Avoid These 5 Mistakes When Rainwater Harvesting | Things The Books Won't Tell You
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- Avoid These 5 Mistakes When Rainwater Harvesting | Things The Books Won't Tell You
These are some issues we've run into when setting up a rainwater harvesting system. They might be easily overlooked but important to consider.
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U pile those rocks nice .u can build a home like Spain rock n cement house vila
Get gutter guards
Get pressure cookers still water 💦 safe
If you’re going to use silicone please use aquarium safe silicone… other silicones have toxins in them.
Great warning. Thanks.
@@sandhills2344 maybe he does care about toxins but didn't realize there were toxins in either...or maybe he plans some type of filtration system down the road.
E -6000 and/or NP-1 are by far the best
Thanks for taking the time to share your experience with us Jim! It looks like you have your system really dialed in. Let the rain begin!
It's definitely a lot better. I think going as simple as possible is always the way to go. Much more sustainable and less chances of things going wrong.
Simple, no pretence, straight to the point. Thanks for the great tips.
Best tip I can give you is dont use plastic tanks but concrete. Concrete counteract/neutralise acid rain water.
We studied with Billy Kniffen who was with Texas A&M Extension. I think he trained the guy who wrote those books. We got a book from Billy called Rainwater Harvesting Planning and Installation offered through Texas A&M Extension. It has so much critical information that we call it our rain water bible. LoL! You might look for it! I hope your tanks fill up this summer!
This video made me wonder why you guys didn't drain the poly tanks while there was no rain and move them closer to shed, so that initial catchment was poly tanks with cistern as overflow? Probably something I'm missing.
The poly tanks are their ONLY supply of water. That is why they didnt drain them.
Great video! These are tips that would be hard to anticipate without the experience that you've gained the hard way. One of the functions of any pioneer is to scout the territory and report back to the folks following behind. Thanks for breaking trail.
Always wise to listen to folks who learned the hard way !
Why not get a couple of 55 gallon drums, use the first one for a debris filter, the second one fills 3/4 before dumping into your other tanks.
Some people set up a diverter, so the first 5 gallons dump on the ground taking all the crap with it, so you just get clean rainwater.
You're so articulate with thoughtful presentation that inspires me to do this in the future. Thank you.
Such a great, organized, concise video. Seriously underrated channel!
It might be wise to add a cleanable U trap between the horizontal collector pipe and the down-across-up link to the tank farm. Your filters will keep out most bugs and big particles but dust and sand may get through and over time block that underground gray pipe.
Thanks Jim for going over how you have changed your system since the first time you were harvesting rain water. I really enjoyed this.
Jim...great job!!! May I suggest that you form the filter screens over a ball or cone before installing them...that way any debris will deflect and not clog the screen. Keep up the great work...very inspiring indeed.
Great video. One thing I notice is those looooong horizontal stretches of pipe over the cistern. They will sag within a year based on my experience. This may be OK for you and if not, think about support to keep them straight before they kind of melt-sag based on sun :)
Good point and being black won't help.
Can you show us how much you've collected with the last week of storms? I am so looking forward to seeing the payoff, to all your work, with rainwater pouring into those plastic tanks! :)
It's dark in the poly tanks, but I know we've collected close to 500 gallons so far.
There is no substitute for good planning/design 🔥⛈🦠
Beautiful rainbow. Very well thought out, I appreciate the tip about the 90's most.
Thank you Jim and Jessica for sharing your rainwater harvesting experience. These are very helpful considerations and I appreciate your generosity. ❤
Thank you guys for your time and energy in sharing your journey with us.
Jim. Excellent video. Straight to the point. Thank you.
Such a ambitious and ingenious system.. just amazing Jim .
I hope to build a small system for my garden one day. I appreciate the info. Thank you!
Thanks for sharing your knowledge. This will help many!
❤️❤️I love you two! You are so down to earth! 😂😂it’s such a wonderful undertaking!
super informative, thank you!!
Thank you both for sharing your experiences in this whole process.
Thanks for Taking the time to make this
Its so true that you learn by doing and sometimes re-doing.😉 Thanks for sharing, you brought up ideas that I can incorporate into my eight yr old water catchment system. Also love Brad Lancaster's books 📚.
Great video.
Totally agree about Brad Lancaster's books.
Flex seal....yeah baby! Glad you used it.😁
Good to see you'll be saving and using you're own water supply and looks good how you've done it to me...I understood why you changed it now from the old system all trail and error but that's how you learn love watching you both always amazing 👏
Thanks for these! Very helpful
Thank you so much for your humerus you and knowledge
Awesome video thanks for sharing
Dreamed of moving out there before I moved. When googling the areas I always saw these gaint green circles. I hope those who can drain wells are listening and
reevaluate thier systems.
Will check out your other vid and pick up a copy of those books.
Thanks
Thanks for the tips Mr. Jim. Time to catch some water now! Good luck and keep us updated.
Thanks CB! Will do.
super good video!! great info. I hope it makes you lots of money.
It`s always such a pleasure looking at your videos.. I really love all Jess arts, she is so talented. Love all the types of work that you do, we can learn from you.
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Super good info when I set up my rain water harvesting.
Good information and tips. Experience is the best teacher.
Good usable information, take care and God bless amen.
I'd be interested in how much water you end up getting in the underground cistern (during the monsoon season)
Also, please answer why you didn't move the poly tanks closer to the end of the shed (between the shed and underground cistern) as that would have simplified your piping considerably
@@onlyscience7120 yes, that's theory
I'm asking what he ACTUALLY got
@@onlyscience7120 that's ridiculous logic.
I'm not asking for that level of precision and no one else expects that either.
I lived in a RV for years and know about what a person uses per day on average and it's 8 to 20 gallons. Yes, they've got plants and livestock but the day after a rain in that large of an underground cistern their use MIGHT be 1/10 of an inch, if that.
So a BALLPARK estimate of the water he captured is entirely feasible and practical.
Thank you it was helpful to generate my system in the woods 🎉
Great info, and the editing was awesome
To think you could have only put out such an excellent video on water catchment was from all your previous missteps. Nice job!
Hello friend, I've watched about 8 episodes of ur efforts out there, & I'm enjoying ur progress, as ur moving along. That 14,000 gallon cistern was an impressive build. Nice design too.***!!! Love Brthrn Jeff B.
having the screens like you do now can allow you to remove and clean/replace as needed as well. Great info Jim & Jess!
Exactly right! Thanks Paul!
Thanks for sharing this video and your rainwater harvest tips. How often do you sweep the perimeter of the cistern roof to minimize dust and dirt from entering your cistern? Wishing you and Jessica a blessed summer season with abundant rain and moderate sleeping temperatures. Peace brother.
Great information.
Nothing will seal the gutter when they are 100" long as the expansion and contraction of the Aluminum is going to either take the joints apart or take the screws loose and then they come down.
hmmm, that's a good point.
Hopefully that will take a couple years(or better a few),might be a good time to start a fund to start saving to replace.
Gutters don't need sealants esp.
IF they are properly spaced and placed, correctly angled and sloped and well-placed proper supports. Sealants have chemicals which are dangerous to health and unsafe for drinking... I am speaking from experience. Many decades thriving on rain-water for drinking and other house use from my rain-catcher.
It looks great! I hope you collect a whole lot of water from your system.
Thanks for the video! Was recently wondering about filtering the water from harvesting which might contain bird poop. Would love to see a video on how people treat harvested water. Thanks!
Curios, have you thought about moving your poly tanks closer to a direct flow and then have the overflow go to your cistern? Just a question since you brought it up. I am interested in moving somewhere to the desert and your videos as well as others are a big help.
Tank you for you information
Great explanation 🙏
Research is the way to go. Your doing a good job
Thanks Jim one of are customers might try water harvesting her well only yields 2 gpm and she has a lot of horses she has a indoor riding arena 200 by 75 feet and may opt to only use halve of it we get a lot more rain here in Alberta thanks for the tips.
Thanks for the video! :)
Thank you Matt!
Thanks guys💯💙
Thanks for the information. You are absolutely correct about the hard 90's - you want to avoid those, You may want to split to multiple 30's or 45's to make the bends and limit those. Also, as someone else mentioned, I'd move the two tanks closer to the roof. I'd also cover them to try and keep the water cooler and less evaporation.
Why the exposed black pipe- is that for cold nights?
Great job on this video.
thank you for those tips. I am planning also to build a house that catches water
Me encantó este tipo de reflexión de aprendizaje.
Thank you sir.
Well spoken thoughtful video. Thank you for sharing all these tips. You might have read Geoff Lawton, an expert on water retention for soil.
Very well done but logical things to think about.
Thank you.
Amazing trailblazing!
Enjoyed the show
jest gutters, live in Oregon have to clean my gutters twice a year they plug up, I know down in your neck of the woods no gutter on any houses you are going the right direction thanks
Good Job there Jim !!!!
Good suggestions
I like making dirt, catching rain and converting sunshine into energy. I have other hobbies but those are among my favorites.
Thank you
Thank you for the information guys. I used to do MEP engineering drawings, and the slope is highly crucial to pressure and rate of flow. I'm assuming the angles in the pipes are there to allow easier passage through there. Does it affect the water's ability to travel with ease? Just curious 😀
Thanks for sharing! Most of Arizona have desert like environment but I wonder Why people/you don't live in the Northern part like Flagstaff areas??
Great video
great information 😎
Ha I have a request
Please
You have a large rain roof
With a wet drain to your tanks
When you get heavy rain..
With your rain gauge
You can monitor the flow in the 4inch PVC. If If hits maximum flow
the screened tees in your system should over flow
And which ones started / where over flowing
If you can keep tract of those numbers
That could help some of us designing a similar system..
,(I have read what the books say their flow rate should be
But yours is the real world)
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Thank You
Love yall
thank you
Thanks for the good tips. If your only water source is rain water you need to have the ability to catch as much of it as you can while it’s raining. We get pine needle build up in our gutters and in the screen that covers the downspout. We lose some water because of it but luckily for us in SE Alaska, rain is not in short supply😂
I didn't know that about silicone, thanks!
jim , great job on the video
System looks great
If you find the 4 inch screens building up with dirt
They make 4" to 6" PVC adaptors
Might help with clogging
Also if some of you may have problems thinking these sweeps may be to restrictive
In electrical the 4" PVC sweeps have a much larger radius
Nice 👍👍👍👍 work
As a young farmer...you have really inspired
Jim, if you are anything like me you will do it at least three times before you get it right. The system you have should work well but you will have fine dirt build up in the pipe underground which will be a problem over time. Build a diverter to catch the first flush and this should solve the problem.
You should also put a slight down turn on your sheets of iron, this will stop water running back under the panels
Can you get circle large surface area over the storage tank too.?a step system down slopes just to get a water flowing faster.
Hi guys , I'm far from being a expert like some of the people so I'll just follow along and pay attention .
Keep it close , keep it simple.....gotcha👍
Thank you for sharing.
I may end up missing out on this whole season’s monsoons as I have yet to get a cistern. I’m hoping to buy one or two this week in Santa Fe but I’ll still have to do all my gutters and pipes. I’ll have 360’ of gutter alone - 105’ each side of a pavilion alone and the rest across 10 edges. No way to keep it as simple as yours is currently. I wish. My PDC instructor suggested I try ferro-cement but I’d already seen what you went through. My thoughts are to take 4” PVC pipe and cut in half and hang that with lags and brackets maybe but I do like what you ended up doing. So thanks again for sharing.
I thought of pvc cut in half also but Jim said he tried it and is now using standard ducts so I guess it didnt work out but he didnt elaborate. Maybe he will share that with us both here.
@@thebirdsnest9396 - I’m not certain I saw that episode. If I give it a try - I would use sch. 40 - not thin wall (sch. 20?). Thin wall wouldn’t be any better than the stuff that got perforated by golf ball sized hail. A “neighbor” in the construction business did that. He’s hardly ever home so I’ve not seen what he did.
I think ferrocement could still work. We just need to refine our technique
Yep thumps up here too!
Two questions...
1) Why didn't you build your pole barn high enough to park your RVs under?
2a) Why drop down to (under)ground level, the ten foot section at the end of your gutter run?
2b) Why not just run the pipe straight across to the cistern and then over to the black holding tanks? (Ok, technically three questions...lol}
Thanks and I enjoy your videos.
My thoughts precisely. Adding those four? extra 90's plus the rise on the other side will be a huge resistor in the water flow.
Installing a pipe stand either beside or on top of the cistern I think would have been far more practical and probably less work in the end.
I thought the same thing. As he was saying “keep it simple”, he’s got that drop, 10’(?) stretch underground and then 6’+ back up to the top of the cistern. Why not just run that span overhead? 🤔
Excellent information but I have a problem with having screened catchers a little ways down from my roof and when it rains really hard they overflow. Somewhere I read that there is an optimum distance between the heights of the downspout intake and the height of the intake on the storage tank. Do you know what this distance should be. The distance between the downspout and the top of the tank is now is about 12". thank you
thanks nice
What about using the gutter guards to keep debris out in the first place?
You said it best. K.I.S.S. Method. I hope monsoon season fills your tanks.
how large is your poly tanks and your cistern? and how did you size it because im in a similar situation here in mexico where i have some what similar weather patterens as you do in arizona