Tripping Out with Legend Jon Kabat-Zinn: Pain vs. Suffering, Rethinking Anxiety | Podcast Ep 580
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- čas přidán 9. 04. 2023
- A beautifully weird conversation with the creator of Mindfulness-Based Stress Reduction.
Jon Kabat-Zinn, Ph.D. In this episode we talk about:
• The origins of MBSR and its relation to pain relief
• Pain vs. Suffering
• The accessibility of awareness
• The limitation of mindfulness meditation as a self-improvement practice
• The quote, “open your mouth and you’re wrong”
• Jon Kabat-Zinn’s definition of of healing
Jon Kabat-Zinn is a Professor of Medicine emeritus at the University of Massachusetts Medical School, where he founded its world-renown Mindfulness-Based Stress Reduction (MBSR) Clinic in 1979, and the Center for Mindfulness in Medicine, Health Care, and Society (CFM), in 1995. He is the author of many books including Full Catastrophe Living and Wherever You Go, There You Are.
His latest book, Mindfulness Meditation for Pain Relief, illustrates a range of evidence-based mindfulness meditation practices for those suffering with the challenges of chronic pain.
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Great interview-and Jon Kabat-Zinn has one of the kindest, gentlest, most healing voices on the planet. 🥲
No he doesn’t. His voice is somewhat annoying.
Thank you for shedding light on this matter.
Astonishing!👏👏👏
Beautiful ! Well done Dan!
Thank you kindly!
What an impactful conversation. One of your best interviews, IMO, Dan--thanks!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Jon Kabat-Zinn is the real-life Gandalf/Dumbledore/Obi-Wan Kanobi of The Meditation world!🙂
Did you bother to read Cochrane review on MBSR? My recollection of the gist was that it resulted in small effect sizes based on generally poor quality evidence. Of course if you read Jon's books for yourself you can kind of see why. I think his Beyond Thunderdome book was the wishy-washiest book I've ever read.
And you can learn how to do anapanasati in about five minutes. And he sounds stoned to me, you? You know, how you have that friend who just took a hit and starts rattling on?
The reason people can learn it in 5 minutes now is because people like Jon Kabat Zinn have made it easier for lay people 😂
@@starfish3419 Jon's book on meditation is one of the worst I've read. I certainly wouldn't say I learned anything from it. Gunaratana's was dramatically better.
Shavasana is certainly not the hardest pose. Certainly not without a lot of imagination
It is actually, if you have any depth whatsoever and aren't looking at yourself from the outside. It isn't just a pose, lying down on the floor. There is inner work you need to be doing, which obviously you would find extremely difficult, because you can't even comprehend it.
@@starfish3419 It hasn't escaped me that Buddhism is amongst the most self-congratulatory of religions. Y'all are always talking about how deep your thoughts are. When asked what it is, generally it's just, "life is suffering, it isn't permanent, and you're not real anyway." Doesn't sound as wise, as say Bertrand Russell.
So what, specifically is did you learn with your "inner work" that I should find incomprehensible? How long did you have to lay there?
I'm thinking Dan's anxiety would benefit from more physical exercise than doubling down on mindfulness. Seems both of you guys are fully unaware
We'll share your advice with him!
It's 8 billion people, not 7. You guys haven't been keeping up. I guess that's what you get from over-meditating and reading poetry. I do detect a strong lack of ecological awareness with his general kumbayaism, but what's any of that matter, we aren't real, lol
Let's go back to our common sense...it does point to being a bit more compassionate with everything in every encounter
@@seyedfowad Does it? I've been giving this much musing. It seems to me blind-compassion only furthers overpopulation and resultant pollution, scarce resources, and biodiversity loss. All of which will bring upon mass starvation. Very soon.
Such realizations require outward, environmental awareness.
@@chadreilly environmental awareness realized by one human brain based on research data published in internet or journals if you work in academia is a different matter, a different realization if you will, compared to realizing the healing effect of being more compassionate in attitude towards what is already in the environment. Besides, the claims about overpopulation and scarcity of resources are just speculations, no database for this subject is so certain and thorough to make one lose wits from anxiety about it
@@seyedfowad You are just unenlightened. So sorry
@@chadreilly no problem, I strive for enlightenment just like you. All the best