Some manufacturers are strict on what you can do with a truck. Kenworth for example will not allow Saber to add AWD. They consider it false advertising. I wouldn't be surprised if that's why the International HX 520 doesn't have raised suspension. Two trucks I've wanted to see buffed have been the Freightliner M916A1 and Azov 5319. 200L fuel tank is not enough, I give them a 260L fuel tank. Given the power creep in the game I'd say you could give both Ank's a 270L fuel tank like the Voron D.
I'd love to see them buff the Freightliner at all. As it is, I think I've bought it once and used it never, it just doesn't meet the requirements in a way that other trucks don't.
For me the Azov 5319 also needs a bigger fuel tank or roof rack. The Royal BM17 also needs a diff lock. it gets stuck in areas that other trucks don't because of no diff lock.
Azov 5319 can have that special addon with 350l of fuel and 200 something spear parts, but that addon is so heavy, so you are left wit one slot bed and you have to houl regular trailers which are either small (2 slot) or impossible to maneuver (4 slot), and Azov 5 is not powerfull enougj to haul itself, that addon and 4 slot trailer with any cargo you put on it. So it really cpuld do with an extra roof rack and 100liters extra would be marvelous :)
Azov sprinter should have following changes: to its addon should include 2x spare tyres, 300 spare parts, 300L of fuel + being able to tow a scout or truck trailers
Even more spare parts there's SO much space in the back of it. Plus looking at Dakar trucks they have heaps of spares to be self sufficient. It would make it useable and useful.
Great points as always and well thought-out suggestions for rebalance. I feel dead axes need to be rethought from scratch mechanically - e.g. dead axle spreads load and enables better ground travel by a dramatic margin, or else gives a simple large fuel economy bonus (when down) at the expense of the trapping you often see. That gives players a reason to use it on a situational reason, and weigh up the cost/advantages. Similarly, I feel that just tweaking fuel amount/economy to make the trucks more or less the same dilutes any originality of the vehicles. I'd prefer it if they kept high fuel use, but instead gave the truck far better performance, e.g. mud clearing, centre of gravity, GVM loading, traction or wheel/axle size. Players can then choose high-performance but thirsty trucks if they want to roar though, a bit like a bigger version of ANK38. Sprinter def needs a 'long range/support' conversion to make it any use at all outside racing. Look at the back of it - you could fit so much fuel, tools and spares in there. Adding a hitch would give this so much more utility. Talking flaws, it's criminal that Caterpillar 745C does not also have long bed option, or _something_ to make it stand out (asides from mud/snow travel) as a use case. At least throw on a tow hitch and some tyre chains. I believe it made your 'most worthless truck' list along with Sprinter because there's nothing they do that another truck does not do better, faster and easier.
One truck you forgot to mention is the Burlak 6x6. The Burlak 6x6 just needs a A to S+ engine, at the moment it cannot pull any heavy cargo by itself. It just feels like it struggles, it’s an ok off-roader but it works great in Immandra especially in ice patches. The tires it has I wish they were available on other trucks that don’t have chained tires. I love studded tires. It can pull empty scout trailers, but when it comes to the heavy type pull trailers. It literally struggles, I love the idea of a truck scout in the scout class itself. The crane is literally useless, you can maybe haul one slot of planks. To get it going like to make it feel like it has actual speed in deep snow or muddy terrain, low+ with diff lock on will it make it feel a little bit fast. I know this video is mainly for discussion, but the developers really need to fix this issue. Not just release it & see if it’s allowed to be modded or not. The roof rack idea for any truck is great & just give awd to the highway trucks. Give us the option to have diff lock on or always on. One thing I want is the look of the truck to be clean, I don’t want dirty windshields or scratched up & faded paint. Just a nice clean shiny paint job.
Just looked at the Burlak in-game. That is a really neat scout, with different hitch options so you can pick which kind of trailers to tow. But if what you're saying is true, it doesn't really matter if the truck can't pull anything anyway.
I got the season pass a while ago, so I think I can actually get the diff lock for the GMC. Will have to check it out, haven't touched that truck in ages
The Ford CL9000 needs a locking rear Diff, its a neat truck but would like to have more use out of it, and def agree one some of the trucks needing a larger fuel tanks, like the P512
Things I would like to see: Pacific P16 - Snow Chains - I love this truck, but can only really use it in non-snowy/icy maps because without AWD or Chains it can be bought to a halt on icy tarmac. Realistically you'd be able to put chains over those tires in real life, so why not here! Ford F750 - The Ability to pull Scout Trailers - I would gladly even trade off the ability to pull large trailers for the ability to pull scouting trailers with the F750. The F750 would be so much more useful as a scout, and could even be the ultimate scout, if it could use things like the Prototype Radar Trailer. It's a shame to have to leave a great scout truck at home because it can't tow a scout trailer, especially when we now have another trucks with the ability to pull both!
Kinda funny you say that about the 750, I have two of them and they're really the only scouts I use anymore (sometimes I break out the Loadstar 1700 if both are occupied). I think it would be incredible if they allowed us to swap hitches like with the Burlak, but I think that hitch is probably the only thing holding back the 750 from being completely broken.
A lot of these trucks were simply powercrept by newer trucks. Big ass mudtires with huge fuel tanks and supplies (Mastodon, Kenworth, FEMM), they really change the dynamic of the game. It feels weird going back to normal sized truck tires after using unstoppable trucks like those. Sure, they have their downsides, but 3-4 slot beds and 70" tires compensate for them.
the paystar: Well the paystare will have a great time with me since i only use vehicles in the region they belong to so the Azov Atom will not be on NA maps, the dearylonghorn: i dont use it because it's a military vehicle and I try to avoid military vehicles because it doesn't feel realistic that a civilian should have one, HX52: agree with, the Azov: race truck, the Boar: i love it and I only place mobile fuel stations on the map to support it, the pacific P12 my medium lumber hauler and support truck, the W990 it's not that good but has the spirit, the forester: good for forestry keep off the road it is meant to take logs to your truck
I'll be honest, I don't notice the fuel tank too much. It's usually good to get me from garage to pickup zone, past whatever nearby fuel station to the drop off. Then again, I'm starting Ontario about now, so we'll see how long that lasts.
@@FunkyBaconArts yeah that be cool, the modded one is called iceberg and can equip chain tires and also winch like the autonomous which can lift it back up like the scout winch, and also got fuel and repair points.
Welp I heard that the dairy debuted with the dead axle down with no options to raise it so I'm glad all dead axle trucks at least have the option to put it up or down. Sometimes it helps with stability on non level roads.
The P12 needs its difflock/drive train debugged. It's just buggy. It doesn't work. The Aramatsu meanwhile is perfectly fine except that it lacks the long log carrier/trailer option. That is really dumb.
Tatra Force 815-7 should have 53'' tires like real one. Same way Tatra Phoenix should have 50'' tires like real one. And Advanced Special Gear Box should be buffed around 15-20% speed, with that Super Heavies will be more pleasant to drive but still be slower than offroad gear box Heavies.
That reminds me, I got my Derry Special today, couldn't decide on which gearbox to use. Settling on Advanced since the Multipurpose only has 1 low gear and no high gear.
@@panther-nk2hn I can't wait to get this truck, i've just completed Yukon, then i have Amur then Ontario. From what i heard the Derry Special needs some tests and maybe tweaks, i'd try with OHS 2 or MHS 3 or 2 or Jat, and either best engine or 2nd best engine. Advanced Special is fine, maybe Multipurpose on a map without too much mud.
@@fgpraxis4463 I avoid anything without a high gear nowadays, it's so useful. When I first started, I disregarded it as pointless, then realized later on it's more useful than Auto, now I only really use Auto if I'm on tarmac. Dunno about engines, and I don't see too much difference between tires when the wheels are this big.
Hi Cyrus,is it maybe possible for you to make a review on the Amur dlc? I was really thinking about buying it soon,but I'm not really sure about that,would be really nice of you ❤❤❤
I think there are mods for powered lift axles. Not sure if they exist IRL, though from a mechanical standpoint, they absolutely could exist, just have the axle differential drop down onto a gear on the drive shaft. Someone who knows more about trucks can probably tell me if they do exist, or why they don't.
I did a little reading back when I got the free dead-axle truck (Cat CT681), apparently the dead axle is to reduce road pressure. It makes sense, heavy loads will put a lot of weight on 6 tires, and I remember seeing something about how most tanks aren't road safe cuz they crush tread marks into the asphalt, something similar may happen with trucks.
@@panther-nk2hn Tanks are fine on road so long as the treads have rubber boots attached. Running metal treads will shred a road, though tank treads spread the weight out much more evenly than tires do.
I agree with almost all of these points but not rlly all. The Sprinter NEEDS more supplies in the back specially 2 wheels which blatantly has the plastic bodywork dents for,giving it more supplies would make it a rlly good scout even tho that will be the only thing it can ever do. Points like 5600 and Boar needing more fuel i completely agree with, several trucks need more fuel tbh in either racks of some sort or tank increases. Other optimizations like the P12 gettinf beds or other such trcuks that could blatantly get beds but don't have should get them hell even Forester should imo have it. I disagree however with the W990 or the International getting raised suspensions or awd and so on same for Royal for exemple getting diff lock, not all trucks need nor should have everything imo. HOWEVER all highway trucks except w990 which has big unique good tires NEED the GMC treatment to get awd and diff lock. This counters the point i made with w990 but other than that all highway trucks have weak engine and small wheels so the only way to make them even remotely useful is giving them awd, diff or both meanwhile w990 yes it has the dead axle but the damn thing is like the P16 and can go through hell and beyond and never stop. That being said the whole game needs a rebalance/health update that we'll never get cuz the greedy trash this game has as devs and publishers only care about making paid DLCs not improve the game in any way.
The reason that the trucks have not and will not ever change is because Evan though saber interactive is an American company they play favorites I mean just look at the mastodon compared to w990, w990 is trash while the mastodon is literally op, all thay want is money they do not care about it unless it affects them negatively enough for them to care.
Nah P12 can run out of power and bind up with a big crane, I've tried it. Truck is actually surprisingly useful with long logs. I dunno about crane + logs (if it has that option) but hauling just a load of long logs, or having the spare tire rack + long logs, it can actually manage it. The big tires + no frame/bumpers to hook up on stuff must make the long log trailer fairly easy to pull. I've seen other videos say logs are some of the heavier cargo, but despite that it seems to be the only job the P12 is capable of. Big crane, it runs out of power. Fuel tanker, it runs out of power. It's been so long I don't actually remember off hand if it has saddle high, but if it does I'm sure it'll still run out of power. But logs, for whatever reason the P12 will actually pull logs. Same goes for the Derry 4520. It might not like towing a semi trailer, but switch it over to logs and it's actually quite capable.
Makes a good support truck with the large maintenance frame. Its a surprisingly light addon so it doesn't bog down the truck, while also carrying a lot of fuel and a bit more repair than the standard maintenance frame. I've tried using it with the big crane, but it just doesn't have enough torque for that.
@@Rage_Spammer same conclusion I came to. The truck is good enough in mud with big enough tyres to deliver fuel to anything else that's got stuck, or even go in and tow the stuck vehicle out. The P12 just struggles with low power or high weight.
The big cat should have some more capabilities that truck is absolutely useless after the rock trailer mission also no awd sure you can have big fuel tank on the back but there are more capable vehicles for this job
Some manufacturers are strict on what you can do with a truck. Kenworth for example will not allow Saber to add AWD. They consider it false advertising. I wouldn't be surprised if that's why the International HX 520 doesn't have raised suspension.
Two trucks I've wanted to see buffed have been the Freightliner M916A1 and Azov 5319. 200L fuel tank is not enough, I give them a 260L fuel tank.
Given the power creep in the game I'd say you could give both Ank's a 270L fuel tank like the Voron D.
I'd love to see them buff the Freightliner at all. As it is, I think I've bought it once and used it never, it just doesn't meet the requirements in a way that other trucks don't.
For me the Azov 5319 also needs a bigger fuel tank or roof rack. The Royal BM17 also needs a diff lock. it gets stuck in areas that other trucks don't because of no diff lock.
Yeah, I use BM17 all the time and I really wish it had a diff lock.
@@Yanbayan47 it has limited diff lock
@@antcommander1367 how I get it?
@@antcommander1367 it's not the same thing. other trucks with an actual diff lock can run circles around the Royal BM17.
Azov 5319 can have that special addon with 350l of fuel and 200 something spear parts, but that addon is so heavy, so you are left wit one slot bed and you have to houl regular trailers which are either small (2 slot) or impossible to maneuver (4 slot), and Azov 5 is not powerfull enougj to haul itself, that addon and 4 slot trailer with any cargo you put on it. So it really cpuld do with an extra roof rack and 100liters extra would be marvelous :)
Azov sprinter should have following changes: to its addon should include 2x spare tyres, 300 spare parts, 300L of fuel + being able to tow a scout or truck trailers
and adding automatic winch. even tuz sisters have it
I’ve never used it but give it the ability to have a flatbed with a crane. That way you can change it out, I’ll most likely sell it.
Even more spare parts there's SO much space in the back of it. Plus looking at Dakar trucks they have heaps of spares to be self sufficient. It would make it useable and useful.
@@joshuatester8197 yep this would Made it into a Servise/ressuply exploration truck wich would fit it mutch better then how it is currently
Great points as always and well thought-out suggestions for rebalance. I feel dead axes need to be rethought from scratch mechanically - e.g. dead axle spreads load and enables better ground travel by a dramatic margin, or else gives a simple large fuel economy bonus (when down) at the expense of the trapping you often see. That gives players a reason to use it on a situational reason, and weigh up the cost/advantages.
Similarly, I feel that just tweaking fuel amount/economy to make the trucks more or less the same dilutes any originality of the vehicles. I'd prefer it if they kept high fuel use, but instead gave the truck far better performance, e.g. mud clearing, centre of gravity, GVM loading, traction or wheel/axle size. Players can then choose high-performance but thirsty trucks if they want to roar though, a bit like a bigger version of ANK38.
Sprinter def needs a 'long range/support' conversion to make it any use at all outside racing. Look at the back of it - you could fit so much fuel, tools and spares in there. Adding a hitch would give this so much more utility.
Talking flaws, it's criminal that Caterpillar 745C does not also have long bed option, or _something_ to make it stand out (asides from mud/snow travel) as a use case. At least throw on a tow hitch and some tyre chains. I believe it made your 'most worthless truck' list along with Sprinter because there's nothing they do that another truck does not do better, faster and easier.
One truck you forgot to mention is the Burlak 6x6. The Burlak 6x6 just needs a A to S+ engine, at the moment it cannot pull any heavy cargo by itself. It just feels like it struggles, it’s an ok off-roader but it works great in Immandra especially in ice patches. The tires it has I wish they were available on other trucks that don’t have chained tires. I love studded tires. It can pull empty scout trailers, but when it comes to the heavy type pull trailers. It literally struggles, I love the idea of a truck scout in the scout class itself. The crane is literally useless, you can maybe haul one slot of planks. To get it going like to make it feel like it has actual speed in deep snow or muddy terrain, low+ with diff lock on will it make it feel a little bit fast. I know this video is mainly for discussion, but the developers really need to fix this issue. Not just release it & see if it’s allowed to be modded or not. The roof rack idea for any truck is great & just give awd to the highway trucks. Give us the option to have diff lock on or always on. One thing I want is the look of the truck to be clean, I don’t want dirty windshields or scratched up & faded paint. Just a nice clean shiny paint job.
Just looked at the Burlak in-game. That is a really neat scout, with different hitch options so you can pick which kind of trailers to tow. But if what you're saying is true, it doesn't really matter if the truck can't pull anything anyway.
P12 with a bigger engine would be pretty sweet. I'm fine with the addons it have, it just lacks power.
With the Boar awd drinks all the fuel so you need to use it like the P16 but with the extra of awd when needed
I really love GMC900MH. It is not only a biginer truck... Wit difflock and AWD GMC is a real work horse 🐴
I got the season pass a while ago, so I think I can actually get the diff lock for the GMC. Will have to check it out, haven't touched that truck in ages
The Ford CL9000 needs a locking rear Diff, its a neat truck but would like to have more use out of it, and def agree one some of the trucks needing a larger fuel tanks, like the P512
Is there any way to make the driving on a normal road feel realistic? Because it feels like you are driving a 5hp boat on flats 😂
Things I would like to see:
Pacific P16 - Snow Chains - I love this truck, but can only really use it in non-snowy/icy maps because without AWD or Chains it can be bought to a halt on icy tarmac. Realistically you'd be able to put chains over those tires in real life, so why not here!
Ford F750 - The Ability to pull Scout Trailers - I would gladly even trade off the ability to pull large trailers for the ability to pull scouting trailers with the F750. The F750 would be so much more useful as a scout, and could even be the ultimate scout, if it could use things like the Prototype Radar Trailer. It's a shame to have to leave a great scout truck at home because it can't tow a scout trailer, especially when we now have another trucks with the ability to pull both!
Kinda funny you say that about the 750, I have two of them and they're really the only scouts I use anymore (sometimes I break out the Loadstar 1700 if both are occupied).
I think it would be incredible if they allowed us to swap hitches like with the Burlak, but I think that hitch is probably the only thing holding back the 750 from being completely broken.
A lot of these trucks were simply powercrept by newer trucks. Big ass mudtires with huge fuel tanks and supplies (Mastodon, Kenworth, FEMM), they really change the dynamic of the game. It feels weird going back to normal sized truck tires after using unstoppable trucks like those. Sure, they have their downsides, but 3-4 slot beds and 70" tires compensate for them.
They see no gods up here... other than THEM
the paystar: Well the paystare will have a great time with me since i only use vehicles in the region they belong to so the Azov Atom will not be on NA maps, the dearylonghorn: i dont use it because it's a military vehicle and I try to avoid military vehicles because it doesn't feel realistic that a civilian should have one, HX52: agree with, the Azov: race truck, the Boar: i love it and I only place mobile fuel stations on the map to support it, the pacific P12 my medium lumber hauler and support truck, the W990 it's not that good but has the spirit, the forester: good for forestry keep off the road it is meant to take logs to your truck
i really wish that they add a bigger fuel tank for paystar ts because that truck is soo good and with the better fuel tank will be ultimate truck
I'll be honest, I don't notice the fuel tank too much. It's usually good to get me from garage to pickup zone, past whatever nearby fuel station to the drop off.
Then again, I'm starting Ontario about now, so we'll see how long that lasts.
@@panther-nk2hn if you want a better paystar ts just instal the agl paystar ts mod and se wath it changes.
this mod makes the truck somuch better
The azov iceberg needs repair and fuel add on, got lots of space at the top.
"Iceberg" xD
honestly all I'd want for that one is Burlak-like tires so it can get some grip on ice.
@@FunkyBaconArts yeah that be cool, the modded one is called iceberg and can equip chain tires and also winch like the autonomous which can lift it back up like the scout winch, and also got fuel and repair points.
Welp I heard that the dairy debuted with the dead axle down with no options to raise it so I'm glad all dead axle trucks at least have the option to put it up or down. Sometimes it helps with stability on non level roads.
The P12 needs its difflock/drive train debugged. It's just buggy. It doesn't work. The Aramatsu meanwhile is perfectly fine except that it lacks the long log carrier/trailer option. That is really dumb.
They should let us customize trucks hpwever we want as long as we have money and its compatible. Like bigger gas tanks or using the tool boxes
Take my like
Im surprised you don't like the 990. I thought it was pretty op in my yukon play. worked everywhere for me except the two flooded routes.
Tatra Force 815-7 should have 53'' tires like real one.
Same way Tatra Phoenix should have 50'' tires like real one.
And Advanced Special Gear Box should be buffed around 15-20% speed, with that Super Heavies will be more pleasant to drive but still be slower than offroad gear box Heavies.
That reminds me, I got my Derry Special today, couldn't decide on which gearbox to use. Settling on Advanced since the Multipurpose only has 1 low gear and no high gear.
@@panther-nk2hn I can't wait to get this truck, i've just completed Yukon, then i have Amur then Ontario. From what i heard the Derry Special needs some tests and maybe tweaks, i'd try with OHS 2 or MHS 3 or 2 or Jat, and either best engine or 2nd best engine. Advanced Special is fine, maybe Multipurpose on a map without too much mud.
@@fgpraxis4463 I avoid anything without a high gear nowadays, it's so useful. When I first started, I disregarded it as pointless, then realized later on it's more useful than Auto, now I only really use Auto if I'm on tarmac.
Dunno about engines, and I don't see too much difference between tires when the wheels are this big.
Hi Cyrus,is it maybe possible for you to make a review on the Amur dlc? I was really thinking about buying it soon,but I'm not really sure about that,would be really nice of you ❤❤❤
I think there are mods for powered lift axles.
Not sure if they exist IRL, though from a mechanical standpoint, they absolutely could exist, just have the axle differential drop down onto a gear on the drive shaft.
Someone who knows more about trucks can probably tell me if they do exist, or why they don't.
I did a little reading back when I got the free dead-axle truck (Cat CT681), apparently the dead axle is to reduce road pressure. It makes sense, heavy loads will put a lot of weight on 6 tires, and I remember seeing something about how most tanks aren't road safe cuz they crush tread marks into the asphalt, something similar may happen with trucks.
@@panther-nk2hn Tanks are fine on road so long as the treads have rubber boots attached.
Running metal treads will shred a road, though tank treads spread the weight out much more evenly than tires do.
The derry 4520 should have at least A- for p-w because its a f*cking tank carrier irl and other than that its good
Even with the new engine upgrade they gave it, I still think it’s underpowered
@@captainkirk800 i cant argue with that
I agree with almost all of these points but not rlly all.
The Sprinter NEEDS more supplies in the back specially 2 wheels which blatantly has the plastic bodywork dents for,giving it more supplies would make it a rlly good scout even tho that will be the only thing it can ever do.
Points like 5600 and Boar needing more fuel i completely agree with, several trucks need more fuel tbh in either racks of some sort or tank increases.
Other optimizations like the P12 gettinf beds or other such trcuks that could blatantly get beds but don't have should get them hell even Forester should imo have it.
I disagree however with the W990 or the International getting raised suspensions or awd and so on same for Royal for exemple getting diff lock, not all trucks need nor should have everything imo.
HOWEVER all highway trucks except w990 which has big unique good tires NEED the GMC treatment to get awd and diff lock. This counters the point i made with w990 but other than that all highway trucks have weak engine and small wheels so the only way to make them even remotely useful is giving them awd, diff or both meanwhile w990 yes it has the dead axle but the damn thing is like the P16 and can go through hell and beyond and never stop.
That being said the whole game needs a rebalance/health update that we'll never get cuz the greedy trash this game has as devs and publishers only care about making paid DLCs not improve the game in any way.
The reason that the trucks have not and will not ever change is because Evan though saber interactive is an American company they play favorites I mean just look at the mastodon compared to w990, w990 is trash while the mastodon is literally op, all thay want is money they do not care about it unless it affects them negatively enough for them to care.
Pacific p12 is my big crane truck. Most usefull way to have it
Nah P12 can run out of power and bind up with a big crane, I've tried it.
Truck is actually surprisingly useful with long logs. I dunno about crane + logs (if it has that option) but hauling just a load of long logs, or having the spare tire rack + long logs, it can actually manage it.
The big tires + no frame/bumpers to hook up on stuff must make the long log trailer fairly easy to pull. I've seen other videos say logs are some of the heavier cargo, but despite that it seems to be the only job the P12 is capable of. Big crane, it runs out of power. Fuel tanker, it runs out of power. It's been so long I don't actually remember off hand if it has saddle high, but if it does I'm sure it'll still run out of power. But logs, for whatever reason the P12 will actually pull logs.
Same goes for the Derry 4520. It might not like towing a semi trailer, but switch it over to logs and it's actually quite capable.
Makes a good support truck with the large maintenance frame. Its a surprisingly light addon so it doesn't bog down the truck, while also carrying a lot of fuel and a bit more repair than the standard maintenance frame.
I've tried using it with the big crane, but it just doesn't have enough torque for that.
@@Rage_Spammer same conclusion I came to. The truck is good enough in mud with big enough tyres to deliver fuel to anything else that's got stuck, or even go in and tow the stuck vehicle out. The P12 just struggles with low power or high weight.
@@Rage_Spammer I should give that a try sometime, I never have put the maintenance frame on it.
@@justinlynch3P12 only has Saddle high. The P512 tho is the only Pacific that has saddle low option
The big cat should have some more capabilities that truck is absolutely useless after the rock trailer mission also no awd sure you can have big fuel tank on the back but there are more capable vehicles for this job
Boar needs adv. special gearbox
@cyrus brooo can we play together ?!
The ank civ. Is bad 20 l of full a minute