Thanks so much for this video. I just got in my Kaldi Fortis and have watched this video so many times. I appreciate you doing this with Artisan. I know it's time-consuming but I would love more of these.
Small piece of feedback: Not sure if you did this because you were recording the video and talking through your process but typically you wouldn't want to load the hopper and then leave the beans there. The hopper and, especially, the bottom plate that prevents the coffee from chargin is going to be quite hot. You're essentially baking your beans while they sit there on top.
Excellent video. I’ve been roasting on the Hottop roster for about 17 years and I’m ready to make a change so I’m considering either the KALDI Wide or the KALDI Fortis. Pretty big difference in price. Not sure I can justify it but knowing me I’ll probably pull the trigger on the Fortis. Can you post the links to the gas valves and parts that you said you bought off of Amazon as you said you would list them but I’m not seeing them.
Thanks for sowing the process. Congrats on starting you’re own business. I’m looking at this, the bullet and another machine to start really diving in and starting a small roaster business. Glad to know it’s a workhorse. If you have any tips I’d be happy to hear them.
for me I wanted a machine that could act like a production roaster even at this size so that a lot of what you do can be transferrable to the bigger machines when I step up to that next level.
That was really interesting. I’ve never roasted before and am considering it, just for me to drink. It seems pretty complicated. Whenever I get into something I jump right in and generally want to start with some quality equipment. Personally I’d want to skip popcorn poppers and shake and bake style and would want to get some sort of drum roaster. And I’d want to use Artisan to measure/graph the roasts to try be able to produce a consistent roast. I just wonder if it is all worth the bother or or I should just keep buying specialty coffee
I just got a fresh roast 800, FR800, and I I have roasted about 10 times. I feel the rate of rise is all over the place. The coffee that I have been roasting turns out decent, and I don't notice anything crazy awful about it. But my RoR will spike up or down at times. Your rate of rise curve is so smooth, and not as erratic. Maybe that is all the difference between gas and electric?
Man this is WAY more hands-on than the dabbling into home-roasting I did back in the day. Very cool, thanks for the peak behind the curtain. PS, can't help but notice the BGE's in the background!
Hi there! Great video!! I’m looking at the same roaster for my first purchase. Can you tell me, did Kaldi recommend doing “seasoning” roasts when you first use it? If so, how many times before production roast?
I've been roasting since covid shut down last spring in a bread machine and heat gun. I have people buying from me every week im thinking about building a 6 lb drum roaster so
Thank you for the video and the roast along. I am wondering may I have a link where to get the bras parts and the dial pressure gauge in Amazon? Thank you!
This is very helpful. Great to see a roast along with a Fortis, which I'll be using soon. Do you have tasting notes for us from this roast? Almost a year ago now.. I'd be impressed if you did!
Unfortunately I didn't write any notes down but if I remember correcting I did get a lot of the browned butter notes coming through. I kept it light so it was fairly tea-like with a nice caramelized sugar sweetness to it. Very easy to drink!
Thanks for this video, it's really help solidify my decision to purchase the Kaldi Fortis. I was considering getting the cyclone chaff collector as well. From your experience, is this chaff/cooler system good enough? I was even thinking of paying for the cyclone and then using a homemade bean cooler using a similar steel rimmed sieve and exhaust fan. What would you recommend?
I would say that the fan/cooler are more than sufficient to provide good airflow and cooling capabilities for each batch. The dial is 0-9 and I rarely need to go past 2 until almost drop. I guess it would be nice to have a cyclone chaff collector but I don't mind dumping the chaff into a bucket after each roast. Not sure how much they want for it but it may not be worth it, depending on what your budget is.
@@DerbyCoffeeRoasters I got my Kaldi setup and pretty much replicated your burner setup. when open up the gas, the Dwyer gauge doesn't read anything. also using the needle valve, turning the knob relatively slightly opens up the gas too far to where the flame is unsustainable. Any recommendations?
I have been growing coffee at an elevation of 10 feet (PNW), I have 60+ beans from my first ever harvest. How long does it take to dry the beans before roasting? I got a Cafemasy Air roaster.
Wow, that's awesome! Very interesting and fun I'm sure. I'm no expert on that side of coffee but from everything I'm reading it should take anywhere from a few days to a few weeks. Best of luck!
Hi there! I have a Kaldi Fortis too, but instead of buying the cooling/chaff colector/ airflow controler XD I made one with a ciclone and a centrifugal fan so I cannot mimic my air settings, but i do wish some info, what settings do you have on Artisan? what gas pressures did you applied through the roast? in terms of potency (not numbers) how strong would you say the air setting is at 2 (for example) Im asking because for some reason, no matter what I do, no matter the setting, the moment the BT curve hit 200 c it always, always stop (which make the RoR crash so bad) and then immediately go up but in a erratic weird way!
hey there! for artisan settings I just went to config -> machine -> Kaldi fortis and use the standard setting. The fan is very powerful and a 2 setting is almost enough for the whole roast except for cooling. I start at 1 for the soak period and move to 1.5.
@@DerbyCoffeeRoasters Hi man! Thanks for the response, I found the culprid in my weird readings, it's the Center 306, after it gets to 200 c the accuracy changes and is a mess, I ordered a Phidget and hope to have more accurate readings!
basically out of the vent where the hopper is. I'm not sure what is sent if you don't buy the cooler but you'd have to direct the air and chaff somewhere.
Derby Coffee Roasters: I am looking to get one of these. Only can find on EBay with S. Korean sellers (direct). They claim the price includes unit plus expedited shipping to US. However, we have to pay Customs Duty, taxes and import fees. How did you get yours? What is the US Customs Duty amount? And did you use an import broker or the US Postal Service to pay Duty, Tax and fees? Any information estimates would be greatly appreciated by all wanting to purchase the Kaldi Fortis. (I have a Kaldi Wide. It is a workhorse but very analog. And smoke control is a challenge.)
hmm, when i bought mine i didnt have to worry ab any of that. paid through ebay and it took a week to come to my door. let me check back find something helpful for you.
@@DerbyCoffeeRoasters Indeed. That is the Ebay listing I am following. The shipping details state the buyer is responsible for custom duty, taxes and fees. The seller only handles sale and shipping. If custom duty and fees are not paid, the roaster is seized by US Custom and Border Protection. Who did you use as the import broker to clear US Customs?
I bought the updated Fortis on Ebay. Seller in Goyang had difficulty with Covid19 shipping and stock. Finally sorted, roaster shipped on a Thursday at noon and arrived in Ohio 8 am Friday. Nice upgrade from my Kaldi Wide. Still having issues getting connected with Artisan because the drivers shipped are too old. Tried Silabs, downloaded v10 but Win10 is still not cooperating. BTW, you don't need to remove the chaff tray at end, just stack on the cooling tray and dump beans. More chaff will be removed from beans as they cool. Thanks for the info.
Great video buddy! I can't wait to roast on one of these one day! Sweet little set up too!
Thanks Rob!! Appreciate you watching.
Great teaching video. Nice to find real coffee lover people sharing their own experience.
Thanks so much!!
Thanks so much for this video. I just got in my Kaldi Fortis and have watched this video so many times. I appreciate you doing this with Artisan. I know it's time-consuming but I would love more of these.
Tyler Smith thanks! So glad it was helpful
Exactly what I needed to know!
Charge weight was 515g. Ending weight was 447g. 13.2% weight loss.
You ate 2 beans 🙃Thanks for a great video!
Small piece of feedback: Not sure if you did this because you were recording the video and talking through your process but typically you wouldn't want to load the hopper and then leave the beans there. The hopper and, especially, the bottom plate that prevents the coffee from chargin is going to be quite hot. You're essentially baking your beans while they sit there on top.
HatOnA Fox you are correct! Not a habit and definitely bc I was trying to multitask. Thanks for the feedback!
@@DerbyCoffeeRoasters Keep making great coffee and CZcams videos. Not enough people are making videos on coffee roasting.
On a natural process along with the altitude of the bean, one can expect a hard bean to crack. 😂 appreciate the video.
Excellent video. I’ve been roasting on the Hottop roster for about 17 years and I’m ready to make a change so I’m considering either the KALDI Wide or the KALDI Fortis.
Pretty big difference in price. Not sure I can justify it but knowing me I’ll probably pull the trigger on the Fortis.
Can you post the links to the gas valves and parts that you said you bought off of Amazon as you said you would list them but I’m not seeing them.
Thanks for sowing the process. Congrats on starting you’re own business. I’m looking at this, the bullet and another machine to start really diving in and starting a small roaster business. Glad to know it’s a workhorse. If you have any tips I’d be happy to hear them.
for me I wanted a machine that could act like a production roaster even at this size so that a lot of what you do can be transferrable to the bigger machines when I step up to that next level.
Thanks for the great and educational video. It's going to push me over the fence into getting the Fortis.
Good choice! You won't regret it!
Did you get one?
I just got some el Salvador from bodhi leaf
@@Stevesbe Yes, I love it.
Thanks for reviewing your experience ❤️
Asking which gas stove burner fitted with it , thanks
That was really interesting. I’ve never roasted before and am considering it, just for me to drink. It seems pretty complicated. Whenever I get into something I jump right in and generally want to start with some quality equipment. Personally I’d want to skip popcorn poppers and shake and bake style and would want to get some sort of drum roaster. And I’d want to use Artisan to measure/graph the roasts to try be able to produce a consistent roast. I just wonder if it is all worth the bother or or I should just keep buying specialty coffee
I just got a fresh roast 800, FR800, and I I have roasted about 10 times. I feel the rate of rise is all over the place. The coffee that I have been roasting turns out decent, and I don't notice anything crazy awful about it. But my RoR will spike up or down at times. Your rate of rise curve is so smooth, and not as erratic. Maybe that is all the difference between gas and electric?
Not sure as I don’t have any experience with those types of roasters. Could be many thing like probes and placement of probes.
Man this is WAY more hands-on than the dabbling into home-roasting I did back in the day. Very cool, thanks for the peak behind the curtain. PS, can't help but notice the BGE's in the background!
Thanks for noticing but those are knock off's from Costco! They're awesome though.
"by no means a professional"
(Owns a coffee roasting company.)
Lol love the video btw. Im looking to upgrade from my Behmor.
Hi there! Great video!! I’m looking at the same roaster for my first purchase. Can you tell me, did Kaldi recommend doing “seasoning” roasts when you first use it? If so, how many times before production roast?
I've been roasting since covid shut down last spring in a bread machine and heat gun. I have people buying from me every week im thinking about building a 6 lb drum roaster so
Go for it!
Great video. How in the world in the "Bean Temperature" taken?
Thank you for the video and the roast along. I am wondering may I have a link where to get the bras parts and the dial pressure gauge in Amazon? Thank you!
This is very helpful. Great to see a roast along with a Fortis, which I'll be using soon. Do you have tasting notes for us from this roast? Almost a year ago now.. I'd be impressed if you did!
Unfortunately I didn't write any notes down but if I remember correcting I did get a lot of the browned butter notes coming through. I kept it light so it was fairly tea-like with a nice caramelized sugar sweetness to it. Very easy to drink!
Does it come with the burner?
2:10 "Rent Time". Definitely not "roast time"
Thanks for this video, it's really help solidify my decision to purchase the Kaldi Fortis. I was considering getting the cyclone chaff collector as well. From your experience, is this chaff/cooler system good enough? I was even thinking of paying for the cyclone and then using a homemade bean cooler using a similar steel rimmed sieve and exhaust fan.
What would you recommend?
I would say that the fan/cooler are more than sufficient to provide good airflow and cooling capabilities for each batch. The dial is 0-9 and I rarely need to go past 2 until almost drop. I guess it would be nice to have a cyclone chaff collector but I don't mind dumping the chaff into a bucket after each roast. Not sure how much they want for it but it may not be worth it, depending on what your budget is.
@@DerbyCoffeeRoasters I got my Kaldi setup and pretty much replicated your burner setup. when open up the gas, the Dwyer gauge doesn't read anything. also using the needle valve, turning the knob relatively slightly opens up the gas too far to where the flame is unsustainable. Any recommendations?
I have been growing coffee at an elevation of 10 feet (PNW), I have 60+ beans from my first ever harvest. How long does it take to dry the beans before roasting? I got a Cafemasy Air roaster.
Wow, that's awesome! Very interesting and fun I'm sure. I'm no expert on that side of coffee but from everything I'm reading it should take anywhere from a few days to a few weeks. Best of luck!
Can you provide the items and links for your burner setup including the hose, connections/fittings, gauge and pressure adjustment dial. Thanks.
Most of that is in other comments already.
great vid. thx man!
Thanks for watching!
Eyyy! Nice setup sir!
Thanks man!
Gread vid! Did you open the bottom hatch for the direct heat on the drum?
So my version didn't come with that option it's basically a piece of steel covering most of the bottom of the drum.
How much gas does this use, meaning how many roasts do you think you can get per 20lb propane tank?
a lot!
Very light roast,how do you drink it? Drip?
Yes I tend to roast pretty light. I mainly use pour over style brewers but like the aeropress as well.
Could you share the links to your complete burner setup?
Nice video buddy. Not sure if you know what’s the minimum charge bean weight. Can it roast say 200 or even 150g?
Good question. I'll be honest, I haven't tried to charge that low but I imagine you could get decent results.
What propane burner do you have for the kaldi roaster?
Hi there! I have a Kaldi Fortis too, but instead of buying the cooling/chaff colector/ airflow controler XD I made one with a ciclone and a centrifugal fan so I cannot mimic my air settings, but i do wish some info, what settings do you have on Artisan? what gas pressures did you applied through the roast? in terms of potency (not numbers) how strong would you say the air setting is at 2 (for example) Im asking because for some reason, no matter what I do, no matter the setting, the moment the BT curve hit 200 c it always, always stop (which make the RoR crash so bad) and then immediately go up but in a erratic weird way!
hey there! for artisan settings I just went to config -> machine -> Kaldi fortis and use the standard setting. The fan is very powerful and a 2 setting is almost enough for the whole roast except for cooling. I start at 1 for the soak period and move to 1.5.
@@DerbyCoffeeRoasters Hi man! Thanks for the response, I found the culprid in my weird readings, it's the Center 306, after it gets to 200 c the accuracy changes and is a mess, I ordered a Phidget and hope to have more accurate readings!
Thanks for the video, I have one kaldi fortis, and 2 kaldi new wide, with DIY airflow :)... I've got a question, where did you buy that stove?
m hudioro www.bbqguys.com/cajun-cookware/1-burner-low-pressure-propane-gas-burner-and-stove-gl561
Where did you buy the Kaldi New Wide? And how long did it take until shipped?
very helpful!!!!!!
do you still have those links?
I picked up one these kaldi roasters to use until i needed something bigger
Hey man any tips on cleaning probes drum ect
Hooked up to artisan? How'd you do it?
Wow what a nice even roast
Are you able to connect the center 306 thermometer directly to your pc via USB and have Artisan detect it?
I'm pretty sure you can. This might help you out. artisan-scope.org/devices/meters/
I’m going to stick to drinking it and leave the roasting to you!😅
Sounds like a plan!
What was the fidget/gadget that you used to connect the thermocouples to the laptop/artisan software ?
Ravi Kanth phidget 1048
How did you connect the temperature sensor wires to the phidget? my model comes with cassette end connectors. Did yours? Did you cut them off?
I looked more closely at the video. got my answer. Thanks for all the info.
Yep, cut them off and attached to the phidget until I got the readings I needed in Artisan.
If you don’t buy the chaff collector/cooler to go along with it, where does the chaff go?
basically out of the vent where the hopper is. I'm not sure what is sent if you don't buy the cooler but you'd have to direct the air and chaff somewhere.
I gotta try this thing out
He's yummy! I'm subscribing!
Can you use this back to back? Say if I want to roast 10lbs a day
For sure! I can do 10lbs in about 3 hrs or so.
@@DerbyCoffeeRoasters thank you! love your content btw
Where did you buy your roaster?
Edwin Recinos eBay
Derby Coffee Roasters thank you
Derby Coffee Roasters: I am looking to get one of these. Only can find on EBay with S. Korean sellers (direct). They claim the price includes unit plus expedited shipping to US. However, we have to pay Customs Duty, taxes and import fees. How did you get yours? What is the US Customs Duty amount? And did you use an import broker or the US Postal Service to pay Duty, Tax and fees? Any information estimates would be greatly appreciated by all wanting to purchase the Kaldi Fortis. (I have a Kaldi Wide. It is a workhorse but very analog. And smoke control is a challenge.)
hmm, when i bought mine i didnt have to worry ab any of that. paid through ebay and it took a week to come to my door. let me check back find something helpful for you.
www.ebay.com/itm/Kaldi-Fortis-Coffee-Bean-Roaster-Professional-Tool-chaff-collector-Cooler/152648548873?var=453263928446&hash=item238a900209:g:q1gAAOSwP8ldpp9O
this is the seller I purchased from
@@DerbyCoffeeRoasters Indeed. That is the Ebay listing I am following. The shipping details state the buyer is responsible for custom duty, taxes and fees. The seller only handles sale and shipping. If custom duty and fees are not paid, the roaster is seized by US Custom and Border Protection. Who did you use as the import broker to clear US Customs?
I bought the updated Fortis on Ebay. Seller in Goyang had difficulty with Covid19 shipping and stock. Finally sorted, roaster shipped on a Thursday at noon and arrived in Ohio 8 am Friday. Nice upgrade from my Kaldi Wide. Still having issues getting connected with Artisan because the drivers shipped are too old. Tried Silabs, downloaded v10 but Win10 is still not cooperating. BTW, you don't need to remove the chaff tray at end, just stack on the cooling tray and dump beans. More chaff will be removed from beans as they cool. Thanks for the info.
hey can you share the link for the exact gas connections and gauges, i saw the burner link already.
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This model suitable for business?
Very much for the start but you will quickly outgrow it as new business comes in.
@@DerbyCoffeeRoasters tq
Excute me what Program that you use with tempsensor ? THANK YOU
Hey there! I'm using Artisan. artisan-scope.org/
Thank for answers bro.
What’s the curve? Is it drums temp, bean temp or turning point ?
Blue line going up is Bean Temp. Red line going up is air temp and blue line going down is rate of rise.
Derby Coffee Roasters when you say the curve, it’s the curve it’s creates when them temp goes up till you finish your Roast?
@@MiSargentoSV I think I was referring to the rate of rise. The blue line going down.
Derby Coffee Roasters thank you. I want to get into roasting and I’m trying to make sense out of this chart.
Edwin Recinos this might help. perfectdailygrind.com/2016/02/the-s-curve-roast-profile-exploring-roasting-basics/
What burner are you using?
www.bbqguys.com/cajun-cookware/1-burner-low-pressure-propane-gas-burner-and-stove-gl561
What size thermal coupler do you use
Sorry, I don't know the sizes of the thermocouples.
Kaldi comes with 3mm thermocouples
How much was the set up?
steve beuchert around $2300