Rule # 1 dealing with women, she’ll never admit the real reason why she is rejecting you. Rule #2 they will never accept accountability, rule # 3 listen to her actions not her words
that is generally true also for a part of men but men have more genes for real communication and bonding. The relationships woman have among themselves are often superficial and weak. Woman have far less harshness in life therefore they don't have the amount of challenge to develop an exceptional personality and to create high quality relationships. There are exceptions but it is rare.
I had a female friend once. Obviously, I wanted to have sex with her etc but I always knew she would never be interested. I decided one day to test this friendship and see what would happen if I didn't call her. I haven't heard from that woman in over 15 years.
"I had a female friend once. Obviously, I wanted to have sex with her " - JFC, and how are you people even surprised at your live outcomes being shitty. I have a female friend with whom I am, for example going to art galleries, restaurants etc. We also talk a lot about other stuff, including troubles in relations and at work. But I don't want to fukk her. She is my friend, and a good one, a rare occurrence in this day and age. You know, learning to not treat every female around you as a potential p-sleeve may be a good way forward in life. Generally speaking, acknowledging the fact that universe owes you nothing and in this society you are pretty much expendable as a male and adjusting your social expectations accordingly can help you a lot in your life. It did wonders for me. That being said, if you stopped calling that girl at some point in your life and she never bother to maintain contact, you were never her "friend" just some random orbiter. May actually be a good thing she did not contacted you afterwards.
@@nelsonhibbert5267 Uhh, it's not that. We are both in top 1% of iq, so every now and then we like to have an intelligent talk with someone on our level. And we pretty much like similar things as far as art and philosophy is concerned... so no, no screwing on this one for me. Would be hard to replace her as my intellectual 'dancing partner', considering how feminaSSi typical smart women are these days.
If a women even attempts to friendzone you, you immediately say no thanks and ghost. Women friendzone guys because she knows he’s interested but she’s not, so she intends to use his interest to get boyfriend favors without having to put out
Women friendzone guys to avoid angry reactions if guys were just punched with "no!" in their faces. You average guy is usually twice as strong as average girl, he could brutalize her in a fit of rage. This sort of soft rejection is more like evolutionary adaptation for survival.
@@gabriellang7998 Excuse me, according to modern mainstream cultural thought, men and women are of equal strength, please stop spreading hate due to your internalized misogyny.
I've been there man! I've definitely felt that way. Your life definitely matters. I know it's hard to see that sometimes especially when life gets stressful.
@@dyardsale5475 I feel you man. Thanks! I appreciate it. I do my best to give an honest testimony of both sides of the coin based on my own experiences.
Great content man. As a 6'1 4/10, I can confirm that there's nothing more true in the US dating market that a cute face wins over everything else. You could even be chubby but with cute face you have an impressive advantage over every other trait. I have a friend who does nothing but just play video games, you couldn't have a conversation with him on any other subject but sports and he gets the girls cause he's blessed with a symmetrical face. I believe the "confidence" most girls say you need to have is basically knowing you have a cute face which makes you confident to speak to random girls.
Thanks man! I appreciate it. I definitely think that your face(hair, eye area, jawline, etc.) is the most important factor in dating with height being a close second.
@@ascended266 💯, or don't know why but a friend of a friend 🙃 knows dudes who do drug dealing and they are ugly AF still have gorgeous girls that only a chad 9+ making high six figures could have the chance to date but that's the bad boy attraction some women have towards criminals.
Last time I tried dealing with a foid was back in 2018. As soon as I asked a simple question on whether or not she wanted to "go out", she said "idk" and tried to act like it wasn't a big deal, in which at that point I was already on the brink of falling off (socially in general) as well as my attention span was already drying up; I broke off that "friendship" that she had in mind immediately. Of course, around that time as well, the black pill was consuming my ever-being, so it was easy to break free and just say "phuk it". Never saw that chick again and don't care. Once you let go of women's BS, it feels like a ton of bricks being lifted off your shoulders. I no longer have to have any engagement, responsibilities, etc. with said species... Thank God!
Brother please don't feel bad !!! THEY ARE ALL THE SAME !!! Your story hit different. love you brother and I wish all the happiness and prosperity for you.. Love from India 🇮🇳
I was redpilled did everything lost weight got into a relationship and she just was not giving me s.x . I was kinda a rock for her to cry on and I allowed her. I was available. I knew this was not gona work for the beginning but gave a chance anyway. I felt used and abused so I ended it . Blackpilled but with a bit reddish ends.
I'm 62, and at 5-8 and average-looking it was not easy but POSSIBLE to find a decent girl in the 80s and 90s. I feel really bad for you younger guys. These women today are delusional and not worth the BS.
Goddamn this was brutal...the disingenuous and dishonest nature of women never stops amazing me. I've heard before that it's not in thier nature to be honest or have any actual values other than the value they place on status and their own appearance so In a way I'm not surprised she gaslit you while also stringing you along damn. Reality is like thier kryptonite though that's why she got mad when you implied she friend zoned you cause of your looks lol.
Yup. Women are inherently solipsisstic. You can't rely on them to have traits such as character and integrity, as these are mostly traits found in men.
Dude not even church girls are exempt from treating men like shit. I had one show me interest then she ghosted me then I would reach out every two months just to say hi. She blocked me after the third time. This is someone I met at church and was a missionary for the church. What a cold hearted bish. So church girls are the same as non church girls.
I mean, in part it is common decency to not want to humiliate somebody when rejecting them. Would you prefer somebody to tell you "I don't like you and nobody will because you're bald and a fat fuck"?
I actually tried to blackpill a girl who rejected me I said that looks do matter, that all I can do is try to improve myself, no point in being hung up about rejection, just gotta move on from it and get better. she had the typical comeback of personality confidence blah blah blah She seemed almost surprised that I wasn't more angry or sad about it, that I didn't take it personally. I guess in reality I had already accepted the rejection before it even happened, I just had to get it out of my system so I could stop obsessing over it. Disclaimer: I am not sub-5, I would say I am fairly average in terms of looks especially after getting into self improvement and the gym 2 years ago, losing 20 kilos
Haha that's funny that she told you personality and confidence matter the most. That's awesome that you lost 20 kilos. Getting lean is one of the best things you can do for your looks and your health.
@@ascended266 man i roamed a foreign city with this gal for like a month. We had a great time together and she enjoyed my company enough that we broke off from the group to do our own thing. I genuinely thought i had a chance It is what it is.
They know they will suck up his soul and time friendzoning. But they never pity that guy. Not all women friendzone guys. But those who do, do it on a regular basis. They don't care, as they enjoy attention. They quickly jump on another victim, repeating the pattern. Attention is not something free in this world. It's your time, your caring and emotions. It's something special, only good women and friends deserve. Those women deserve nothing from you. They rob and deceive you. They are the bad ones, the manipulators. I agree it's all about biology and much simpler. It's not complex at all, it's just we were being lied to, hence we couldn't make it out. It's all simple and obvious. It's also manipulation, because you can utilize males so much more if they have false hope.
@@ascended266 And also the despise she brings later on, after years of "fiendship", saying you're not a man enough, and she never considered intimacy with you (making you feel really subhuman) and it was your own choice, putting blame on you. A classic case when she meets you on a street with another guy she sleeps with, and he asks "who is that guy, who said "hi"?", and she replies, "oh, nobody..."
Looks do matter!! any woman who does not find you attractive wouldn't ever bother giving the opportunity to show how "great of a guy" you could possibly be! lol if you do not fulfill the genetic or aesthtic requirements to be considered attractive then chances are you won't be able to score sh1t. women are more likely to endure any kind of psychological and emotional abuse and maltreatment from a guy they find attractive but not from a "friend". I can also tell stories but they're not like yours though.
Yep! Nailed it. If they don't find you attractive initially, no amount of personality, charisma, sense of humor or "game" is going to help you. If you meet the initial threshold, all those things definitely help but if you can't get your foot in the door, you're done. Thanks for watching!
@@ascended266 Don't forget telling me your thoughts in regards the very first coment I made on one of your videos. it's kinda long but I need your feedbacks about it, ok?
I think both have their merits. I was lucky enough to improve my looks substantially. I didn't really find the blackpill until I was 300 pounds. I think the blackpill is becoming more mainstream as time goes on. There are a lot of good looking men that are aware and followers of the blackpill. The redpill does appear to a lot more "normies" though I do agree.
I'm sub 5 too and I know how hard this is. My life has several similar experiences. I've never had much trouble going out with girls on dates. However, the only thing we did was talk. I never had intimate moments with them and it always frustrated me (and the black pill explained the truth to me). The guys they had relationships with were always more aesthetically outstanding than me (and sometimes, in addition to appearance, they also had more money). It's pretty frustrating ALWAYS being in the friend zone.
Thanks for sharing man! Yeah, the truth around the importance of looks definitely gives you some peace of mind. I found that improving your appearance as much as possible definitely helps you avoid the friendzone much more than when you don't look that great.
people say women friend zone men as back up, but its a polite way of rejecting, furthermore they have so many options these days they dont need back ups I hate black pill but its true for fuck sake haha a 6.5 girl getting with an 8, how typical. 6'4 sharp jaw, hunter eyes, i see this in real life all the time of course, Dan is a player, all the girls go for him of course the girl gaslights you about looks! you can sleep with a girl a few times have good sex, then get friendzoned because she jumps to a chad/giga chad...
Yep! The gaslighting about how I was obsessed with my hair loss was so frustrating looking back lol there's a reason you are friendzoned and it's 5 letters....LOOKS
@@ascended266 YES, its always LOOKS and they always downplay it in case they get murdered for calling a man ugly. girls are SO LOOKS FOCUSED, make up, they learn about faces, contouring things, so they look at that on men too. funny thing is, no matter what race, where they are in the globe, they give out the same excuses/same lines. men have predictable behaviour too because women have more options, the bar is rising, so normies struggling and completely priced out commonly in the west. it seems like HTN and above these days
@@oldfashionedwrx3574 Right. I've never understood why guys say that "men are more visual." In my experience, this isn't the case. Women are much pickier with who they date and for obvious good reason as they have to deal with pregnancy and having a child so it makes sense why they would be choosy. Dating is getting much more competitive these days with the rise of technology.
@@ascended266 yes, the social media and technology is the nail in the coffin. so many men are still low cognitive ability but still coping, even smart guys coping but deep down they know. WOMEN PAINT ON A NEW FACE, cover up most flaws, look not all women do this. my point is women do a lot of looksmaxxing themselves and are masters at it. so it shows they pick on looks in a way and they home in more in on looks as they focus so much on their own. men have to pay child support still, on the hook if they knock a woman up. but the biology is the same. WOMEN ARE PICKY. so many men COPE
I'm not sure if looks was completely the reason, part of it could've been that you were hanging out way too long without making any moves so she just saw you as a friend because that had been what was established. So perhaps game might've been part of it.
Yeah, it definitely didn't help not making my intentions clear from the start that I was interested in her. I knew her for over a year and then finally asked her out so looking back, what did I expect? Lol Looks definitely played a large role in her not being interested though. Thanks for watching Eli!
@@ascended266 I mean I can see where looks can play a role if you were a Chad she might've still said yes or even thrown herself at you. But at the same time if you had asked her out early she might've gone ahead and said yes, you never know. At least you would've known early on instead of basically wasting a year of liking her but making no moves. I'd say the bottom line if you're a Chad then game probably isn't all that important but a normie or lower much less margin for error. I just don't think looks are everything but they are a factor.
@@eliarbaiza Yeah, I hear you. Asking a woman out much earlier is a much better move than what I did back then. I definitely wasted a year and a half on someone that had zero interest in me.
Even as a man you must have very big balls to admit, that you’re rejecting another person mainly because of his or her looks. In such inconvenient situations you’re normally trying to make up a lame excuse in order not to hurt someone’s feelings or just to prove to yourself that you’re not such a shallow person 😢😅(don’t know which smiley to apply…).
Its all about people playing their options. This woman was young, in her prime. She felt she still had time to chase after the Chads Women know they are at their peak sexual market value, when they are younger than 30 ( maybe between the age of 18 - 25, then goes down a bit each year, depending on genetics). I think of it as a "batting order" A woman will try to chase after the gym trainers, the studs, the handsome guy from college / work. but she will also have " guy friends" these are men who are interested in her. She can string them along and back up plans. This way, if things do not work out, after that fling with the handome guy she can choose between 3 other guys who are chasing her ( male orbiters). A woman with that level of confidence ( she always has a man, in the wings ready for the rebound) knows she has options. Of course she might as well try to go for Chad
I, as a sub3, can at least be happy to be even too ugly for the friendzone. At least false signals aren't send to me and Ik its over with no return, not like sub5s fighting over who's the best orbiter.
Assuming you don’t always have the same facial expression as you do in your profile pic, you’re not a sub 3. If you have a more normal facial expression I’d probably give you at least 7 or 8…but attractiveness is partly subjective and I prefer punk-looking guys with little to no facial hair so my higher score is just my biased opinion.
No a first world problem is complaining about the men you willingly chase. No one is forcing her or them to chase guys which are good looking but abuse them.
I just hate the hypocrisy of women. Don't get me wrong, I don't blame girls for rejecting a not-so-beautiful guy. I blame them for actual lying and saying to everyone they don't care for looks, but for some inner features, which they obviously don't care about.
As a introverted 7/10 guy, ( Slightly above average ) game does not matter. I get the most awkward conversation srrarters from women I'm not remotely aquatinted with. It really isnt that fun getting fake attention from girls. So ill try and be as open about my flaws as possible to more down to earth women., without getting called a "weak male" for expressing thoughts. Will update how that goes.
Rule # 1 dealing with women, she’ll never admit the real reason why she is rejecting you. Rule #2 they will never accept accountability, rule # 3 listen to her actions not her words
true
They fear sounding like a bad person, until she is among her other cackling hens.
that is generally true also for a part of men but men have more genes for real communication and bonding. The relationships woman have among themselves are often superficial and weak.
Woman have far less harshness in life therefore they don't have the amount of challenge to develop an exceptional personality and to create high quality relationships. There are exceptions but it is rare.
I had a female friend once. Obviously, I wanted to have sex with her etc but I always knew she would never be interested. I decided one day to test this friendship and see what would happen if I didn't call her. I haven't heard from that woman in over 15 years.
Brutal! Lol well hey at least you don't have to waste your time on her. Thanks for watching.
"I had a female friend once. Obviously, I wanted to have sex with her " - JFC, and how are you people even surprised at your live outcomes being shitty.
I have a female friend with whom I am, for example going to art galleries, restaurants etc. We also talk a lot about other stuff, including troubles in relations and at work.
But I don't want to fukk her. She is my friend, and a good one, a rare occurrence in this day and age.
You know, learning to not treat every female around you as a potential p-sleeve may be a good way forward in life. Generally speaking, acknowledging the fact that universe owes you nothing and in this society you are pretty much expendable as a male and adjusting your social expectations accordingly can help you a lot in your life. It did wonders for me.
That being said, if you stopped calling that girl at some point in your life and she never bother to maintain contact, you were never her "friend" just some random orbiter. May actually be a good thing she did not contacted you afterwards.
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@@nelsonhibbert5267 Uhh, it's not that.
We are both in top 1% of iq, so every now and then we like to have an intelligent talk with someone on our level. And we pretty much like similar things as far as art and philosophy is concerned... so no, no screwing on this one for me. Would be hard to replace her as my intellectual 'dancing partner', considering how feminaSSi typical smart women are these days.
You guys at least getting Friendzoned! Meanwhile I'm invisible 😂
Blackpilled too early in life to have any friendzone stories.
Nice! Thanks for watching.
@@ascended266yeah "nice"
😂😂😂@@cokta006
"nice" is crazy 💀
I wish i was blackpilled as soon because it would explain alot.
If a women even attempts to friendzone you, you immediately say no thanks and ghost. Women friendzone guys because she knows he’s interested but she’s not, so she intends to use his interest to get boyfriend favors without having to put out
Women friendzone guys to avoid angry reactions if guys were just punched with "no!" in their faces.
You average guy is usually twice as strong as average girl, he could brutalize her in a fit of rage.
This sort of soft rejection is more like evolutionary adaptation for survival.
@@gabriellang7998That's fine. Doesn't mean I have to stay friends with her.
Good point, but not every male is uncultured, no brain person that going crazy over a girl reject him tho.
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@@gabriellang7998 Excuse me, according to modern mainstream cultural thought, men and women are of equal strength, please stop spreading hate due to your internalized misogyny.
One of the Main Laws of Existing Life, is that “LIFE IS NOT FAIR and NEVER WILL BE FAIR”.
Very true! Thanks for watching!
I gave up on life when I finally accepted that I never counted.
Same
I've been there man! I've definitely felt that way. Your life definitely matters. I know it's hard to see that sometimes especially when life gets stressful.
@@ascended266 It's not stress it's biological worthlessness. I like your channel, it's an honest testimony.
@@dyardsale5475 I feel you man. Thanks! I appreciate it. I do my best to give an honest testimony of both sides of the coin based on my own experiences.
Love these stories. Never happened to me as I was insanely introverted and lonely and living on a tiny island during my peak years
Thanks JC! I guess that's one benefit of living on a tiny island! Thanks for commenting!
Thanks JC! I appreciate it. I guess that's one positive about living on a tiny island lol
Over for small islandCels
Great content man. As a 6'1 4/10, I can confirm that there's nothing more true in the US dating market that a cute face wins over everything else. You could even be chubby but with cute face you have an impressive advantage over every other trait. I have a friend who does nothing but just play video games, you couldn't have a conversation with him on any other subject but sports and he gets the girls cause he's blessed with a symmetrical face. I believe the "confidence" most girls say you need to have is basically knowing you have a cute face which makes you confident to speak to random girls.
Thanks man! I appreciate it. I definitely think that your face(hair, eye area, jawline, etc.) is the most important factor in dating with height being a close second.
@@ascended266 💯, or don't know why but a friend of a friend 🙃 knows dudes who do drug dealing and they are ugly AF still have gorgeous girls that only a chad 9+ making high six figures could have the chance to date but that's the bad boy attraction some women have towards criminals.
@@net2dev if ur chad, u dont need six figures too bang a 9/10 chick.
Nobody pulls you away from a gym, fillers, hair system and stylish clothes. I sincerely wish you many success🎉
Last time I tried dealing with a foid was back in 2018. As soon as I asked a simple question on whether or not she wanted to "go out", she said "idk" and tried to act like it wasn't a big deal, in which at that point I was already on the brink of falling off (socially in general) as well as my attention span was already drying up; I broke off that "friendship" that she had in mind immediately. Of course, around that time as well, the black pill was consuming my ever-being, so it was easy to break free and just say "phuk it". Never saw that chick again and don't care. Once you let go of women's BS, it feels like a ton of bricks being lifted off your shoulders. I no longer have to have any engagement, responsibilities, etc. with said species... Thank God!
Brother please don't feel bad !!! THEY ARE ALL THE SAME !!! Your story hit different. love you brother and I wish all the happiness and prosperity for you..
Love from India 🇮🇳
Thanks Nazir! I appreciate it.
I was redpilled did everything lost weight got into a relationship and she just was not giving me s.x . I was kinda a rock for her to cry on and I allowed her. I was available. I knew this was not gona work for the beginning but gave a chance anyway. I felt used and abused so I ended it . Blackpilled but with a bit reddish ends.
Did y'all ever have sex if at all in the relationship? Cause if not that's just brutal she kept you around as an emotional crutch.
Thanks for watching Azzam! Use this experience as a learning lesson going forward.
I'm 62, and at 5-8 and average-looking it was not easy but POSSIBLE to find a decent girl in the 80s and 90s. I feel really bad for you younger guys. These women today are delusional and not worth the BS.
Goddamn this was brutal...the disingenuous and dishonest nature of women never stops amazing me. I've heard before that it's not in thier nature to be honest or have any actual values other than the value they place on status and their own appearance so In a way I'm not surprised she gaslit you while also stringing you along damn. Reality is like thier kryptonite though that's why she got mad when you implied she friend zoned you cause of your looks lol.
Yeah, the gaslighting was really brutal looking back. She definitely friendzoned me 100% for my looks lol
Yup. Women are inherently solipsisstic. You can't rely on them to have traits such as character and integrity, as these are mostly traits found in men.
Dude not even church girls are exempt from treating men like shit. I had one show me interest then she ghosted me then I would reach out every two months just to say hi. She blocked me after the third time. This is someone I met at church and was a missionary for the church. What a cold hearted bish. So church girls are the same as non church girls.
I mean, in part it is common decency to not want to humiliate somebody when rejecting them.
Would you prefer somebody to tell you "I don't like you and nobody will because you're bald and a fat fuck"?
The voice cracking always gets me😢
Haha glad you enjoy it!
Man you really deserve hats off for your sincerity.
Haha thanks Jack!
Never accept being friendzoned. It can never be a true friendship since it wasn't borne out of genuine desire for it.
I actually tried to blackpill a girl who rejected me
I said that looks do matter, that all I can do is try to improve myself, no point in being hung up about rejection, just gotta move on from it and get better.
she had the typical comeback of personality confidence blah blah blah
She seemed almost surprised that I wasn't more angry or sad about it, that I didn't take it personally.
I guess in reality I had already accepted the rejection before it even happened, I just had to get it out of my system so I could stop obsessing over it.
Disclaimer: I am not sub-5, I would say I am fairly average in terms of looks especially after getting into self improvement and the gym 2 years ago, losing 20 kilos
Haha that's funny that she told you personality and confidence matter the most. That's awesome that you lost 20 kilos. Getting lean is one of the best things you can do for your looks and your health.
@@ascended266 man i roamed a foreign city with this gal for like a month. We had a great time together and she enjoyed my company enough that we broke off from the group to do our own thing.
I genuinely thought i had a chance
It is what it is.
She generally doesn’t lie when she speaks about your personality,
…but it’s about your personality BECAUSE OF YOUR LOOKS.
Thank you for sharing. This is my therapy. Finally, the truth
They know they will suck up his soul and time friendzoning. But they never pity that guy.
Not all women friendzone guys. But those who do, do it on a regular basis. They don't care, as they enjoy attention.
They quickly jump on another victim, repeating the pattern.
Attention is not something free in this world. It's your time, your caring and emotions. It's something special, only good women and friends deserve.
Those women deserve nothing from you. They rob and deceive you. They are the bad ones, the manipulators.
I agree it's all about biology and much simpler. It's not complex at all, it's just we were being lied to, hence we couldn't make it out. It's all simple and obvious.
It's also manipulation, because you can utilize males so much more if they have false hope.
Well said Mike! It's the time commitment involved with being friendzoned that is the biggest drain.
@@ascended266 And also the despise she brings later on, after years of "fiendship", saying you're not a man enough, and she never considered intimacy with you (making you feel really subhuman) and it was your own choice, putting blame on you.
A classic case when she meets you on a street with another guy she sleeps with, and he asks "who is that guy, who said "hi"?", and she replies, "oh, nobody..."
I have alot of stories like these ones. I'm redpilled but I can see how you became blackpilled after all these experiences.
Give it awhile
Looks do matter!! any woman who does not find you attractive wouldn't ever bother giving the opportunity to show how "great of a guy" you could possibly be! lol if you do not fulfill the genetic or aesthtic requirements to be considered attractive then chances are you won't be able to score sh1t. women are more likely to endure any kind of psychological and emotional abuse and maltreatment from a guy they find attractive but not from a "friend". I can also tell stories but they're not like yours though.
Yep! Nailed it. If they don't find you attractive initially, no amount of personality, charisma, sense of humor or "game" is going to help you. If you meet the initial threshold, all those things definitely help but if you can't get your foot in the door, you're done. Thanks for watching!
@@ascended266 Don't forget telling me your thoughts in regards the very first coment I made on one of your videos. it's kinda long but I need your feedbacks about it, ok?
@@ascended266 just get your foot in the door, bro.
@@josephcieplak8920 Yeah! Maybe Alpha M's face creams will help me get my foot in the door :P
Red pill is for normies, black pill is for sub fives.
i’m high tier normie but i chose to know the truth
@@JS-it3dx if you were high tier normie you wouldn’t be here lol stop coping
I think both have their merits. I was lucky enough to improve my looks substantially. I didn't really find the blackpill until I was 300 pounds. I think the blackpill is becoming more mainstream as time goes on. There are a lot of good looking men that are aware and followers of the blackpill. The redpill does appear to a lot more "normies" though I do agree.
@@techiskek Nope. I have plenty of women interested in me. I just hate socializing so here I am. Not everyone is ugly, cope.
270 lbs thats too heavy. i cant even walk that
Will you be telling stories post looksmaxxing? Would be funny to hear the contrast, and how much your 'confidence' improved :)
Yes! I will definitely be posting stories post looksmaxxing. My confidence definitely improved for sure lol thanks for watching Granjero!
3:59 you know a this point it was already over
Haha whomp whomp whomp yep it was over!
She was clearly virtue signaling with the facesbook stuff
I'm sub 5 too and I know how hard this is.
My life has several similar experiences.
I've never had much trouble going out with girls on dates. However, the only thing we did was talk. I never had intimate moments with them and it always frustrated me (and the black pill explained the truth to me). The guys they had relationships with were always more aesthetically outstanding than me (and sometimes, in addition to appearance, they also had more money).
It's pretty frustrating ALWAYS being in the friend zone.
Thanks for sharing man! Yeah, the truth around the importance of looks definitely gives you some peace of mind. I found that improving your appearance as much as possible definitely helps you avoid the friendzone much more than when you don't look that great.
12:50 Jesus 😂😂😂
people say women friend zone men as back up, but its a polite way of rejecting, furthermore they have so many options these days they dont need back ups
I hate black pill but its true for fuck sake haha
a 6.5 girl getting with an 8, how typical.
6'4 sharp jaw, hunter eyes, i see this in real life all the time
of course, Dan is a player, all the girls go for him
of course the girl gaslights you about looks!
you can sleep with a girl a few times have good sex, then get friendzoned because she jumps to a chad/giga chad...
Yep! The gaslighting about how I was obsessed with my hair loss was so frustrating looking back lol there's a reason you are friendzoned and it's 5 letters....LOOKS
@@ascended266 YES, its always LOOKS and they always downplay it in case they get murdered for calling a man ugly.
girls are SO LOOKS FOCUSED, make up, they learn about faces, contouring things, so they look at that on men too.
funny thing is, no matter what race, where they are in the globe, they give out the same excuses/same lines.
men have predictable behaviour too
because women have more options, the bar is rising, so normies struggling and completely priced out commonly in the west.
it seems like HTN and above these days
@@oldfashionedwrx3574 Right. I've never understood why guys say that "men are more visual." In my experience, this isn't the case. Women are much pickier with who they date and for obvious good reason as they have to deal with pregnancy and having a child so it makes sense why they would be choosy. Dating is getting much more competitive these days with the rise of technology.
@@ascended266 yes, the social media and technology is the nail in the coffin.
so many men are still low cognitive ability but still coping, even smart guys coping but deep down they know.
WOMEN PAINT ON A NEW FACE, cover up most flaws, look not all women do this. my point is women do a lot of looksmaxxing themselves and are masters at it.
so it shows they pick on looks in a way and they home in more in on looks as they focus so much on their own.
men have to pay child support still, on the hook if they knock a woman up. but the biology is the same.
WOMEN ARE PICKY.
so many men COPE
I'm not sure if looks was completely the reason, part of it could've been that you were hanging out way too long without making any moves so she just saw you as a friend because that had been what was established. So perhaps game might've been part of it.
Yeah, it definitely didn't help not making my intentions clear from the start that I was interested in her. I knew her for over a year and then finally asked her out so looking back, what did I expect? Lol Looks definitely played a large role in her not being interested though. Thanks for watching Eli!
@@ascended266 I mean I can see where looks can play a role if you were a Chad she might've still said yes or even thrown herself at you. But at the same time if you had asked her out early she might've gone ahead and said yes, you never know. At least you would've known early on instead of basically wasting a year of liking her but making no moves. I'd say the bottom line if you're a Chad then game probably isn't all that important but a normie or lower much less margin for error. I just don't think looks are everything but they are a factor.
@@eliarbaiza Yeah, I hear you. Asking a woman out much earlier is a much better move than what I did back then. I definitely wasted a year and a half on someone that had zero interest in me.
Women love to lead on men to feel powerful. They seek power just like us men. Did she eventually get pumped and dumped?
Yeah, the guy dumped her pretty soon after.
Sigma male: complains about being rejected by hottie.
(Also) sigma male: hello everybody, I'm your local sumo wrestler!
Hahaha works everytime!
Even as a man you must have very big balls to admit, that you’re rejecting another person mainly because of his or her looks. In such inconvenient situations you’re normally trying to make up a lame excuse in order not to hurt someone’s feelings or just to prove to yourself that you’re not such a shallow person 😢😅(don’t know which smiley to apply…).
Sounds like this still stings a bit bruv
Haha it definitely stung for awhile! I don't think about it too much these days though.
@@ascended266 Ι've got all sorts of rejection memories that still constantly cringe at. Shits brutal
Its all about people playing their options.
This woman was young, in her prime. She felt she still had time to chase after the Chads
Women know they are at their peak sexual market value, when they are younger than 30 ( maybe between the age of 18 - 25, then goes down a bit each year, depending on genetics).
I think of it as a "batting order"
A woman will try to chase after the gym trainers, the studs, the handsome guy from college / work.
but she will also have " guy friends" these are men who are interested in her. She can string them along and back up plans.
This way, if things do not work out, after that fling with the handome guy
she can choose between 3 other guys who are chasing her ( male orbiters).
A woman with that level of confidence ( she always has a man, in the wings ready for the rebound) knows she has options. Of course she might as well try to go for Chad
Well said, sir!
I, as a sub3, can at least be happy to be even too ugly for the friendzone. At least false signals aren't send to me and Ik its over with no return, not like sub5s fighting over who's the best orbiter.
Really? If you don’t mind me saying this but you’re not an ugly dude..
Bro... if that's you in your pfp then you're not a sub-3. Sub-3 is physical deformity levels of unattractiveness.
Bro are you just a head with a hand on your chin?
Assuming you don’t always have the same facial expression as you do in your profile pic, you’re not a sub 3. If you have a more normal facial expression I’d probably give you at least 7 or 8…but attractiveness is partly subjective and I prefer punk-looking guys with little to no facial hair so my higher score is just my biased opinion.
Shoop aah!!!
Are you still seeing her?
I'm in good shape but my face is average at best,5/10 nowadays is considered unattractive.
No a first world problem is complaining about the men you willingly chase. No one is forcing her or them to chase guys which are good looking but abuse them.
Guys friend zone themselves. Tell her youre interested and if she's not then move on. You stayed around pretending to be her friend. Not a good look.
Yeah, I didn't play it well. I was in college and was clueless with women back then.
If youre 6'2, and were 275 lbs, then at least with clothes on, you should look like youre in shape at 275 lbs with that height
The problem was the weight went to my face and I had a triple chin. I tend to store a lot of fat in my face.
Depends on your bone structure and how much weight you can carry.Im 6'3. 260 and in shape,I don't even look 260 because I carry it well.
I just hate the hypocrisy of women.
Don't get me wrong, I don't blame girls for rejecting a not-so-beautiful guy. I blame them for actual lying and saying to everyone they don't care for looks, but for some inner features, which they obviously don't care about.
As a introverted 7/10 guy, ( Slightly above average ) game does not matter. I get the most awkward conversation srrarters from women I'm not remotely aquatinted with. It really isnt that fun getting fake attention from girls. So ill try and be as open about my flaws as possible to more down to earth women., without getting called a "weak male" for expressing thoughts. Will update how that goes.
Haha right, game isn't nearly as important as people make it out to be especially when compared to your looks.