Labour U-turn: Keir Starmer ditches £28 billion green policy
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- This week Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer denied he was scaling back the £28bn a year pledge he said was desperately needed, not least to get the economy growing again.
Rachel Reeves vowed to be Britain's first green chancellor, with an investment plan to tackle the climate crisis without dither or delay.
But today - on the very day it emerged that the world warmed beyond 1.5 degrees celsius over an entire year for the first time - Labour completed a spectacular U-turn.
Starmer has put an end to weeks of confusion over Labour's green spending pledge by announcing he has scrapped it. He said he was "standing down" the commitment because of the "terrible damage" the Tories had done to the economy.
They say they are sticking with the promise to decarbonise all of Britain's energy generation by 2030.
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The weakest leader labour has ever had. So pathetic
Corbyn was way worse. I voted for him, but he was weaker than Starmer by a country mile.
I disagree, Corbyn had ideas and principles and stuck to them Starmer has gone back on every pledge. What's more he isn't willing to take any risks. It was one of the most popular policies that have been announced and global warming is the most important problems we as a species will face. What we get is minimal action.
@@mattbooth307crap. Stramer is as spineless as it gets
Brown, takes some bearing, left the biggest financial deficit in history. Starmer will top that.
You're a muppet if you think Brown caused that deficit@@johnturnef133
The one thing they have going for them is 'we're not the Tories' but they seem to be absolutely determined to rid themselves of that selling point too
Don't kid yourself, Starmer is a red tory just like Blair.
He's a Fabian, what do you expect.
@@markhammond9527
Its incredible but their little
Difference between both Major parties
Its been like this Thatcher
So true.
@@markjefferies55 We're like the US - a one party state.
“No one from the Labour Party was available “😂 I bet they weren’t, even they know how indefensible this is.
The Tories are not all that either. £500 million to the French, no Hs2. No dentist in Bristol, people unable to heat their homes. Let`s not mention LIzz Trust.
@@localreviewking134 Yea, whatabout those Tories, eh?
Why should anyone from the Labour Party have to answer for the lies, deceit and dishonesty from Kier Starmers Zionist Labour Party?
The one has/had worthy principles... the other is all lies, deceit and dishonesty, with unswerving support for the crimes of Israel...
@@tatata1543. Why is it indefensible ?
@@californiadreamin8423 A few reasons, number one it’s another broken pledge , they are piling up, number two, climate change isn’t going to wait for their “fiscal rules” (whatever they are - they aren’t saying, which is handy. For them) number three, this policy was supposed to be what conjured up the growth fairy and got us to have the highest growth in the G7, how are they going to achieve that now? Those are examples of some of the questions c4 news would probably have asked to which Labour would have no answer. Starmer is a weak leader, he will fold like a cheap suit at the first hint of pushback from the right press when he is in charge. Trust me, it ain’t gonna be pretty. He is not popular now but after a very short honeymoon period it will nosedive.
One thing I'm sure of, I won't be voting Labour or Conservative in the next general election.
We get the same BS year after year because we vote for it; so a shake-up in governance is imperative.
There's always lib-dem. The other parties are all a bit out-there - from the genuine lefty loons of the Greens to the I-can't-believe-it's-not-Nazis of Reform.
Thanks to the FPTP voting system, if you vote Green or LibDem you're effectively voting Tory. Anyway, now that the Tories have been given such a huge electoral advantage, with 3 parties splitting the vote on the left, the Tories get to decide when an opposition party is allowed to come to power. And in order to quieten the growing calls for electoral reform, after 14 years of unchallenged Tory rule, they're charitably going to let a right-of-centre Labour party have a play. So effectively, it really doesn't matter who you vote for, it's rigged.
Labour have had the easiest job in politics for years, and they've still screwed it up. Unbelievable. I'm gagging to vote for them, and they still can't give me one, valid reason. And no, saying because they aren't Tory isn't a valid reason.
Vote SDP then
@@lordsummerisle852 Just like everyone else who should vote SDP, I want to piggyback off Labour.
No. Vote Green Party, obviously.
@@user-zl8km4sh9p how do you mean?
I feel bad for you that you think that there's any difference between the Red Blairites and the Blue Blairites
A man with no policy, and certainly no ethical or moral obligation
No clue either. Tory boy Starmer is hopeless.
I've never voted Labour anyway, but there is no way I'd ever vote for someone who defended the actions of Jimmy Saville....
@@Brian-om2hh When? Where? What? Is there a clip or news article I can read about that please?
Tories u turn on Hs2 ? That got swept under the carpet and they took a chunk of the money destined for the north to fill pot holes in London ! You couldn't make it up .
Rubbish - nobody could make anything stick on him@@Brian-om2hh
Sod,Labour, they're just tories now.
He is really trying to give Sunak a second term, isn't he?
Hope so
Don't listen to the public, tell them what they want and force it upon them. No wonder these politicians are becoming despised by either side. whatever the answer is this is unacceptable.
You have no idea what the public want, it's obvious though that the public doesn't want to be poorer and that's what would happen if they borrow 28bil to invest in green energy.
@@andybellklas1678 Both parties are running scared, they have seen what the EU farmers have done and It has shocked them, they have been blinded by their own power and now see the results.
@@andybellklas1678so just waiting for old infrastructure to fail and energy prices to rocket is prudent?
You have to invest in infrastructure to get savings. Government isn’t about winging it
Especially when renewables are not energy dense and India China and rest increasing coal gas and oil use its economic suicide
No Malcom, what has happen is that studies show your nation must have the right "geography" for "green technology". So Germany spent 2 trillion Euros on solar. But peak demand in Germany is the dead of winter at mid night. So only 10% of the Germany electrical grid is "green energy".
is there anything labour haven't back tracked on 🤔
they aren't in power are they?
@@lvpt84 now you know what to expect from them.
There's no promise Stammerer will not renege on.
@@lvpt84they're worse the backtrack BEFORE power now.
@lvpt84 exactly so isn't backtracking on things before they're even in power even worse 🤔
Another reason why voting for either party is redundant.
They truly have no plan on how to get out of the hole we collectively dug ourselves.
Twaddle.
@@californiadreamin8423 it's far from "twaddle" it's accurate to what's actually going on. Neither Cons nor Labour have any realistic plans to make a shred of difference. The Tories want more austerity whilst Labour have their head in the clouds.
It's all just mudslinging and culture war bs which isn't helpful and makes both candidates look like children.
Do you like the policy?
@@MrTidymark I don't really see how it could've worked tbh. But it's not about whether I like something or not. I like ice cream but I wouldn't elect it to be leader of the country.
It's about whether their plan actually could work and I'm not sure Labour has any plans that could actually help the UK.
@@ChrisKeziahHyde Why does the country need help ??? If so , what do you think will miracle away 14 years of Tory government….Brexit or the brief government of Liz Truss ?
I don't trust either of the uni party.
Our ship is burning and we must do something about it! But let's just manage the fire for now, ok? Don't want to burden the 1st class passengers to pitch in too hard now, do we?
Robbers, pissing in our faces.
The man’s a joke. He’ll say anything about anything depending on who has given him or his party money and who his audience is. We deserve better candidates for politics than the current grifter’s slithering through Westminster
I’ll raise you £93 billion ( so far ) on a train line that goes from somewhere near London to somewhere near Birmingham. The other bits have been cancelled.
The Tories are a joke. NHS, million with no heat? Really come on stop supporting the weak come over to a new dawn
Hi Wendy…..been to the NHS Dentist lately ?
@@californiadreamin8423 yes last week thanks.
@@wendyboothman294 Really !!
The focus groups must've reacted badly to the policy.
They will be the first to cry when their wages and living standards continue to fall behind the USA, and Poland takes over in GDP per capita.
Depends how it's presented to them. If you sell a doom and gloom neo-liberal thing which pretends that gov borrowing is analogous to a family's and that govs don't have enormous power to raise revenues (from the rich), yea, they'd rather we continue burning fossil fuels to our own ultimate detriment.
Tax and spending other people’s money isn’t a policy. The Left hasn’t had a new idea in 100 years.
See what Mary thinks, she's Middle England.
The focus groups are paid by corporations, so yeah i bet they did and told kier to cut it, id laugh if i wasnt so angry
Don't vote labor party as long as he is the head of party.
Labour planned to fund this by borrowing the £28bn. When announced, the Bank of England interest rate was at 0.1%. It's now at 5.25%.
If the main source of funding has since become unviable - through no fault of the Labour Party - what are they supposed to do?
but people will still try and say they cant be trusted with the economy. the burnt ppe and track and trace would have funded this in full for 2 years.
I think very few people are acknowledging this.. and if Tories are maxing out the "credit card", they're going be between a rock and a hard place.
I believe the Tories know they're done for, and are wanting to sabotage the economy to make labour fail.
It would be amusing if that's true, and the Tories somehow got in again then had to fix their own mess, again, which they've failed to do over the last 10 years
Exactly. He can only work with what he's got, and there can be no doubt that Britain is in a bad way. GDP is flat, interest rates, inflation etc, all still very high, and debt is climbing. The tories are the ones responsible for this, not Starmer. At least Starmer is coming out and owning up to this u-turn before he might end up being in charge. If the tories were in Starmer's place (leader of the opposition with a view to winning the next general election), they'd lie and lie for as long as they had to to win the election, THEN they'd announce they were doing a u-turn on their green policies
Taxing the capitalists?
Governments can print money because they control the supply, and can issue their own debt, without causing consumer inflation to rise. Look at how much money Japan has been printing while struggling to get out of _deflation_. This is exactly what economist Stephanie Kelton has been convincing the US democrats of for years, and they've actually been following the advice recently.
Labour 🤝 Tories. They're the same party now
They always have heen
Different sides of the same coin would be the saying.
They really aren’t. People saying this are literally the problem. If you say they’re the same, then who are you going to vote for?
😂😂😂
@@s7nful_ the SNP 😉. Where do Labour and the tories differ exactly both love the bankers and private healthcare
The red tories ! Pro banker pro private healthcare
They are all the same as if the pm has any real power all just puppets anyone who votes is just a fool 😂
The NHS is shite
Here we go, again..
@@roleat I’ve lived under private healthcare and it’s worse 😉
@@s7nful_ what does the truth hurt ? Labour aren’t capping bankers bonuses and are planning to increase private access to the NHS so where I’m i incorrect exactly ?
He's basically a Tory parading around as a Labour Politician.
And, who are you going to vote for at the next General Election?
Let me guess.. If it isn’t the Tories, then it’s probably gonna be Reform UK, previously called Brexit Party, right, right?
Oh no he's not!
Red Tory.
Will it matter if anyone votes...seriously?
Let's face it, he only put that out to try to gain votes.
Must think we're mental.
Any way the wind blows Starmer. That's the type of leader we need. 'For the children'
I’ll raise you £93 billion ( so far ) on a train line that goes from somewhere near London to somewhere near Birmingham. The other bits have been cancelled.
Is that sarcasm 😂
Let's stick with what we have then?
@@christineroberts9780. Let me guess , you’re the pub bore.
No you don't understand you must have the right "geography" for "green investment" the UK doesn't have enough sun. Also, in the UK peak demand for electrical power is during winter and at mid night. So "green technology" is waste because you "geography" is bad. Where as certain parts of Australia where it is hot and sunny peak demand is during summer and the mid day. So Australia is ideal for "green investments" but not the United Kingdoms.
Though unelectable, you can understand why Corbyn was elected as leader. At least he inspired hope in some and had some sort of vision.
Corbyn didn't tell the Labour members a pack of lies to vote for him...
He was only 'unelectable' because the media and the super rich, who benefit so much from the status quo, convinced us it was so.
@@andrewwalsh2755 The media, however, did tell a pack of lies about Corbyn to avoid him being in power.
Really?
It's a shame he had to face the attacks from the predominately right wing tory controlled media. I doubt he'd have been a great PM but let's be fair the bunch of clowns we got instead were far far worse.
Literally no reason to vote for Starmer's Labour. Not a jot of difference between them and the Tories.
Labour need to be honest.
Taxes for the well off need to go up.
Those who can afford to pay more should do.
Simplify taxes and stop letting people and companies avoid paying it.
And the well off will go live elsewhere and you wont have any tax money. 10% of the British people pay 60% of the tax. So the rich in the UK already pays the majority of the tax so ok lets tax them more and push them to go live, generate wealth elsewhere and pay their tax elsewhere and then 60% of our tax money is gone.
By well off > £10m is the ones, anything under that is “chicken fee”… let’s do an additional 5% above £5m. If they don’t like it, they can sod off.
@@paulyandnukhas You do realise that someone making £10m is already paying about £4m in tax? So if they sod off where are you getting that £4m they are not paying from?
@@peterholden3672Don't think with logic when it comes to the wealthy.
@@peterholden3672 I do not think that it would hurt them however that's not my argument. Address my point please instead of addressing a point I never made. What are you going to do when rich people decide the tax rate is too high and take their money elsewhere and you lose all that tax money?
Shock horror - political party changes policy. Unbelievable. 😂😂😂
You do know that's not funny Old Boy?
Tories double down on stupid policies. Labour renege on good ones.
We want to know what he's going to do, not what he isn't going to do.
Zionist Labour is going to do... what Zionist frontpersons for Israel tell it to do...
... otherwise... they don't get the money...
A vote for labour is the death of this country
Well said 👏
The Tories are just peachy then ?
💩 public services ok for you ?
Why ???
@@matthewcook9404 The anti English anti white party
He’s a bag of wind…….spinning like top.
Starmer is NOT the PM we need
So that's Labour down the pan. It isn't so much the fact it was a green policy, it's the changing of mind after firmly promising things..... We desperately need political change in Britain.....
Horseshoes politics is Starmer’s only policy!
Do politicians watch the news and read posts on social media , do they realise how hated they are? How many times will Starmer do a U-turn , how many times will Sunak say "plan" and "inflation"?
I’ll raise you £93 billion ( so far ) on a train line that goes from somewhere near London to somewhere near Birmingham. The other bits have been cancelled.
Only uturn I want is for the boats. I'll settle for a u boat.
No you don't understand you must have the right "geography" for "green investment" the UK doesn't have enough sun. Also, in the UK peak demand for electrical power is during winter and at mid night. So "green technology" is waste because you "geography" is bad. Where as certain parts of Australia where it is hot and sunny peak demand is during summer and the mid day. So Australia is ideal for "green investments" but not the United Kingdoms.
Just remember Germany tried to force the issue an though they were told "green technology" would not be affective for them. Why? Because peak demand in Germany is in the dead of winter at midnight where their very little sun in day and no sun at night. Currently Germany has spent over 2 trillion Euros and only 10% of their electrical grid is "green energy".
@@Madame702you’ve just mentioned solar power.
What about wind, tidal geothermal?
But sure keep going on with the BuT THe SuN DoEsnT ShinE
What's is he going to do when this country has to go to actual war, his inability to come to decisions quickly is lacking. It wasn't just sprung onto his..
Is there any promise that Stammerer has not reneged on? His sole selling point is not being the current tories and let's be fair that is a low low bar. He's lucky that Sunak and the tories are held in such contempt or he'll be snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
I'm sick of there being no decent opposition. We need a new left-leaning party with a strong mission statement preferably with Jeremy Corbyn at the helm.
No we need a new right leaning party
"The illusion of "Democracy" will continue for as long as it's profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will take down the scenery, move the tables and chairs out of the way, then they will pull back the curtains and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theatre."
-Frank Zappa
Another very good reaon to vote REFORM UK. The only solution to overcome the 2 major, traditional parties who between them have virtually destroyed our once great country over the last few decades.
Ah yes.... more Brexit nonsense (which has had zero benefits, only downsides), racism, xenophobia, division, transphobia, economic incompetence. We need more of this super right wing stuff the Tories have been trying and completely failing at.
How stupid do you need to be to think more of the same but harder and faster is the answer to the shithole the country has got to....?
I never believed it anyway,that is a big commitment that he could never fulfil it,no matter how it pleased the left and the greens,never mind e can always blame the Tories for the crashing of the economy.That's politics!
And we all wonder why my generation feels completely done for.
Having Starmer as PM will be just as pointless as what we already have. It's depressing to think there really is no difference between the two main parties.
It does feel like they are just different sides of the same -pooh- coin.
If you are Scottish this shouldn’t come as a surprise. They are all English nationalist elitists
Hmm.. I don’t think so.
Comparing the Tories to Labour is like comparing sugar to salt. They just aren’t the same.
theres a massive difference. the surprising thing is you cant see how bad the tories have been. just the latest 300 mil for nothing we dont even need to look any further than that.
Green is just a con for the most part. The rich can do as they please for some reason
That is a worrying, bullisht narrative espoused by vested interests and triggered boomers.
Exactly. They're basically using a policy I disagree with and that I pay for in order to win power. No chance.
Anyone voting Starmer is brain dead.
The poor are the ones who be most affected by climate change and also most affected by green policy. Its not fair
And you continue to fall for the elite and their propaganda machine.
There's no need to borrow that 12.9 billion, we can simply cut it off the pension budget. Pensioners have had it too good for too long.
Are UGLY windmills across our land GREEN ????
Or coal fired power station with plumes of black smoke
Yes? Wind is free, and it’s not a finite resource, providing us with energy without consequences. That’s beautiful, not ugly.
Wow, Skidmore, a politician with integrity - no wonder he left the Tories.
Yes, remarkable comments by him. A shame he was forced to resign and people like Lee Anderson, Jacob Rees-Mogg, and Liz Truss are still around.
So disappointed in this
Yes he's blaming Liz Truss who was going to pay for tsx cuts with growth. He doesn't care! He has the cheek go and join thr tories
As soon as that fence wobbles he will say the opposite, we've been let down so many time with broken promises/mandates by both major parties in the UK - time for a change.
Under the thumb of the oil giants. What a surprise 🙄
This is why we need manifesto promises to be held legally. Failure to implement should trigger a general election, this to stop parties over promising and under delivering. How can we trust Labours general election promises, when they'll just drop everything when in power. Vote Green
Your logic is a dumb as a brick
“We need manifesto promises to be held legally”
“Failure to implement should trigger a general election”
Manifesto promises are utterly meaningless unless you win and Labour can’t win on a Corbyn 2.0 manifesto.
Green Party has zero chance of winning so they don’t need swing voters in marginals or disaffected Conservatives to vote for them, so they can engage in self indulgent policies
Your vote for green is a vote for the Conservatives. Enjoy.
Absolutely correct, this Conservative government promised us a proper Brexit + reduced immigration. They've not delivered, so I'll be voting Reform UK next time.
DO NOT VOTE Green! They are not a goverment but an ideology. To them, the ends will justify any means. They will destory whats left of Britain, just look at Germany and how well the Greens have done over ther
my comment was deleted! Do not vote green
But they haven’t published their manifesto yet, they won’t do that until it’s time for the election. I mean surely you don’t want them to announce their manifesto policies a year in advance of the election and then refuse to change them if it turns out that there won’t be the money they originally thought was going to be available to fund them? Not being funny but they submitted their plans to be assessed, and they came back today and said they will be more expensive than they estimated, so they reduced the scale of them so that it’s still within what they can afford to do, I don’t really understand why everyone’s up in arms about it, what would people would want them to do different than that? Stick with the plans even though they’ve found out they won’t be able to afford them?
Keir Starmer has never disagreed with the Tories on anything...He is more conservative than Boris Johnson
Watch PMQ's then you see
@@charlievarleyyou mean the theatre of elitists.
What a schmuck. 🤦♂️
Democracy died in the UK because all major political parties now share ideologies and policies and in the process left voters without alternatives.....A uniparty democracy is not a true democracy
Labour: "We have one inspiring, flagship policy. Shall we keep it? Naaaaaaaaah". Deeply disappointing.
slippery as ever, nothing sticks with this man
Yes. He has loads of mistresse😂
Perhaps Rishi was right about Starmer always U-turning haha
Perhaps Starmer was right that Sunak isn’t doing anything to help those worse off.
Matey Sunak cancelled HS2, which he implemented as Chancellor, short of actually connecting any cities and then sold off the purchased land for the rest of the route to his mates so nobody would be able to finish it. £100 Billion spent on a completely useless line from nowhere to nowhere. Thats a U turn you should worry about.
Starmer cutting his Green plan because the economy is in the toilet is frustrating, but makes sense and since exactly none of the plan has been implemented. Not too much to worry about and no public money lost.
@@theghostoftom That’s correct! I forgot about Sunak scrapping HS2, not to also forget, the now failed Rwanda plan. I was explaining this to somebody before. 😅
I’ll raise you £93 billion ( so far ) on a train line that goes from somewhere near London to somewhere near Birmingham. The other bits have been cancelled.
Boris called Starmer the "Human Weathervane" and with good reason.
How he has weaponized the gallery in the House was disgusting and against the policy of the House.
Sue him.
As somebody under the age of 25 I have completely lost faith with government in this country. Why should we even vote?
Because not voting allows your enemies to win. They want you despondent, they want you feeling powerless, they don't want you to vote. I feel like it's time to give Green a chance, we need someone in who cares about the environment.
How can you ever hope to see change if you don't vote? If you do nothing, then nothing happens...... People have died to allow you the right to vote.
Vote for a third party. Vote Green. They probably won't win, but at least you voted morally rather than choosing between the lesser of two evils.
Because they only try to win the support of voters. By not voting, you are sending a message that they don't need to bother fighting for policies that you want
Because even if you don't agree with every policy, you should at least vote for the lesser of two evils
Vote for the party you detest the least.
TAX AND SPEND.....NOTHING HAS CHANGED IN 60 YEARS
Its obvious before it was announced it was unoffordable
Oil is not the solution
it was affordable until interest rates skyrocketed. adjusting spending and being responsible with the economy is why they are bitching ? i thought labour was the ones we cannot trust with the economy, yet they are adjusting and not overspending. while the Tories waste 50 billion on track and trace and ppe that's unusable.
Doing nothing has much worse long term consequences.
Starmer doing a u-turn,can't be true,can it?
U-Turn Starmer🫡
"Hiya! It's me!"
"Sorry? Who are you?"
"It's me, Danny! The guy that's ding-donging with the UK's top barrister and winning."
A promise from Starmer means absolutely nothing.
Great, I'm sure Sunak is an honest upstanding BILLIONAIRE, man of the people kind of guy. Now, where`s that NHS dentist?
Kier Starmer said himself, during partygate, that he has "honesty, integrity and patriotism"...
... he is, of course, a Liar...
... Vote Green Party!🇬🇧...
@@localreviewking134 what?
@@reallymakesyouthink A one word reply defines your thought process.
@@localreviewking134 why?
That's very disappointing. Not good for investor confidence. Not what you want to hear in your final year of university studying environmental science.
You'll be fine, as long as you get the stamped paper you can just get a middle-management job in plenty of industries. And I'm 100% sure the investors will find something else to spend their pennies on.
Get a proper job in Banking, make some real money.
£28 billion isn't anywhere near enough to make a difference anyway.
I think Starmer knows this.
People don’t know what Labour actually stands for. I can imagine Barbara Castle’s verdict on the present Labour Front Bench “weak as water”😊
When he became leader I requested doubting friends to give him a chance but what a spineless man he seems to be
All I can say is that thank goodness.
The only thing Keir Starmer is committed to is his own pension scheme. He even has his own pension law - The Pensions Increase (Pension Scheme for Sir Keir Starmer QC) Regulations 2013 - a special law for Starmer meaning the rules that apply to everyone else don't apply to him.Allowing him to retire with millions whilst everyone else starves in the gutter.
No great loss with his resignation what I want to know is why is he still an MP
How ironic, when tories took over the labour party failed to acknowledge the decimated economy and yet they are now using the same excuse the tories did
Stop voting for Red Blairites and the Blue Blairites
Vote for Reform. Fix immigration, fix housing.
Instead of voting for crypto fascists vote for actual fascists, not a f*cking chance.
And what difference does it make if China is going to keep building more coal power plants like they say they will? The UK will makes less than 0.1% difference to climate change.
100%, they know that but it doesnt matter. We are being lied to. Green policies like this will be a nail in the cofffin for this country.
That's one of the most accurate comments here.
A little while ago, someone had worked out what difference it would make on the current trend towards climate change if Britain was to suddenly vanish off the face of the Earth.
Turned out that, given the expected population increase of the rest of the planet over the next 12 months, the answer was zero
£28 billion isn't anywhere nearly enough to even get started. Stick another '0' on the end of that figure, and it still wouldn't undo 1% of the historical damage Britain has done since it started the Industrial Revolution.
So, I was a bit surprised by the majority of these comments, because I'd have thought most people these days would've realised that that sum of money doesn't do much more than build a fancy Olympics stadium.
The amount of work we need to do to make a positive impact on the environment is absolutely 'staggering.' Personally, I don't think it can be done or will be done. Too many countries consisting of the lion's share of the world's population are either too ignorant or too belligerently denialist.
my comment was deleted!
You don't understand global leaders do you.
Self serving moral posturing
Politicians are always skewered for changing course, but to be fair to Labour.. should they win they’ll be inheriting an absolutely stripped bare economy. The Tories have governed for 13 years, starting with Osborne and Cameron’s failed austerity, Brexit, Boris, Covid (including the Tories giving hundreds of millions in PPE contracts to their mates), the Russian war on Ukraine and most recently Liz Truss trying to torpedo the Pound. Rishi Sunak has done nothing useful, so what money can Labour reasonably spend?
Hes not ditched it hes just a born liar
Can’t wait for 4 years of labour blaming the tories for everything they can’t do 👍🏻
Seems fair enough - the Tories ( in power ) have blamed the opposition ( not in power ) for 14 years.
People: WE WANT HONEST POLITICS
Labour: We will not commit to the £28 billion green fund as times have changed and it is affordable. We won't make promises we can't keep.
People: WE WANT AMBITIOUS POLICIES.
The next prospective govt should be promising to SAVE £28Billion not Fcuking SPEND it!!!
you some times have to spend money to save money, or make money. would rather see 100 billion spent on renewables than 50 billion on track and trace and unusable ppe... AGAIN
@@plamerj1234 You cant justify one con by saying its not as big as another con...they are both still massive cons!!
My Labour vote goes to the Green Party, that is my CEASEFIRE vote.
More reason to vote for the green party if your left wing
Eh the same green party that has blocked 100's of solar farms, wind turbines, other forms of renewable energy when in local government. The same green party that is againt nuclear energy. The same green party that opposes large-scale infrastructure projects for environmental reasons while also supporting a shift towards greater public transport. The green party doesn't even have particularly Socalist or social decomcratic polices, they're much more liberal than Labour... This is not where a left wing or eco conscious vote should go.
There no nice way to say this... Only the politically illiterate vote for Green, have you even read their previous manifestos!
I'm quite happy they've dropped it..This " green" madness needs to stop
It's very silly getting rid of this. £20 billion over a parliament is very acheavable. The uk spends around £60 billion a year on infrastructure investment, and a lot of that is wasteful.
Ha, really when the UK goes net zero the earth will cool down? What 1% of our emissions will do that, me thinks not.
Labour is showing inovation, most political parties wait until they are in government before breaking their promises.
I won’t vote Labour. Just as bad. I’m looking at Reform.
Captain Ubend never fails to disappoint
Reckless was introducing the ULEZ based on lies. The ULEZ endorsed by Keir Starmer himself.
I thought it was Boris back when he was mayor
@@lvpt84 You repeat Red propaganda. ken livingstone (Reds) started all that his CC. Ok Bojo added his bit in central London but that was more less reasonable (no need for 24h). The last expansion was just stupid and Bojo did not make Khan to do that.
So stop repeating Red propaganda, they brainwashed you. The Labour started charging road users and Khan went with it too far.
@@lvpt84 Half right. It's on Wikipedia: "Plans were announced by London Mayor Boris Johnson in March 2015 for the zone to come into operation in September 2020. Sadiq Khan, the subsequent mayor, introduced the zone early on 8 April 2019."
So it was Boris's initiative in the beginning, but by the time it was ready to come into effect there was a new mayor in office, and Khan finished it off. It was also Kahn who later extended the area.
The parties blame each other for it given a chance, but despite the local anger it has achieved the objective: Air quality in central London has been improved from levels that were really dangerous to human health on long-term exposure, and there is mounting evidence it's actually reduced hospital stays due to respiratory illness. The air quality in London was getting so bad there really was no alternative to ULEZ, no matter how much people living there hate it.
Screw first past the post being used as a threat. Labour can't just go on assuming "not being the Tories" is enough to secure a progressive vote. Greens have got mine.
They've halved it, not ditched it.
Rather like Tony Benn’s assessment of Neil Kinnock “he’s given up everything he’s ever believed only to find people don’t believe a word he says “
Scrap the whole net zero impossible dream and you may gain some support Rodders
Why are people crying about it? I would rather have a politician who accepts his mistake and changes his plans according to the situation.
Uk does not have more money to spend on the green project. It's as simple as that. Time was different before. Now it's different.
Rather, he has a leader who improves himself than a leader who is stubborn.
It is very misleading to say that national debt will fall... it's nearly £3 Trillion, and growing ever larger... it will Not fall, I guarantee it...
Debt as a measure of the economy (debt/gdp) might fall... if you "borrow to invest"... and import as much cheap labour as you can... but that is just kicking the can down the road, making matters worse in the future, and meanwhile overloading NHS, housing, renting, sewage polluting rivers, food security, policing etc...
As long as the kids are ok with being poorer...
£4.7 billion? £28 billion pounds was actually a small amount.
Germany is currently investing £43 billion annually in climate protection and transforming the economy.
Why have they gone back to using coal if its working so well?
@@Jack-kx4sc You've obviously never heard of heat pumps, house insulation, electric cars, recycling, retention basins, dike protection, green steel, charging stations, renaturation, district heating... right!
Furthermore, Germany generates 55% of its electricity from renewable energies, and the trend is rising.
Exactly. Meanwhile coal use in the USA has dramatically reduced and the EU is more dependent on US gas than ever before 😆
@@aleph8888 And the British have gas fields on their doorstep and are too stupid to use them, and have the highest gas prices ever
@@aleph8888To be fair, the fall in coal use in the US isn't really a result of environmental policies. It's just that natural gas got ridiculously cheap there - it's produced as a byproduct of oil extraction in quantities so vast it often gets burned off because it's worth less than the cost of transport. Coal can't compete with natural gas on price right now.
Good. Now ALL green initiatives need to be scrapoed starting with ULEZ
Cowardly Kier flakes out again and goes back on another pledge!
Reguardless tories are finished lol
Vote Green.
It's the morally correct thing to do, but it will almost certainly mean a Torie victory unless the Greens actually make a campaign that matters. They need to be offering themselves as the alternative on a massive scale. They just aren't.
@@beardedbear9901 there is zero chance of a Tory victory at the next GE. None. So the best we can do is reduce Labour’s majority in the direction of more left-wing parties.
@@rainbowevil I'm sorry, but where are you getting the idea that every single tory voter just died off?
And yes, supporting multiple left of centre parties is good on paper. But unless they gain a majority, they still lose.
@@beardedbear9901 the polls couldn’t be much more stark. Sure, theoretically there’s a chance that they could still win, but not in almost any reality. It’s certainly safe enough to encourage those who actually care about things politically to vote Green, since most don’t care enough and most of tho who do won’t anyway. But remember - we left the EU because enough people were voting for UKIP to get the Tories’ attention, despite them getting basically no seats.
@@rainbowevil I think you're a little confused. Nobody voted UKIP in the referendum. They voted out.
I'm glad you agree however that a Tory win remains possible.
If green energy was as good as they claimed it wouldn't need government subsidies. Also, nuclear is by the most "environmentally friendly" and efficient source of energy and we've got rid of it
Because the English dont want it next to them and Scotland is sick of being put in danger for England’s benefit !
Today, I was sent a letter claiming that my property has failed to get some sort of 'green' certificate (even though no one's ever been round to check the place over).
I threw away the letter inviting me to take advantage of 'free upgrades' to my property, and for very good reason...
Some years ago, my retired friend decided to take advantage of the 'Green Deal' scheme then being promoted.
2 salesmen came round and tried the 'hard sales' tactic on her 'for several hours.' (I am not kidding you).
They mercilessly badgered her to get a biomass heating system installed, which wasn't what she'd shown an interest in anyway.
Thankfully, despite fatigue and hunger, she held out, repeatedly refusing the heating system and insisted on knowing more about the external insulation (which was all she wanted to know about).
They agreed on that, she waited months and months, and then an appointment was set for work to begin. Then, one day, a van drew up, dumped off materials, no tools and 5 men who couldn't speak a single word of English.
They were left there the entire day. They had no food. There were no shops for miles, and they had no money for buses. They were so clueless, my friend had to show them how to use a trowel, which she lent them, of course.
I went to visit her afterwards, and the first thing I noticed as I walked up the driveway - was the state of the house. Honestly, they devalued it.
She asked the company to come back and put things right. They didn't.
If you think about, a council has to invite multiple quotes from outside contractors to get done those special jobs that their direct employees wouldn't normally do. It's a matter of course that councils are supposed to accept the cheapest quote, and that often leads to some pretty suspect work (it's cost my local council millions).
So, if the country's government is going to invite quotes from multiple contractors to do upgrades on our houses - do you think they are going to choose quality over quantity for the likes of us?
No, like my friend, we'll find ourselves at the mercy of those who've given the cheapest quotes. Personally, I don't take risks, and I don't want a firm I don't deal with potentially damaging my property. No green deal will tempt me, not even for free.
Previous policy ideas will inevitably change over time as current economic conditions change! Ever since Brexit, the Tories economic plan for Britain has turned into pure, un-mitigating disaster! No-one should be surprised with Starmer's re-assessment. The sooner Labour takes over, the better. Enough is enough!
Why can neither Conservatives nor Labour at least signal that they care about environmental issues? This chaotic messaging makes them both appear unaware, inconsistent and irresponsible.
so nothing to hope for if labour voted in, just slightly less incompetence/ sleaze
That's a huge assumption.