Recording an entire track using only the Yamaha THR...
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- čas přidán 25. 08. 2024
- LA-based studio guitar tech/producer/gear wizard Marc VanGool records an entire track using only a Yamaha THR10, Cubase AI6 and a 2008 MacBook.
The go-to guy for anything guitar-related in LA, Marc's credits include Daughtry (Marc's THR5 made it on to the latest record!), Kelly Clarkson, Black Stone Cherry, Theory of a Deadman, Creed, Adam Lambert, Papa Roach and 3 Doors Down and he's as likely to be found modding an amp or building a pedalboard as he is tracking an amazing guitar part or finding the perfect guitar sound for a hit record with his awesome collection of amps (a small part of which can be seen in the background of the video). Suffice to say, what he doesn't now about tone isn't really worth knowing...
And don't be fooled by the collection of incredible amps and outboard in the control room at Bay 7 Studios, everything you can hear was done using only what comes in the THR box (apart from the laptop and guitars).
Download the finished track, and the final Cubase project file, from www.yamaha-ar-network.com.
This amp is pretty damn impressive. There is one at my local music store, and it amazes me how good it sounds for what it is. You can pretty much do anything with it. Its ideal for recording.
This guy makes creating an awesome sounding track seem like child's play! Fantastic demo
That is an amazing studio
I own the THR10 and it is by far the best purchase I have made. Truly enjoyable experience. This guy however needs a thesaurus.
+HankCScorpio
That was pretty cool.
I'd swap a large vocab for his guitar playing any day!
hey man, can you tell me how much time of playing it can provide with bateries?
+André Silva about 2 hours
Have you compared the tones with those app based like Bias FX? I'm thinking of getting one, I see some second hand , now cheaper online.
I just played through one of these at a local music store. I'd never seen one before and thought it was just a head and the sound was coming through the 4x12 speaker cab it was sitting on. I was amazed when the guy showed me it was just the THR and wasn't connected to anything else! It sounds much bigger than it looks.
best video I could have seen to make me want to buy this amp. well done. Excellent tutorial and demo and I like your final point about NOT being distracted by mountains of gear..very valid. May have to go to my music store very soon
It's a Yamaha SG (or SBG in the USA) - the specific model is an SG1820LTD. The Yamaha SG shape has been around since the 70s but this latest version has been available since 2009.
That's right - apart from the drums, everything on this track was recorded using only the THR connected to Cubase via USB - no line ins, no mics.
That's a compressor that's permanently wired on a split from the guitar input in the control room, but it's not in the signal chain - the only thing between the guitar and the THR was cabling.
wow dude, that has some seriously great tone! I love the sounds you are getting out of it, especially the rhythm guitar over the chorus!
There's no noise reduction or extra processing used - the whole thing was just guitar-THR-Cubase...
But there's a different patch cord plugged into the guitar than into the THR. Any ideas what's plugged in between the two?
i have the THR10X, and yes he's right. with all the plug ins and patches you'll be spending more time searching what sound your looking for rather than making your music. downloading the programs like the SSD (steven slate drums) that is too complicated to do and/or bias effects by positive grid. it's nice to have all that luxury, but i'm old school and i like simple. what he says at the end of the video hit the nail right on the head.
the drum loop wasn't made using the THR...
He addressed that right at the beginning of the video!
Yamaha really needs to get a proper website for its guitars
Here's Marc explaining why the DBX compressor is active - "The compressor is actually only used on the talkback mic on the Neve console (you can see the talkback mic on a gooseneck attached to the console) so it is picking up all the noise in the control room, that's why you see the meter changing. It is not in the guitar signal chain at all. The video is guitar plugged directly to the amp."
That clean electric is so Billy Duffy the guitar starts playing "She sells sanctuary" on its own!
This sounds like the breakdown from shoot to thrill by acdc. Funny he should mention them.
That's exactly what I thought!
Damn, I only stumbled across this as I reinstalled Cubase to use with the THR10. Great stuff! Would've loved to have had a opportunity to download those demo files. Very inspiring video-well done :)
That's pretty cool. Everything's pretty cool.
You can use the headphone out as an analogue DI output - most of the videos I've recorded have been done that way, but for this video we wanted to showcase the 'out of the box' USB solution.
THR needs 2 things to compete these days. First, it needs a way to add a boost on board (tubescreamer and maybe a super overdrive type). Second, it needs to combine the brown modes into the THR10. Having 3 different types of THR's creates a type of decision paralysis as you want ONE go-to amp but find that each amp lacks some great sounds from others. Amps like the Katana are great all the way around.
Yes - the laptop is running Cubase as a multitrack recorder, so you're playing back the tracks you've already recorded and adding a new one on top. Cubase then uses THR as it's audio-output so all of the tracks are played back through the THR.
Can I use the A1 Cubase / Steinberg for this type of recording ? And what Yamaha model guitar is that ? Thank you
Kind of like a JamVox but with all the customization happening on the hardware itself rather than in a software program. Pretty neat.
This video has sold me on this amp. I will be buying one today. Thank you Yamaha.
Smokin' demo. Like this guy, too. Can't do what he does, but would like to someday. I even have a lefty (old) SBG2000 and SG500 already, just can't play them like him, sadly!!! Thanks a lot for showin' me what's possible. -Al
Youve completely missed the point. The difference between the THR10 and those amps is that the THR10 isn't meant to be a substitute for those stage amps. The THR is supposed to be your third amp, an amp you can take with you to practice, maybe warm up before your gig, use it in your hotel room or any place where using a real amp would be impractical. THR stands for third.
Great review of the amp, great video man.
if i get a studio like this some day, i will never see the sun again :P
i personally felt that the track was perfect in its own at 4:37 after he added that delayed guitar part
The sole vid that sold me on this magic box. Still need to get one.
I have a Fractal Axe FX and to be honest, I don't think the THR would replace it. However, this surprisingly sounds very good, and much prefer the tones of this unit than any Line 6 product.
That's a lot of different tones to fit into such a short song, but it's done very tastefully and the arrangement really blends in the end! That's a rare talent among guitar players, especially when demoing gear on youtube ;)
It's a BB2024X - top of the range made-in-Japan model. The BB1024X or BB424X models look almost the same but have different specs to hit different price points,.
Intro is really great
So just to clarify, if you use USB out, it doesn’t force you to use simulators on the computer, right? I can record exactly my amp sounds, and make adjustments on the amp still?
Yes - both THR5 and THR10 ship with Steinberg Cubase AI for Mac and PC. This track was recorded using that software...
I'm getting ready to buy one..
In Garageband you should have an option for 'Input Source' - select only 'Stereo 1/2' (this is the amp sound of THR). 'Stereo 3/4' is the dry DI signal from THR.
Only manually - there's no footswitch option. And no, it doesn't have a speaker output - the full range speakers are a key part of the sound so the only outputs are line outs (either via USB or the headphone out).
Just checked it out. SSS means 3 single coil pickups. The guy in the Andertons demo is playing a guitar with a humbucker in the bridge position just like every other video.
Oh my... Look at that studio, looks like an audio store:)
Does this guy have the Star Trek enterprise in his house ?
That wall of amps is amazing, all those classics. Gotta say I'm digging the THR
Very cool !!! Great Playing Marc
Back in 2012, that kind of technology was special !
i agree with this statement where is the red cable going to when the cable going to the yamaha is a 2 tone job lol!!!!
No - the guitar was recorded direct into Cubase via USB - there's no EQ or mastering procressing applied, just a levels and panning in the mix. You can download the Cubase project with all the raw files from the above link...
I LOVE TOAD AND Blackstone Cherry, this dude´s a beast.
I love these little amps. I have to get one.
That is one Gear Full Studio.... Heaven in a Room .
No wonder Phil sounds so good !!! Is there a subscription involved after purchase of the THR ???
Sometimes that's all you really need. It's kind of like playing horn in a Sousa march--the style calls for a boring part, and such is your curse. I don't think it says so much about the individual player as it does about popular bassists and their influence on modern rock styles.
Great Lead Guitar
Good video , nice playing & tones.
I don't understand, I have this amp and run it through Cubase and when I try do stuff like covers, the guitar part always skips somewhere along the way?! This video is cool though, but how come mine jumps..could someone help?
u can get them in any yamaha music school, or online!
This amp sounds good with acoustic guitar?
Studio of my dreams!
The SG series are great guitars.I started playing on mine (SG 2000) after I saw Carlos Santana use one,and get some of the best sustain (almost better than a Les Paul).These guitars are really good,and the build quality is good.
almost..but not
I had an sg 2000 for 15 years. great sustain, super guitar but it was very heavy, man.
You sir, there is the amazing Yamaha SG guitar, which is used to record most of the records in Turkey, it is not the amp but guitar.
Ordered my Classic today!
Just staring at those Marshall heads in the background and drooling.......
I watched this video way back in 2012 and I really wanted one of these amps so bad. I couldn't ever talk my wife into letting me get one, but last night I played my gigging rig at gig volumes in my basement and my wife sad that I needed to figure some way to play without being so damned load. I talked to her about this amp and she finally said yes. Nothing like 5 years of patience and a loud practice session to butter up the wife for new gear. But even after 5 years this thing is only selling at $50-$100 less than it did new. Must be awesome.
HAHAHAHAH awesome story man, and congrats
id have fucked the wife out onto the street
You're so hen-pecked :)))
Steve L it is a great little amp. I bet you're loving yours.
How could you stay maried? My wife is always buying all kinds of things for her and for the kids, so she better say next to nothing when I come home with gear...
Just got one .I guess I'll have to get a studio full of gear now .Boy is that's going to cost me.!
it would be so cool just to know the basic how connect thr30iiw to the cubase ai freely included with it, because I can't by any mean make it to work in a windows 10 laptop, i installed everything even the drivers for steinberg yamaha and when choose the drivers in cubase a message pops up telling couldn´t use them, nothing like spending 550 euros or 600 including the relay g10T from line 6 and being not able to record I am getting a bit of reworse
Thats a problem I want to fix before I buy it. Reply if you get your answer please.
That thing is so impressive!!
daaaamn, duuuude... he comes up with all these riffs and things... I'm amazed :DDD
that sounds very much like kickstart my heart.
Terrific overview and demo. Have had a THR 10ii for couple of months ... so impressed with the overall build quality and stellar sound. Added it to my other amps based soley on portability, battery option and built-in wireless ... grab and go outside with zero cables. But again the full and big sound in tiny form factor is a knockout IMO. Have never got in to recording and so if I had actually read the manual I would have realized that it can evidently be an effective interface as well ... look forward to trying it out, although I now realize that I didn't hang on to the documentation that provides download for Cubase. Nevertheless, great informative video, thanks.
He's got a lot of Yamaha's. That's a good company to be endorsed by. They make damn near everything.
Even motorbikes!
3:12 - Yeah, and if I make it, I'd be amazed...just to find tomorrow. Yeah, one more day, and I'd be amazed, just to see it waiting
jealous of that marshall wall
Wonder what he uses for the drum loop? Snare sounds REALLY good.
That was amazing!
The rare unicorn blood equipment here is the white Macbook.
yeh but can u use the Pod anywhere with speakers....?
@neilmacmusic I have about ten amps.. 65 Fender Bandmaster Pre CBS... 65 Ampeg Gemini II, and other cool gear... But after 5 minutes with this amp I KNEW I had to have it... AMAZING is putting it mildly!
Amazing sounding. I had a chance to mess around with one at a store and I wanted to buy it on the spot. I'm getting one soon, and after seeing this, I want one of those guitars, too!
I really like my THR10X, nice for quiet settings.
I live in the mountains and my electric goes out alot in crappy weather. I have a generator but it runs my fridge and lights and a few plugs in the house. We had a bad storm last winter and I would have went nuts if I didn't have this thing and some batteries and alot of beer!
The THR allows you to record both processed and DI tracks at one time.
anyone know how loud these are? seriously considering using one live, but mic'd up, could this work?
this amp work's fine with acoustic guitar?
and now skrillex also produces a track using nothing but the thr and a 2008 macbook
there's definitely some outboard gear being used, whilst he's recording some of the VU meters start lighting up, it looks like a little compression and maybe eq?
Can we put other instruments than Yamaha instruments?
If i want to play bass on it,will it be ok??
enolys van de kerchove Yes
I honestly don't even know. I have never tried an Orange. I've only tried Marshalls and i love them. They are both really expensive.
AMAZING PLAYER
You dude totally inspired me!
Jezus christ this is so sick!
This guy right here has it made lol ! Great playing and track work
Ah thanks, I'll look out for a 424 then I think, looks like a good alternative to deciding between a jazz and a precision.
Kickstart my heart
Pretty cool.
You guys should make a floor version of the THR!!!!
Wow look at all those English amps in an American room
stephen Dyson.Burrows those Orange amps have great tone and sound
And you are watching a Japanese amp demo...viva global market!
We love British amps here in the US. That EL34 sound. Personally, I can't stand the 6L6 sound so common in American amps.
Elvis japanese amp made in china ;)
Try this amp out for yourself. Honestly, it's actually better than what this video suggests. I own a THR10 and I'm absolutely staggered by it
all sound awesome and I hope his mixer like to like you
If I was already in a band I would buy that amp.
if its not in the chain, then why is it responding to the sound?