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When you’re kickin in doors and assaulting “bad guys”, you have 2 things:
1 your team
2 your training
Yup
Why is it so hard for people to understand that Special Forces are going to the most hostile, savage environment, to face highly motivated enemy combatants that wish to extinguish their existence with extreme prejudice and without any regard to how they extinguish it. Much respect to anyone who chooses to take on that challenge. You are trying to help them Jake!
Absolutely
Special ops
Yeah cause have u seen the Army, Navy, Airforce's recuiting ad. Everybody over there just concerned with the "feelings, emotions, and politcal correctness/wokeness" than actual tactics, drill, mindset, and troop movement. 1st SFOD-D is about to be the new LGBT-Q. God please help America
@@TheGhostOfMichaelJackson Huh? They're all under Socom
@@tek3920 Omg 2 women carpet munching got you in your feelings?
The truth hurts! I've been in the Navy for 24 years and the decline in toughness of our Sailors extends well beyond BUD/S. Keep keepin it real my dude!
Booooooom
That’s a reflection of leadership.
@@LilSebastian_ YES IT IS
The same thing applies for paratroopers, Rangers (both the school and the regiments), air assault. etc, etc. In large part I blame politicians who prey on articles like this one for their own misguided political agendas. War is not a football game, it is war and there are not any time outs. AATW.
Men in skinny jeans....plucked eye brows....selfies....and...."What about my needs"
Nobody is forced to become a Navy seal. They are there by choice.
In my 20 years of service and multiple combat deployments in both the USMC and then USA, I knew guys who used PEDs. In my eyes, those guys were weak because they became dependent on that stuff, and they would never properly cycle off that stuff because they feared that their performance would drop. And then there were the complications from using them as well; prone to dehydration and ligament damage. Deployments made it worse for them and it put our missions, themselves, and everyone at risk. If you think you need PEDs, you’re lacking in mental fortitude and therefore a weak minded individual. I never touched that stuff, but I also worked my ass off. Running/cardio sometimes with a rucksack (60min or more), rucking (5 to 26 miles), swimming (60 min or more), weights and calisthenics. I worked out multiple times a day, 6 days a week. The guys who did PEDs thought I was crazy, but in reality, they were lazy and didn’t want to put in the work. No, I wasn’t a physical specimen or a stud, but everyone had no issues that I could do the job every time, all the time, anytime, because of my job I had the carry the heaviest loads and had no issues keeping up or maneuvering on missions. War is not for the weak. Second place gets you dead.
MILLION DOLLAR COMMENT THANK YOU @@@FIRE
"'FNG'1975" is a great account-name.
Word
Facts!
You probably had strong genetics that pl the ped guys didn't
Spot on. Need more retired/veteran leaders to speak on individual accountability because the ones on active duty are not supporting us warfighters on maintaining the standards. “The A train don’t stop for pain!”
NO IT DOES NOT
I served in the Marines & Army & did plenty of training exercises where people died. What people don’t realize is that there’s a number of expected deaths during all long term training missions. The goal is to mitigate those deaths on one hand or ensure you don’t go over the expected death toll. It’s the military so death is a part of everything you do.
Jake, that was a pretty awesome review! I'm originally from Coronado, my Dad was a 26 year career submariner, my grandfather was a career navy doctor as was his number two son, my uncle Pat. I left to finish college in the early 1980's and knew several SEALs from Team One there in Coronado. One went on to be a plank owner of SEAL team 6/DEVGRU. My point is this; your assessment of what it's like in the SEAL training environment is spot on. Many guy are KIT, Killed in Training, just like Air Force student pilots and Naval aviators are killed in training as well. I do think that there is still a huge risk for guys serving in the teams, even in peacetime. You guys are doing HALO/HAHO, SDV dives, CQT with live ammo, etc. It's a tough way to make a living, but worth it. I was an AFSOC pilot in the 80's/90's flying gunships. We lost some guys too. It happens and you have to make allowances for it and understand the level of risk and danger required to get the training to be able to do the job. Again, great article review, I agreed with everything you pointed out. Well done.
Thank you man !!!!! Thank your family for there service
I was in the Special Operations community for several years in the Army, everything that Jake speaks is truth. Being an athlete means nothing, having a strong mind is everything. You will be put in situations where you can rely on your team, but understand when common sense takes over.
TELL US HOW IT IS JAKE!
Funny how one of the most dangerous jobs available is constantly under scrutiny for being “too difficult…”
I appreciate your insight on the topic. Keep it real for us.
Man this guy Jake is the most blunt, truthful no bs man i have heard. What a service he is doing for the young men who are thinking about this. Countering the fucking bullshit wannabe social media “spec ops” fanboy culture. Being an “athlete” is not enough and not even a pre-requisite. Mental toughness, of course. But also a tough, rugged, durable physiology. It is indeed in the genes, in how your joints and ligaments work, how your lungs function, oxygen utilization, hemoglobin levels, etc. Dont go if your body isn’t durable. If you do go, know your own body and the line between no quit and grit and holy shit I’m about to die.
BLOW THE LINES UP!!!!!!! Fire 🔥 ass comment!!!
Listen to Jake he knows his stuff. He’s a great man! My uncle is a retired Navy seal LCDR seal teams five and seal delivery team 2. he graduated from Bud’s class 156 and he transferred from the Marine Corps. His name is Tony or Anthony O’Brien but class 156. He is now the Plymouth county sheriff, and enjoying life. He’s doing well. I don’t know the type of relationship he had with Jake. I haven’t asked him.
I grew up in Massachusetts and my uncle was always teaching us how to go through adversity even before he was a navy seal. He toughened us up. That’s for sure, but he made things a little bit easier by one statement he always told us. And he did the same during buds. He said “what made me go through bud especially Hell we was not thinking about the future, but rather what was right in front of me. Nothing else mattered”. He then taught us that pain, and adversity will make pleasure even better so the higher the pain threshold and adversity the better the future pleasure. He told me that he had massive lesions on his thighs from the saltwater and under chafe from salt and sand.
If they weaken the training, then SEALs will die in the field. I agree with your assessment. This is insane. This WOKE nonsense is out of control. Thanks for the TRUTH. Be well.
Will not happen
Awesome job Jake. The article I read on this you should have seen the comments below the article. Everyone blaming others not realizing how hard this training is.
Stupid it was his choice
Don't ever forget this....
Culture eats strategy & tactics for breakfast!!
All the Best👊
RP
"I'd rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6 anyday" That's the coolest statement I've heard in a while. Thank you for your help with things - your workout plan pdf made everything simple as hell for me.
Here's an interesting stat :30 NCAA football players have died during workouts since 2000. That's almost 3 times the number of BUDS students and a third of the time.
Thanks for the facts !!!!!
True but at any given year, there around 70,000 NCAA football players throughout all divisions
Yeah, but that's put of 1.6 million college football players during that time span.
Seals more than likely had maybe 12,000 candidates during that time.
I like my odds better playing college football.
The whole situation reminds me of the quote from a "few good men" during the "you can't handle the truth scene"
"I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom that I provide and then questions the manner in which I provide it."
Yup 100000000% 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥
Dammit. You beat me to it. I said exact same thing.
We all seen the fvcking movie captain obvious. Grow a pair and say the fvcking quote. Stop fvcking apologizing through life.
Facts intact !
That is a fine Sorkin quote but does not take into account the heightened brutality of the instructors nor the removal of the retired seal observers and finally the breakdown of the final stage of hell week which is the observation after the men pass. No roommate? No medical observation? There was a breakdown of procedure.
I can't argue with BUDS training. Keep it difficult. Tough operations need tough soldiers.
But you pretty much gloss over the "grossly negligent" part. Just because a guy won't quit, they let him die? They let a fellow member of the American military die for no good reason? Is there no procedure in place to keep constant medical watch over what is admittedly the most brutal training in the military? "Grossly negligent" is an understatement.
It's not Hell Week or the training that needs to change. It's the command and the medical oversight. No American serviceman should die like this, drugs or not.
There are med checks quite often prior to, throughout, and post hell week. The medical oversight in this training is well thought out. Please do not think they let guys go until they die because this is not the case. They let guys go until they quit, they make it, or they must be pulled from training to prevent further harm to themselves and others.
@@andreww6543 What you say is contradicted by what happened to this poor guy.
Nowadays it seems to be a fad to make these great institutions seem evil. Ppl want the whole world to be soft. Thank you for reviewing this article 💥
GIRLS need something to talk about
Well, it seems that 75% of our society is “soft” which makes sense👌🏽🤙🏼
Jocko said the same thing. He said BUD/S was kindergarten.
If you have never served you shouldn't have a say in how training is done.
People die in training,it happens......the public and recruiting efforts have brought the capability of military by interfering in how training goes down
Williams B.D. here from 217, what’s up brother. Still laying down the hard truth i see. I will attest to you having a special bud/s experience. Of course during hell week when i watched you grab that charged inch and three quarter fire hose laying on the grinder and spraying down the seal instructors - that was some fired up shit. That kinda played a big part into your special treatment. Take care sir, good times/Great memories - Hope you’re doing well. Love ya brother!! Ps - love your top shot and dude youre screwed episodes.
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@@jakezweighey big dog you might wanna get your digits out the comments. Loving the videos tho
@@tylergreenburg2489 NFG
Used my dads favorite quote. “Pussification of America”
@Sjdjs Ksjsjsjsks what
Men in skinny jeans....plucked eye brows....selfies....and...."What about my needs"
Jake thanks for calling it what it is, I appreciate your service and the continuing perspective and content .
Ms. Mullen, Ma’am thank you and your family for serving this GREAT country.
Paddle out-
Death is sad, agreed. The standards in BUDS needs to be kept or even raised. These young soldiers will be called upon to war and put into situations in which they need to be pushed beyond in BUDS. If not, then in war when called upon they will fail do to lack of preparedness. Which is an even worse outcome knowing they could have been trained in BUDS. To survive/overcome in war, families and Auditors need to stay out of oversight of training these young recruits, all they are going to do is get more soldiers killed by making them soft. War is tough, our soldiers need to be tougher. Trust me, our enemies are training harder hoping our young soldiers get softer. Love your content Jake!!!
Buds training has been raised people don’t realize how competitive it is now 😂 almost everyone in a class is physically able to complete buds, if they don’t want you to graduate they will find a way to get you to quit. Not only is getting an officer billet super rare now but even going enlisted is super hard, lots of guys drop out in the prep school now. It’s 99 percent mental if you show up prepared.
Thank you for addressing this. I saw the article and was hoping someone from the Teams would speak on it.
“Ended up manning a snack counter at a distant base.”
Ouch. Why punish them though? Why not put them in a job commensurate with their ASVAB score and work history?
If we just discard them it’s not serving the military needs long term.
You're right Jake, if you have to drug up to get through BUDS you're heading up a slippery slope. When BUDS is over do you still drug up? when does it stop.
When does it stop
@@jakezweig Pretty hard to trust your team mate when he's doped up. Some bad voodoo.
@@randy464 yah man savages going to be savages
Steroids in the military is nothing new. If you’re not cheating you’re not trying
This is Gladiator school
Buds or any specialized training (Ranger/ Green Beret/ PJ's/ Rescue Swimmer/ Navy Divers/ Aircrew) should never be made easier. Training is tough for a reason. SEALS and all specialized groups have to be able to do the impossible. You can't do that if your training is made easier. If you're in the middle of the ocean on a black night and you're faced with an impossible situation, it's that tough training that gets you through that impossibility. At least I think so.
100%
@@NA-gf1zy the normal person can not handle the Brutally of the job
@@jakezweigFac🎉ts. Too much glorified Call of Duty fantasy crap lol.
the thing that pisses me off is when someones son or daughter joins the military the parents are so proud of their kid bragging to everyone about it, but when their kid dies in service be it in training or combat they lose that pride and want answers. when me and my brothers joined my dad also a veteran told us we could die, we were okay with it and so was he. by the way to much credit given to a NY reporter who probably couldn't even make it in the cub scouts.
Absolutely 💯 I sent him a message
I thought the exact same thing. Some limp resisted dude or dudette who has never had to struggle talking about shit they can't comprehend. Savages are bad.... Until they're in a situation where they call 911..... Then want a savage showing up and taking care of shit.
Bruh kept it 💯. May God bring peace to the young man and his family. This training is as tough as it needs to be. Don't lower the standard. These are the men we are sending in to do some of the harshest operations in the world. Cutting corners wont do them any favors. The fact ge didn't quit shows the level of determination and grit he had. I just wish he would have known the line and gotten help before it was too late.
Finally someone with some reality for the internet. The military is not for the faint at heart. BUDS and SEAL training is for the 1% of that 1% who decided to serve. I was never one of those guys lol.
TOUGH LOVE
If you look at all the Navy seals in the last 53 years that have gone through training and take the same number of any other profession in the civilian world you're going to find 11 deaths related to the profession or getting to work whatever the case may be
Jake! You got me with some of your comments. Thanks, brother. Keep telling it like it is.
I was a Marine...I graduated bootcamp in 02...By the end of my enlistment...The training and Caliber of people took a noticeably different type of change. America became soft...I had instructors and seniors NCO's from the early 90's. The first group of Marines we got thrown into our unit were lazy...Not all...But most...entitlement is the word ill use...1% of Americans will go to the Military...Even a smaller percentage goes into combat arms...We need these men strong...they need hard training...If they don't train hard...then they won't fight hard in war. Keep politics and personal feelings out of the decisions made by the people who have been conducting war for centuries. It has to be a certian way...thats just how it has to work. War is nasty...and we have to have an edge for that nastiness...If you want to join a combat arms billet...expect to be put out of your comfort zone. It's just how the business works...if you are built for it you will be ok. If your soft and worry about harm being done to you...Just dont go to the military...Any Inkling that you may not be able to do it, or it may not be for you...dont sign the dotted line...
FIRE COMMENT OF THE DAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Great review!! Our country is getting Soft and want to blame everyone and everything else for our shortcomings
Good thing is nobody reads the NYT
The country is turning into Amerikaren
I agree with you jake 1000 percent. The problem with this younger generation is there just soft. They aren’t made to go outside and chop wood or do any physical labor and there not even held for there actions. What has happened is children have never change only the parents have. They play video games all day and Jesus when they ride bikes they have to wear a f-ing helmet 🪖 my god if we cracked are head while riding bikes my parents would bust my a$$ and tell me how stupid I was. It’s gotten so bad we have to put warning labels on every dam thing even f-ing coffee so these idiots know it’s hot it’s coffee no shit it’s hot. In my opinion let’s do away with all these warnings labels and let humanity weed out the stupid and soft ones. Sorry for the rant.
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Yo Jake, Viagra was developed to treat pulmonary hypertension. One of the side effects was enhanced sexual function. SEAL candidates weren’t taking it for the latter.
They were taking viagra to help prevent pulmonary edema. It actually makes sense why they did this.
No it makes no sense to take anything
Great article although i was never in special forces and just a joe in the Airborne Infantry but this is the facts jack. Only certain people are built for a task like that.
Yep.
H-MINUS
So, they want the men they're going to send on ops that will push them to the very limits of what a human can withstand, to go through a course that won't push them close to those limits? That's stupidity on a level that I can't comprehend.
Man! I loved your take. I graduated Pararescue Indoc. Brutal is required. The instructors are going to be working with you in two years. They don’t want any pussies going through or slipping through. We were all cold we’re all tired we were all shot. Five men graduated out of 54 starting. End of discussion. We went through Fort Benning Georgia with a group of Seal trainees. We had a shit load of fun.
Absolutely !!!!!!
The CZcams channel I didn't know I needed but glad I found
I love this guy. He’s not politically correct,he’s just straight up correct! We are neutering our military and it will be the death of America if we don’t get rid of all this pc crap. I felt like I spent more time in sharp training and equal opportunity courses than learning how to do my actual job at times.
Yes sir
Rest in Peace Seaman Mullen and Thank You for your service to our country.
I hope everyone that looks to join any specialized warfare units takes video's like this to heart. I had Weak genes back in 1990 going through PJ Indoc. Nearly completed that 10weeks of hell! Was the last of my class to wash. Hobbled my weak gene ass to Flight Surgeon, went to bone scan and had a cracked femoral neck from all the physical activities, the other bones that lit up like a Christmas tree were not of concern but no setback for that one. We had guys breaking clavicle's during pushup sessions etc. It was no picnic. I personally have had shallow water black out and close to wizard more than once during water sessions. Holding your breath on your own accord until you pass out all while knowing and having the option of taking a breath right about you and choosing to stay down anyway. It is a test! All of that torturer was of my own discission making, quitting is an option. Just not if you want to be the toughest and best in the industry of choice. That is the type of mind set needed along with good physical genes.
What the article doesn't go into is the countless numbers of people that intense of training has saved! Yes holding my breath until I could pass out and knowing how to do that without panic saved MY LIFE. After exiting the AF I became a career firefighter. On the second story of a large active house fire I had an air pack malfunction. With 0 warning while working hard, hot and elevated heart rate regulator stopped flowing. It took 100% of my happy place while gupping for air to make it outside without panicking. I was almost wizard ready while exiting but made it. No buddy breathing connections back then. LOL
I have 100% confidence that Buds, PJ Indoc, Ranger School and all other special tactic classes as hard as they are and as many lives as they take during training pipelines and thorough their careers save WAY more lives doing their work than can be measured. Hell it saved my ass in civilian world. Thank you for Keeping it real. KEEP Special selections HARD! Too HARD FOR MOST.
Thank you for that awesome comment man
"You can try out for this unit. You also need to realize you will either come back with a medal, in a body bag, or probably both." SFOD-D foldable cardboard ad on the chow hall table in Old Division, 2005.
Facts
“Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times.” -G. Michael Hopf
MILLION DOLLARS
I had a Navy Corpsman tell me everyone he knew that made it thru FIRST PHASE was Juicing.
That put me off. 40 candidates!?!?!?!
I can't believe they werent tested for this garbage.
The test are expensive. It’s different from the drug test that test for narcotics.
To me, former and currently active Navy SEALs are the best (and should be the only) judges on whether or not BUDS training should change. As yet I have not heard one single SEAL who has suggested any changes to BUDS. SEALs univerally and emphatically say, "the standard must be maintained". By the way Jake, your assessment of the growing American gutlessness is 100% correct. We have slowly and intentionally developed (over time) a squishy soft society where hard work and danger MUST BE factored out. Expecting excellence via hard work (struggle) has become a kind of joke.
Yup when it comes things will change
I thought I was the only one that says "the pussifacation of America" lol, I am glad I stumbled on Jake's channel today, new subscriber.
LETS GO KEITH >>>>>>>> NO RESPONSIBLE FOR PEOPLES FEELING WHEN DEALING WITH THE TRUTH
We have a government now that awards laziness and cutting corners and punishes those who work hard and thrive
Spot on sir, I believe and I told my own kids “YOU HAVE TO BE HAZED IN” if you ain’t hazed in and take the easy way, if you ain’t paid the price, sooner or later it’s going to show and you will be FOUND!! Thanks for the review of this article. PEACE!!
Send it
absolutely agree. My mom told me to be home by sunset and I was always in the woods. I think the training we had won't be possible today and I`m young now I`m retired, active duty 83/08
1000%
Great Video and true perspective. 21 years Military. If it's too hard, quit! Being extremely difficult is what it takes to create the people needed to do the job. Outsiders think their uneducated opinions matter. THEY DON'T!
Wolves dont talk to the sheep
Awesome coverage and Clarity. Sometimes you gotta call a spade a spade! Semper Fi, Do or Die! 💯
What a review. You really put it out there calling out the BS and keep it RAW. Slick made me feel like a pussy and opened it up to how real those boys and girls have it. You really did more for the public and shaving out the BS. Hope The NY Times claps back
never knew ol jake could use Occam's razor with such precision.
@@siggifreud812 Sled Hammer
"He had weak genes..."
Yo, this is GREAT.
So good to hear someone tell it like it is and not sugar coat everything. KEEP DOING YOU!
He was killed by bacterial pneumonia because he didn’t receive intravenous antibiotics. I finished with horrible pneumonia but they gave me antibiotics and I was fine hours later. Medical failed and killed him.
@@taylorkerr4415 I didn't mean it to come off sounding so insensitive. I know that's someone's son and I'm sure like you said maybe with better care he could've been saved. I was referring more to how refreshing it is to hear someone speak without this fear of 'offending' anyone. It's just kinda rare these days and I appreciate it.
YOOOOO Jake I’m a fan bro. Whats up with a podcast? You bring a whole different flavor to the Special Warfare Community culture and your funny as ish😂😂😂😂.
Only met 3 seals in my life. One was mentally messed up from that Asian guy...Two other guys I know one got hurt and tried for 3 years doing their dive motivators where he was stationed and went back to pass hell week..and completed his training. I've met so many BUDS DUDS because they send them back to big navy as Military Police. The other guy I knew when I was reserves would finish his mile and a half in about 7min turn around and run with the stragglers like it was nothing. He was the best runner out of about 400 sailors at our reserve center. When I saw him with his trident on facebook i asked him how it was and he said he's just glad he didn't get injured in training..
I agree with most of this, but Mullen died due to medical incompetency, lets' 's be real here. 24-year-olds barely know their ass from their elbow in medical terms. They are going into Buds with the mentality of dying for the cause but expecting veteran instructors and seasoned medical staff to stop that from happening. He pushed himself beyond his limit, weak genes or not, and its up to people with the medical knowledge to spot the physical deterioration and do their job. Accidents will always happen but this was negligence. A bunch of 35/40-year-old combat veterans/instructors and medical staff did not have the situational awareness to keep an eye on him, and then expected an 18-year-old roommate, who also doesn't know his ass from his elbow, to be a doctor? We have to be better at medically rolling people who are obviously mentally tough enough, as he was. If there is a pattern then drop.
I wasn’t there physically so I can’t say what happened. But I do feel the instructors have a responsibility to provide supervision if ur showing signs of dying. I hope they gave this young man all the attention he deserved.
He did not have a roommate
@@jakezweig that makes of even more negligent.
If his autopsy becomes public it will be interesting to see if the illicit PEDs were a contributing factor to his death. If drugs were a contributing factor, and he chose to use them, then he wasn’t that mentally tough to begin with. A tragedy nonetheless. RIP to Mullins and comfort to his family.
Sadly it appears that a promising candidate pharmaceutically “enhanced” himself beyond his physical limitations. The uncompromising environment of BUD/S ground through that veneer. And despite this kid’s heart and drive, it appears to me that he made some poor decisions that compounded the issue. I cannot comment regarding the roommate issue but this boy should have sought medical help. I under the drive to keep going and not wanting to risk being recycled. However, after the evolution was completed he should have had his chest checked to make sure that it was only SIPE and not a further infection or worse. Sad. Death is an awfully high price to pay for a misjudgment - but such is the nature of the game. This kid reached for the brass ring. Most don’t even try. The boy had balls.
In the immortal words of Allen Iverson….
“We talking about practice!”
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I love it!!!!!!!
I thought the exact same thing as Jake was saying.... We talking about training.
The youth of America 🇺🇸 need to watch this video.
Please share it man
I read about this young man’s case. He made a conscious decision to use PEDs against his wise mother nurse’s recommendation. I never understood why guys use PEDs knowing fully well the disadvantages especially since they end up bulking you up under normal circumstances. The whole point of BUD/s is to be able to pick up your own weight multiple times. You want to gain weight afterwards to be able to carry heavy loads, but even then you have to remain light. If you read or see the movie B20 about an SAS mission gone wrong in Iraq, when the unit had to run the equivalent of 2 marathons in the desert trying to reach the Syrian border after being discovered, some of the team members fell behind from being too heavy.
B20 WAS crazy
Sir, you are so right on everything that you said!! Where do I start? I myself wanted to go to SEAL training in 1986, but when getting ready to enlist, I found out I was color blind and got disqualified. So I enlisted in the Army instead and had to "do what needed to be done" just to go to jump school (another color vision test that I "passed"). Americans have gotten softer, seems like kids don't grow up like I did anymore. My step kids stay in their rooms all the time on video games. It's all they know. There's no work ethic anymore. I ran track back in HS, especially long distance running. My only transportation growing up was my bicycle, and that bike got me my first real job because the business owner couldn't believe I rode so far just to apply. You have to work and apply yourself to ever have anything! I really appreciate your videos and thank you sir for all that you do!
Have to have land and get them out side
You sound like a poor excuse for a parent
Let’s keep NY Times out of the Military. We don’t need more of America to be softer. The US Special Forces are top tier elites.
We the People appreciate you men!🇺🇸
“The truth of the matter is….. you got weak genes bruh”. Best advice ever that’ll go over a lot of people’s heads.
I think it is fair to say that if you max out in the middle of the week at BUDS, it's a message to get out or you will die if you continue. Hopefully no one ever died on the first day.
Good question
We need to get Derek MPMD to do a video on this article when it comes to the PED’s
Agreed. Very curious what PEDs he was on. SARMS don’t require syringes so sounds like steroids. Especially since Tijuana Mexico is less than 2 hrs away. Extremely easy to get that stuff. The only steroid that I can think of that messes with lungs/breathing is trenbalone.
As far as Seaman Mullins goes, he was a hero and unfortunately made some fatal mistakes.
1000%
@Jake Zweig. I thank you for your service. I was trained in Corps and the Army that you train the way that you fight so you fight the way that you train. Stuff happens. Bud/s is tough. It has to be for what the mission requires. Keep up the good work.
Thank you man !!!!! Exactly
Great speech Lt, I can't stand when people that haven't been in the military try to put the $0.02 cents in and don't know what the hell they're talkin about. I served from 2002 to 2006 in the United States Navy and was medically retired from a traumatic brain injury. There will always be training accidents in the military. Especially when water is involved. I was kicked in the face during the helo dunker in aircrew school because this girl panic and we had blacked out goggles on and we couldn't see. My nose was busted and i sucked it up and finished training. I was hurt on a mission and medically discharged do to a traumatic brain injury. And i love your blunt truth, speaking out on anything in life. Anyone who wants to join the military, on general, and ask for Lt's advice, you should shut up and listen to Lt Zweig and take his advice to heart and you'll never go wrong. I served as a aircrewman and Lt knows what he's talking about and if you can't handle the blunt truth, then you're not made for the military life.
This is the way man !!!!!
Great video man! I like how you talked about deaths NOT from combat. Like people think you only die from combat. Ive known many people whove been seriously injured and people whove died from training outside from combat. Falling out of birds, vehicle rollovers, . Accidents happen whether you like it or not. Just last month 2 Ranger school candidates died from a tree during a storm.
Yup trees
I like this frogman
You couldn’t have said this any better, the road to becoming a SEAL is cut throat & it ain’t for everyone.
Its not for most people
Exactly right. Kids are soft compared to many years ago.
Honor, courage and commitment
An E-6 gave me a quick history lesson once. The Navy core values used to be “Honor, Courage, Tradition,” but were later changed to “Honor, Courage, Commitment” after the Tailhook Convention scandal.
Seals are just different types of dudes. It's not for everyone. My supervisor dated a guy that died doing those underwater breathholds with his other seal buddy in the early or mid 2000s. My question is how do those guys even manage to sneak PEDs into there?
Nobody really sneaks it in it’s usually the guys with cars that just hide it in there they go buy peds on the weekend then leave it in there car since instructors only do room inspection not anything else
@@JuanGarcia-dj2tt Makes sense. Thank you.
Juans answer
Men in skinny jeans....plucked eye brows....selfies....and...."What about my needs"
Ran as an attachment doing drug ops in South America. At no time was I confused, I knew my balls were not big enough. Has been a question in my mind for years " What if "? Didn't get pass it until I was 40.... I'm good 👍🏻
Great analysis, Mr. Zweig! Training that almost kills you makes you a SEAL. 🤣. It seems like, at some point, there has to be self-awareness, responsibility, and determination to know if you can continue or not. And if I recall correctly, he was a college-level athlete? Not that that is anything to compare to BUD/S certainly, but it should give a higher assessment of your ability to continue. Something else, there has been NO secret over the past several decades about SEAL training, what it's like, how tough it is, the very high Drop rate, the cold water, no sleep, etc. There have been countless shows and reports about it, and also yes, people die in it. This young man's death was a tragedy for sure, but he should have been aware enough to tap out. Although to be fair as a youngster perhaps we think we can do more than we actually can. At age 19, even though I had mild CP and was a cancer survivor, I had the audacity to try to get into the Army as a regular enlisted, the MEPS docs said 'No." I understand now that I wouldn't have made it through boot camp, but back then I was .. Well, 19! 🤣
That is a skill that takes time to develop
The system of training has worked for decades. Shit happens. So tired of this military wokeness crap. Guess what, when you face death daily, you train for what you face. And shit is only going to get more real for them if they make it to the teams. This ain't nothing compared to what seals do day in and day out with training. It is the price you pay for doing a job only a few can do.
Moral of the story: don't get incubated! Don't be an egg!
Best video yet Jake! Brutal - sometimes cold, hard, logic is hard to accept… but necessary.
More to come
In the communities people die in training. Just before I went to Ranger School in 94 the Florida phase killed 2 guys. My First Sergeant drowned in a airfield seizure jump. He was a absolute animal, tough as they come. Unfortunately these things happen and will continue to happen. It’s just the nature of the beast. It’s a hard pill to swallow but it’s going to happen.
CLS 2-99.
(C 3/75)
@@The508ranger Sweet 7-96, 3/75
I understand that it’s hard and that people will die. As long as the people supervising are doing everything they can to make sure it’s done as safely as possible and addressing those in need of medical attention I don’t have a problem with it.
Thank you for your service
@@jakezweig Thank you also
"I'd rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6." Damn that's deep!
100000%
I was told that as a child.. If you aint already used to being in very fucked up shit, you will never have it easy going to specops .
You’re a hard brother. Life is hard. Stay savage.
You NEVER disappoint. Always, calling it like it is! 🔥
Don't try and be a SEAL if you aren't willing to die
I think that is the French Foreign Legion credo.
Keep doing what you do Jake! You are a real one!!
I've known a few people who died in training accidents. It's way more common than civilians think. I lost a couple people that way' accident during training off off duty. But as for this specific SEAL, the main problem about this culture is that, even in regular units, you get it beaten into you that pain is just weakness and that you NEVER tap out, no matter what. I watched a guy from a grunt unit try to complete a ruck march with a cracked tibia, threatening to fight anyone who'd stop him, because that's what he was taught. I heard the guy was crippled and medically booted out because if it. I question the idea that when you're pressed to ALWAYS move out, then how could you later say, "Homey needed to say he'd had enough," from maybe one of the very people who beat it into him that you NEVER tap out?
Hey Jake, very good inside take on a very difficult Navy “school” to understand. I was in Class 156 but rang out near the end of 2nd phase. It’s difficult to describe to anyone who has not had the privilege to experience the reality of how things work in BUD/S but you did an excellent job!
Thank you man what got you at the end of 2nd
@@jakezweig Immediately after Hell Week I had to attend a Court Marshal as a witness for something that happened on the ship I was on prior to BUD/S. Justice was served but, because of everything that went down before they caught the right guy, I began to realize how quickly even the best Sailors can get screwed sometimes. I kind of lost the shine and started just going through the motions. Being the only married guy in my class, I used that as an excuse. But the fact is my wife was very supportive. At the end of the day I just didn’t want it bad enough anymore. I still love the Navy and am incredibly grateful for the opportunity I was given. I may have squandered a great career, but I still lean on some of the invaluable lessons learned in the time I was there. Only people who were there really understand how unique that experience is and how amazing the staff is at ensuring only the right people are standing at graduation. Oddly, one of the greatest moments was when Instructor Richardson shook my hand and thanked me when he found out I had quit. He had actually been very good to me especially when he found out what the circumstances of the Court Martial were. He knew I was a good student but also said something to the effect of - it’s the ones that pretend to want it and get through that worry me. Nothing and nobody is perfect but, overall, BUD/S comes about as close as you can get and I hope it stays that way.
I agree with the genes inheritance , some people are born with stronger bodies , but if you truly prepare the right way you should know way before BUDS if you have it or not . It’s not for everybody .
Nope not for most
it is mental toughness that usually makes the difference. JZ has said this a million times.
@@siggifreud812 100’percent ,
@03:40
Once again...
Jake crashes down
on the head of the nail with
a hundred-ton lightning bolt.
The thing that
you HAVE to understand
about ANY military training...
...but particularly so with
Basic Underwater
Demolition / SEAL
(aka, "BUD/S")
is that...
it is just that...
BASIC training.
And VERY "basic" at that.
In other words...
your first few months to a year
will be as basic, entry-level kindergarten
and as easy as it is EVER going to get...
and it certainly WILL NOT EVER
get any easier.
Much more to the point...
just because you graduate from
BUD/S and "make it" out to a Team...
...understand that it will NOT be to
"fame & fortune" and "happily ever after"
or even to a "warm welcome".
Graduating from BUD/S
just simply means that you have met
the most basic of standards and
just to make it to a Team.
Once you do arrive and are assigned to a Team
(assuming that you even make it that far)....
that's when the REAL training begins.
And if you thought the Instructors were tough...
just wait until you meet those Dragons
who have been in the Teams for 10-plus years
with God only knows how many
deployments under their belts.
You just walked into the cell-block
with nothing but the most
hardened of sociopathic criminals...
and they are just waiting to eat you alive
and will make no bones or apologies about it.
Still want that Trident??
Best comment of the fucking day !!!!!! I love you and this true 🔥 🔥
As someone who has expertise in the field...steroids would not cause any of these things. Growth hormone takes about 3-6 months to even take a good effect in the body and its advantages are recovery based, not strength based. Any steroid would take years of use to result in any of this. These kids now are using other things in excess like caffeine, pre workouts, etc.
Viagra, I'm not sure what kind of expertise HGH hits right now, on recovery.
My man said he died because he had weak genetics, lol. I keep telling you guys the water over there in Coronado ain’t no joke, come up to La Jolla, It’s crispy right now.
STINGY SUPER STINGY
@@jakezweig 😂
Another video drop by the goat!
Yep
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Insider Edition reported that Hellweek was 3 weeks long lol. Where did they get their facts from? And I wonder what made this death make the news, and not all the other ones that happen during BUD/S.
Game of telephone most likely. They probably heard a SEAL say, "three weeks and a long day" and interpreted that to mean the literal length of hell week.
“Special” being the operative word .
Navy refuses to allow hospitalization. This guy . . . .it's intubation on life support.....not incubation. No cred with this guy.