The WORST rule on Cubecraft is destroying the community

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  • čas přidán 6. 08. 2022
  • This rule in this Minecraft Bedrock Edition server Cubecraft is one of the worst rules I've seen on multiplayer servers.
    This video is different. I want to raise awareness to this issue, and get everyone's help and opinions.
    The forum suggestion I made: www.cubecraft.net/threads/the...
    NOTE: If you are planning on reacting to the suggestion, FORM YOUR OWN OPINION. I am in no way forcing you to agree, in this video, I am stating my personal opinion on the rule. Please feel more than free to disagree with me if you want.
    I would also like to mention I personally have not lowered my debounce or double clicked on the Cubecraft network since the STASI ban, incase someone thinks I have decided to ignore the rule.
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Komentáře • 398

  • @related_noobs
    @related_noobs  Před rokem +44

    Hey everyone. Here is a link to the thread: (once again, I am not forcing you to agree with the suggestion, feel free to disagree or make your own opinion) www.cubecraft.net/threads/the-debounce-modification-double-clicking-rule.308965/
    I also forgot channel members because this video was extremely rushed. Thanks all of my channel members ily guys: STASI, RedninjaCS33, Brady Ops, Evan Mathiason, ProfParzival, LuluDad, CatGirlGamer, Swiftz Xbox, Wave Master7s, ARyfts, mismut, Redwheat, ItzLodgedd Kloska, xCrackedMicx, DexterousSleet87, CyclonicSnow555, FarisQ, SALTY_Shadows, qMelonn

    • @shabanairfan2856
      @shabanairfan2856 Před rokem

      how the heck cps even matters all u can do with high cps is block clutch more nothing related to pvp, RIGHT?

    • @shabanairfan2856
      @shabanairfan2856 Před rokem

      im on mobile and i can butter fly 10 cps

  • @chiefaaron1421
    @chiefaaron1421 Před rokem +58

    Thank you for bringing awareness to this issue. The DC rule has been controversial for the past 2 years. One of the main issues, is the way that it's being handled. There are probably lots of other well articulated arguments that could make if you were to defend the 1.2 Rule, but it doesn't change the fact that CubeCraft has done a poor job at handling this rule. The bannings are very inconsistent. I find it unfair that majority of the PVP community DCs and doesn't get banned. I've been following Cube's rule for the longest time possible, and I got banned the one and only time that I broke it. What's funny is that people on my stream were double clicking yet none of them got banned. Wasp double clicked twice, and got banned for it. Even though I barely just got back into the com, I've watched several blatant double clicking clips, yet a minority get punished. I don't wish on anyone getting banned, but if you're going to ban me for this, then go ban everyone else. The way they responded to your forum feels like an absolute dodge. The rules should be clear and consistent. This is just one comment and I'm pretty sure the subject towards the topic of Double Clicking is far more broad, and there's a lot more I could talk about. Anyways, there's a lot of work that needs to be done, and this video proves that. The cubecraft management team needs to work with their community as well. Good video again Related. If anyone else is reading this comment, please feel free to check out Related's forum post.

    • @related_noobs
      @related_noobs  Před rokem +3

      Thanks Chief, sorry you had to be a victim of the rule and inconsistencies

    • @xthinkingg0
      @xthinkingg0 Před rokem

      I need your content

    • @chiefaaron1421
      @chiefaaron1421 Před rokem +5

      @@related_noobs Imagine getting hyped to play some cube before the summer ends, and then getting banned and not being able to play again until school starts haha. It does suck, but thankfully I'm not going to let that ruin it for me. I'm glad that my ban has been an impetus for bringing awareness to this rule. Thank you once again for using your platform to do great things!

    • @bobbywasabi17
      @bobbywasabi17 Před rokem

      @@chiefaaron1421 RiP cheif sorry bud :'(

    • @qjustmxga5548
      @qjustmxga5548 Před rokem

      @@chiefaaron1421 the reason I think you got banned is cuz ur popular and the one time u double clicked people saw and probably a mod or something knew you were double clicking so they banned you. But I click 22 with 10 debounce time on Xbox and havnt got banned cuz not as many people know me and I dont get 100 viewers and a mod or 2 watching me stream if I do. So basically if your popular you'll have a higher chance of being banned for this dumb rule

  • @Blur751
    @Blur751 Před rokem +30

    I’m glad someone with a voice in this community is talking about it. Someone getting banned for 30 days for double clicking has never made any sense to me. I see both sides of the argument but it’s so stupid to get banned over double clicking with input based matchmaking

    • @rgegrxsgsgrgg6i8
      @rgegrxsgsgrgg6i8 Před rokem

      shut up corinth

    • @shitalsawant1973
      @shitalsawant1973 Před rokem +1

      And I got Permanently Banned for autoclicking accidentally, i even made an appeal that i didn't meant to do it and they denied it and closed the conversation the wtf bro there's no humanity in them

  • @nak2Edits
    @nak2Edits Před rokem +4

    At least its not hive where freelook is banned or * Cough * mineplex where nothing is banned.

  • @Patsman
    @Patsman Před rokem +14

    I've been waiting for this video

  • @superking100
    @superking100 Před rokem +4

    How on EARTH was this video not recommended to me when it came out?! It has been 3 weeks! I completely agree with this, to the point where I was even considering making my own video about it. Thank you so much for doing this!

  • @themaskedman15
    @themaskedman15 Před rokem +11

    I’m gonna be real. I play on console, and I still think this rule is bogus. I think pc players should be able to double click and use a lower debounce. I think there are a ton of really good console and mobile players who would still be able to compete with pc players. CC should honestly focus more time trying to actually update and improve their games instead of implementing kinda trash rules like this one.

  • @RadiumWave
    @RadiumWave Před rokem +4

    After necroposting on your thread It got forwarded so I got away without a warn and the post is open for replies now :D

  • @ugandaa4641
    @ugandaa4641 Před rokem +4

    I got banned for this. I was on java, 1v1ing a player while standing one block below him ( this means that I have 1 block longer reach than my opponent by math and not cheats) , he wasn't that good so i just held my ground and spammed. Every time he came close i just knocked him back. I continued doing this for 5 seconds until I got banned. I don't use any modifications just a plain unmodified gaming mouse. Is this enough for me to get unbanned when they are aware of this issue? Or just thoughts.
    I also play bedrock and heavily agree on this and it is pretty annoying to raise the filter. I thought this only applied to bedrock.

  • @midonashi
    @midonashi Před rokem +1

    i’ve never had more respect for you before ty for using ur platform to speak up ab the stupid rule and tryna make a change

  • @Chr7st
    @Chr7st Před rokem +5

    funny, I just made a video calling out the executive structure on NetherGames, in that video I mentioned a cps rule that nethergames has. then related makes a video calling out a stupid rule.
    The universe has alligned

  • @uCombo
    @uCombo Před rokem

    Thanks for raising this issue that’s been happening to people over a year now really glad it’s finally up. Great video keep it up

  • @xOmqrr
    @xOmqrr Před rokem

    A few months back I reported someone of admitting to double clicking and drag clicking, with a few screenshots and such(obviously no video footage I literally can't get that when he's a casual), he didn't get banned because I did need video evidence and even the mod that I contacted admitted it was pretty hard to get drag clickers and double clickers to get banned, but 8:11 the guy got banned for just SAYING HE DOUBLE CLICKS??? Also imo yea the rule should change, everytime I want to switch from java 1.8 to bedrock cubecraft I have to remind myself "oh right debounce" because I was clicking 20 cps butterfly for a solid 10 seconds in the lobby. Anyway it's nice to see you make a video about the problem and really address it, hopefully it'll be changed in the near future, keep up the good work dude =)

  • @SBP9212
    @SBP9212 Před rokem +4

    4:52 someone got banned for cheating oh no

  • @SALTYShadows
    @SALTYShadows Před rokem +2

    The only thing I would say about this video is the Input matchmaking: It's not perfect and in every game there will be Players on different platforms, especially in certain games where there is no Input matchmaking just to make games run

    • @related_noobs
      @related_noobs  Před rokem +1

      Well I don’t find it fair that PC players need a handicap because of a flawed system. If platform based matchmaking doesn’t work, that shouldn’t be the players fault.

    • @ProfParzival
      @ProfParzival Před rokem

      @@related_noobs It doesn’t bother me.. personally I love the challenge of sparring against even drag clickers…. Lots of fun.. lol.. but you do have to also spare a thought for the console players that have a disadvantage through no fault of their own also. It got to a ridiculous point around a year ago where it was verging on impossible to void block spammer kbm players…. Had to resort to tricks like laddering up when they took a break to eat.. normal console / controller player had almost no chance but it wasn’t their fault either that they queued against kbm players simply because there are far fewer kbm players than needed to fill mega for example. I don’t know the answer, but just wanted to point out there are two sides to every coin.

  • @FranzBeckenbauer13
    @FranzBeckenbauer13 Před rokem

    Hey! I’ve been a sub since the first 500 subs. I’ve always loved cubecraft and have never found a better cubecraft CZcamsr. Thanks for the great content.

  • @Semi_Good
    @Semi_Good Před rokem +1

    Im happy that you talked about about the rule. It doesnt affect me which is good. But need to keep it in mind when changing to kbm

  • @TheMinecraftCookie
    @TheMinecraftCookie Před rokem

    Lol I saw you on cubecraft the other day and I just went on to their CZcams forums to submit my channel and I see you!

  • @unmoved294
    @unmoved294 Před rokem +1

    Nice the only correction I have is that drag clicking does not require double clicking, you can drag 40cps by your mouse moving up and down 40 times not clicking 20 times and it registering 40 ( 6:08 ) unless you meant that god bridging is also possible via doubling instead of drag clicking

  • @tutacat
    @tutacat Před 3 měsíci

    technically, sharing with a specific group of people will affect the ratio / results of a poll. but they are saying "only we can play at that game"

  • @DemonYokaiTV
    @DemonYokaiTV Před rokem +2

    i personally am glad that they dont allow doubleclicking as i spent 100$ on my mouse that doesnt have a debounce modifier and doesnt doubleclick well at all, and i dont really see how its fair that I can spent 100$ on a mouse just to have a disadvantage against someone who doubleclicks on a 20$ mouse and gets 20 cps while actually clicking 9-10 cps but i must agree the rule is implemented poorly, and btw, most mouse companies dont let you modify debounce

  • @RadiumWave
    @RadiumWave Před rokem +3

    By the idea that you cant modify debounce time because its not possible on other devices, you also shouldn’t be able to click anywhere and hit/place to the side on mobile.

    • @rekdyoface4503
      @rekdyoface4503 Před rokem

      Difference between purposefully making your mouse double click. And then using a function purposefully added into the game by Microsoft, to make mobile users actually able to play. I know there is a feature to turn it off, but many people say it is way harder.

  • @unmoved294
    @unmoved294 Před rokem

    At 9:00 it can also be said that using any gaming mouse or a 240hz monitor is giving yourself an unfair advantage, because a higher refresh rate allows you to see things happen with less delay and a gaming mouse will be easier to aim and play with than a cheap office mouse with a bad sensor. Also, many mice do not need their software to be abused, my hyperX pulsefire haste does not have a debounce slider in the software and still registers all my clicks.

  • @tutacat
    @tutacat Před 3 měsíci

    technically, the debounce is to stop the electrical artifacts of a physical switch closing. the connection physically "bounces" and you have to use some level of "de-bounce" to stop it registering multiple clicks when you would only want to click once at a time.
    But they can technically modify their server code to not register two clicks if it is less than 1ms or whatever. It really does break minecraft as a game when it has an autoclicker (it causes knockback)

  • @yeahimzen
    @yeahimzen Před rokem +2

    Hey Mr.RelatedNoobs i just wanted to say thankyou for all the effort you put into your videos, you're really helping all of us go through hard points in our life tysmm

  • @kugsyy
    @kugsyy Před rokem +1

    It’s been a while since he’s uploaded. Can’t wait for the montage.

  • @ColourFloor2
    @ColourFloor2 Před rokem +1

    As a controller player, both double clicking and other clicking methods with high cps are just as annoying. Also, CubeCraft enforces this rule very inconsistently because people who are friends with staff magically get unbanned if caught double clicking but people who aren't get banned.

  • @pipiklatie
    @pipiklatie Před rokem +3

    Im a competetive java eggwars player and i have been playing java for 7 years now in all that time you progress your skills. A year ago (when double clicks were still allowed) i started to learn how to godbridge ( a type of bridge only able to be done with drag clicking/ double clicking). For allot of people godbridge or telly bridging is the next step to improve their skills but i am now unable to godbridge since there is the debounce rule which is just limiting me in my ability to develop my skills.
    I would also like comment on the statement made in 7:52,
    I have been banned multiple times for illegal clicking methods. They just ban you and ask you to make a video with you screen and mouse in 1 camera view to see if you are actually double clicking or not so if they think you are sus they will just ban you with insignificant evidence and ask you to show them a video of you clicking.

  • @ExtinctEcho
    @ExtinctEcho Před rokem +1

    A couple things as a overall bedrock player this debounce rule (it's stupid) used to apply to hive and you can double click on a controller so this applies to those players as well but as a hive player that plays scrims people in the hive scrim comm basically have no way of double clicking due to software you must install on you pc to play called dc prevent. As a zeqa player to me personally I think the rule on zeqa makes sense because it encourages you to actually learn how to play the game a not just click 20 cps on an opponent clicking 10 to win. As for on cubecraft I can't really say anything as for I don't play it much. Parts of this are my own personal opinion.

  • @DrYellower
    @DrYellower Před rokem +8

    Hive player POV, I heavily disagree with these arguments.
    1. Double clicking IS cheating. While it's true that every mouse double clicks (except those with optical switches), double clicks were never intentional, and many gaming mouse manufacturers purposely make their switches worse so that they double click more. When you're buying hardware that is intentionally designed to click faster, it can and should absolutely be considered cheating and cubecraft has every right to not want that on their server.
    2. Not all mice can change settings. Plenty of office mice don't have software (seasoned office mouse user here), and some mice with optical switches can't even physically dc. The term "abusing your mouse hardware" doesn't mean clicking on it in different methods as you interpreted it, but to do things like debounce changing and double clicking that physically aren't possible on some mice and were never supposed to be something mice did in the first place (up until cps based games, all double clicks ever did was make you click on something the wrong amount of times).
    3. Drag clicking does not rely on double clicking, it uses friction between the finger and the mouse to ever so slightly come on and off the threshold for what's a click. While it's definitely the clicking method boosted the most by low debounce and double clicking, it doesn't rely on it and can still definitely get a good consistent cps with high debounce. I'm more neutral on this point, but I still feel like this was misinterpreted in your argument.
    4. You claim Minemen, Hive, and Hypixel all allow double clicking. Hypixel is the only one of those servers that actually does. (Hive can't really enforce it since like you said it's tough to get hard evidence, but the rule is there. No idea why you thought Minemen allows dc)
    5. This wasn't addressed in the video, but I saw a couple of people say in the comments that extra cps isn't even much of an advantage. That's a completely useless point, because if there's no benefit to double clicking then why should you care if you can't do it?
    6. Smaller point, but you can't exactly count the 14 likes on the forum post as an agreement, since those likes are almost certainly from players who already voted.
    As I said, Hive player POV on double clicking, if the cubecraft playerbase has a culture supports double clicking then by all means they should listen to their players. Well made video, while I disagreed with most of the points I could definitely see where they were coming from.

    • @juststrahyk5377
      @juststrahyk5377 Před rokem

      I wouldn’t necessarily say that double clicking is cheating on bedrock when it doesn’t give the same advantages it does on java, except some servers make there kb so that the higher cps you have the more kb you give, again only some

    • @related_noobs
      @related_noobs  Před rokem

      1. If they were never intentional then why would they continue using those switches? Rather, they "hide" the flaw by adding a debounce slider... If they were truly concerned about it or actually saw it as a flaw, it would be fixed.
      2. True office mice don't have settings, but some mice don't need settings to double click, it's only caused by the switches.
      3. As someone who can dragclick half-decently, it is practically impossible to dragclick without the use of low debounce. The difference between using a 10ms and 2ms filter for dragclicking is incomparable. You can go from 3 cps to 25 cps just by lowering your debounce, which proves these clicks are from the "bouncing effect"... not physical "up and down" movement with your fingers.
      4. Hive doesn't enforce doubles clearly if they are going to let one of their biggest influencers make a video completely going against the rule. I can guarantee you at least half the people on Minemen who butterfly use doubles. I personally have not seen their rule enforced either.
      5. I could turn this around and say if it's not much of an advantage why is it banned?
      6. I'm not sure you understand how the Cube forums work, but you can only react once on a post. So those who "liked" the post rather than voted "agree" are essentially saying they approve of this post. If they didn't, there is a "disagree" reaction they could put instead.

    • @DrYellower
      @DrYellower Před rokem

      @@related_noobs I understand your take on drag clicking and I'll admit I didn't know that you can't double interact on cubecraft's forum, but I feel like you missed the point I was trying to make on 5. The point I was trying to convey was that it obviously is an advantage if most of the community does it and wants it to be allowed, cubecraft recognizes double clicking as an advantage and if the entire sweat community wants to do it then how can they not as well?
      And again, the rules on Hive and Minemen don't allow dc, at least on paper. Minemen absolutely does enforce it with both a cps cap and staff intervention, but like I said Hive can't really enforce it but still doesn't allow it.
      As for 1, the reason it wasn't fixed is because the technology didn't exist until recently. Simple as that, literally nobody went out of their way to recreate the "bounce effect" until clicking fast mattered in some cases. All it did was make you click twice on something when you meant to click once.
      And for 2, the bottom line is plenty of mice can't double click/can't change anything to control it, which is why changing something to double click on a mouse than can dc is considered "hardware abuse"

  • @Transport_For_Squid
    @Transport_For_Squid Před rokem +1

    On cubecraft I was combo someone, then they perm banned me just cuz I combo someone on cubecraft. They need to fix their anti cheat system

  • @zenon.bussiere3636
    @zenon.bussiere3636 Před rokem +3

    I disssagree bc i play kbm on a ps4 and i have no way to edit my debounce time if i was playing a bunch of people who have super clicking speed because this rule was allowed it would be not very fair I feel

    • @Uyruko
      @Uyruko Před rokem

      there are quite a bit of devices i assume you can use to change it

  • @bobbywasabi17
    @bobbywasabi17 Před rokem

    I have qestion. how do you connect your switch controller to your PC?

  • @HonduranAmericanBallMapping

    I agree with all of this but what I’m kinda worried is hopefully they don’t take this too seriously that they patch up the mouse clicking

  • @sofie8313
    @sofie8313 Před rokem

    I would like to say that some controllers are now mentioned such as controllers that have two zr’s

  • @tntnoobie1004
    @tntnoobie1004 Před rokem +5

    I got banned from cubecraft the day my summer started and I'm pretty sure that I got banned to that specific rule.
    Plus the commentary was smooth asf frfrong👍👍👍

  • @everythinggame5
    @everythinggame5 Před rokem +1

    The problem with this is that not all mice can have lower debounce most mice including logitech and razer mice im 95% sure hive has a 10 debounce rule but you still are allowed to drag click because even with 10 debounce drag clicking is possible and if your mouse button isnt good for drag clicking you can just buy like a 1 dollar roll of tape to make it

  • @marshals.
    @marshals. Před rokem

    that gameplay in the background were you using controller or keyboard and mouse if you are using a controller which controller were you using? Because that gameplay is so freaking awesome

    • @related_noobs
      @related_noobs  Před rokem

      I don’t play controller. I was using a keyboard and mouse yeah

    • @marshals.
      @marshals. Před rokem

      @@related_noobs can a controller perform such great gameplay if not then how far can it go if that gameplay is 10/10 how would you rate it if the gameplay was with a controller rate it it out of 10 lol it's not a big deal I just wanna be sure before I actually buy one thing

  • @BrandyJackson790
    @BrandyJackson790 Před rokem +1

    what is even more bogus about this rule, is that I have a mouse that double clicks (even sometimes triple clicks) and i play on console. My mouse can easily click 18+ CPS. And i’ve been kicked and banned for three days before. Since i’m on console, i cannot lower or modify my double clicks. I don’t know how this is still a problem, and it goes to show how sucky cube’s staff is

  • @bloodybearknuckles7093

    Thanks for making a video on this topic I got banned for 30 days after dc and I had to use an alt so I could play and got banned on the alt too so I have to wait rip thanks for showing awareness on this

  • @khaostica
    @khaostica Před rokem +5

    When I saw this video I kinda laughed, cause my mouse is razer and doesn't double click unless I enter synapse and run a macro (which I do NOT do). Controller players don't understand that clicking high cps for leftclick doesn't actually give a massive advantage on bedrock edition. Only right clicking doubles really gives an advantage, but it is very small in the grand scheme of things. I jitter personally, and click about 12-13. Jittering anything over 15 cps is nearly humanly impossible without double clicking. I am NOT saying that it is COMPLETELY impossible, just that it is unrealistic for pvp if you're doing this without doubles. My cps is more than enough to get by, and I'm pretty sure that if you gave Lights a razer mouse that can't double he's still sh*t on almost every player in the Comm.

    • @related_noobs
      @related_noobs  Před rokem +1

      This is true

    • @skyzon1740
      @skyzon1740 Před rokem

      Lights is dogshit without double clicks your so right

    • @liam2175
      @liam2175 Před rokem

      I know someone that uses synapse on cubecraft and they havent got banned

  • @guawm
    @guawm Před rokem

    Im a java hypixel player, EVERY practice server don't let you use the debounce along with others so its kinda like CubeCraft since you can use it on hypixel however this probably won't be allowed since the debounce thing for java wasn't allowed on multiple servers for around 2 years now

  • @jackeagle75
    @jackeagle75 Před 6 měsíci

    Best explained video on double clicking i have ever watched
    Good job bro

  • @CrozyCaw
    @CrozyCaw Před dnem

    not all mice double click, most don't. it's an advantage specific to specific mice.

  • @redstone-gameing2176
    @redstone-gameing2176 Před 10 měsíci

    Cube Craft will not be able to do anything with this problem because it is a server in the game, so it will not be able to know the mouse specifications without entering Minecraft itself.

  • @duckweedking
    @duckweedking Před 10 měsíci +1

    For one thing cubecraft is essentially saying that I can't use my mouse just because console players can't click fast. Another thing is that my friends on mobile can hit without even directly looking at the player because off the NON-HACKING service called minecraft settings but I can't even use my mouse without risking being banned. I played on console at one point and it's not that hard to win as long as you get good. (Lol no offense I was a noob too at one point.) Also as a tech nerd the denounce slider is a bugfix not a bug maker unlike. Actual hack clients. That is my argument and you don't have to agree with it but please consider this opinion.

  • @lightschips
    @lightschips Před rokem +4

    I agree, cc allow double click lawl

  • @kezioo69
    @kezioo69 Před rokem +1

    I just got banned for drag clicking and now I can't join the server for 30 days, I wish I saw this before I got banned but thx for telling me about this anyway, I guess I won't drag click again

  • @DarkChaosMC
    @DarkChaosMC Před rokem

    I feel like adding a cap would fix everything, but I see why this is an issue, its some mice not ALL mice that can change debounce, if it was all mice it wouldn’t be an unfair advantage, because everyone can do it, but it is considered a unfair advantage because it is a “paid advantage” compared to my dollar store mouse which has it debounce speed built in and is unchangeable.

  • @fabuchan
    @fabuchan Před rokem

    as a ex- bedrock switch player and currently a java main who double clicks i really dont get this rule, i mean half of the pc cubecraft community DCs (incuding me after trying bedrock on pc for the first time) also due to the match making u mentioned about THERE IS NO POINT OF THE RULE like today even with the rule u will encounter double clickers most of the games u play
    Thanks for making a video about this situation and i hope some staff member sees this and plans a change to the rule. also to prove the anti cheat is so bad there is no point of it being there to catch DCing players i bolt clicked 50 cps on bedrock cubecraft and didnt get banned same as my friend
    Edit: 13:14 nice voice crack lmao

  • @SoloWarz
    @SoloWarz Před rokem

    your suggestion has been already forwarded lol
    @RelatedNoobs
    Also, ur so close to 20k subs, conrgats! Well deserved! :D

  • @Sam-jc7mg
    @Sam-jc7mg Před rokem

    How’d you come up with your channel name. I’m subbed btw. Great vids!!

  • @Random-qi8tm
    @Random-qi8tm Před rokem

    Related how did get that name colour in cube like half name light blue other half white?

    • @related_noobs
      @related_noobs  Před rokem

      I believe it is a reward in one of the VIP levels

  • @ShinyBow_Plays
    @ShinyBow_Plays Před rokem

    I totally agree with u. I hate the DC issue is so annoying and its making me want to not play cubecraft anymore. :(

  • @qMelonn
    @qMelonn Před rokem +4

    i'm glad you used your channel to bring awareness to it, i also just wanna say even if you use 10ms on some mice you can still achieve double clicks so if that's the case you have to buy a new mouse just to play cube. or download a third party software like dc prevent, which can be argued to still go against part of rule 1.2: "...or modifying your mouse’s click function in any way via software or hardware." such a pointless rule, and the main argument i see people making is "but i'm mobile/console and go against pc players" which is literally just cubecraft's matchmaking system being flawed, or they have challenge queue on. double clicking isn't cheating, it's clicking your mouse a specific way (which has to be learned anyways, not everybody can just double click perfectly immediately) to achieve a higher CPS, just like jitter clicking. obviously anyone can make the argument "i play on 10ms and my mouse still double clicks" and imo it's much easier to listen to the community, be like literally every other server and allow double clicks in general... instead of forcing those players to buy a new mouse. idk that's just my opinion, good luck with the backlash the server staff gives you after seeing this video, hopefully they don't strip your YT rank for making a suggestion although that would not be surprising. also the commentary was great ily

    • @related_noobs
      @related_noobs  Před rokem +2

      literally agree with everything you said. PC players shouldnt be given a handicap because platform based matchmaking is bugged - that is Cubes problem, not the PC players.

    • @ProfParzival
      @ProfParzival Před rokem

      @@related_noobs tbh, I don’t think it’s bugged, it’s more likely literally the fact that the number of Pc/Kbm players isn’t that high.. there is very little likelihood of queuing only pc/kbm players ONLY much of the time especially during quiet times. I recall seeing some cube graphs a while back and being a bit surprised at actually how few kbm players there are. If they forced kbm players to only queue against kbm players on mega you’d be sat waiting forever for lobbies to fill.

  • @FlexCrash
    @FlexCrash Před rokem

    ok so im really new to playing on keyboard and i dont know if doubleklicking makes an essential difference whyle fighting , but if it does than i think this is not bad at all simply because some people just want to play and chill and dont want to learn some skills just so they can play this game and not get completely destroid by sweats that are just shredding everyone simply because of their higher cps (wich could lead to a decrease in newer players) , but if it doesnt make a huge difference than this rule is just straight up bs. So basicly as u said they really should just put a max limmit on cps u can gett if they have such a big problem with it.
    Im truely sorry if i got some things wrong and feel free to correct me , also english isnt my first language so please dont judge me on my writing skills

  • @gqecko
    @gqecko Před rokem

    My friend play on ps4 and he have a model o and he cant put a dc prevent and he got ban, he cant do nothing to prevent it, i think cc need to fix this.

  • @Bigloneliness
    @Bigloneliness Před rokem

    About 1 or 2 years ago I got banned from cubecraft because they thought I was cheating, I don't and I wasn't even a good player at the time and was playing on an office mouse

  • @ellio_1367
    @ellio_1367 Před rokem +1

    So I know this is a VERY unpopular opinion - but I must say I agree with cubecraft on this one. Yes, double clicks can occur normally and are not a result of hack, and yes input based match making prevents PC players from facing console or mobile players, however I still think cubecraft's no double clicking rule is justified. Not all pc players can double click - I for one use a mouse which cannot double click, and I get 11/12 CPS butterfly clicking. I get that better peripherals can make slight improvements to your gameplay, however I think that certain people having significantly higher CPS just because their mouse can double click is completely unfair. Your CPS should be how many times your finger can hit the mouse per second - one hit equals one click. Personally, double clicking is not what CPS is about for me, CPS is how many actual CLICKS you can make. Now I am not saying there isn't an issue - there definitely is. However I do not believe that the issue is double clicking being banned on cubecraft. If other servers want to allow double clicking, that's their call but that does not mean cubecraft has to. For me at least, the issue is that cubecraft maybe hasn't made it obvious that double clicking is bannable. They have a thing that sends chat messages warning you of course, but maybe they should just kick the offending player with a warning first rather than straight up banning them. This is IMO the best way to prevent "surprise" bans like the ones Wasp and Chief recieved. But double clicking would not be healthy for the server, as it unfairly disadvantages PC player who cannot double click.

  • @dimokratisnt3637
    @dimokratisnt3637 Před rokem +1

    To be honest, I agree with the rule, it's more fair when everybody has the same abilities, without giving advantage to people with more expensive hardware (and not only).
    Also, saying that the rule is destroying the community is just false (lmao). The only aspect that's affected by the rule (even if you don't agree with it) is the gameplay. This ruining the community is an exaggeration of a statement.

  • @Cherry-xq5rh
    @Cherry-xq5rh Před rokem +1

    cubecraft is concerned about the game not being fair, since only people with mice can double click get and get a higher cps than people on console or mobile. if you are good enough you can jitter click on console too so that why thats not banned (if it is thats kinda stupid and im ok with them changing it, but im not ok with them changing the double click rule).

  • @Poincianaa
    @Poincianaa Před rokem

    9:45 I would argue jitter clicking 18cps would be more benefitial since the timing is more consistent between clicks.

  • @rekdyoface4503
    @rekdyoface4503 Před rokem +3

    Prediction: it’s double clicking.
    I was right.

  • @_Silly
    @_Silly Před rokem +1

    So your saying so many people are cheating you should be aloud to cheat?
    (also your not aloud to double click or have under 10ms on a mouse on Hive)

  • @Mexican1cce
    @Mexican1cce Před rokem

    My mouse has no software and I d9 nothing and my mouse somehow dubble clicking in and I had nothing to modify

  • @Xwpro21
    @Xwpro21 Před rokem +1

    agree with this situation and yes the rules of cc are very weird (in my opinion).I cant do too much about this bc im mobile but ima support this suggestion post.Thx for this comentary and maybe i will get banned?? idk.

  • @Secretsss
    @Secretsss Před rokem +1

    If you have a problem getting banned just use DC prevent, if you don't and you're aware you're risking getting banned that's on you, the rule is completely fair

  • @duwla1913
    @duwla1913 Před rokem

    thanks so much for covering this, huge w for reltaed.

  • @TakenWasTakenYT
    @TakenWasTakenYT Před rokem

    Lets goo get this man 20k i have not been watching on my moms alt account for 2 years to see him not reach 20k

  • @Roxball15
    @Roxball15 Před rokem +1

    What texture pack do you use

  • @munker5311
    @munker5311 Před rokem +1

    As a controller player who this rule doesn’t apply to… I still think that this rule is 100% absolute garbage

  • @Waterbead4220
    @Waterbead4220 Před rokem +1

    Related I am a mobile player and I am very good at pvp so I was suspected of using kill aura by sentinel a message came on chat that you are suspected of using kill aura so I acted like a noob later I emailed cubecraft and made a commentary about this situation on my CZcams. That sentinel is banning sweats .

  • @Fr0z3nNova
    @Fr0z3nNova Před rokem

    For zeqa, We disallow double clicking for mainly 2 reasons: convenience for moderating and an innate unfair advantage. If you get a specific type of mouse, it can double click more, a cps advantage. Furthermore, many types of mice don’t have debounce editing softwares, making it unfair to those players. We mainly want to make every fight as equal as possible. For moderation, it’s hard to say “oh I can click a consistent 18 cps” without autoing and even with 8ms. Zeqa doesn’t allow many softwares that modify your gameplay greatly either (most “modifying” being like onix that we allow)
    All Java servers mainly follow this pattern too.

  • @xitzshiningx9636
    @xitzshiningx9636 Před rokem +1

    the gameplay was SOO good specially ur commentary, and the fax u stated

  • @gusmoment
    @gusmoment Před rokem +1

    finally, i’ve missed you!

  • @privqted
    @privqted Před rokem +7

    factual information being spoken !!

  • @drumminonzie
    @drumminonzie Před rokem

    I agree. I play Cubecraft on bedrock and even though I use a controller and this does not effect me as much I still think that if Cubecraft cares about this rule this much, they should just add a cps cap.

  • @deftjustme2419
    @deftjustme2419 Před rokem

    I do not play on kdm but lots of my freinds on cc play on it and mention that it is a pain and a nightmare not to dc it would bring back lots of og players and make the game more fun for every1.

  • @dodxt
    @dodxt Před rokem +2

    As much as I understand you pc players, platform based matchmaking often doesn't work and I get queued with pc players clicking 20 CPS. The only way for me to disagree with this is if they uplevel platform based matchmaking as I'm on a laggy Xbox with few frames and of course, controller CPS. I don't think it's fair if a pc player with 300fps and 20cps goes against a player with 50fps and 5cps. But I understand you pc players and won't get to upset if they allow low debounce/DC.

  • @OldHardcore1
    @OldHardcore1 Před rokem

    A player by the name Ami20p is currently perm banned just from double clicking

  • @Sharparrow81
    @Sharparrow81 Před rokem

    I butterfly click anyway, also how r you so not lag I get like 300 ping and get horrendous hit delay

  • @marxxplaysss4885
    @marxxplaysss4885 Před rokem +1

    In my opinion, when you said jittering was basically abusing ur mouse I disagree cuz when u usually jitter or normal ur actually getting the cps that ur clicking but when u double click u have to hit ur mouse in a certain type of way and u get 8-10 more cps which is broken, also I main controller and went to my friends house and effortlessly was able to click 18-20 cps so it doesn't really take skill to double click🤷‍♂️
    I think players should just use their default mouse settings tho dcing is completely broken to me

  • @znjbell
    @znjbell Před rokem +1

    i agree , its hard to combo tho in debounce 10

  • @lazykittyowo
    @lazykittyowo Před rokem +1

    I agree with you that it can be annoying for PC player but because cube craft support play with every console it can be so annoying for Mobile player because you can’t click like them usually gonna lose I hope cube craft find a way to fix the issue because I don’t wanna to separate mobile gamer from PC gamer because well I like to play with my friends but this can be so annoying ;-;

  • @mahoganii
    @mahoganii Před rokem

    Well put brother. All ew/Ctf scrims are completely beriddled with dcers and low denounce times, however there is still an extremely minimal impact to the overall game. The shit that the CubeCraft staff chooses to prioritize (banning dcers, trash talkers) is in comparison extremely minute compared to the real framework and playability issues that the server currently is dealing with.

  • @blaiseweter7174
    @blaiseweter7174 Před rokem +2

    What’s the point of double clicking if it gives u more cps I see it as cheating

    • @Uyruko
      @Uyruko Před rokem +1

      the point is to click more

    • @blaiseweter7174
      @blaiseweter7174 Před rokem +2

      @@Uyruko it’s still cheating might as well just use auto clicker at that point

    • @Uyruko
      @Uyruko Před rokem

      @@blaiseweter7174 you don’t click with an auto clicker

  • @EvrenAlt
    @EvrenAlt Před rokem

    at 8-10ms debounce you don't get double clicks. i think it should be 1 input = 1 output

  • @RevZoneSafari
    @RevZoneSafari Před rokem

    How you make your worlds background look like that

  • @SBP9212
    @SBP9212 Před rokem +2

    All I do is normal click

  • @n.animation4293
    @n.animation4293 Před rokem

    How can I show the cps and fps counter?

  • @rishiboy1232
    @rishiboy1232 Před rokem

    I may be a controller player, but i have friends who play on pc who can't double click, but do you think drag clicking should be allowed on cubecraft? by the way, great video and great that u are able to try to help everyone in the cc community. if u havent subbed to related and havent liked the video, u should prob go do that, one of my greatest inspirations to start grinding on yt again.

    • @related_noobs
      @related_noobs  Před rokem

      Dragclicking is a whole different argument. For the sake of time I’m just going to say I do not want dragclicking to be allowed for now.

    • @rishiboy1232
      @rishiboy1232 Před rokem

      @@related_noobs I see... i agree with u in bedrock drag clicking is too op

    • @asifsuriya652
      @asifsuriya652 Před rokem

      @RelatedNoobs Duel A player named @XsDnied

  • @qjustmxga5548
    @qjustmxga5548 Před rokem +1

    My model o double clicks and it's on 10 debounce time or whatever it is and I'm on Xbox and don't even know how to get to settings on the model o. I click 22 cps and havnt got banned. Which last time I saw was more the Aaron. So they'll probably ban you if you get high cps even if you don't double click if ur popular or tell people. And I havnt got banned from cube cuz im not very popular in the community even tho I've told people

  • @awakening5967
    @awakening5967 Před rokem +2

    I love how cubecraft bans double clickers but never bans reach hackers

  • @logsauce5315
    @logsauce5315 Před rokem

    I agree. WHat is the differance between double clicks and jitter clicking?? the only thing I could even say is if they had double clicking on, and jitterd with the double click. But then again I don't even have issues with autoclickers. They are still very much killable just depends on your ping.

  • @caintheking0718
    @caintheking0718 Před rokem +1

    Clearly you did not read into hives rules enough as according to hive rules you cannot change your default debounce time meaning that if your default allows you to dc you can however lowering your debounce time in order to dc is not allowed

  • @samegan9362
    @samegan9362 Před rokem

    So I can’t butterfly click anymore?

  • @LuluDad
    @LuluDad Před rokem

    Omg yes thank u so much for making this video more people need to know about this

  • @itzdogs1250
    @itzdogs1250 Před rokem

    Thanks for bringing light on this rule

  • @SPCRandallCounty
    @SPCRandallCounty Před rokem

    “This video is made for people who play cubecraft regularly”
    Also Me: banned

  • @skyzon1740
    @skyzon1740 Před rokem +1

    Good luck knocking someone in the void that clicks 25 cps

    • @related_noobs
      @related_noobs  Před rokem

      Lol yeah. If you learn how to clutch properly you can get some ridiculous extensions.

    • @skyzon1740
      @skyzon1740 Před rokem

      @@related_noobs adam