The way you hunt and shoot down the second Phantom is really amazing. I also like how he tries to evade (popping up some black smoke!) after the first shots. These little amazing details make the DCS one of the best simulators.
@@peterkovinski8476 u do know that vietnamese flown mig19 mostly while russian from pilot fly mig21 in vietnam cause of how hard it is to fly and only some Vietnamese are qualified
Seems a reasonable scenario from the Russian perspective for a Frontal MiG-21bis (Mod 75B) versus three United States Air Force F-4 Deltas (F-110 Charlies under the Century designation). OKB Mikojana-Gurjevnogo did some internal redesign on the -21bis to fix fuel distribution issues that left the -21 through MF shorter-legged than planned; these fixes were retained through the -21bisSM (Mod 93 with R-25 turbojet; Mod 97 with RD-33 turbofan). The last kill was made particularly fascinating by target's discharge of flares against possible R-13M missile shots, thus the need to close to gun range for a fifty-round burst from the GP-9.
Now that I'm doing my best in dogfight tranining there are a lots of things to be done yet. I owe you a big time. Most stunning shots you showed us, yep. Thanx
thanks a lot. try to keep your nose under the incoming enemy to avoid his radarsignal. Mind that your enemy cannot shoot you with missles in hard G-turns. Only when his nose shows towards you while you change direction or fly straight ahead you bring yourself in big trouble.
for real i was surprised too. Maybe its cause of the fact that only the leader plane goes into attack mode, fires a sparrow and dropped off his external. When i shot down his leader he was in a hard turn. Could be the G-load forestalled the drop .
Pilot Absolut Yeah...that's possible. But I really love that puff of smoke, when he makes sudden changes in throttle position. I didn't even know, there is F-4. :-)
Oh absolutely. I have always wondered how a single engined fighter plane with thrust vectoring would be to fly like. Such as in the Dassault Mirage, Mikoyan MiG 21 and even MiG-15.
No phantom variant should ever lose to a Mig-21 in a dog fight. Vertical, 1 circle , 2 circle the mig can’t turn with the F-4. Any proficient pilot would have taken it into a rate fight immediately. it should have been mig kills first F-4, turns on the burner and runs home. When the second one was constantly reversing the turn after the rolling scissor, his “wing man “ (3rd F4) should have been on your 6 and lighting you up. Great vid but I’ll assume the AI was set on “ beginner” to let that situation happen lol
I've watched a few of these DCS vids and I had no idea flight simulators have becomes so realistic! So anyone with enough computer hardware power can play this? I only have a laptop so I would never have enough graphics power but quite compelling.. how much power do you need to make it so realistic.. Does someone who learns how to play this game know how to fly a real mig-21?
You need a computer with a fast CPU. Core i3, i5 or i7, DCS is only two threads, but performs a bit better on a four-thread CPU. Anything over 4 GHz is great, 3 GHz is still pretty good. For best graphical detail (and DCS World 2 has lots of that!) requires a very hefty graphics card. GTX 1070 is a good one, 1080 Ti is great--and expensive. In this video, you'e seeing DCS 1.5, not 2.1 which is the newest version. 2.x is much better, but incomplete--they're still working on developing it.
f-4 wasn't very effective in Vietnam, only small amount of aim-9 found their target, I guess with modern variants of AIM-9 they would be far more effctive. Funny that MIG's used P-13 rockets which were reverse engineered copies of AIM-9
The Americans are technology fetishists in comperison to the russians who are extremly effektive to deal with what they have. Maybe it has something to do with the size of their country or the fact that in the end of ww2 most of the german ingeneers fleed towards or get captured by the usa insteed of russia.
Since i am not an reallife pilot i cannot answer this question properly, but the Bleep you hear is the Radar Warning Signal, its possible to adjust its loudness. i am not disdurped by it as i am used to signal noises in cockpit. For me personaly its a very usefull instrument. The point on it is that the rwr in the mig 21 bis doesnt show you if friendly or hostile radar painting. you have to have a good situational awarness to filter its informations
in a Dogfight i use everything i have to accelerate and decelerate as quick as possible. At the end of the Demonstration you can see i have the flaps on takeoff. For example: ride your bicycle fast and you need a long radius around the Corners. Break quick before and you have your best corner speed. Yes sometimes i use speedbreaks in a dive , especially when i see the afterburner from my oponent glowing up, to come on six Position.
Пассивный полет, атакующих маневров минимум, как говно в небе болтается! Отсутствуют уходы от атаки противника, не менее 3-х раз был в положении активной атаки от фантома, вот только он не атаковал почему-то, поэтому и выжил.
www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/shop/ or trough steam. DCS-World comes free with one attack plane (su25t) and a p51. all other aircraft are download modules you need to pay for.
This content i have produced some years ago. AI at this point was not programmed very well and still need progress at this point today. Skill level was set on highest. But even than its easy to shoot down an F4 with some practice. And i flow this mission for a few times, wich make it much more easy for me.
Harold The F-4 was not at all designed for any kind of bombing. It was designed as a long-range high-speed interceptor and fleet defense fighter tasked with shooting down bombers. It just so happened that it was what the Navy and Army had at the time and so it was in Vietnam where it excelled in bombing missions.
did the mig-21 ever dogfight with an f-5? The f-5 seemed like the more dangerous american aircraft.. when i visited vietnam 20 years ago they still had an f-5 on display outside the presidential palace and an huey helicopter. the f-4 looks fat and slow compared to a mig-21 that is, just by looking at them..
Sam Khoury F-5Es and older models of the MiG-21bis engaged in several dogfights during the Ogaden War (Ethiopia vs Somalia). Ethiopian F-5s shot down several MiG-21s with missiles and cannon fire. In Vietnam however, there are no recorded engagements of South Vietnamese F-5 engagements against the 21s. warisboring.com/which-is-better-the-f-5e-tiger-ii-or-the-mig-21-e92e5c5a1ef3#.7ejtjp8ij
Sam Khoury You are correct. In close range dogfights, the F-5 is much better than the F-4. It is not as fast, but it will outmaneuver the F-4 by far. During Vietnam exercises, F-5s simulated MiG-21s during practice with the F-4s. Fun Fact: During the Blue Flag war games, we still use F-5s as aggressor squadrons to train our F-15, F-16, and I believe even our F-18 squadrons.
I'm not buying any of this ?, 3 F-4's, against 1 MiG-21, you children that play War with your video games?, have no inclination about what war is all about ?
The way you hunt and shoot down the second Phantom is really amazing. I also like how he tries to evade (popping up some black smoke!) after the first shots. These little amazing details make the DCS one of the best simulators.
Greatest Fighter Jet 1960s
Legend Fighter in World :)
so true
Flown by Vietnamese pilots.
@@peterkovinski8476 u do know that vietnamese flown mig19 mostly while russian from pilot fly mig21 in vietnam cause of how hard it is to fly and only some Vietnamese are qualified
@@chicuongvu1806 almost every mig21 was steered by vn pilot . ussr pilots were only used in training vietnamese
Seems a reasonable scenario from the Russian perspective for a Frontal MiG-21bis (Mod 75B) versus three United States Air Force F-4 Deltas (F-110 Charlies under the Century designation). OKB Mikojana-Gurjevnogo did some internal redesign on the -21bis to fix fuel distribution issues that left the -21 through MF shorter-legged than planned; these fixes were retained through the -21bisSM (Mod 93 with R-25 turbojet; Mod 97 with RD-33 turbofan). The last kill was made particularly fascinating by target's discharge of flares against possible R-13M missile shots, thus the need to close to gun range for a fifty-round burst from the GP-9.
MiG - Mikojan-Gurjevich, not Gurjevnogo.
Now that I'm doing my best in dogfight tranining there are a lots of things to be done yet. I owe you a big time.
Most stunning shots you showed us, yep. Thanx
thanks a lot. try to keep your nose under the incoming enemy to avoid his radarsignal. Mind that your enemy cannot shoot you with missles in hard G-turns. Only when his nose shows towards you while you change direction or fly straight ahead you bring yourself in big trouble.
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охрененно сделанно,что сказать!!! (от наводчика ПВО))))
nice demo of vertical versus angles fight
Nice
Nicely done....
Nice view control. How you can track enemies and work with instrumental panel at the same time?
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wow nice stuff!
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nice!!! beauty fight
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Cool!
Jesus, its like watching an antique fly.
all this without compressor stall :O quiet impressive. i fly dcs and the mig21 for a few weeks now
Hi Horst. What is compressor stall buddy? I don't know what it is.
@@sandeepsreehari9188 basically your engine is shut down during flight, not so handy in a fight
Great video! Second Phantom should have dropped the externals before the dogfight. :-)
hey fuel is expensive ;)
Sure it is. :-)
for real i was surprised too. Maybe its cause of the fact that only the leader plane goes into attack mode, fires a sparrow and dropped off his external. When i shot down his leader he was in a hard turn. Could be the G-load forestalled the drop .
Pilot Absolut Yeah...that's possible. But I really love that puff of smoke, when he makes sudden changes in throttle position. I didn't even know, there is F-4. :-)
Zatracenec
me too :)
all i knew was that he is behind me. didnt see him before this puff
Good!
Thanks for watching, i am glad you enjoyed it.
Отличная машина - отличный бой !
now that was something!
I am glad that you like it ;)
DCS is awesome
500 clicks :D, this is Motivation. Now i will make some more stuff . Should i make one with Music . what you People think?
Pilot Absolut no would much rather hear the sounds from inside the plane personally
Great dogfight. I could follow your plan the whole way! Now I need to get my son off the computer!
Hahaha , let him play those are the next generation pilots :D
Just wondering... was there an inflight meal on that flight?
No music. Pilots in real life have no music when they dogfight.
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The computer is too simple, have you tried Falcon 4.0 or BMS?
why?
Would love to see a dogfight in a jet w/ thrust vectoring
Oh absolutely. I have always wondered how a single engined fighter plane with thrust vectoring would be to fly like. Such as in the Dassault Mirage, Mikoyan MiG 21 and even MiG-15.
No phantom variant should ever lose to a Mig-21 in a dog fight. Vertical, 1 circle , 2 circle the mig can’t turn with the F-4. Any proficient pilot would have taken it into a rate fight immediately. it should have been mig kills first F-4, turns on the burner and runs home. When the second one was constantly reversing the turn after the rolling scissor, his “wing man “ (3rd F4) should have been on your 6 and lighting you up. Great vid but I’ll assume the AI was set on “ beginner” to let that situation happen lol
Can be. But this is a game and not the past vietnam war
Pertempuran udara tergantung dari ketrampilan dan kecerdasan pilotnya
I used to think FA-18 Interceptor on the Amiga was a cutting edge, shit hot simulation.
welcome to the club, old boy! ;)
good kill
thx you sir! S!
north vietnamies army wishesh to have pilots like you
@4:12 If the F-4 went vertical you would have problems to chase it, otherwise good video
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Mig 21 can shoot down f4 phantom by VIETNAM
Lan Anh Lam Thai and vice versa
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I've watched a few of these DCS vids and I had no idea flight simulators have becomes so realistic! So anyone with enough computer hardware power can play this? I only have a laptop so I would never have enough graphics power but quite compelling.. how much power do you need to make it so realistic.. Does someone who learns how to play this game know how to fly a real mig-21?
You need a computer with a fast CPU. Core i3, i5 or i7, DCS is only two threads, but performs a bit better on a four-thread CPU. Anything over 4 GHz is great, 3 GHz is still pretty good.
For best graphical detail (and DCS World 2 has lots of that!) requires a very hefty graphics card. GTX 1070 is a good one, 1080 Ti is great--and expensive.
In this video, you'e seeing DCS 1.5, not 2.1 which is the newest version. 2.x is much better, but incomplete--they're still working on developing it.
f-4 wasn't very effective in Vietnam, only small amount of aim-9 found their target, I guess with modern variants of AIM-9 they would be far more effctive. Funny that MIG's used P-13 rockets which were reverse engineered copies of AIM-9
The Americans are technology fetishists in comperison to the russians who are extremly effektive to deal with what they have. Maybe it has something to do with the size of their country or the fact that in the end of ww2 most of the german ingeneers fleed towards or get captured by the usa insteed of russia.
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I have a question! In real Mig21, does it always have sound BEEB? will it annoy you when you're doing dog fight?
Since i am not an reallife pilot i cannot answer this question properly, but the Bleep you hear is the Radar Warning Signal, its possible to adjust its loudness. i am not disdurped by it as i am used to signal noises in cockpit. For me personaly its a very usefull instrument. The point on it is that the rwr in the mig 21 bis doesnt show you if friendly or hostile radar painting. you have to have a good situational awarness to filter its informations
@@pilotabsolut3129 That's a quite good enough information. Thanks
best sim for virtual pilot
my absolute favorite since the first Lock On days. Only in WW2 i exchange DCS against IL2-Great Battles. I love the russian planes ;)
Do you use speedbrakes while diving?
in a Dogfight i use everything i have to accelerate and decelerate as quick as possible. At the end of the Demonstration you can see i have the flaps on takeoff. For example: ride your bicycle fast and you need a long radius around the Corners. Break quick before and you have your best corner speed. Yes sometimes i use speedbreaks in a dive , especially when i see the afterburner from my oponent glowing up, to come on six Position.
Reminds me with Egypt vs Israel wars
That was tense. I\m not a good judge but the movements seemed sound.
yes very intense, especialy the last one. You can quickly learn how to shoot down a pair, but with 3 its realy fun.
the graphics damnit
4:55 holy fucking jet cram!
Do you use any graphic pack?
no , this is stock version
Who also loves Russian warplanes ?
Пассивный полет, атакующих маневров минимум, как говно в небе болтается! Отсутствуют уходы от атаки противника, не менее 3-х раз был в положении активной атаки от фантома, вот только он не атаковал почему-то, поэтому и выжил.
Download mod mig?
what kind a game is this wow I love it
www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/de/index.php
Pilot Absolut thanks
It`s very intriguing to see US warplanes from Mig`s point of view, but was it possible to shoot down two F-4 Phantom fighter jets so easily?
i am sure it is not....
probably not, but its all up to pilots as the planes are very comparable
could you please tell me what game this is
+snipereliete www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/
Goood killll!!! Hahaha someones gonna get hurt!!!
Ich glaub eine F4 hätte ausgereicht um die Mig 21 zu holen....:-D!!!!
nein glaube ich nicht ;)
what game is that ?
Digital Combat Simulator World
store.steampowered.com/app/223750/DCS_World/
Which game is this?
Hola Rodrigo, www.digitalcombatsimulator.com
From where i can buy DCS in Australia?
www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/shop/ or trough steam. DCS-World comes free with one attack plane (su25t) and a p51. all other aircraft are download modules you need to pay for.
www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/downloads/world/ here you find dcs world 1.5 for free as a download
Try fighting some Crusaders
Sorry but they are not implemented in that sim.
Pence que iban a ganar los phantom por numero
Turn and burn. Splash 3 F-4's.
Lol, good thing that’s a game.
wer did the other f-4s go they must be bots no time for that
Ace Viet Nam
:))), Mig 21 huyền thoại
The pride of the Russian Air Force.
Beeping simulator
Game name?
Jair Alberto www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/de/index.php
Thanks
Those F-4s seemed set at the lowest skill level.... Not utilizing their thrust-to-weight ratio advantage very well.
This content i have produced some years ago. AI at this point was not programmed very well and still need progress at this point today. Skill level was set on highest. But even than its easy to shoot down an F4 with some practice. And i flow this mission for a few times, wich make it much more easy for me.
mmm..that blue panel.truly soviet color.
A aéronave unimiga nem sequer faz uma manobra evasiva assim fica facil demais!
Just to let you guys know the F-4 was not a fighter, was more of a bomber for shorties,
Exactly. The F-4 was designed to be a close air support light bomber, so comparing him with the MiG is kinda senseless.
Harold The F-4 was not at all designed for any kind of bombing. It was designed as a long-range high-speed interceptor and fleet defense fighter tasked with shooting down bombers. It just so happened that it was what the Navy and Army had at the time and so it was in Vietnam where it excelled in bombing missions.
did the mig-21 ever dogfight with an f-5? The f-5 seemed like the more dangerous american aircraft.. when i visited vietnam 20 years ago they still had an f-5 on display outside the presidential palace and an huey helicopter. the f-4 looks fat and slow compared to a mig-21 that is, just by looking at them..
Sam Khoury F-5Es and older models of the MiG-21bis engaged in several dogfights during the Ogaden War (Ethiopia vs Somalia). Ethiopian F-5s shot down several MiG-21s with missiles and cannon fire. In Vietnam however, there are no recorded engagements of South Vietnamese F-5 engagements against the 21s.
warisboring.com/which-is-better-the-f-5e-tiger-ii-or-the-mig-21-e92e5c5a1ef3#.7ejtjp8ij
Sam Khoury You are correct. In close range dogfights, the F-5 is much better than the F-4. It is not as fast, but it will outmaneuver the F-4 by far. During Vietnam exercises, F-5s simulated MiG-21s during practice with the F-4s. Fun Fact: During the Blue Flag war games, we still use F-5s as aggressor squadrons to train our F-15, F-16, and I believe even our F-18 squadrons.
now replace the easy ai with real pilots lol
There's no F4 module ready for DCS to do so :( But Belsimtek has announced they will produce it. I am sure we will get a tons of videos than :D
im just saying with any plane lol, you won't be so lucky if you were fighting 3 human planes, they could be sabres or f-5s
Миг-21 сильнее!
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I'm not buying any of this ?, 3 F-4's, against 1 MiG-21, you children that play War with your video games?, have no inclination about what war is all about ?
Pfff hahaha. Mig vs 3 bots this is it.