area - far from scientific or conclusive - but provides a starting place to compare to PID and final shot temp etc - thanks Pete
Hey Pete, have you seen Lelit Anna with PID? I’m about to get a new machine, but I don’t know which one would be better, what you think? Rancilio or lelit anna(pid)
Gabe, the Anna hits some pretty solid points at a gentle price point - don't ya think? PID, pressure gauge, 3 way valve, it offers pretty much all you can be looking for in a single boiler? And the money saved (compared to a Silvia with PID) could go toward your grinder putting you in even better shape. Slightly smaller 57mm basket, (but baskets, tamper and bottomless portafilter appear available ) but when comparing them for good or bad - I wouldn't anticipate a huge regret or buyer remorse by going either way, you mention about to get a new machine - as in new to replace another you are currently using or its going to be your first time machine ? - in either case, both appear to be able to provide a strong starting spot for a home machine capable of producing good espresso - the rest will be up to you! Good luck, let us know what you decide to do - Im curious - best Pete czcams.com/video/7_T918HYT_k/video.html czcams.com/video/rCVNoQ5INSI/video.html
@@petesranciliosilvia3777 Hey Pete! it will be my second machine. I currently own a Breville duo boiler. i have no complaints about my current machine. but Breville is fully automated, if something breaks I just can't fix it easily. so I think about having a second option at home. About Lilith, it's exactly what you said, it has everything you need, PID+ Pressure gauge. I see good reviews from this machine. Lelit's only issue is the 57 group, it's a bit difficult to find accessories, but not impossible. thank you very much for the answer and for the attention you give us. Your channel is great, keep it up!
Excellent explanation. I choose to temperature surf.
My explanation is that I have learned what my machine does with temperature and by emptying the boiler (using the hot water switch) I can get to a consistent 210-215 at the start of the brew, which is about 190 out. Since I use darker roasts, this results in a pretty consistent shot. I could empty a bit less from the boiler and get a higher base temperature if I wanted to brew a lighter roast, but I find that with the coffees I use, I don’t need to do that.
More work, yes. However for my machine (and every Silvia is a bit different…which is why we love them?), this is just fine.
If you feel you need a PID, by all means get one…
Great feedback thanks, great to hear the Silvia is working well for you, its a great machine - and 100% can pump out a great espresso stock, - it sounds like you have perfected your system, and its good input for those out there contemplating or thinking they are missing out on something , PID or not - enjoy the espresso you are making - best Pete - and I like the awareness and sharing the bean roast level to temperature advice is likely helpful also a lot of people miss that
Thanks for the videos. You convinced me to add a PID to a gifted Sylvia (a bit worse for wear unfortunately) that I was/am refurbishing. I chose the pre-infusion model (debates to be had there of course), and the install went fine. I do like the inbuilt brew timer. I tinkered with the pressure at the OPV. Cone spanners from a cycling shop are nice & slim , 20 mm ones are available on line but I had to file out some 18 mm ones. Worked fine. My copy of the portafilter gauge is a dud it seems. But it is all getting closer to a proper shot. Thanks again.
Peter great work enjoy your Silvia best Pete
Great information and explanation . Well done !
thanks Pete
Great video Pete, very informative 👍
Thanks and thanks for watching best Pete
Wow best explanation I have seen so far
Thanks for the effort
Thanks Pete
I know absolutely nothing about this brewer but I do play with PIDs used as heater control. Not sure how big the boiler tank is but it would be nice to be able to get a PT100 down into the water of the boiler for the PID temp feed back. Even better if you could tune the PID to hold temp while it's pumping water. :) I use thermocouples in my heating systems but only out of necessity because of high temperatures. PT100 / PT1000 sensors are more accurate and have better great repeatability.
Clay time to pick up a ☕️ Silvia and work out those water temp stability ideas 👍🏻all are solid ! - good luck-let us know ! Pete
300 ml = 10 US fluid ounces
Coffee/Steam Boiler Capacity: 0.3L
What is the volume of the Silvia boiler? 12 oz.
The single 12-ounce brass boiler serves both brew and steam temperatures
12 oz./10.5 oz. minus heating element
pidsilvia.com/silvia1.htm
Hi Pete! Great video, very interesting. Just bought me a secondhand Silvia and i am right now busy with learning how to use this. Starting to get a feeling for the temps of this brewer, i guess/hope i can do it without PID in the future. BTW: how did you manage to attach the manometer to the portafilter? Greetings from the Black Forest!👋🙂
Thanks and good luck with the Silvia, - you will be fine , the gauge screws/threads on once you remove the spout -if that is what you mean ? best Pete
* Im sure if you dig through the library I likely cover and/or have links to purchase, but - what I often hear back is items tend to be out of stock, no longer carried etc -
maybe this
theespressoshop.co.uk/en/Universal-Grouphead-Pressure-Gauge-38-0-16-Bar/m-2756.aspx
czcams.com/users/shortsMCl_IyfgE8A?si=qrO8lzItUrRrNOVh
What do you think of the proftec Go
Hello, I would like some clarification if someone can.
I am speaking in Celcius.
My problem: When I set my Auber PID with stock settings to 104 I hear air in the boiler and PID reads temps from 102 up to 106.
While brewing I get some steam comming out of grouphead
Does this mean the water is over 100?
When I set it on 103 it is perfectly stable, no sound of air in the boiler and I never get steam out of brew head.
whats that then 217/218 F? I like the avoiding steam so maybe park it there, I tend to run in the 222F I think, if I leave it on all day I might get a bit of steam- but for the first hour or two I dont think so- (?) thats what I do like about the videos, - as it shows what really is happening - Pete
Can you make a video about steaming milk for lattes with the Rancilio? I try and tried and can't get it right.
gsb I am espresso only over here - good luck it takes practice, maybe a future video - best Pete
6:37 hey Pete, where did you get this thermometer setup for the grouphead? I’d like to measure my own to dial in the temp. Thanks!
its far less impressive or sophisticated than it appears, its very much just a thermocouple wrapped in saran wrap, pinched into and between group and portafilter - 100% home made DIY, to only get a guesstimate like many of my projects to get a very basic idea of water temp in this area - far from scientific or conclusive - but provides a starting place to compare to PID and final shot temp etc - thanks Pete
Hey Pete, have you seen Lelit Anna with PID? I’m about to get a new machine, but I don’t know which one would be better, what you think? Rancilio or lelit anna(pid)
Gabe, the Anna hits some pretty solid points at a gentle price point - don't ya think? PID, pressure gauge, 3 way valve, it offers pretty much all you can be looking for in a single boiler? And the money saved (compared to a Silvia with PID) could go toward your grinder putting you in even better shape. Slightly smaller 57mm basket, (but baskets, tamper and bottomless portafilter appear available ) but when comparing them for good or bad - I wouldn't anticipate a huge regret or buyer remorse by going either way, you mention about to get a new machine - as in new to replace another you are currently using or its going to be your first time machine ? - in either case, both appear to be able to provide a strong starting spot for a home machine capable of producing good espresso - the rest will be up to you! Good luck, let us know what you decide to do - Im curious - best Pete
czcams.com/video/7_T918HYT_k/video.html
czcams.com/video/rCVNoQ5INSI/video.html
@@petesranciliosilvia3777 Hey Pete!
it will be my second machine. I currently own a Breville duo boiler.
i have no complaints about my current machine. but Breville is fully automated, if something breaks I just can't fix it easily. so I think about having a second option at home.
About Lilith, it's exactly what you said, it has everything you need, PID+ Pressure gauge.
I see good reviews from this machine.
Lelit's only issue is the 57 group, it's a bit difficult to find accessories, but not impossible.
thank you very much for the answer and for the attention you give us. Your channel is great, keep it up!
How do I get a pid and how to install
try
www.auberins.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=6
thanks good luck - Pete