SP-404 MK2 vs MPC One // Are they on the same lvl now?
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- SP-404 MK2 vs MPC One // Are they on the same lvl now?
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ALREADY a new update with the SP-404 MK2!? I see where they might be going with this. How does it compare to the MPC One from a tactile/finger drumming perspective: the basics of design, feel, pad set up, mute groups ect. All of the things a more tactile performer might be interested in.
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Unfortunately no one in US seems like till late Jan when SP404 come in stock
to swap sample on pads on mpc hit assign samples from main screen bottom right.
How about a discount for the MPCX for live recording? I’m not a very good button-pusher.
@@rustikinc63 shops got them but decided to sell on eBay for $759-$900
So glad I found this video! I really like your approach to comparison here, it solidified for me why the 404mk2 is what I’m looking for with my intended usage.
Awesome! Glad to help 😊
Love those drum sounds....Downloaded your sample pack. Great work.
Thank you Nick! Very much appreciated.
Apples to apricots here. The One is a luxurious full-on workstation with a superior sequencer, deep audio editor, multitrack recorder, multiple effects layers/instances and contains a programmable synth engine...the 404 is a just a little box of creative fun but feels more old school with all tactical controls and no touch screen. With Akai there are no limits, whereas the 404 limits you to be more creative with less - so it more accurately simulates the feel of traditional old school aesthetics and principalities of beat production. It's beautifully updated but still feels like the starving producer's basement analog tool. The The MCP X/Live/One are luxury samplers. This is a HUGE win for Roland.
I really appreciate people such as yourself that contribute to the comments 🙏🏻
There are definitely limits on the Akai (like only 8 audio tracks for example) but certainly a lot less than the SP.
I thought you would say a huge win for Akai.
@@dennishunter5552 yeah wth
MPC One is a DAW in the box and I'm trying to get out from there🤔
FUN to watch bro, I appreciate it!
Thanks Johny! Always appreciate you stopping by!
Great review. I own both machines and I love it! Having the best of both worlds in my studio is paramount.
Absolutely! Thanks for watching
Fantastic review and comparison. Really helped me out!!!
Glad to help- cheers.
Another good one .. thanks for the tips .. insights .. sharing your experience and expertise ..
Thanks as always for watching! ❤️
I appreciate this video brother! All the best 🤙
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Awesome video man you really went in depth with the comparison. Those drums too are top notch ! I just wish you would’ve talked more about your custom pads lol. That makes a world of difference to the mpc one experience.
The red pads are from MPC stuff and they’re pretty much the exact same size + feel as the original pads
I own the mpc one and it has been a great and challenging learning curve with going from a traditional DAW like logic or ableton to a standalone and software unit like the mpc I love all that it can do and is capable of doing I have a lot to grow with it . And that's why I love the mpc you grow to get your own style out of it . I want the sp 404 to have the versatility and convenience of it . I loved this comparison.
Thanks for watching Zyair!
I agree with you there- and that's just an overall thing to consider with the MPC- the learning curve! The MK2 is also pretty complex but not quite the MPC.
@@LiamKillen exactly. Thank you so the more you find more shortcuts and ways to get around. They both compliment each other well because where one lacks the other shines .
Maybe I just understand things more quickly, but I made my first beat and first complete song on my MPC One, the very first day I got it. The issue is more in how some things in the user interface just do not make sense or lack consistency. This, unfortunately, includes loading up samples / assigning samples to pads etc. Once you understand how to activate a plug-in for the synth expansions and load up a drumkit, it'll be extremely easy. The harder part is dealing with all the quirks of how some stuff just does not make much sense in terms of an intuitive user interface. I wish Akai would have sat down and discard a bunch of the 'old MPC' work flow and come up with something better. Having said that, the MPC One _can_ do pretty much anything you throw at it or want it to do.
@@PHeMoX I agree after having it for a good 6 months I can load up and start a beat instantly. It was tough getting use to in the beginning having never used a hardware as powerful as an mpc system but I'm loving what it can do and I've put my time in . Still learning . Because it takes a while just to get a good song going and mixed and everything
Ease of use is the most important thing. With the mk2. Audio interface. Capabilities. Battery. , usb-c. Song mode . Small form factor. I’ll use the mk2 more than my mpc one I predict.
Yeah MPC is very complex but it's not for everyone.
Good Stuff bredren 👍🏾
Thanks for sharing
Big up! Always a pleasure.
Awesome video to me because I’ve been on the fence about what to get
I hope this informed your decision! Thanks for watching.
I have the og Live and I love it. With the new 404 out, I guarantee that’s gonna put fire under Akai’s feet to stay competitive.
That being said, the newest MPC update bringing class compliant audio interfaces into your workflow is a game changer.
Yeah the MPC is still way ahead as an overall instrument- no question there.
You still can’t record MPC audio over USB, though. The 404 can act as an interface.
The MPC One looks fantastic and I love my Maschine Mk3, but I really really want an SP-404. Just looks like a super cool toy. Resampling stuff in there and using its effects looks very fun and interesting too.
It is great! MPC One is much more capable though- except for FX
@@LiamKillen I can see that for sure. I just feel as if my Maschine covers a lot of the use cases where I would want an MPC One over a 404 and the more compact form factor of Roland's device just seems neat. Being able to take it out in my backpack to the park or even into the backyard or wherever and just be creative with some samples seems fun. Of the three I've only used Maschine so I can't comment as well as you on the relative merits of each. Thank you for the great video! :)
@@LiamKillen Except for FX??
Good review of Distrokid. I’d love a video covering using Distrokid and what the process is like.
I actually made a video about that a couple years ago! Here it is czcams.com/video/OGrT-jA-XPo/video.html
Liam you are a true character... 👍 You're my new mentor that's for sure. Can't wait to get my MKII in. Love the way you clearly explained everything that you did in this video. Tip my hat off to you!
Wow that's great to hear! I really appreciate you watching! 🎩
I’m getting my SP404 MK2 today. Great video. I was second guessing my purchase but maybe the software updates will help.
There will be lots I bet.
@@LiamKillen I returned it already. I don’t like the workflow.
@@bjamminsincebirth3494 why didn't you like it ?
@@shark6350 So I’m not use to hitting resample to record. That’s was weird. It was crazy menu diving and I don’t wanna work harder to get an idea out. I do like the velocity sensitive pads, 303 effect, super filter and the look. Another thing I hated is the chopping wasn’t good but I come from IPad Koala Sampler, BeatMaker 3. The MPC is probably closer to the workflow I would like. I like super intuitive workflows. Press record press play and bam. Also the fact that you can’t plug-in and download latest firmware. You have to get a sd card and stick it into the computer then download firmware put it back in the
SP hold shift click yes the power off then on again. 🤔 wowwwwww. 2 hours later I go to record and it doesn’t sound better than the iPad. I was hoping the effects were better and they were alright. For SP heads it’s probably the best thing ever. For newbies prepare to give all your time to learning. I ain’t got time for that much menu diving. Oh top of all that…there is no true way to stem the tracks out properly. Kicks, Snares, Hats, Keys, Samples, etc. This is 2021 going into 2022. Why?
@@bjamminsincebirth3494 interesting. This is my first sp and I'm loving it rn.
Thanks for the work. I will say, by way of critique, and as someone well versed w/ the Live / X / One ecosphere, that your familiarity with the One’s GUI / workflow has colored your perspective on its intuitiveness. It’s really kind of arcane in many of Akai’s design choices. Having also come from a more destructive OP-1 / Koala world (Not to mention Portastudios.. way back!), I see the MK2 as a more intuitive performance-based recording tool. Hunting down a stray feedback loop that’s bleeding into the next sequence, among 25 programs (or god forbid an individual pad effect nestled inside one) is something I’ll be glad to put down, from the MPC world. 👑
For me: MPC = producing // MK2 = FX (for the most part).
Awesome video man ! Where and how did you do that custom work on your mpc one tho?
Thanks! And style flip!
i think this is a really solid video. i dont even have either of these machines, just a maschine mikro mk2 thats collecting dust, but enjoyed the comparison regardless!
Thanks for watching kevin! What do you think of the maschine pads?
Yo, good vid Liam. Even though I've got both devices I still learned a few things. On another note are those the Sennheiser HD 25 headphones you're using??? I was just researching them the other day. I need a new pair of headphones as the Audio-technica M40x that I use clamp down too hard and give me a headache. How are your headphones in terms of comfort? Also do they sit on the ear instead of over? That would be my preference. Any input you have is appreciated.
They are actually the Teenage Engineering M-1's! They sound pretty good but I wouldn't say studio quality. I'm considering doing a review on them if there's enough interest 🤔
Your videos rock thank you 💗
Thanks so much for watching!
This is a good compare video! thanks a lot :) quick question, what type of headphones are you wearing in the video? :)
Those are Teenage Engineering M1s! ALMOST studio quality headphones but not quite.
Great video and I agree with you! If you are new to the MPC world, it understandly can take some time and commitment to learn but when you do, boy you will be chopping and slicing your way to some really great sounds. The Roland is fantastic for someone who doesn't want to commit to the learning curve or have the MPC as their centre piece. Both are really great units.
Exactly! Thank you for watching 😊
I’ve had my MPC one for a year and a half so I can say as soon as you have your head wrapped around it and you have good workflow. It’s a wrap. But the SP looks so interesting
Just got mine and 100% need to update right away. Only complaint they missed in the update making chromatic polyphonic.
Duuuude 🤘🤘
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I was surprised at how delightfuly simple the roland 404 mk2 was, after using the mpc one for so long, and having never used an sp404 of any model, I was not sure what I was in for, I do wish there was just one nice lithium battery since aa's will last you like 3 hours on the roland. I also noticed like you said the 404 does not like it when you hit multiple pads at the same time, all in all though it shines at its small footprint and amazing effects
Yeah for the price it’s highly considerable in comparison to the one
It would be great to have another comparison between the MPC One and the MC707 :) great job with this one
That is def something to consider! Thank you!
I def have some homework to do there though before putting something valuable out.
I’m giving a longing look to the SP-404. With the upgrades, especially the Screen, it will be a perfect addition to my live sets.
Neither the SP404 mk2 nor the RC505 mk2 LoopStation are available to us regular folks until after February 2022. No Christmas for me.
Yeah it's nuts right now. Hang tight!
Awesome video man. I’m using the SP404 with a Maschine+ as kind of a master fx unit with the ability to play samples or interlude tracks I make while I load up the next project in Maschine. You really need to try playing on a Maschine controller, the pads are 🔥
I heard!!
That color combo is nice. 👍🏿😎
Thanks Bairah!
The things that make the MPC the winner IMO is it does everything you throw at it. The SP404 on the other hand does key things well and is laser focused on doing those thing great. I see my myself getting the ideas started in the SP and moving to the MPC for plugins and some polishing. Then back to the SP for live performance. This is what I told myself to justify the purchase, so we will see when arrives.
You've summed it up- that seems to be the general consensus between these two.
Same brutha! Just ordered mine last week. Good luck!
Good luck. It ain't ever coming.
I know what you mean sgkountz and I can agree, however the SP-404 mk2 does allow for full beat / full song production. It's not that much more limited in a true sense, even when obviously it lacks the whole touch screen DAW vibe and user interface to go along with it. It's more old school in that sense. I do think the MPC One / Live / X can take the audio quality to a higher level more easily, just through the many FX you get access to (not just side chained compression). But even in this video, I was actually fairly impressed with the overall sound quality.
mpc doesnt have amp sims for guitar which SP has.
That yellow killin em 🔥
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dude love and thank you so much for the Whole Video, but mainly for the Mute Group Part...
Im a beginner at the MPC One and tried for Weeks to let my Samples "slide" into another. what Stupidity of myself
Glad to help and appreciate you watching :-)
Hiii Liam 😊 hope all is well.
I picked the 404mkii. Mainly because of the size and price. Other wise if I had the space and money I’d get the Mpc. Both machines are pretty legendary 🤩 awesome video!
Thank you ! :-) You won't be disappointed with the 404 mk2
Looks like I bought the MPC ONE at a good time, and I was considering the 404 instead, but it wasn't available for 3 months. Having both must be great as you could route an output (using a usb interface to give you more ins/outs) to the 404 to take advantage of those cool effects. I'm a total noob with samplers and grooveboxes so it is proving to be a challenge , but having fun.
Keep on exploring my friend! Thank you for watching :-)
Why did they go up in price lol?
Nice Video! What are your headphones called that you are yousing? they look realy nice.
Those are the M1s! I'll be doing a video on those in the near future actually- I got something fun to show y'all.
I dunno if it’s on purpose but the subtle humor in your vids is top tier.
In terms of the video, I’m looking to get my first sampler. The Akai sounds great cause it’ll have stem support the only problem I have with it is that it’s not as portable as the Roland and the live 2 is just too expensive plus I feel they’re gonna upgrade the live 2 any day now with a new + model or if we’re lucky, a 3rd version!
Haha thanks for watching :-)
You're in good hands with Akai!
AKAI master of all beat machines. No contest here.
Overall- yyyyup
Yo man, on the velocity thing on the 404 you play 2 fingers on a pad, and when you do the house thing you do 1 finger per pad. So my question is can you edit the velocity curve and is there a full level mode on the 404?
I found a way around the overly sensitive pads unfortunately
@@LiamKillen I was saying you press harder with 2 fingers on 1 pad and that same velocity divided by 2 fingers on 2 pads is why it's quiet on your house beat, which leads me to believe the SP404 pads are less sensitive?
MPC one is the best production hardware I’ve ever worked with and feel so blessed to have been able to get one. Oh and maschine pads are definitely not bad but the MPC feels so much more idk comfortable IMO
It's a really strong tool! Thanks for watching :-)
@@LiamKillen for sure good luck on your upcoming channel boul
My 404 finally came a couple weeks ago. Loving how easy it is to input my synths and guitar into it! MPC looks great but I already have a Maschine mkII.
Yeah you’re good to go then
You can drag and drop samples onto the pads in the mpc either by a) plugging it in via USB in controller mode and using the software (as you did with the SP-404) to choose from drives on your pc or the SD card in the mpc, or b) going into the sample assign tab after pressing the 'browse' button in standalone mode and dragging and dropping them onto the pads with the touchscreen (you need to load the samples first this way, but once you get into it it's super quick, and you can load all samples from a folder using the shift key when browsing). I'm reasonably sure that you can swap pads much quicker with either of these methods too.
MPC DAW/software is crazy deep for what is essentially free software, but as you've alluded to in the video, you'd need to be using it as your main DAW to get the most out of it as it isn't immediately intuitive, and the rewards in terms of workflow probably come further up the learning curve than with other software.
Thanks for all the quality content! Also those skins are 🔥
Thank you for this input! ❤️
Mpc beats is hard to use out of all daws available and I have used almost all I can’t make a beat from scratch without a template.
Despite the MPC being the obvious choice for those wanting a complete package, I still feel like the MKII offers something more unique in some ways, in terms of it not just being 'a daw in different casing'. 99% of people would be better off using a laptop than an MPC in terms of functionality but there's not much to rival the MKII as a small form factor device for live use/DJing etc - laptop with a controller is much clunkier than the MKII.
Hey you’re right there man- I see where you’re coming from.
This has to be one of the best videos demonstrating music equipment. Pros, cons, how to use with great examples. I wouldn’t know which to get because you can edit with software. But if he would have given an opinion on live performance, well...
Awesome! Glad that it's helping you out! :-)
@@LiamKillen haha Nice reply.
MPC with fat pads all the way to go along my fat fingers! What are your pads settings (velocity, sxensitivity) to do finger drumming? I couldn't manage to find the sweet spot yet, and sometime I get double triggers on these pads. I don't reme,ber to have that much trouble to find the right settings on my maschine mk3. Cheers!
I haven't had any issues with those so i've kept them at default! What I will say is that there's no perfect setting you kind of have to find that middle ground with your technique vs the pads. Comes with practice!
What’s that little speaker you’re plugged into? Looks and sounds great
That's the OB-4. Here's some more info incase you're interested: czcams.com/video/VQliIJoM8zE/video.html
Great video. But where did you get those drums?
I can’t remember! Lol- I’ve got some packs though if you’re interested: samples.liamkillen.com/
Those headset looks quite cool. Any clue what are those? nice video, can't wait to get my SP :)
That's the Teenage Engineering M1s! I'll be doing a review on those in the near future.
Is the sequencing on the mk2 similar to say a SP505? I enjoyed that simple sampler. I had an mpc2500 too so I appreciate that sequencer. And the pads are just soo comfy. I want a mk2 for what it is and the price. But they are hard to get. Thinking I’ll wait or just go for an mpc one.
I don’t know how the 505 sequences. The MPC One is a good choice though - much more capable than the mk2
MPC display looks so much better here but my friend used his sp404mkll in conjunction with his iPad via the app Roland made for it . HUGE difference . Otherwise , great video and thanks for doing this .
Oh really! Interesting- thx for this!
Link mode off is a killer on the MPC
“meaning playing past slices” This is video is cool from your perspective but as a seasoned MPC user since the 60 when you know the MPC you fly through things quickly. You definitely got it down💪🏿 ALSO, all the current MPC’s sample slice the full 127 midi implementation where as the 404 only slices to 16 but it’s a workaround. I’m definitely getting a 404
Thanks you for watching CX!
I really like the skin on your MPC One! Where did you find it?
MPC Stiuff!
Please help me out . I just wanna know is the Mic/Line input Jack in front of the SP404 , a STEREO or MONO signal? Thanks
I believe it’s stereo
@@LiamKillen oh wow thanks 😊 🙏
this is a great comparison, thank you!
i have the one and was considering selling it to get the mk2. basically i have a ton of other gear that i want to sample and chop performances from so i think the mk2 would be better for this. however the question no one can seem to answer:
can the mk2 do slides in chromatic mode?!
Thank you for watching!
To my knowledge I don't think that it can!
how did you get the paint job done? looks dope. steelers fan here btw
MPC has an overlay from MPC stuff and SP-404 overlay is from Roland.
i was sold on the SP404 until you mentioned we cant sidechain to the kick. That is 100% necessary for the music i make! is there any chance an update to the software could fix this in the future?
You can actually side chain to the kick…sort of- here’s a workaround: czcams.com/video/PkGkF8ZgbLs/video.html
@@LiamKillen thank you!!
Hi Liam. Are you still losing the kick ( 4:45 ) when making 4/4 beats? OS update fix this?
It’s still not as strong as the MPC one
@@LiamKillen true that. I had an MPC One and sold it, I’m a DAW guy like you. Ive had the mk2 on order since October and running out of patience lol.
Intresting how they sounded totally different after loading the same samples. The MPC sounded mor hi-fidelity / a bit more snappy compared to the somewhat duller SP404 mk2. Is this because of the audio convertors or may there be other reasons? Was the sample rate / bit depth the same on both machines? Thanks
Hmm interesting take!
I have no idea what the reason for this could be.
When I was a kid I saved up hard for a Yamaha SU700 and despite initially finding the workflow a bit tricky I learned to love it. I had to sell it when I went to college and now I’m nostalgic for it but picking up an old SU700 seems a bit crazy considering how far the tech has come. Which of these two would you say is the closest to the SU700 in terms of workflow and capabilities?
I’m not familiar with the SU700 but the MPC One is the far more capable of these 2
Crazy how I own a su700 I got not to long ago and just got my mk2 2 days ago but su700 is more similar to ableton with its loop pads right
I would say that 8bit sound in the su700 is good for running samples in
I think the MPC One or Live is an easier workflow for anyone who is new to these two machines. The SP has perks but I think it’s best feature is the effects. I with Roland would have focus more on the sequencer which is one of the weak points. Although the MPC sequencer isn’t great at all. I think all in all I would go MPC or get an IPad and Launchpad Pro Mk3.
I absolutely agree there- I think that the FX are the most unique part of the instrument and what really makes it worth it.
I’ve bought Sp404sx and a Mpc 5000 in 2010 three years later mpc literally exploded and I was left with the sp. Since then it had water, double cream, and all kind of food spilled on it by my kids , took it apart cleaned it and it’s still working. Mpcs are delicate equipment and there is a lot of parts that can and are breaking.in my opinion the variety of use of mpc is limited. Sp can be used outdoors as a field recorder , I often use mine as multi track recorder.
Yeah absolutely! I love the way the SP pre amps sound too!
I have the following MPC ONE,LIVE,60,60II,1000,500,REN,STUDIO BLACK,ELEMENT,2000,2000XL plus SP404 mk2, ASR 10, Emu Sp 1200,MC 909, all are unique in their own way but I must say the sound quality ,the effects that can be combined per pad in the Sp 404 mk2 and then resampled with the pitch adjusted bring a Whole other level I have owned this unit for 2 months and found a lot of tip & tricks on ver 3.0
Oh you're stacked my guy
1. If you already have the SP 404 MK2: buying the MPC One still makes sense because of the improved (performance) capabilities
2. If you already have the MPC One: buying an SP 404 MK2 makes less sense because then it basically becomes a cool fx module at best that you hook up to your MPC
3. If you have neither of them, go for the beast that pretty much has the best of both worlds: The MPC Live 2. Suddenly you realize that having good speakers on your groovebox is something you've always wanted and you will find yourself using this around your house everywhere.
I like the analysis! Although I think the MK2 is worth it for the FX alone!
I really disagree the MPC Live 2 has the 'best of both worlds'. It's just as limited as the MPC One in terms of realtime live FX mangling on whatever you have going on on your MPC. It's why the SP-404 mk2 or really any SP-404/SP-303 FX box is such a nice companion. Personally, I think the SP-404mk2 is a bit pricey at the moment, but at the same time it is stand-alone and fully functional as it's own complete sequencer / sampler too. Anyway, my point being, in no way is getting the MPC Live 2, the same as getting an MPC One and the SP-404mk2. Not remotely close. The MPC One + SP-404mk2 combo is way more worth it than just the Live 2.
@@PHeMoX Mobility and some cool FX are really the only things that the SP 404 MK2 has to offer over the MPC One. But that mobility becomes meaningless as you hook it up to the MPC One because of its superior pad performance and other capabilities.
With the MPC Live 2, you keep the mobility and gain even better pad performance and more capabilities (I/O's, wireless, etc.). Sure, you miss out on some cool FX (for now) but the MPC is no slouch in that regard and new FX literally get added all the time. The SP 404 MK2 with its smaller form factor and screen, is by design more limited in how much it can expand its capabilities with firmware updates and can never hope to do the stuff an MPC can do. And used in conjunction with an MPC One it's really nothing more than an expensive FX module so overall, you're better off spending less money on a single device like the MPC Live 2 instead.
I was wondering how file transferring would work between the new 404 and the MPC via the USB cable. Can you drop files onto the 404 via the MPC?
No those two are not compatible via software you'd have to drop on your comp and then drop[ again on either machine.
@@LiamKillen dang. Thanks for confirming this. I was hearing that you can send files go the octatrack from an MPC so I was hoping the SP would be the same.
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what camera and video editing software do you use ?
Canon r6 and DaVinci resolve
I use the MPC One as my DAW. There's no latency, you can add HUNDREDS of audio clips, using MPC's Clip Programs, which work like Ableton Live's Session Mode. Plus, the MPC has mastering effects, synth bass and lead instruments, drum kits galore and on and on and on. It's awesome! And while the SP-404 is cool and portable, the MPC One is a reliable, professional music making work-station. Get one.
I agree with everything you just said there.
I got myself the sp404sx as a fx processor for my MPC some time ago. I also had the modbapmodular per4mer module by that time. Per4mer appeared to be way better. So I sold my old classic sp404sx
oh really...interesting. I think you'd like the per4mer better than the MK2 as well (for FX). While there are some new FX the general "vibe" of them is very 404.
That being said if you want to deep dive, here's a video going through all of the MK2 FX extensively! czcams.com/video/Tl9kSiqOQLI/video.html
It's so ahead of it's time we can't even have it lol 😂
It's overwhelming how quickly updates come now. Especially for someone in my position!
@@LiamKillen with updates that's a good thing I was referring to the units availability it's like the ps5 of the beat making community
@@boombyeah hahahaja, behringer synths were the PS5 of audio gear for a while, and it's too early for the SP-404 MkII to be the same
Ah yes true
@@boombyeah yep. I went to check for one… preorder so you can get one in September 2022.
Pls someone answer me. Can u actually make a song with the sp, can u actually sequence a 4 minute song and then export it. Should it be your studios center/brain of producing. Cuz i wanna make music without a computer and im think between the sp and mpc
Gonna go with no on that one- MPC is b more of what you’re describing
Q: "Pad mute" on the MPC - does 404 have it? (not "mute groups", but temporarily silencing certain pads, to create breakdowns, outros, etc?)
I haven't needed to try that yet but i'm sure there's a way. Not sure you can sequence pad mutes though- you might have to do that manually.
@@LiamKillen Could it really be a missing feature? I've looked at the manual. I've asked several people, and nobody has answered yes. (It just seems wasteful to have to make multiple versions of every pattern just to mute sounds in them)
I think they are both great. 🤘
Me too!
Awesome video
I appreciate you watching!
@@LiamKillen your welcome
Wuss good homie trying to figure out how to change midi channels on the sp404mkii so I can sequence from the ASR 10?
Midi is something I haven't explored yet with the SP-404.
MPC live I’ve had and MPC One SO CLUNKY the user experience is everything and MPC does not have that, SP404MK2 on other hand wow , game changer one of my best investments in last two decades in music equipment!
Interesting! You're one of the first that just full on prefers the MK2 over the MPC!
Did I miss a segment on launching scenes? Im used to using a laptop and launching pre saved scenes live. For verse chorus bridge etc..
Didn’t touch on this in this video!
5:07 That's maybe because the rubber (latex) pads interact on each other. The SP404 has probably a to tight or to lose build frame where the rubber "pulls up" the pad nr13 when the second finger strokes pads nr14. So because of pressure on the 14th pads make you have less sensitivity on pad 13 and maybe around others too.
It sems that all of the pads have that same sort of sensitivity.
One thing you didn’t mention was the range of instruments on the MPC. Dose the MK2 have anything like that?
Nope! It’s just a sampler
...not that I could do as good anytime soon, but.. kinda nice to know as an audio / video enthusiast
Glad to help 🍻
Liam, I'm working on my beat tape and for that I had to go back to my MPC DAW beats. So far it's been a slog and i can't trust it. It doesn't export samples sometimes. Sometimes doesn't load the Plugins etc etc. Probably it's just my bad PC,but still...
Hmmm well that's annoying.
Great videos
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If you go into sample edit on mpc (coming from the Force) you should be able to switch any pad to any sample used in the drum program.
Oh! Thank you for mentioning this i'll try and remember for next time...so many lil ins and outs that i'm still learning!
@@LiamKillen did you try it?
yooo someone might’ve posted this already but saw you were turning off the gate for each individual pad…pretty sure you can turn gate off/on the entire bank by pressing shift + gate-hope this saves some time!
You can also shift the volume of an entire bank by doing shift + bank
🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Thank you!!!!!
is there a way to use the two outs of the 404 as separate
like....
can i have bass drum go output 1
everything else out output 2
im a eurorack musician, and so i could easily have allllll the effects i want on melodies and whatnot, plus I literally made a ducker/sidechain guitar pedal with Modular for the masses, so i could custom sidechain
I’m not sure that’s possible
Thanks for the video G I own a mpc studio black and “wanted” to get the mpc one but after some reviews both the studio black mpc and the mpc one can basically do the same things in the Mpc daw the biggest difference is being able to use the mpc one in stand alone mode without a computer which is cool and come in handy but I don’t really mind so basically I wanted it but don’t really need it I’m going to go with the sp404 mk2 and I love how you can use the mpc together with the sp404 and create something dope I love em both no bias mpc and sp404 (all models 😊)
Thx for this addition and for watching :-)
@@LiamKillen no problem G 🤝
I have neither and will likely never get either (maybe the mkII?!?!) but still enjoyed watching and learning about these supremely popular pieces of music tech! K imma go order the mkII now. Jk… 👀… lol
Ayoooo there he is. Thanks so much for watching! 🤜🤛
Great video. I’m be currently got an MPC Live II, and heavily considering switching to an SP-404. Have been an OG 404 owner before, and mostly what I miss from that was the fun and immediacy. The MPC can do so much, but I have to confess, I’ve never enjoyed my time using it. To me, it just isn’t that fun to use. (I’m sure I’d feel differently if I learned it inside and out). I’ve also got a Syntakt/Digitone, and I think sequencing the 404 with the Elektron boxes might be the setup I’m currently looking for.
A lot of people are making the same consideration!!
what's your headphone's brand? Looks cool. I would like one
Teenage Engineering M1
Did you adjust the pad sensitivity at all?
I've left the MPC pad setting at default it works great for me
What kind of Headphones are those??? The look awesome and really sleek.
Those are Teenage Engineering M1s! I love the look too and will be doing a review on them in the near future.
Sweeet comparison, thanks ! I picked a cheap Maschine Studio and it's been a lot of fun to use alongside the boss rc202 looper. One day perhaps pick up one of these too 🤌
Thank you for watching Heyman!
Is there any way to emulate the effects of the sp 404 on the MPC like the dj effects loop? Now that the sp 404 mk2 has a screen and the bomb effects I don’t see a reason to get an MPC.
Unfortunately not- although the MPC One has some pretty dope FX on its own- not quite the same as the 404 IMO.
@@LiamKillen yeah I just can’t get past the flavor the sp 404 adds. Guess I’ll stick it out and wait for my mk 2 to get here lol. Thanks, keep up the great work!
Damn it Liam, this video only makes me want to get both now. My checking account is cursing you now. 😂😂😂😂😂
😂 Perfect Circuit (or whoever you buy from) is like 😈
Liam your MPC pads are aftermarket ones right?
I’m asking you this because I’ve got a MPC-X (bought brand new, 2 years ago) and I swear these MPC pads drive me crazy… In a bad way…
I got them from MPC stuff- they’re called fat pads
@@LiamKillen oh yes I see… Thanks a lot mate !!
Hi i have a question can i transfer sound files from pc with windows 7 via usb to 404 mk2?
you'd have to verify to see if the software is compatible with windows 7- if yes- then yes you can do it.
which one is more suitable for DJs to use it as live sampler/looper in improvisation performance?
Hmmm I would lean towards the 404 for that
you can edit a mute group in the 404 by holding copy while in the pitch/speed menu
Thank you for this info! :-)
For me, the SP-404MKII is the instrument of choice. Anything with a big screen is a turn off to me since I sit in front of a screen all day writing software. The last thing I want to do is sit in front of a screen when making music. For that reason, I've had an OP-1, an OP-Z and now have a Deluge, a Verselab MV-1, a Circuit Rhythm and an SP-404MKII.
The immediacy of the SP-404MKII is what makes it really shine. Here's my latest song made on it: czcams.com/video/IRPWNC_6KNo/video.html
Yeah I totally get that- MPC screen is a big ol’ thang.
I don't mind screens, but touchscreen? Fahget about it. No way. Might as well have a mouse at that point. Touchscreens are too awkward. If I got a new MPC I would get the X because there are plenty of knobs, faders, and buttons. I have an MPC2500 and aside from the effects and portability, it does everything I need it to. I may get the 404 mkII and use them together.
This is a big factor for me for the same reason. I'm dying to get away from screens after working on one all day. So, the SP-404MKII is attractive for that reason. The MPC ONE is super cool though for those without those considerations. Plus, as @KingShaman said, the SP does have that traditional old school aesthetic.
Compared to mv1 how's the immediacy of the sp mk2?how it works with mv1?I too have mv1.
@@ghanezu the SP-404MKII is much more immediate because it's not a synth. It trekked in your putting samples onto the SD card or sampling from other sources. The MV-1 is very deep by comparison.
Where did you get the NEON skins with logos on them ?
that's from MPC Stuff-
@@LiamKillen can’t find it. Was it a special order?