🎧 Maonocaster AMC2 NEO Review & Tutorial | Streaming + Podcasting Audio Console

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  • čas přidán 20. 07. 2024
  • In today's video, we dive deep into the features, functionalities, and capabilities of the Maonocaster AMC2 NEO podcasting and streaming console. Whether you're a seasoned podcaster or just stepping into the world of live streaming, this detailed review and tutorial will guide you every step of the way.
    TOPICS + TIMESTAMPS
    0:00 - Introduction
    1:08 - Unboxing
    2:08 - My Personal Maonocaster Setup
    2:45 - Maonocaster Ports and Connectivity
    4:41 - Front Control Panel Overview
    4:51 - LED Lights + How to Charge Battery
    6:20 - Gain + Auxiliary Knobs
    7:43 - USB + Line Output Dial
    8:18 - Headphone Fader
    8:41 - Button Overview
    8:58 - 48v Button
    9:48 - Bluetooth Button
    10:43 - Reverb Presets
    12:18 - Side Chain Button
    15:11 - Direct Monitor Button
    16:17 - Pitch Presets
    17:34 - Noise Reducer Button
    19:06 - Soundpad Buttons + Recording
    21:39 - Final Thoughts
    👇 WHAT WE’LL COVER
    ✅ Comprehensive look at the design and build quality
    ✅ Overview of all the knobs, buttons, and functionalities
    ✅ Setting up the console for optimal sound quality
    ✅ Tips for integrating the console into your existing setup
    ✅ A live demonstration of recording and streaming
    ❓WHY USE THE MAONOCASTER AMC2 NEO
    Cutting-edge technology for podcasters and streamers
    User-friendly interface suitable for both beginners and professionals
    Compact, stylish, and designed to enhance audio quality
    🔗 LINKS + RESOURCES
    Purchase the Maonocaster AMC2 NEO: www.amazon.com/MAONO-Streamin...
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    #maono #maonocaster #c2neo
    🙏 Thanks for watching!
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Komentáře • 122

  • @JECKORWALKINGVLOG
    @JECKORWALKINGVLOG Před dnem

    I got my NEO. Im so amazed on the audio quality.

  • @TravelistWonder
    @TravelistWonder Před 3 měsíci +2

    Thanks Ben! This is my first time on your channel. I just purchased the maonocaster, headphones, and dynamic microphone for my podcast. Your video was so helpful. Already liked & subscribed to your channel!!

    • @blogwithben
      @blogwithben  Před 3 měsíci

      That's so great! Thanks a lot for watching and best of luck to you with your new podcast! What will it be about?

  • @SabiruzzamanChowdhury
    @SabiruzzamanChowdhury Před 8 měsíci +1

    Thanks, Ben. This vdo was very useful for me. You clearly explained all.

    • @blogwithben
      @blogwithben  Před 8 měsíci

      You're welcome! Thanks for watching the review!

  • @zeiyashay
    @zeiyashay Před 11 dny

    Just got mine and this video really helped understand the functions. Thank you!

  • @sciaticnervepain5640
    @sciaticnervepain5640 Před 10 měsíci +2

    This looks really cool! Thanks, Ben!

    • @blogwithben
      @blogwithben  Před 10 měsíci

      It really is! I enjoyed using it a ton! There are a lot of cool things you can do with it. Thanks for watching!

  • @melanieasurto6118
    @melanieasurto6118 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Thank you this is a big help to my streaming live.

    • @blogwithben
      @blogwithben  Před 3 měsíci

      That's awesome! Good luck with your streaming! Thanks for watching too!

  • @DJ_Gloveboxx
    @DJ_Gloveboxx Před 8 měsíci +1

    Thanks for the video! Very helpful

    • @blogwithben
      @blogwithben  Před 8 měsíci +1

      You're welcome! Thanks so much for watching!

  • @ra3jualaga45adi
    @ra3jualaga45adi Před 6 měsíci +1

    Ben, Well done Video! This will also go, as how a product audio/video should be made. Thanks a lot.

    • @blogwithben
      @blogwithben  Před 6 měsíci

      Thanks so much! I really appreciate that. Thanks for watching!

  • @briancasey987
    @briancasey987 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Great review. Been looking at this over the last few days and I just ordered it directly from Maono. They currently have a 15% discount. And with free shipping I only paid €48. Absolute bargain

    • @blogwithben
      @blogwithben  Před 10 měsíci +1

      Whoa! That's awesome! I liked the Maonocaster a lot. The type of mic you use is important obviously. You'll get a better sound by using a higher quality mic. But overall, the Maonocaster is an awesome audio console. And you got a DEAL! Nice work! Thanks for watching!

  • @BomJimmy
    @BomJimmy Před 5 měsíci +1

    thank you for review

  • @theblackiyepodcast8369
    @theblackiyepodcast8369 Před měsícem +1

    Excellent

  • @Liunaaa
    @Liunaaa Před 7 měsíci

    Should i put in there my headset (hs65)??

  • @RB-Book-Of-World-Records
    @RB-Book-Of-World-Records Před 3 měsíci +1

    Thanks Brother

    • @blogwithben
      @blogwithben  Před 3 měsíci

      Any time! Thank you for watching!

  • @templedark5960
    @templedark5960 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Hi Ben. Great review. How do you think this would perform for audiobook recording? Presume the noise reduction would serve well to reduce room noise? As per the microphone, is the included XLR good for AB production? Or would a higher spec cardioid be advised? Thanks.

    • @blogwithben
      @blogwithben  Před 7 měsíci

      Hi! Thanks so much! I think this would be a good unit for audiobook recording, however I would probably get a higher spec mic. Just my personal opinion. These mics are great, but if you're looking for "dialed in sound" out of the box, then a higher grade mic will probably be best.

    • @templedark5960
      @templedark5960 Před 6 měsíci

      @@blogwithben Thanks, Ben. Package arrived today, but only the 'free gift' of XLR cable and mic cover. No sign of the studio and mic. Following up, but feeling scammed right now. Hopefully just an error on their end.

    • @QadeemQissay
      @QadeemQissay Před měsícem

      Whic mic you recommend is lewit 240 pro or rode nt mini usb

  • @Adastra5151
    @Adastra5151 Před 7 měsíci

    I’m wanting to stream live to second life on my iMac No video just karaoke. Do I plug that 3.5 jack into my iMac so it loops it back.?

  • @TimonynCo
    @TimonynCo Před 4 měsíci +3

    I’m about to buy my very first interface, love the look of this but will it work on my Mac mini?

    • @blogwithben
      @blogwithben  Před 4 měsíci

      Hi! Thanks for watching! It should. It worked with my MacBook Pro. :)

  • @rickkennedy1655
    @rickkennedy1655 Před 9 měsíci +1

    I've seen on many of these reviews about using a smartphone for music, but can you actually bring in a phone call (such as a call-in) for a two-person podcast with one person on the XLR microphone and the other person on the phone call? Does the TRRS cable provide the capability for the person on the phone to hear you? Or maybe through the Bluetooth. Thanks to anyone that answers.

    • @blogwithben
      @blogwithben  Před 9 měsíci +1

      That's a great question! Let me test it out and get back to you!

  • @foxhoundra64fr
    @foxhoundra64fr Před 8 měsíci +1

    I'm having a hard time understanding loopback. I use 2 PC's to stream, one for gaming and one for streaming duties. I would like to be able to have game audio which I have coming from a 3.5mm jack separate from my mic audio, both coming from the C2 Neo. Maybe, I can use the 3.5 game audio going to the aux port, and then use stream out to the line in port on my PC for a separate game. What do you think?

    • @blogwithben
      @blogwithben  Před 8 měsíci

      Hey! Thanks for watching. This is a deep question so I'm going to have to do some research and get back to you. Offhand, I'm not really sure what the solution is. I'll let you know what I find. :)

  • @jankrix
    @jankrix Před 5 měsíci +1

    Great video, subscribed and like! I'm new to all this and I have quite a bit of questions. I hope you would answer this; I'm planning to use this for 3 purpose; recording podcast, voice live streaming and zoom/gmeet call, can this do that? I'm using old macbook pro 2015, how's the connectivity to old macbook pro 2015 with usb connection?

    • @blogwithben
      @blogwithben  Před 5 měsíci +1

      Thanks so much for the sub! I really appreciate that! The answer to your first question is yes. I'm not 100% sure about your second question because I'll have to double-check what type of ports the MacBook Pro 2015 has. I assume it has USB-A ports. If that's the case, you could use a USB-C to USB-A adapter like this one www.amazon.com/Elebase-Upgraded-Connector-Chargers-Interface/dp/B07LF72431/ Let me know if that helps, and thanks again!

    • @jankrix
      @jankrix Před 4 měsíci

      @@blogwithben Yes, it does have mostly USB A. One last question! does it accept input from guitar/other instrument and I still can have input for the music from phone?

  • @marrocani4210
    @marrocani4210 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Hi. First I would like to thank you.
    A small question please. How about auto-tune effect ?

    • @blogwithben
      @blogwithben  Před 9 měsíci

      Hi! Thanks for watching! I don't believe this model has the auto-tune effect.

  • @FATSIDEDOWN
    @FATSIDEDOWN Před 8 měsíci +1

    So... I have X2 Simmons 12" drum amps with Alesis drum kit and the AT2020 XLR microphone. The problem im having is the volume on the mic is Super low. My mic is plugged into the Simmons amp through a phantom power supply and impedance transformer (CP8201).
    My goal.. Just want to have some fun with the kids by changing their voice and blah blah. Im not doing any podcasting or youtube recordings. Currently I have to scream into the mic to hear anything (and yes im speaking into the front of the mic).
    Would this be a good option for a mixer or what would you recommend??

    • @blogwithben
      @blogwithben  Před 8 měsíci

      Hey! Thanks for watching. Yes, this would be a good fit for what you're trying to do. It's obviously not a super pro setup, but it's by far a great budget audio console. The voice changing and volume levels are actually really good and fun to play around with. Your kids will love it! Thanks again for watching!

  • @JCTVLiveshahabad
    @JCTVLiveshahabad Před 5 měsíci

    Can we bring a call in guest for streaming?

  • @Hilal_abdelilah
    @Hilal_abdelilah Před 4 měsíci +1

    Thank you for the infos . But im wondering why the sound i hear from your explanations sounds kinda bad quality. Thank you in advance

    • @blogwithben
      @blogwithben  Před 4 měsíci +1

      Thanks for watching and the feedback. I used my Maono mic and Shure SM7B Condenser mic to record the audio with the Maonocaster and Garageband. Not sure if the video audio in Final Cut Pro affected the sound, but I'll take a closer look at it. Thanks!

  • @ashxen-3829
    @ashxen-3829 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Hey, so I have my Pd200x connected to it. I understand if Xlr connection the mic won't have RGB lights. But can I plug in both the usb and xlr to the AME2? So technically it's using xlr voice quality? Or the usb?

    • @blogwithben
      @blogwithben  Před 9 měsíci +1

      Hey! Thanks for watching! Let me test it out and get back to you on that one.

    • @ashxen-3829
      @ashxen-3829 Před 9 měsíci

      thank you !@@blogwithben

    • @sapnabarman9973
      @sapnabarman9973 Před 3 měsíci

      ​@@ashxen-3829I have also own a pd200x is there a big difference in the audio quality using the maonocaster over the usb-c?

  • @KawaiiSatan
    @KawaiiSatan Před 8 měsíci +1

    The audio coming through my headphones when plugged into this mixer has a lot of static whenever sound plays. Any idea on how to eliminate that?

    • @blogwithben
      @blogwithben  Před 8 měsíci +1

      Thanks for watching! Hmmmmm that could be caused by many things. Try using a different cable to rule that out. It could also be an "environmental" issue. If you have a bunch of other electronics around your recording devices, then interference/static may happen, unfortunately.

  • @KnowerofThings
    @KnowerofThings Před 2 měsíci +1

    Can i use a dynamic mic with 6.35mm male connector to that box? never seen that connection before it looks strange.

    • @blogwithben
      @blogwithben  Před 2 měsíci

      Hi thanks for watching! I believe so. The input accepts XLR and TRS cables.

  • @Rachel_C111
    @Rachel_C111 Před 6 dny

    I tried plugging my laptop to the aux, and usb C but music cannot be heard during tiktok livestream :( Please help meeeeee

  • @TrevorBrownReframeLifeHypno
    @TrevorBrownReframeLifeHypno Před měsícem +1

    I want to pick one reverb setting and turn it on and off during a particular part of a stream. Your demo showed pressing the reverb button cycles through each setting which is not what I need. How do you just enable the reverb setting of choice, say ‘Hall’ then turn Hall off then back on again when needed without cycling through all the other reverb settings?

    • @blogwithben
      @blogwithben  Před 13 dny

      Hi! Thanks for watching! Hmmmmm I'm not sure off the top of my head. You could cycle through the settings during "words". That way the reverb would only work on certain words you are speaking. That's the only way I can think of without editing the sound in a DAW after the stream.

  • @user-br6tl8qp6f
    @user-br6tl8qp6f Před 4 dny

    Why my maono pd200x is not working with xlr cable? My soundcard is AMC2 Neo

  • @adrio.st1
    @adrio.st1 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Hallo Super Video ,
    ich möchte mit diesem Gerät live streamen gleichzeitig aber auch musik laufen lassen , was für einen adapter brauche ich für iphone 14 ?!
    danke

    • @blogwithben
      @blogwithben  Před 2 měsíci

      Thanks for watching! I'm sorry, but I don't speak your language. Are you asking how to livestream on an iPhone 14?

  • @glrm2548
    @glrm2548 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Hi, can i hear a second pc( streaming ) audio in my headset? With the mixer connected in my gaming pc

    • @blogwithben
      @blogwithben  Před 5 měsíci

      Hey! Thanks for watching! That's a great question that I don't have the answer to unfortunately. I'll have to review the user manual and see. You can download it here if you'd like. www.maono.com/pages/moanocaster-amc2-neo-audio-interface-manual-drive-download

  • @user-uu6zp9vr5d
    @user-uu6zp9vr5d Před 2 měsíci

    How to connect to a speaker and use the speaker for the headphone

  • @Tabbywolfsong
    @Tabbywolfsong Před měsícem +1

    Okay so I have a few questions. I have this exact mixer. The thing is that it only works / records when I'm in the StarMaker app which is where to be fair I want it for when I'm singing.
    However I want to also podcast and I have a Macbook pro laptop and I tried to set it up in garage band and I ran into a slew of troubles there.
    I don't know what you should use to start a podcast to begin with. Also my mic is a audiocondenser technicana so that's what I use so I know I'm good with the phantom button.
    Can you help me out?

    • @blogwithben
      @blogwithben  Před měsícem

      Hi! Thanks for watching! It should work perfectly with Garageband. What issues did you run into?

  • @Lilking68
    @Lilking68 Před 2 měsíci +2

    This video was very useful, i just have one question, is this audio interface good for recording vocals as i am a music producer and i have rappers coming to record songs

    • @blogwithben
      @blogwithben  Před měsícem

      Hey! Thanks for watching! Yes, it would work for producing songs. The quality of audio would really come from the mic you used though. However, this audio console could be used in the studio for music production.

    • @Lilking68
      @Lilking68 Před měsícem

      @@blogwithben thanks, I have 2 mics powerpak bm800 and audio technica's at2020, will both mics work fine?

  • @CaptMrgn
    @CaptMrgn Před 10 měsíci +1

    Is it recommend to use thile while plugged in to a pc and its charging?

    • @blogwithben
      @blogwithben  Před 10 měsíci

      Hi! Thanks for watching! I wouldn't. I would charge it prior to using it. :)

  • @waltermontgomery9928
    @waltermontgomery9928 Před 6 měsíci +1

    I’m using this on my pc, how do I make it to where when I use the pitch presets my friends can hear it on discord?

    • @blogwithben
      @blogwithben  Před 6 měsíci

      Thanks for watching! Hmmmmm I'm not 100% sure. Your output audio and pitch presets should work on Discord if they can hear your regular output audio. That's strange that the presets aren't working in Discord. They can hear your regular audio on Discord but not the pitch presets?

  • @mike35424
    @mike35424 Před 9 měsíci +3

    What’s the advantage to having a rechargeable battery? It sounds really inefficient, especially for a product that sits at your desk with continuous access to charging ports.

    • @blogwithben
      @blogwithben  Před 9 měsíci

      Hey! Thanks for watching! Probably for the "on the go" user. Not sure, but it's nice either way. Thanks again for watching!

  • @tadash_gaming
    @tadash_gaming Před 8 měsíci +1

    Squarock commander M1 vs AU AM200
    Which is best ?

    • @blogwithben
      @blogwithben  Před 8 měsíci

      Hey! Thanks for watching! I've never used the Squarock Commander M1 so I can't really say. I'll check it out though. Thanks for the suggestion.

  • @xSmoothie256
    @xSmoothie256 Před 7 měsíci +1

    How's the direct monitoring? Is there zero latency or a slight noticeable difference?

    • @blogwithben
      @blogwithben  Před 7 měsíci

      Hi! Thanks for watching! From my personal experience, there wasn't much latency. I didn't really notice a difference when recording audio.

    • @xSmoothie256
      @xSmoothie256 Před 7 měsíci

      @@blogwithben what about the sc1 from fifine?

  • @englishbfast
    @englishbfast Před dnem

    whats the difference with maono neo gen1?

  • @Aluja77
    @Aluja77 Před 4 měsíci +1

    hey, does the direct Monitor have a delay? I really need one without delay or at least one where you cant tell if there is a delay

    • @blogwithben
      @blogwithben  Před 3 měsíci

      Thanks for watching! I didn't notice much of a delay. Keep in mind that this unit isn't a $500 pro unit, so there may be some delay, but I didn't notice any. Maono is typically a great brand with quality products. Just FYI. :)

    • @Aluja77
      @Aluja77 Před 3 měsíci

      @@blogwithbenThx for the respond, Im currently in need of some device that is simple to use with In ear Microphone feature cuz I need to get myself a IEM headphone due to my Skin. I have neurodermatitis and I figured that it makes my skin itch after couple hours but the problem is that I cant talk properly with sound isolated headphones, thats why I need one to hear my surrounding and myself

    • @Aluja77
      @Aluja77 Před 3 měsíci

      @@blogwithbenDo you know any device for my problem? I cant find one good device on yt

  • @ppuniisher1559
    @ppuniisher1559 Před 7 měsíci +5

    I only paid 30$ for it on aliexpress 11.11😊

  • @koolpep
    @koolpep Před 10 měsíci +1

    Crazy how good budget gear has become.

    • @blogwithben
      @blogwithben  Před 10 měsíci

      It really is! I was honestly impressed with this little console. It's great for an entry level podcaster or anyone on a budget. :)

  • @Weekend-Warrior-Gaming
    @Weekend-Warrior-Gaming Před 6 měsíci +1

    I have zero sound coming from the line out anyone know out to fix this?

    • @blogwithben
      @blogwithben  Před 6 měsíci

      Hey! Thanks for watching. Sorry you're having that issue. It could be a lot of reasons, but have you tried using a different cable?

  • @JoeDark76
    @JoeDark76 Před 9 měsíci +1

    can you use this and run it through OBS Studios?

    • @blogwithben
      @blogwithben  Před 9 měsíci +1

      Thanks for watching! From what I can tell, yes you can. I've never used OBS Studios, but everything I've read online says that they are compatible. :)

    • @Weekend-Warrior-Gaming
      @Weekend-Warrior-Gaming Před 6 měsíci +1

      My line out is not working at all. Zero sound

  • @iiAmLynette
    @iiAmLynette Před 8 měsíci +1

    So can I use this as like a sound bar ?

    • @blogwithben
      @blogwithben  Před 8 měsíci

      Hey! Thanks for watching! What do you mean when you say "sound bar"? You have three recording options with the A B & C soundpad buttons. So, you can record sounds and play them back with those three buttons. Is that what you mean?

    • @iiAmLynette
      @iiAmLynette Před 8 měsíci

      Sorry I meant sound board , but yes thank you for answering my question .

  • @Cocker_Spaniel
    @Cocker_Spaniel Před 6 měsíci +1

    how is the build quality? is the body metal or plastic?

    • @blogwithben
      @blogwithben  Před 6 měsíci

      Hey, thanks for watching! It's plastic. Doesn't feel cheap, but it isn't solid metal or anything like that.

  • @issasimpson
    @issasimpson Před 7 měsíci +1

    Can it be overcharged or can I just keep it plugged in all the time

    • @blogwithben
      @blogwithben  Před 7 měsíci

      Hi! Thanks for watching. Yes, it can be overcharged. The manual says for safety, please stop charging after the battery is fully charged to avoid overcharging. :)

    • @issasimpson
      @issasimpson Před 6 měsíci

      @@blogwithben this will only be used at my PC. It will never be used for portability purposes it will always be stationary. Will it still have to be charged

  • @harpreetsinghmoga
    @harpreetsinghmoga Před 9 měsíci +1

    Reverb level adjustable manually ?

    • @blogwithben
      @blogwithben  Před 9 měsíci +1

      Hey! Thanks for watching! You can change the reverb type and volume level, but not the actual "reverb level".

    • @harpreetsinghmoga
      @harpreetsinghmoga Před 9 měsíci

      @@blogwithben Thanks.

  • @abin3475
    @abin3475 Před 5 měsíci +1

    What is the route to the camera?

    • @blogwithben
      @blogwithben  Před 5 měsíci

      Hi! Thanks for watching. Are you trying to hook a camera up to the Maonocaster?

  • @marfigue777
    @marfigue777 Před 4 měsíci +1

    does this one have a monitor headphone delay?

    • @blogwithben
      @blogwithben  Před 4 měsíci +1

      Hi! Thanks for watching! There wasn't much of a delay that I could notice. :)

  • @aodongphuchaiphong
    @aodongphuchaiphong Před 8 měsíci +1

    Tôi có dùng cái này để hát karaoke được không ạ ?

    • @blogwithben
      @blogwithben  Před 8 měsíci

      Yes, it can be used for many purposes. You can definitely hook it up to your computer and sing karaoke. :)

  • @aanie4188
    @aanie4188 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Is it useful for obs live stream?

    • @blogwithben
      @blogwithben  Před 2 měsíci

      Thanks for watching! I've never used OBS before, so I can't say. However, this console is compatible with a ton of different live streaming platforms, so I'm pretty sure it would work.

  • @markgallon3185
    @markgallon3185 Před 5 měsíci +1

    I'm not getting any sound through my headphones any idea why?

    • @blogwithben
      @blogwithben  Před 5 měsíci

      Hmmmmm that's very strange. It could be a cable issue or a headphone issue. Have you tried other headphones to see if they don't work either? Also, is the headphone volume turned up?

  • @Talesofbee
    @Talesofbee Před 4 měsíci +1

    Can we record guitar using this

    • @blogwithben
      @blogwithben  Před 4 měsíci +1

      Hey! Thanks for watching! You can plug a microphone in it with an XLR cable. I haven't tried plugging a guitar in, but I assume it would work if it was using an XLR cable. I'll have to test it out and get back to you. :)

  • @hassandjhaboogiespin4550
    @hassandjhaboogiespin4550 Před 29 dny +1

    i owns 1 phone 13 and i am a DJ, i has I Rig, Just wanted to see how or If??? it would Enhance my Sound being i Streams on Tiktok???, We Shall See Today???😂, i hopes it Helps, i am charging it up thru my 2019 Macbook pro that… Has USB Cord, i just ordered another MIC Too, They Both Use XLR Cords,

    • @blogwithben
      @blogwithben  Před 13 dny

      Thanks for watching and I'm curious to hear what you think!

  • @FATSIDEDOWN
    @FATSIDEDOWN Před 8 měsíci +2

    You lost me at "MacBook" 😭😭

    • @blogwithben
      @blogwithben  Před 8 měsíci

      Yeah sorry about that! I'm a Mac guy. Lol.

  • @JCTVLiveshahabad
    @JCTVLiveshahabad Před 5 měsíci +1

    Can we bring a call in guest for streaming?

    • @blogwithben
      @blogwithben  Před 5 měsíci +1

      Hey! Thanks for watching! I'm not 100% sure. I'll have to check the user manual. You can download it here if you'd like. www.maono.com/pages/moanocaster-amc2-neo-audio-interface-manual-drive-download Thanks again!

    • @JCTVLiveshahabad
      @JCTVLiveshahabad Před 5 měsíci

      i bought it from Amazon but guests are not supported