'The Bachelor': Are Ashley I. & Kristina Schulman Team Caelynn Or Team Katie? | Access
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- On this episode of "The Bachelor: The Morning After," Ashley Iaconetti and Kristina Schulman talk about last night's episode of "The Bachelor: The Women Tell All." What do they think of Caelynn vs Katie?!
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'The Bachelor': Are Ashley I. & Kristina Schulman Team Caelynn Or Team Katie?
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Caelynn didn't remember the bus convo, then remembered it so well she swore they were miked. Then she defends herself to Colton saying "she thought Tayshia was her friend" after saying to Cassie "Tayshia doesn't even know us" then rolls her eyes when Katie says she used to be close to Cassie and Caelynn. Through the fake crying and public denials, the real Caelynn shines through time and again. Ashley and Kristina really are just saying it how it is.
Preach! 👏🏼👏🏼
truth!
Al Wa that's the part you're paying attention to? Lol
Honestly all I wanted to say to Jane was “ WERE YOU THERE THOUGH?”
Dude sameeee
Hannah B was careful cause she knows that she’s the next bachelorette
#teamkatie Who the heck is Jane? Caelynn is a great actress. Crazy Courtney.
@@lauracabrera87 I don't know. I don't want to judge her and assume her feelings, but it's so weird that she would dm Dean if she's still in love with Colton. She's a tricky person, and I have to agree with Hannah B, can't trust her.
Brooke's Mommy can people not try and move on? Her and Colton broke up does that mean she has to isolate herself? I’m sure we all have experienced moving on , or the attempt to move on, while still holding onto feelings for someone else. She’s human. They are just looking for more and more petty reasons to attack her for reasons I can’t comprehend.
Jane is that crazy obsessed with Caelynn person
@@CrazyHaley98 Who said Caelynn can't move on?
Team Katie all day.
Hannah B for bachelorette, period.
No one in the comments or on ANY recap show asks “why the heck did Cassie keep accepting his roses if she’s not interested in the least?”
She won’t even date him for a day. She’s that sure that she must leave immediately.
Why defend herself when Cassie was called out as “not ready” and “not interested”? Why did she cry and yell “not true”?
She’s clearly not interested in Colton. It was the most awkward dumping I’ve ever seen on the Bachelor. Worse than when Frank dumped Ali.
SHE SLID INTO DEAN'S DMs 😂😂😂
She was there for the attention
Not cool to hate on someone you barely know! You don’t know what exactly happened. I think they have to tone it down and express their feelings more nicely. They’re talking about real people and real emotions! It doesn’t matter if they’re not on Caelynn’s team but it’s not really mature either to talk like that!
I don't think anyone is jealous of Demi, to me what she portrays isn't true confidence... I would totally be one of the girls sitting back, annoyed that she can be rude/obnoxious, then people praise her for it. It's not jealousy, it's, "Are you kidding me?" I hate it when shitty people are praised for being shitty, and encouraged to keep doing it.
Thank you! I don't think anyone is jealous of Demi. Yes she is confident and all respect to her for that but she is quite rude and obnoxious and could go about things in a more calm and respectful demeanor.
I agree.. Demi is not confident.. that's insecurity. I can't believe everyone loves demi.. drama queen.
Carebear she’s cocky and they hate it! She has a confidence that no one else has . Don’t be hatin!
Carebear I agree she’s so rude and I think she has low self-esteem
V Martin NO she’s rude and a bully and a mean girl
We get it they don’t like Caelynn
I feel like she comes off as really fake. I hope she's on paradise...there we can really see who she is.
I don't get it, yeah there was moment where she looks shady, but damn, people are like saying she is like some kind of mastermind manipulator.
@Mariam Toure - West Credit SS (2582) actually I grow to like Caelynn a bit, yeah I feel like that setting would be good for her. I don't think she is as fake as what people say she is, of course she has the pageant signs, but like I don't think she is as bad as what people say she is. People are blowing it out of proportion.
@Mariam Toure - West Credit SS (2582) I also feel like people have this conspiracy mindset going, like thinking she is like evil etc. Personally I think she did like Colton. And like she did have feelings for her. By this point she and Cassie are basically like outcast being attacked and cornered.
Ikr
This is getting ridiculous
I don’t get the love for Demi. She’s a bully yet she’s being praised
Totally agree!!!!!
Me too totally agree. Onyeka & Courtney too. I couldn't believe how these girls acted. 😱. The only girls that came out authentic and true to me atleast were Elyse, Katie and Sydney.
she's so annoying i roll my eyes a lot watching her the fact that everyone loves her so much but hates onyeka is mind blowing
@@tania9809 Demi, Courtney & Onyeka are all in the same category rude, obnoxious and bullies. They need alot of growing up to do. I'm also pretty sure productions had alot to do with egging them on w/ their behavior for drama effects & ratings.🤢💲
@@eeg122 yes its so annoying they are all childish Im tired of them glorifying stupid behavior every season girls come her trying to be rude on purpose for attention and the public praises them
Colton will break up with both girls. Run after Cassie and win her back. I think this show makes their situation a lot worse/negative than it is. Kindof like Ashley/Jared. Everyone told her he wanted nothing to do w her. Even he told her that to her face. But once they were in the real world became friends, they saw each other for who they are. The pressure of engagement after barely knowing someone is ridiculous. The stats on this show prove that. Yet this girl whose realizing how dumb it is, is getting bashed. Everything will work out in the end. Whether they are meant to be together or this experience brings the one they are meant to be with in their lives.
in the midst of all the screaming i did NOT hear katie say caelynn slid into dean’s dms 😦 yoooo..... lol
It was there lol barely audible but there
Dean who? Dean from Rachel's season?
Everythingwillbeok EWBOK yes!
Kristina: I thought the SAME thing about Cassies reaction!
Katie is the only one who heard the conversation on the bus PERIOD. The others are simply taking sides and believing who they want to believe.
I think the conversation between cassie and caelyn was just misinterpreted...these girls just want full on drama
This completely reminds me of the situation on Chris Soules’ season with Britt. Everyone went on and on about how fake Britt was, how she just wanted to be an influencer or the bachelorette, and how she wasn’t really interested in Chris and how Kaitlin was the one who was totally there for the right reasons. Yet, after the bachelorette Britt never did anything bachelor related again, never sold anything on Instagram, just volunteered for her Christian charity and quietly got married while Kaitlin is the TOTAL OPPOSITE. Nothing against Kaitlin but the point of the story is Caelynn may be fake as hell and she may not be but at the end of the day they don’t know her and they don’t know her true motivations and it’s pretty sickening watching Ashley I tear her down at every opportunity, especially considering all the shady ass mean girl shit she used to say about everyone. So of course they like Demi, she’s right up their alley.
Great point!
Artrese Giles Britt also had a ton of mental health problems. She struggled with bulimia and addiction, likely wanted to stay out of the spotlight. But you do make a good point!
I don't see why Britt would want to continue doing anything with Bachelor Nation or franchise. The girls were not nice to her. I don't understand the hate. As of now, I don't have anything against Caelynn.
The truth is we are all fake at times.It doesn’t make you a bad person. I smile when I run into someone I am not necessarily fond of and make small talk with them . How about the let’s get together sometime to end a conversation but it’s not something you follow through on. Cailyne and Hannah both want to be bachelorette so both were a little fake at Women tell all.Hannah with her smiles and careful answers. Cailyne maybe getting herself upset with tears. Who knows but is it really that bad people.Be honest with yourself we all are real but sometimes fake that is everyone’s true self.
Jill G. You’re not wrong. Ashley has bashed this girl in 5 different interviews and it’s just starting to get on my nerves
7:40 Caelynn felt she was going to get the final rose but didn't want to lose her best friend in the house, so she told her bestie if that happens, that she hopes Cassie becomes bachelorette.
I had wanted Kristina to be bachelorette, but after watching this interview, glad she likely won't be.
Not to be rude, but you say you are being "open minded" and that Jane has "no idea" what happened and shouldn't have an opinion because of that. So - what makes YOU able to be so sure that Caelynn and Cassie are the so called bad guys? You know just as much as Jane knows... At this point, I think you are being so closed minded that even if the conversation came out and the evidence was in favor of Caelynn, you would still bash her!
Yes!! Preach
I actually think this attacking Caelynn is ridiculous. Everything is being taken so out of context. When she has been through what she has, every relationship is so much more valuable and emotional, including close friendships. It's not like she just told her story and that was that. It affects you and your relationships and emotions every. single. day. You should honestly take time to reflect on what you just said. I am absolutely heartbroken by this video. It was not open-minded.
Haley Marando 😐completely forgot what she went through.
Yeah Ashley I is the biggest Caelynn hater.
Ashley is acting like she hasn’t cried for a guy uhm hello she cried for her fiancé for 3 f*** years ...
Haley Marando I agree. They just don’t like her and they can’t say what’s in her mind or heart when it comes to Colton. Doesn’t matter if it’s 4 months later. Maybe she had moved on as much as she could and had healed some but seeing it replayed mixed up theses hurt feelings again. I liked Caelynn and I don’t care what anyone says. This chick with the black eyebrows rubs me the wrong way!
V Martin they are acting like they actually know her I’m shocked with Ashley she’s acting like she’s never been heartbroken look at her and her fiancé.. 🐸☕️
You spent this entire segment bashing Caelynn… We get it you don’t like her. You all seem to think she’s ingenuine and you kept repeating that so we got it.
Age isn’t the factor with Cassie. She actually handled it maturely if she has real feelings. I think the immature thing to do would be to go along with everything for tv and not care about real emotions.
Ashley I is the biggest Caelynn hater. She was so fake and nice to her when she was interviewing her. Now she is talking so much trash about her.
Indominus Ashley I is sooo fake herself!! She talks crap about so many people and then acts so friendly with them in interviews
lol, is she supposed to be rude to her during interviews? She has to be professional when she's doing her job, but during recaps she's allowed to give her opinion.
Ashley is fake. I am starting not to like her and I am commenting way late. The show is over but I have seen a few of her interviews and once she forms an opinion she goes in and doesn’t change her mind even if she’s wrong.
Now she’s like best friends with Caelynn. Her and Jared hang out with Caelynn and Dean all the time
Caelynn told Cassie to get engaged because they are good friends and she wanted her friend to be happy, even when she is sad. mind. blown.
What I really like about Demi is.. Her hair! Beautiful hair
Where there is smoke there is fire. In my opinion, they were right about everything they said concerning Caelynn. Theres just too much now. Shes sketchy and probably just wanted to be bachelorette. On the other hand, Hannah B seems like a sweetheart and im glad she will be bachelorette.
Where was Elyse at the Women Tell All?
Varaidzo1 she was at a wedding
@@laraelborolsy9711 Oh ok I see :))
I thought of her too
Who cares if Caelynn said get married. I would have done the same thing! People are digging way to deep about the bus talk and her comment. TEAM CAELYNN all they way💗
Al Wa AMEN!! 🙌🏼
She's disposing of the guy she supposedly "loves" 2 seconds after he surprisingly dumps her because she (essentially) wanted to be part of the winning group. If anything it would've made the most sense to want him to end up happy and not tell her friend to go win. Not questioning her feelings but the action itself is very questionable...
Kloves818 I see how you could feel that way, from my point of view from watching the show is that Caelynn and Cassie had the strongest connection out of all the other girls. And I feel like a lot of the girls were really jealous and tried to find any little excuse to make them look bad so they could make themselves look better to win over Colton. I think that Caelynn said “go get married” to Cassie because she just got dumped by Colton and was like okay he obviously has a deeper connection with you and I know you have strong feelings for him so if it’s not me at the end of this than if anything I would want it to be my best friend. That’s all I think it was. I think it was blown out of proportion to make the season more interesting. Just my opinion though 😊
I dont think it is fair to judge on how much a person cry so much. Too much drama here I guess. I think it is just simple if someone felt in love and they got dump they will cry their eyes out.
And I'm not much of a crier so in her position I probably wouldn't cry, and then they would say I wasn't genuine because I didn't shed a tear. you can never win.
@@skater5696 exactly how I feel as well. I feel like the show is supposed to help one finds love but with millions of people watching and being judgemental of how certain people should react or say something or how one should fall in love. Hahaha can never win
@@peacelife I had wanted Kristina to be bachelorette but after watching this, she's almost just as judgmental. So in addition to fence-jumping lessons, I would need lessons on the right amount of crying if I ever go on the show Haha just kidding, I'm never going on the show.
I’m living for this tea!!! ☕️
I felt like my foot was going to cramp up just seeing Ashleys foot flexed like that for so long.
why're they SO against Caelynn? Its so easy for girls to hate on the front runners/prettiest ones and be forgiving of the rest. I know she kinda got caught in a lie but she was caught off-guard and probably denied as a reaction. its normal for the girls to talk about being the bachelorette bc its a possibility. they obviously know only one person is gonna be at the end so im assuming they were talking about the what-ifs in case they lost. also caelynn had amazing moments like when she spoke about her journey and when she ended the beef with Hannah B WHICH BTW HANNAH B STARTED!!!!! why doesnt anyone rmbr how hannah was the one who brought up their drama to begin with. idk i think caelynn is still a pretty genuine girl, just shouldve been smart enough to not say certain things in front of her insecure competitor.
I like Caylin too. I don’t know why some people thinks she fake. I think she is real & I like her. Very strong girl to tell her story on TV.
Hannah B is such a mean girl and the fakest girl ever! Totally over her and would hate seeing her as the bachelorette. Drives me crazy how they’re talking about Caelynn being a perfect pageant girl when Hannah B was in the same freaking pageant.
You are dumb
Kristina and Ashley both are so much prettier than CAELYNN LOL 😂😂😂
Okey so this is just my opinion from what I have seen in the show and a lot of people’s points of view in social media I don’t think Caelynn wants to be The Bachelorette actually she’s been very vocal about saying no (ik you may say she only would say that to not look thirsty) and I saw on reddit (if you’re familiar with this you may now that most of the posts are about Caelynn being fake and ppl not liking her at all) that someone point out that maybe her fakeness and mean girl behavior could be an aftermath of what she’s been through and that make her have her guard way up and feeling like she cannot trust other people because she thinks that at end they can’t turn on her and that’s why see seems to act to pageant like and calculated also that could be the reason why she’s was really heartbroken about Colton sending her home with no answer about what went wrong so I don’t think they were crocodile tears at all but just someone that was completely emotional about all that was happening.
If you have a different opinion it’s ok, you’re free to express it to me just don’t insult someone because they have a different point of view.
I think the second part of your assessment is true, but I think that Caelynn saying she's not interested in the Bachelorette job is her way of saving face, knowing Hannah B. is the Bachelorette.
Melissa Juliette that was so respectful and i totally agree (:
I think only real fake insecure people hare on Caelynn. Hannah B. is one of them. That’s great people can relate to her anxieties. Bet they can relate on her flawed character also.
The hate on caelynn is gross
You do know Caelynn denied the convo happened when asked by Colton?? Naaah
Lol don't you realize it's an edit if she was confident enough to tell Colton hey I was hoping for these guys as the bachelor she would tell him what Katie just over heard. Katie as well as the rest of the gals seen their Time was coming to a fucking end, with that being said I myself would have reacted the same fucking way a different head space I'm sorry but people want real and authentic but yet they side with one side only I'm fucking sorry but I believe caelynn I believe she is telling her truth as well as Katie there isn't any real way to know with out the audio and u bet ur sweet ass it won't happen because Hannah b agreed with Katie without hearing the conversation. And she is the bachelorette btw. It's so fucking Crystal clear Hannah hates caelynn don't u see that???? People want real and straight to the point yet they skip it for their favorites ... None of the girls from this season was my fav at all... But I'm sadden by my top pick being so closed minded which was Kristina.. I'm a fan of the show and usually the one getting heat/hate are in fact genuine people can't even see it anymore they side with the best actress/actor but this show is supposed to be about geniune feelings and such. Think about your high school years be honest with yourself... This is everything it is people gaining up on the popular girl while me myself included hopes to tear her down but now a days I just see she is honestly the best and side with her.. it's terrible not knowing yourself and your worth all these women are better than me "high school frame of mind" and I'm sure they know grammar and context better than I. I just wish people could just see how manipulated they truly are that's it..
I agree 💯
I said this on another video, I think Caelyn is similar to Krystal from Arie's season. This may not be the best arena for her and she'll shine in Paradise, at least I hope so!
am I the only one who likes Caelyn ?
Nope ! I do too
Love Kristina’s points!
Ashley I is sitting there critiquing Caelynn and speaking on these relationships... I think you should take a few steps back and dig into your own relationship. You were Jared’s last resort and all you did was force yourself on him. He messed around for a while and then came back around... yikes boo
I really didn't like this host at all. Sorry. Made it hard to watch this even though I wanted to.
Katie and caelyn both remind me of Topanga from boy meets world
ashley m yess oddly enough I can see it
katie has the widest nose ive ever seen in my life - she must get a lot of oxygen
Omg yes! Never thought of that, but since you mentioned it, I see it!
I have mixed feelings about the pacifier moment. I love Demi but not everyone can deal with an over the top personality and she has to be careful about who she is messing with. Some people don’t want to be bothered and react differently. I’m not condoning Courtney’s behavior but Demi should have just left the girl alone.
I think Kristina made a really good point!
When Desiree was bachelorette Brooks left and she had stated he was the one. But she still went on her other final date and is now married with children to Chris Siegfried. Colton could do the same thing now with Tayshia or Hannah G.
Desiree never said Brooks is the one, but sometimes we think someone may be the best fit for us and they are not.
So, how two faced is Ashley I. , honestly?
One minute she's in Caelynn's face, interviewing her and talking to her as if she likes her,
the next minute she's on the i-lost-the-count-what-video of her talking trash about her.
Think I'ma start unfollowing some these old bachelor alums.
*sips tea*
and here I thought I liked her, before.
We get it, none of you don't like Caelynn, but this is getting petty and childish,
and even bringing more women to bash her, c'mon.
Someone's jealous,perhaps?
I agree. I don't think people are being fair to Caelynn. Yet those same people celebrate the more bullying behaviours of other girls in the house.
I just couldn’t get into Colton’s season... is it just me, is the season good?
Even if Caelynn used the word "win" it doesn't mean it was used with malicious vibes but rather just shorthand language, and doesn't mean she didnt expect to be with Colton forever.
For all the Caelyn haters: read this. bossmirror.com/caelynn-miller-keyes-says-she-was-bullied-told-to-commit-suicide-after-leaving-show/
My problem with Katie is that she talking to others about what she heard instead of clarifying it with Caelyn. She told Cassie to get engaged because she loves Cassie & wanted to see her happy. I don’t think she ever thought of Colton as a prize. All the girls made judgements about her behind her back. Katie told her that her behavior didn’t look like she was ready for marriage. How dare she judge? Also, it was always the other girls bringing up crap about her. She NEVER started it. Finally, about the WTA, I don’t think anyone would go on national TV and fake cry. Why don’t people believe she was heartbroken? It’s ridiculous
I was forced to give oral sex at 4, I don’t care how long it was for Caitlyn( the girl was drugged and gang raped, 4 months, 4 years,40 years ( I’m 63) it leaves a hole in your soul, a tear in your aura, and up until now unless society changes it’s mind set, innocence and love may be more than not restored in our psyche , just saying 🍂
Wait Caelyn said she flies out to see Cassie almost weekly She would have to know what happens!!
When did she say this?
Ashley is acting like she hasn’t loved anybody before uhmm hello you cried and sobbed for you “now fiancé “ for 3 f** years and Kristina I love you but stop ... 😒😒
why can't Kristina be the next Bachelorette?
They both are Awesome
Everybody acts like they know what happened. All we're shown is what producers want us to see so there's no way anyone can truly know who's being fake or not. Regardless of who's right here, there is NO reason we should even be dividing ourselves into Team Caelynn vs Team Katie; there's enough division in the real world as it is. I can't stand people constantly bashing Caelynn either, especially after what we know she's been through. Like Liz from Nick's season said, "We should be building each other up, not tearing each other down." Also who cares what two girls said on a bus?! Does it have anything to do with you and your relationship with Colton? No? Then Colton can figure it out for himself. You are not obligated to talk trash about the other women if in "your opinion," they're not ready.
I’m so obsessed with Ashley 🙊🙈💜
Everyone is jealous of Caelynn...puhlease...who cares if she told Cassie go get engaged quit reading into it more than what it is 🙄
I can assure you these girls don't think twice about Caelynn LMAO no one's jealous of her
For a girl no one thinks twice about, they sure spent a lot of time bashing her
Ashley is also very young for her age,She still hasn’t matured, Sorry to say.
It had more to do with the fact that Cassie thought that colton liked Caelynn more. Not to do with her own feelings. She is insecure about it i think
This is a somewhat unpopular opinion but I will never going to stop saying this. BUT PLEASEEE KRISTINA FOR BACHELORETTE!!! 😩😩😩😩😩😩🙌🙌🙌
Love Kristina and Ashley 💜
Beautiful People ‼️
i don’t agree w anything u r saying wtf
I love you Cassie.
I’m not interested in you Colton.
But I love you.
I don’t love you.
I’ll fight for you.
No, I’m leaving.
Please stay. I love you.
Nah. I’m leaving. Bye.
Maybe Colton couldn't give a reason because he didn't want to embarrass her,think he finally believed Katie
Just because the women in the house questioned Caelynn doesn't mean Caelynn should be considered untrustworthy. The women may have been drawing from socialised norms around what constitutes appropriate expression, where the women's beliefs about the meaning and implication of Caelynn's words and way of communicating and body language are informed by assumptions. It's overly simplistic and judgmental to direct so much undue criticism of Caelynn, who clearly cared deeply for Colton.
The reason I don’t like Katie is because I feel like she is trying to cause trouble and blowing it out of proportion! Even if caelynn did say whatever she claims she said I feel like it’s not that deep! She’s a trouble maker
I like Caylin.
Producer got to go! Rude and snarky attitude
These two are still trying to stay relevant lol. You can tell Kristina S. really wants to be the bachelorette extremely bad. Sorry girl your time is over, move on.
Hmmm, I don't think Demi "knows who she is at all. I think she has had some really tough situations to handle at a young age, and she's trying for love and attention in any way she can get it. She's young and leading with trying to "conquer" Colton sexually, just shows her youth. For some other girls, sometimes tears can be just feeling rejected and not love.
A 4 HOUR FINALE. They better play that shit earlier than 8 PM. Nobody is gonna stay up til MIDNIGHT to watch this drama. Y'all either gotta stop with so many commercials or make it easier on the viewers!! ridiculousss
heather! It’s 2 hours each night (Monday and Tuesday) I believe
@@HannahBlazon pheww thank you for the clarification!
Demi is rude AF
On camera i can see what u mean but in interviews she seems so genuine.
Emily Aguilar NO she’s rude and a mean girl
sherry white agreed
She's not putting up with bs. I'm sure if someone shoved a baby binkie in your mouth like that u wouldn't exactly stay quiet.
judy garcia okay sure....but there’s a way to speak to someone without being a douche about it. I’m not the biggest fan of Courtney either, but Demi was MADDD disrespectful!
Big deal she was in dean's dm. She can be trying to move on from feeling in love with colton. U know what they say best way to get over someone is to get under someone else
I think podcasters and influencers are the it folks right now and these women want to be free to do that. Colton wants conventional it seems. So I think this is a time when women are not so much looking for husbands. There are a lot of husband +wife team influencers but I don’t see him being in it for that. My opinion of Cassie , her Daddy is gonna pick her husband from her church. Good luck to you girl.
Kristina should be next bachelorette
FIRST time i agree with the host , i dont sympathize with nicole at all
this is BS
Katie had no reason to throw Caelynn under the bus,it just something I can believe Caelynn said on that bus.
Even if Caelynn used the word "win" it doesn't mean it was used with malicious vibes but rather just shorthand language, and doesn't mean she didnt expect to be with Colton forever.
Kristina has no presence
I think Caelynn is a great person! Ashley let’s to legit let it go......
What is Ashley wearing? No.....
I actually like her outfit. But I don't like her unfair accusations of Caelynn. But I like her podcast with Ben H!
DEMI for bachelorette!
I think Caelynn said “get engaged” because it was in the moment and Caelynn & Cassie were besties sometimes when you feel hurt you say the opposite of how you feel I think she really liked him maybe even loved Colton but since her and Cassie were besties she was trying to be supportive but that doesn’t mean she isn’t hurt...they seem very salty towards Caelynn & it probably has to do with Cayelnn supposably “sliding into Kristina’s Ex’s dm” just like you guys are saying no opinions just facts🤷🏻♀️ I liked them both too but now they seem a bit shady to me