Holosun LE221G IR / VIS Laser
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In this episode, Ivan Loomis provides an in-depth review of the Holosun LE221 G laser. He discusses the onboard switch, settings, and shares his personal usage experience. He critically analyses the IR laser and emitter's position, and the mount's potential issues. The episode concludes with a discussion on customizing the gun to personal needs.
Loadout
Griffin Armament 11.5" Mk2
Griffin Armament Recce 5K Silencer
Holosun LE221G Laser
SureFire Scout Vampire Light
100 Concepts Light Cap
Unity Tactical Axon
Holosun AEMS
AMMJ Solutions Adapter Plate
Scalarworks LEAP Mount
Die Free Co. Kung-Fu Grip
Sierra Tac Padded Sling
Prometheus Design Werx AG Watch Cap
PDW Paladin Hoodie
SKD Tactical Cold Weather Gloves
0:00 Introduction and Overview of Hollow Sun LE 221 G
1:18 Discussion on Laser's Onboard Switch and Settings
4:08 Evaluation and Usage Experience of the Laser
5:55 Detailed Discussion on IR Laser and Emitter's Position
7:19 Critique and Issues with the Laser's Mount
10:33 Durability of the Unit
11:45 Building the Gun for Your Needs
13:16 Conclusion and Purchase Information
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I have a fix for the qd lever that I used for my LE 117.
I used a very small nut and bolt that I cut to length. I put it through the hole behind the little latch. That thing is now rock solid. Basically the bolt locks the little grabby nub in place. Not qd anymore anymore, but qd is a meme anyway.
It’s always nice to get a review with a critique no one else seems to talk about.
Absolutely!
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I have the LS 321 on a BCM 14.5 and it's been mounted to the rifle for at least 1200 rounds now and it's stayed put. One thing I will say though is I know that Holosun is not known for their mount quality so when I first got it I disassembled the mount and flipped it around, then reassembled it with blue loctite. I also tightened the QD mount itself (quite a bit). I just run a converging zero at 50 yards, got done shooting yesterday and confirmed my zero at 50. Hope this helps anyone who's having any troubles.🤙
The LS321 has the same mount style, just on the right side vice the left. While mine hasn't backed out (yet), I also place my SF Scout M600 right up against it to protect the wire and help keep the mount locked in place. Not an ideal solution, and still needs long term testing but it's what I have observed.
You can swap the mount on the ls32q so the lever is pointed towards the front of the laser. This should prevent the recoil movement issue.
I have the LE117IR, which is the same body but IR only. I haven’t had any issues with the mount. I just make sure to tighten the cross bolt after closing the QD lever.
Appreciate your reviews
Awesome informative video. Thanks for what you do.
Crazy this just popped up in my feed. I just got my Holosun LE117G from Brownell’s this afternoon. Haven’t even had time to unbox it yet. Nope, my phone isn’t listening to me. Looking forward to trying it out.
Awesome review
I have LE321G and the same mount. You need to loctite and torque the screw on the opposite side of the laser. Your video showing you flipping the lever showed me it’s to loose. I tightened mine up before the install and haven’t had an issue in 2k rounds
I have 2 different LAM's. One and the first I got is the Streamlight VIR2. More or less the pistol light. Love it. The other is a cheap Chinese rechargeable Votatu or something like that. The Votatu doesn't have IR light but, does have slaved Vis and IR. Holds zero. The Streamlight has 2 modes Vis White light in IR mode it is IR light and laser. Like the Streamlight best. Still testing the other. So far so good. Most nights the IR laser is all you need.
Had the same issue with mine and used a zip tie to keep the mount from coming undone. Other than that the laser is great paired with a vampire and unity switch.
I have the HE117IR, haven't had a problem with the lever popping loose. I'm going to have to get that Unity switch, because the Surefire dual lead is difficult to actuate with one thumb. I found that the 3v vampire and the ir laser are easily good for 200m.
I've noticed holosun's qd mounting systems come with varrying ammounts of tension. You can actually adjust it to tighten it up and it should get a more positive lock.
I just weaved a tie wrap through the laser. Mine hasn't come loose, but I seen the potential for it to.
I have the same unit that I've used for LE duty use for the past year and a half. I have not experienced the same release issue with the mount that you have, also, sample size of one.
I found the my Holosun laser that I have the windage and elevation are opposite and the adjustment were in the opposite direction also. Took me a while to zero, but it works now and the throw lever does suck it pops off randomly
Go with the LS version of the Holosun IR lasers and retrofit them with the American Defense Manufacturing Holosun LS Optic QD Mount.
Those are compatible?
Good info
I have a fix for the qd lever that I used for my LE 117.
I used a very small nut and bolt that I cut to length. I put it through the hole behind the little latch. That thing is now rock solid. Basically the bolt locks the little grabby nub in place. Not qd anymore anymore, but qd is a meme anyway
Concur on the mount. I let my brother shoot my rifle with an LS321G on it and the laser came loose after 3 rounds
Good place for an aftermarket company to come in and make a mount that doesn’t suck (Arisaka)
Mount lever has an adjustable screw on opposite side.
Currently I have two of these. Thus far I have not had the unit come loose. With that said, I have shot with one of them quite a bit more than the other. The one that I have used the most, has held zero for more than a year. Granted, I only have perhaps 2K rounds with that setup. The other setup only about 100 rounds as I recently purchased it. Despite the lasers being next to each other horizontally, the math is easier. I am not sure why having the laser over the bore is not an industry standard. Even canting the gun still has a higher margin of error while using other standard lasers. Have you canted it sufficiently? You can't get around the fact that the barrel has a slight upward angle while perpendicular to the ground. When we do cant the gun the barrel is now slightly canted up and to one side or the other depending on which side the laser is being emitted from. The day that lasers are completely over the bore will truly increase the max effective range of these devices for people who aren't spending all day everyday getting dope on their laser.
Good critique on the mount. Would the throw arm be able to be safety wired to the rail, to keep it from hinging open?
The mount hasn’t popped open on me but it did loosen itself while shooting
I just ended up throwing a zip tie over the whole body to keep the throw lever down
I think it might be the usual holosun hit and miss as far as QC is concerned with the mount, I run both Le117 and Le221 for very hard use and they don't budge, well over 50k on the Le117 without losing zero. Your mileage may vary but the same can be said for most lasers both mil and civ.
As a bandaid fix you could get some aircraft safety wire and wire that lever to your handguard.
I'm not sure about the le221 but I own the ls321 and on that model the mount is reversible so the throw lever will be pointing forward. Haven't had the same issue with my mount in this configuration if you can swap the mount around that might help.
I can't understand why the mount lever would come loose. Is it a defect. The same lever on the 509c. Never had a problem with it.
Whaaaat wow iv run mine a ton and my lever never moved on both mine. Odd problem to have
Solid video, what helmet and mount do you use?
Does that switch keep white line on with a press? I have a switch that double press will keep the laser on but not the surefire
Nice analysis….
Not positive on this but i have heard others tighten the mount down, have yet to experiment with my own
Wouldn’t you prefer a red laser over a green for cold climate use? I read somewhere that green lasers don’t work so well when you start to approach freezing temperatures (below 5C or something). Thanks for this review and saving me a lot of money. Thought it would be a good combo with the vampire light, but I’ll save my money for an updated version.
I’ve had zero issue with green and live in Alaska, and only shoot at night in winter months.
considering that the PEQ laser is offset, i can live with the laser issue on this. The mount?? Can be remedied, but i feel you on this. I haven't played with one personally, but there isn't a way to tighten them down?
at 4:38 what camera setup did you use to get this shot?
I have used the LS 321G and the LE117 IR and haven't seen this issue before. I think it probably is a quality control issue. That little locking piece on the QD for both of mine are very strong, so makes me think yours may be defective.
Obviously just my anecdotal evidence though
Glad that I watched your video on the Hollow Son [ sic ]( applies in my sarcastic naming) IR/VIS laser. I was really hoping it would fare so much better... my Grandson will be disappointed. Two questions if I might...
1) Will the supplied throw lever unscrew from the mount, and is it removable, to allow a bolt and nut to remedy this affliction?
2) ( off subject... whose trigger do you use in that ( Griffin Armament 11.5" ) particular rifle?
I could not place it... and you being a content creator I follow... it might be a something to try out... after a match practice torture test. Do you mind giving me the particulars ( your opinion ) on features, quality, feel, etcetera? Not that it's in the spectrum of this video... so I understand if you do not want to get into that. Thank you young man!
Respectfully, Seth
Thinking maybe you could drill a 1/16th hole in the arm and just safety wire the the dent button so it can't move and call it a day.
Good laser. Swat approved
I figured you were gonna go in the direction of not needing full power lasers....until youve done work in some pretty urban areas under nods. High power has so many reasons why it exists. In very urban areas where ive still needed to use nods to reduce my signature, low settings just werent cutting it. past about 100 meters, i had to really look for my laser. So...i switched it to high power and i was able to see it again. Thats one of the many other reasons why you would want something full power. Yes, even as a civilian.
What kind of mlok covers are those?
What mount are you using with the AEMS?
How would you recommend this on a SP5?
Honestly, zip-tie, it would be almost guaranteed to stay locked. Because as you said- when are you going to take it off-- probably when you're changing your rifle's config at a bench anyway.
I have the ls221g/ir. What’s the difference between these two? Also, should I return for a ls321 g/ir/ilum? I dont have night vision yet, I guess I should future proof myself.
I have a Cloud rein 3.0 so I’m not going vamp route. I also don’t need the white light in the lam just the ir and ilum. Thanks!@@oo-ru5lt
Is the “E” for eye safe?
Could you perhaps rubber band the clamp closed To keep it from shaking open ?
The mount design looks identical to the one they use on their magnifiers as well as the Aimpoint style QD mounts. I have several of those (not this laser though, they are illegal for civilians here in Germany -.-) and I've never had any issues with them coming off on their own. Including on .308 guns, let alone ARs. So I suspect that this particular mount is defective. Maybe the spring for the lever release button is too weak or damaged. Maybe get in touch with Holosun? They are usually pretty good when it comes to customer support.
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It seems like that shouldn't be an issue. For what it cost, send it back. I would at least call them., Too much money to just deal with it. Good review.
E for Emitter?
Ivan, I've been an operator at a power plant and one thing I can tell you with years of experience: fuck engineers.
Not trying to make excuses but ive shot peq15s off my rifle before
It sounded great til that terrible laser poi shift
try bailing wire
if you turn the hollersun unit around, the QD will face the right way
You can’t turn the LE model around. The mount is machined into the unit. This fix only works on their LS models.
exactly. you just turn the whole unit around. The mount will face forward so inertia wont open it accidentally@@christoperdevore3617
How many people really need qd mounts for accessories that define a rifle's purpose (and often cost most than the gun itself)? Give me a simple and bombproof torx cross bolt and call it a snag free stay in place day.
The (E) elite version is stylish and pretty, but you pay for it. The (S) standard version will save you nearly $200! The naming issue is what happens when you let an engineer name a product. If you don't know, true engineers have a disability in naming things. So expect names like 1234, S for standard with a number, and the use of M for mark or model. A great example is the RAL powder coat numbers!
Maybe zip tie the fuck out of the qd lever into a rail slot on the opposite side of the rail. I hope you understand what I’m trying to say, like stick a zip tie through the hole in the qd while putting tension towards the closed position and then anchor the zip tie around the closest rail opening on the opposite side
Would that work to some extent??
if you want a hot garbage QD for an IR device, look no further than Steiner's (DBAL D2). Its not adjustable and only gets tight on like 1 out of 5 rails, and then Steiner will take 3 months ro replace it.
Have a D2. Have not had that issue with mine thankfully. I am getting a new rail soon and hope thats not an issue later 😅
So many products are ruined by one component. A gun with bad mags, a knife with a terrible sheath, optics and lasers with bad mounts. You would think that some quick testing could have highlighted the mount issue before full production.
The mount is actually just poorly designed, I had gotten one of their red dots with the same mount and it had zero tension on the little catch. That why I got rid of it.
My guess is the QD/throw lever was designed with airsoft guys in mind
The E always for Equity. Come on now, it’s 2024.
Also, this is wild timing. I was just looking at griffin Armament rifles this morning for the first time ever.
I haven't read all the comments, so if someone else has suggested this please forgive the redundancy. Couldn't you just zip tie the damn arm down/across/whatever? If you're not going to be switching from rifle to rifle a lot(and really, even if you are) that would be a pretty easy fix. Granted, you shouldn't need to do that at all, but it seems you do. I just thought that might be a work around for you.
That's what I'm saying, or bubba the hell out of it and duct tape/Paracord/ranger band the damn thing.
Thats what Im doing.
Definitely 2001 style, But a ziptie would help. Not defending this thing btw
dont spend your money guys. save money and buy good equipment
can barley hear you. Please punch up the audio.
Holosun is infamous for their crap native mounts.
>So you can blind people?
This is absolute cope
We should be able to have mil spec lazers
Simply because its cool
And this is fucking america
You just need to tighten the screw on the other side, come on man this is basic stuff.
Yeah no. A lot of civilian limited IR lasers are washed out by illuminators. That's insufficient
Only surfing for info on the Halosun, but im guessing this is a wealthy guy with toys to play with. Why overt green on while shooting...maybe safety, but big maybe. Just a train like you fight mindset, and big green light where my head is doesn't seem to be a good idea. Ah, just rolled into his movement through the structure, terrible tactics so I will chalk it up to that. Rah!
as much as I enjoy cheap and effective gear, I'm not into helping our enemy with product R&D. make no mistake products like this will be used against our troops when we have future conflicts with China. good idea to point out failure points but maybe too good of a job done here? I dunno, thanks for the info either way.
Cool bro
😂😂 We have ANTIFA/BLM Terrorists and your worried about China???? I bet you believed Iraq has "weapons of mass destruction." We're the only country invading other countries and bombing them for their natural resources(OIL). Maybe enlist in the military and get firsthand experience before you speak nonsense again. WV4GAA OEF