Oppressor Mk2 Direct Pre-Nerf/Post-Nerf Comparison | Rocket Tracking & Countermeasure Delay
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For some reason the timer was sped up 2x. So the countermeasure increase is really from about ~10 seconds to ~20-21 seconds
Still nothing significant
It's a significant nerf, no question about that. But when showing how the missiles track now, half of the time you were firing before the lock-on was fully set. So that's a little disingenuous.
Still a great change either way though.
Where's weekly update vid?
@@MrKruger88 it’s not, the mk2 never needed a hArd lock (fully red)
It's kind of lazy tbh why does only the oppressor mk2 get this nerf. the torador, scramjet, vigilante, deluxo also need it to balance the game
As a guy who uses the MK2 for transport, it doesnt really matter to me the fact that they nerfed it. As long as the speed is the same, im fine.
I’m devastated loved griefing people in my oppressor mk2 now im bring out the jet
@@Amzyy get rekt
@@Amzyy You don't love using commas though.
@@Amzyy u wrote this just to annoy us didn't u😏😏
@@mrduck7957 👏🏻👏🏻
About 20 minutes ago a guy on a mk2 came to me, got down from the bike and shot me with a homing launcher. I admire the spirit
Lmao we're getting somewhere
Lol wow. I thought free-aim isn't affected
those homing launchers are useless. You'd be quicker trying to feed it to someone than shoot them with it
good
they better not use that fucking bike
I have a feeling all this did was breath more life back into the Deluxo, however it is a big target, slow, and has no countermeasures so maybe it evens itself out
The Deluxo's only really dangerous in skilled hands, we all know griefers lack skill otherwise maybe they'd fight fair and not flee like a little bitch
Yeah a heavy sniper with explosive rounds should sort it out
Not if you know what you doing with the deluxo somebody thats really skiiled its really over for mk2 oppressors now 🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️
Go check out Deluxo missile dodge, you will get your minds blowed.
@@Uncomfortableanduglytruth but the deluxo isnt just noobshit: it has op missiles but it has a way bigger hitbox than the mk2 so you can shoot it out of the sky without sweating like a freak
Still perfectly viable for money grinding - seems like a great nerf to me.
No
@@lonelyfinger L + ratio
@@nathxcalo L
@@nathxcalo this isn't twitter my guy this is youtube
If this isn’t pure sarcasm he doesn’t know what 2+2 is
The fact that the tracking missiles were so op that it became a griefing toy that greifers use to destroy lvl 1 players but now it’s more of a useful transportation to use in missions or traveling
its been 4 years im waiting for this nerf, as an og from gta online
It’s still too overpowered imo. Needs to have missiles removed completely
@@garrylong2993 Or atleast like only 10 or less missiles
@@garrylong2993 considering its priced at 8 mil it should be op
That Opressor nerf is terribly long overdue, but still good nonetheless because I still think they're useful for missions or grinding so overall, good stuff.
I hope all those many players who left years ago because of the MK2 will finally return. GTA was becoming more empty each year.
Totally unfortunate it took so long. That vehicle caused the remaining members of my crew to quit the game a long time ago. We were just grinders not big on pvp.
Remember that it was a way to force you into buying shark cards, giving people op weapons to blow your cargo up...now that they made their money they're acting like "oh yeah I'm your buddy".
But now you can do sell missions in solo lobby
90% of this update is years overdue.
For those saying that the tracking didn't need to be changed i digress, you can easily do pve with it like anything else that shoots rockets the sparrow represents that point strongly, now for the grifers no they won't "adapt" or "get used to the tracking"when things like the ruiner, vigilante, deluxo, stromberg, scramjet, and toreador exsist you are all forgetting these vehicles had higher teir missiles from the start ( besides the strom and toriador) even pre nerf oppressor with chaff being nerfed the stromberg and toreador will swat this thing out the sky like it's predisesor. The missiles being nerfed gives more vehicles a chance to fight without really needing changes on their end.
Also: if you want better missiles on a flying vehicle use the deluxo... -_-
I mean the Toreador has infinite missiles.
Another thing is now players can finally enjoy flying helicopters in peace, i liked flying around in the hunter doing some missions like Head hunter...... Also its now alot less risky to sell goods in big lobbies..... Finally no more raging kids hoping on a mk2 to grief u after u counter their shitty attempt at griefing
Don’t tell them about the deluxo they’ll go back to that since it was always better than the mk2 from the start
@@Evangelical. idk i have a easier time dealing with deluxo, just get out if my vehicle and snipe it with explo ammo
@@goliathmb18 imagine using explo ammo in 2022 lol
I remember a few years ago (havent played this game in ages because I only enjoyed flying planes and I'd always get shot down by some jackass and their flying bike) I was in a mission and my character doesnt have a lot of ammo, never really needed too much since all i did was fly, but the mission had me take out a gang guarding a package on the ground by Trevor's Hangar. I was outnumbered, well outgunned, running low on ammo, and absolutely lost to how i was going to kill all the thugs, which there was atleast 30. Then out of the blue, a deluxo appeared overhead, and started raining hell on the thugs after me. I did not know the player, nor did I know gta 5 had the back to the future car in it. Over the mic, my buddy playing with me was on the way to help, asked how i was doing. I was in awe, the damn car iced everybody then flew off, didnt troll me just flew in to help. And that's the story of how a flying Delorean saved my life.
However still the biggest shutdown for modders and griefers will be the fact K/D is no longer affected in freemode.
I can't wait to see the effect XD
Wait until I use my jet 😂
but no more kd farming for no reason
@@DanDaFreakinMan modders usually
use their little mod menu to loop explode everyone
you can have fun griefing but some sick people only care about kd and they spend the time increasing that number instead of actually playing the game
i know it would be basically impossible but i wish that they could of made it so it’s a worse missle tracking only against players because i use the mk2 for missions
That's what I was thinking
Or just disable lock-on against players but not NPC's...... no missle nerf nesc..... pointless nerf....
Good point
@@mpc007 they should have done that to all the jets too, because the MK2 was a great defense against jet greifers. This update is "meh" for me, the things i wanted, didnt get touched
No one cares
I've been using the buzzard for pve for the past few years so i'm pretty much used to it's missiles. Since oppressor is now an "easier to drive" buzzard, i find it's missiles quite easy to use
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Since now you can dodge MK2 Rockets on MK2 easily, opressor fights will be very interesting unlike before when players were just firing one rocket at each other and both die
Imagine people who bought oppressor just a day before it got nerfed 😂
@@rahulverma8774 me lmfao
No
I've just done a mk2 1v1. It wasn't interesting. It was stupid and boring.
@@kayla-Rey22 why are all of your comments upset that people are happy about the nerf?
I hope this restores the community a little bit; I know so many people who just stopped playing because of the MK2
I'm about to stop playing because of the nerf to Cayos. There's no other comparable way of making money.
@@benculbertson536 I mean I never rly cared I got bored doing the same mission over and over. I like to do it occasionally with some friends but I rly don’t like grinding any specific money making method
@@hugehoglilnuts2905 and that's fine for you. Don't know why solo players had to get penalized though.
@@benculbertson536 yeah it was def uncalled for
i ONLY kept playing because i have it- now i shoot a missile at a CPU on a motorcycle, locked on 5 times in a row and missed all of them. The MK2 isnt even viable anymore. just for transport now- what the hell is it worth 4 mil still then ??? should be less then because the rockets aint even good actually they are terrible now. if you can help me find a way to sell my mk2 please help me out. thank you so much
A lot of people just stoppped playing online sessions and went solo just because of this thing , I know a lot of people that stopped playing the game in general because of oppressor. And also destroyed pretty much any creative way of air transportation, people stopped thinking the best way to go there take heli take airplane , so it became less skilled based. But now it is actually fun again to go online session
Didn't they also go to FiveM?
We did it boys, oppressor is no more
Let's touch tips in celebration
@UCrouTKTs__ktUXtLLTrOIRg ik not irony at all
Lmao it had about 4 years of straight dominating tho
@@sgtthicc go play Fortnite
@@tiredinside which tips?
is it too much to ask for it to track the same on AI but be heavily nerfed for players, seems much more reasonable for a bike that is 3-4 mil… just me
This.... just disable lock on against players.......... lock on disable for all weaponized vehicles that are targeting players not NPC's.....
I dont see this as a problem, now you can use other vehicles for missions,plus mk2 was too strong , now its imo perfectly balanced in pvp or pve compared to other rocket shooting things
the gold plane is 15mil, the yacht 10mil, the normal ignus is 3mil... still a bargain for a flying weaponized vehicle with that much maneuverability and speed lol just forces the griefer kids to actually get good at controlling it, not just spam missiles when they hear target lock-on. It will make the game a lot less frustrating imo
its a motorbike that can fly. without missiles its still op 🤷🏻♂️
Is it just too much to ask of you to use one of the other million weaponised vehicles you PAID for? Or do you just want to fly around clicking RB for the rest of eternity?
I genuinely hope that this nerf brings people back to the deluxo due to it having very similar missiles to the mk2 and having a similar speed/agility.
The deluxo feels so slow, cool car but I don’t like it. I’m still going to use the mk2 for Cayo Perico because it’s just that useful.
Mk 1 time
The Deluxo has the best missiles but it’s not near as fast or has countermeasures
Deluxo is slow af just hop in a jet
The Deluxo doesn't even remotely have the same speed, much less the same flexibility. Not that it needs to since it's a two-seater, which is a massive advantage over the Oppressor.
I think it still works fine its just the missile won't fully curve for you anymore instead you just have to line up your target better from behind then fire
2:20 It's literally a head on and still misses.
Shutup
@@PageAaron all he had to do was aim up
@@localmechanic3327 then you're just a good player, problem with the mk2 was even morons could do easy griefing
How it shoulda been
In short, they reduced the effective range of the missiles & increased the cooldown time for countermeasures. That's a pretty good nerf.
They should have done this years ago.
True
no
Please explain in what way it's good? Presumably, you can still fly down low to destroy a vehicle from behind and you can still free aim people on foot. So how is it good exactly?
@@kayla-Rey22 It makes taking that thing out with vehicles like The Deluxo, Fully Loaded Ruiner 2000, Stromberg, and Toreador much easier. Now every vehicle in the game can dodge the missiles with ease.
It's late but for this kind of monstruosity like the MkII it's never too late
People talk about tryhards ruining the game when Gta is actually falling apart because of the grinders, lobbies are gonna be dead because everyone’s gonna be in a private lobby selling stuff. The whole point of gta ‘Online’ is so u can interact with other players. Thank you grinders for officially making the game worse and even more boring 🙏
@@_BK.05 Yeh the problem with GTA is people playing the game for fun and with friends.
Totaly not people with a mental issue murdering others for no reason, griefing people with military grade weapons and vehicule, cheaters and modders.
You are a joke mate.
Better late than never I always say.
@@MathieuH96 theres a difference between "playing the game for fun" and "being a soulless nerd who isolates themselves in private lobbies and grinds 24/7"
@@ugIybot L + Ratio + Bozo + cope
Toreador: yes my time has come
Yokes on you, it got nerfed as well.
this tracking looks comparable to that of the MK I or even the sparrow. while i am glad it’s been nerfed, they’re still going to be quite formidable opponents, as the tracking is still somewhat decent - albeit nowhere near as good as before
its mk1 missiles
@n n SIKE, the toreador tracking also got nerfed
@@Alyzah don't joke like that..
This just means the Toreador and the Stromberg are going to hard counter the Mk II harder than before. They can outrun the missles, then bait the countermeasures and swat that fly out of the sky. Although, it'll still be quite strong.
Get a toreador
It's kind of crazy seeing the mk2 miss a target.
I feel like the mk1 opressor might become the griefers choice but it does require skill, so we have that on our side
Very cool autocorrect, thanks
Mk1 is chad only i doubt 9 year olds can handle such weaponry
@@ruty_bolzga424 like I said, it requires skill to use which is something they don't have
@@whatdoinamethis7963 LMAO
@@whatdoinamethis7963 i have mk1
@@stanleybochenek1862 good, you are prepared
I wish they kept the insane tracking only for npcs, and no tracking on players.
I wished so too but I knew it’s impossible
@@exoticboii5818 it's not impossible at all. just up to the misinformed whims of the devs.
How about you use your aim? Ever shot with a unaimed barrage missile? Makes much more fun if you are actually doing something and not letting the game do all the work. Since when got everyone so fuckin lazy?!
@@Bronyboiiiii "everyone is so lazy" mfs when i take all their guns and cars away so they have to physically run towards the target to punch them (now they suddenly feel lazy)
Then all the griefers will move to thermal jets?
Now everyone should be happy. Pvp player (like me) can finally play with vehicles, that require skill again (hunter, akula etc) and grinfer can still use the opressors accessebillity, speed and good moovement for grinding. You dont really need op missiles for npcs anmyway
”bUt nErVinG mk2 miSsiLeS wiLL mOStLy aFfEcT gRinDeRS.“ Tilorious, a YTer who, according to german helicopter pilots, should be ”vergast“.
Yeah, i know, some grinders cant or dont want to adapt (und ich als deutscher heli pilot finde das ebenfalls sehr traurig ;))
theres missions tht require u to take down choppers and the mk2 was perfect for that now it misses more often which uses more missiles
@@the_letti0584 that's not true in my 2 years of playing gta online i have seen about 4 or 5 people use mk 2's for grinding, literally 99% of people were just blowing people up for no reason.
@@Theworldisscrewed i thought it was common knowledge that random switching between capital and non-capital letters is used to make fun of what is written in this mixed letters form
Since I really only use the MK2 as a "Point A to Point B" ride, this change really doesn't impact me all that much. Except doing the Headhunter CEO missions will be a little less convenient.
also if you're skilled enough in a helicopter this nerf makes helicopters more appealing for contact and prep missions, I mainly used helicopters to begin with, only grinding I rely on the Mk2 for is crates and a couple heist preps but this really doesn't change much even for those it won't make things too inconvenient.
Get behind the cars and the missile nerf is inconsequential, the targets on foot shouldn't be much of an issue
@lxRaptorxl literally just why are your videos this cringe??
Today i got 3 mk2 grifers with deluxo, the nerf is really big, really.
You might want to look into the speed, I think that's been nerfed slightly too.
it was
This makes me feel more comfortable cruising around and not having to hover over passive mode.
💀💀Glad I'm not the only one that does that
@@taylorgregory610 Well, the new Obey 9F bro.... the new Obey 9F.... Finna be my new daily. 🙂
Now that I can sell in solo lobbies, I'll probably never play in public lobbies again so no need for passive mode.
Angry Stealth Akula noises!!!!!
Oh, I think you will. Even with the nerf the mk2 can still lock-on and destroy vehicles very easily. And free aming players on foot is just the same as it always was.
I have a feeling we will see deluxos in the skies next since they are flying cars with broken missiles
Still far better for everyone to counter than noobbike, Deluxo doesnt have the speed, agility and way to small hitbox from the broomstick, also it doesn't have countermeasures
At least you can hit them with a Explosive sniper and not summon them from the MC menu.
Tough i'm actually more worried of the Toredor for griefing.
@@thundereagle4130 torreador is also not that difficult to take out, you can use minigun or use the Up atomizer to spin it, then RPG or sticky bomb it. you can also use multiple stickys and prox mines near you and wait till he boosts at you and blow it up 😁
@Archer Cillian no problem, I recommend watching the YTber Putther for both fun content and PvP tipps and tricks, also he is a legit player and no tryhard 👍
I like the fact that they finally nerfed the missiles but now for say a headhunter they aren’t as great anymore it would be like using the buzzard
I've just used tryin out several of the new things, and against the cops, aaand...honestly, I couldn't tell much of a difference against ground targets. I was doing the speed glitch, flying over cop cars and the missiles still turned on themselves and destroyed every car I locked onto! Did a NC cargo mission and got the tug boat one. Not one missile missed on-foot targets, and I was flying around and even aiming different angles to test. Didn't notice a diff!
Same with me. Even when a vehicle had gone out of range just as I've shot the missile, still tracked them and got them. I've actually noticed my oppressor flys slightly faster now.
Speed glitch got patched years ago
@@kelluhhh6 the nerf was not applied for Xbox one and PS4. It only carried changes to it on the X/S and ps5 editions.
@@o1blooded223 u sure?
@@o1blooded223 : Perhaps it would help if you got your facts right before texting. I'm on ps4 and the nerf has definitely been applied on this platform.
Laughing with me sitting in my kosatka parked right next to my yacht with defences turned on whilst wearing thermal goggles
?
Best griefing method after frozen money orp
Exactly what I been doing since the kosatka dropped to hit griefers and tryhards.
Exactly what I been doing since the kosatka dropped to hit griefers and tryhards.
@@Signature-C no use it for griefing not the opposite
In my opinion, what they should've done is just remove the ability for homing missiles to track players to begin with, whether we're talking about the standard Homing Launcher or these aggressive ones. Uber Tracking Missiles are fine, if AND ONLY IF they cannot be used against other players.
As for my primary use of the Broomstick, it was really only Duggan Shipments that I used this thing regularly on, and even then I'm pretty competent with the cannon on the Hydra and Laser that it's not much of a concern, as long as I don't fly into the helicopter wreckage I cause.
bro ur allowed to be killed in gta ffs 💀 now everyone is gonna use a jet and make everything harder
@@onlyraff7768 At leat a jet takes more skill than the broomstick boy firing a missile every time they hear the lock-on sound.
Jets are also huge targets, to Explosive Heavy Sniper is a compelling option.
@@onlyraff7768 A jet requires knowing how to fly and aim downward at a player.
A MK2 controls as a car does while in the air and allows you to hit any poor guy who's simply on your screen, you don't even have to aim as long as they're in your vicinity. Being allowed to kill in GTA is fine, but in cheap ways is pathetic on the killers part.
😂 people like you complain about rockets that are not even op after the change 💀
Y’all genuinely have no idea how happy this makes us heli pilots.
No one cares
@@lonelyfinger you seem to
I still kill heli pilots with ease
Finally U can have a someone fair fight without being smashed away within seconds by an MK2
@@LNCRFT I kill with ease on the mk2
Thank God, I just hope the mk2 is still good for missions.
Its still great for griefing. So many idiots cried about the mk2 autolock when really after youve been killed once the spawn killing begins and that is all free aim. Big money on the screen update is fantastic eh.
@@notreal1477 yeahh
Oppressor ruined balance and variety in this game and yall used to complain while being a part of it 🤦♂️
@@notreal1477 gta community cry about everything. Thats why i always players for fun
@@Leaderofalunited i don’t complain the oppressor was fine as it was
I always detested from buying Mk2 oppressor so far as I've never even purchased the terrorbyte or the suppressor. Post nerf I now feel less inclined to uphold these boundaries towards these potentially useful and fun vehicles in gta. The concept of a rocket boosted motorcycle is now becoming more appealing to what i would call stuntman players online as other players may feel less traumatized when they see these on the map. Watch out for non homing missile greifers and godspeed
As someone that has had the mk2 since it released… I’ve literally only flew it for like 2 hours at most in thousands of hours. I’m always ashamed to be seen on it…
@@mr_expeditious its just a game
If people are traumatized over a game they shouldnt be playing it
@@dqdq7112 Tell that to everyone that has been complaining about mk2 for years ;) why not go god mode since it’s just a game :)
@@mr_expeditious or just be good enough at the game to not get clapped all the time. And learn to roll with the punches
Would you say missiles are now on par with the Buzzard? I'm feeling like it after some testing on bounty players (no cargo), its as you already show no longer fire and forget. You actually have to line up your shots. Countermeasures make that you can do one attack run and evade but no continuous. All good stuff.
Nope they sre still better then buzzard missiles. I would say that it is similar to Sparrow missiles: they are quite agile, you still need to calculate your shots so that each missile hits the target.
They are nowhere near the buzzard smh they still really good
Remember that the buzzard's missiles have a delay between 2 shots, making them a lot harder to spam
@@fraelitecagnin7628 but I free aim a lit with the mk2 so is the same
@@masoniclodge9947 thought sparrow was not that much better than the buzzard missiles but I could be wrong there. I pick sparrow only for convenience from the sub
Yet to test the deluxo, scramjet and toreador but I'm guessing they're untouched (as they should be)
Just an additional to my comment. The boosts in payouts across the board will result in more people being able to afford research (hopefully new players understand by now chumash is the best bunker) and with research comes explosive rounds. Now that the Opmk2 is nerfed, bigger vehicles like deluxo will take their place higher in the tier list. These vehicles can actually be hit by explosive rounds. It's an all round better balancing and healthy for the game.
Toreador my beloved
@@CrayonEater255 your beloved has risen out of the ashes
@TheAnimatedEverything I'm a scram-man myself but respect your godly style
It’s going to be hard to defend against a jet now with the Mk2
Probably gonna have to nerf the jet in a few months because everyone will be using that instead of the Mk2 lmao. Rockstar has made it easier for griefers now, the jet is much stronger than the Mk ever was.
@The King Not everyone has access to explosive sniper rounds.
Damn TGG, you work fast with only a few hours when the dlc came you already have a bunch of videos uploaded! This is why I always look for your channel when it comes to GTA stuff ^^
I know this man is smart he just clipped stuff from his stream that he did when the update came out
@@FrostyDeagz Ohh yeahh I was just commending his effort really and appreciating him giving his time to provide sufficient information about GTA Online in his channel. The dedication is just superb!!! 🫶💯
4 years... For 4 years I've been waiting for this nerf. Thank you Rockstar.
Please explain why? I am really interested because it doesn't seem to make any difference to griefing vehicles or people on foot. So what are you so happy about exactly?
@@kayla-Rey22 I am mostly happy because of the fact armed helicopters have a chance to survive now. Before you might as well jump out when you heard the lock on, now you can have a good challenge. I never wanted the mk2 to be sh*t, I wanted it to be balanced.
@@zennar1537 : Interesting you should mention helicopters because in the lobby tonight a couple of Sparrows were blowing up people on foot with missiles exactly the way mk2's do. Get rid of one griefing problem and it becomes a sh*t show. Also, a mk2 destroyed a special cargo vehicle. Nothing much has changed really.
@@kayla-Rey22Helicopters are pretty well balanced, while mk2s were not. Mk2s are much faster than a heli and can take advantage of obstacles to break the line of sight. If they couldn't take care of sparrows in the age of explosive sniper ammo or miniguns that's their own fault.
@@swilleh_ So use a Deluxo. Mk2's are completely useless against them now.
Honestly I feel like this nerf is genuinely going to be bad overall, the oppressor was generally not that hard to counter whereas itll now push more people to using the hydra and laser which is far more obnoxious when the person using them is good at flying
my god dude
Nah, jus use Boom Barrett and problem solved
So it’s a bad thing that people with skill are going to do good versus those who just hope in a bike and can one tap anyone? Hydra and Laser don’t even have CMs, let alone the small body profile of the OP MK2.
@@alih6804 you say it like the jet needs anything to stop missiles when it out runs them by simply turning, the difference being the jets have pin point accuracy on explosive machine guns that pretty much completely negates any semi explosive proof vehicle or vehicles with the Imani tech on them
@@poopfartmaximus9949 yeah agreed but its so stale having to use that ammunition when I could have far more fun just sniping people normally without having to switch out the ammo type just for some rat in a jet
All the people complaining about not being able to grind as effectively with the MK2 like yeah.... thats the point. You shouldn't just have a jack of all traits vehicle that makes every other vehicle in the game pretty much useless.
If you actually used the super cars, helis and jets you bought youd he surprised how much more fun the game is. Should have nerfed it more in my opinion because you're still going to get those human cancer cells who use the MK2 for PVP and are basically unstoppable in free aim lobbies and the speed being unchanged means there's still really no point in using anything else for grinding unless you're actually trying to "have fun" strange concept to GTA players, I know.
Exactly what I’m thinking
I’m actually surprised rockstar nerfed the M2. That’s a good sign so far
I haven't noticed hardly any difference against any NPCs... But R* sure did F up everything else though!! Money intake per hour just got madly nerfed...and I'm not talking about the Cayo either.
@@GrySgtBubba what are you taking about??
@@rubenc1004 Agency security contract payouts cut in half, payphone hits went from 85k to 50k, auto shop staff still udderly pointless, Lupe only does 2 crates...and takes about 30min to source (and you STILL have to go inside each warehouse, run up to her and have her source crates), sourcing NC cargo only gens 10k every 15min so not really much faster, MC club safe is only 5k and in 3hrs of playing it never increased to 10k like arcade or Agency or NC... And quite a but more
@@rubenc1004 Oh, btw, in 3+hrs of playing, I only received ONE customer motorcycle; whereas the auto shop generates a new customer car about 20-30min.
@@GrySgtBubba man i can’t believe it I actually thought this update would be good😔
Had my friend try to kill me in my sparrow to test it and he had a really hard time, almost ran out of missiles 😂 with the addition of chaff to the sparrow I’ll be jumping out of ALOT fewer helicopters
I think they should revamp the Explosives System in GTA Online...
My idea would be to separate the Explosives into "Tiers" to better balance them and make those tiers consistent, for example:
"Low Grade Missiles"
Low Tracking
Low Range
Low Capacity
Found on Civilian Type Vehicle equipped with weapons like Toreador, Opressor, Ruiner, etc...
"Medium Grade Missiles"
Medium Tracking
Medium Range
Medium Capacity
Found on Military Vehicles like Buzzard, B-11, Hunter, etc...
"High Grade Missiles"
High Tracking
High Range
High Capacity
Found on special vehicles like Kosatka, Chernobogg, Terrorbyte, etc...
The low tracking missiles doesnt have to be the borderline useless missiles that are present on the buzzard and the currently overpowered missiles like the OG Mk2 used to have should be exclusive to the special Anti-Air systems like the Chernobogg, its just a matter of balancing.
Capacity, by that i mean both the frequency of fire and the ammo, "Medium" capacity wpuld be infinite Ammo but delay in "Reloads" like the B-11 has Missiles on its wing, everytime you deplete those you gotta wait like a few seconds and they respawn, High capacity is no delay and infinite ammo and Low would be both a delay AND limited ammo, for example the Mk2 has 2 missiles on each side so that means after firing those 4 you gotta wait a few seconds, no lomger than 10 bit no shorter than 3.
That would be nice.
I would like to see different damage too. Doesn't make sense how a bottle-size missile from a Mk II can do as much damage as a pole-size missile from a Chernobog
@@DanDaFreakinMan indeed!
@@DanDaFreakinMan Nanomissiles Son!
I have been using the Oppressor MK2 since it came out, but I only use it as transportation that can be parked anywhere where there is solid ground. It effectively gets from one point to the other without reroutes. Basically, the nerf does not matter as long as it can fly. :)
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Honestly if u are pissed about the mk2 nerf, 1 u need to grow up and 2 just use the Toreador. It's a fast supercar with unlimited missiles that track very accurately
Griefers: WAAAAAAA Y AINT MY MISILES HITIIINNGGG!!!! 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Overall I’m very happy with the changes made to this flying piece of turd. It went from being a OP Destroyer to being a balanced bike, it won’t affect me either because I don’t use this bike to grief, just use it to get from point A to point B.
Same. I was just in a lobby like 30 minutes ago and there was literally , I swear to God a kid screaming down his mic because I kept shooting him off his oppressor he says “You’re hacking! my missiles can’t hit this son of b****, I’m reporting you for hacking”. I’m not a griefer, in-fact I’m the complete opposite I help people fight griefers. I never noticed the difference until I looked up I wouldn’t have known it had been nerfed to be honest
love this. finally i don’t have to worry about the broomsticks😭 unless they actually have skill. which is basically the point. it used to be spray and pray. now you have to kinda aim and time it. absolutely approve of this.
I've just been online and some player called X_D_a_d_o_o_X was going round free-aiming everyone on foot. In ten minutes he must have had 20 kills going round the same people over and over again. I just don't see how this nerf has made any difference to the main griefing problems. In what way do you not have to worry about mk2's?
well on person you are screwed i guess. but interns of being tracked in say a helicopter or something you’re less likely to be instakilled
@@kayla-Rey22 your basing this on 1 person being able to free aim with mk 2's with millions of players having a mk 2 who just killing people for no reason, this nerf is huge it stops the majority of players being able to kill players endlessly without skill just a fly by and blast, now that cant happen.
@@Theworldisscrewed : But it is still happening with jets strafing with exploding cannon and now also the Deluxos, Sparrows and other helicopters with missiles. And, actually, you are not altogether correct. Mk2's are still free aiming players on foot and it certainly isn't one player. In any lobbies I've been in mk2's have spent more time free aiming people on foot than they have destroying vehicles. The nerf has done nothing to stop that. Granted, it appears to be more difficult to destroy ground vehicles but I was in a lobby only last night when a mk2 destroyed a special cargo vehicle. And there are people already boasting on you tube that the nerf hasn't affected them in the slightest and they're still locking onto and blowing up vehicles. There is a very real danger that mk2 griefers will try all the more to destroy vehicles just to prove everyone wrong who thinks the nerf is going to stop them. Let's see what happens when mk2 griefers get used to the nerfed missiles before we start jumping for joy, eh? Additionally, from what I've seen so far, the mk2 nerf has opened up the door for every other vehicle with missiles to start griefing. They didn't do this very much before because there were too many mk2's around. And now that the new nerfed mk2 is no match for jet griefers what do you imagine is going to happen? Do you think they're suddenly going to become nice players and restrict their activities to dog-fighting with other jets? Good luck with that one.
This is a late edit. In the lobby I was in tonight there were several mk2's and three of them were blowing up cars. It looked all too easy. They just flew in behind them and destroyed them with one missile. I'm sorry, but if you think the nerf has stopped ground vehicle griefing then you're in for a shock.
@@kayla-Rey22 who cares you actually need to have skills to actually use the jet
Now jets are once again the king of sky with being bothered by mosquitoes
I think I can speak on behalf of the community to say this is a great change.
Well of course not for the griefers, hope they leave the game or get what they deserve from now on
And grinders
@@theempowerer5718 grinders are amazing Ik because I'm one of them lol I'm the reason a dude went from level 4 to 100 with 100m in the bank
Was a good way to annoy jet griefers tho, which will may multiply now
@@theempowerer5718 y'all be crying over grinders lmao, I guess you saw that one video too, the difference between grinders and griefers is grinders don't go out of their way to troll people. If grinders wanna make money, let them do what they want and stop complaining, they're not directly harming anyone
@@Yusuf12009 I'm saying this isn't good for grinder. I can consider myself a grinder. Griefing isn't gonna go away. Jets are still very difficult to counter especially during a sell mission. Nerfing the MK2 literally only hurts the grinder cuz griefers have a lot more tools if they want to which the obviously do.
The MK2 is still the best grinding vehicle in GTAO (no longer the best griefing vehicle tho) Don't let any clueless grinder (Tylarious) Tell you different
Griefers love the botmobile as for a tryhard it's either the Lazer or on the ground but screw griefers they nothing but wanna be's
Absolutely not fair they need to bring the old setup back or give our money back
This change only hurts people who grind using it.
facts
Lol noo it dosen t it hurts the griefers tho
As a pretty good MK2 pilot who griefs other greifers, I’m sorta sad since I basically put all my time on gta into learning the MK2 instead of the deluxo but I guess it was pretty deserved
Well deserved and long overdue unfortunately.
I feel like this just moved oppressor griefers to be pilots in jets, they did a “big” turn around for grinders :/.
Sad tht some of my investment on the mk2 went down the drain. I loved tht thing more than my toreador when it came to defences as i could hit targets much easier without worrying about being shut down. Especially for MC missions to defend my coke and meth vs cops
Hell having the mk2 gave me more survivability in freemode against others as no one with or without an mk2 would come near me which gave me a peace of mind as i would get targetted by doing absolutely nothing before.
Well, guess ill remain off the radar in akula now
It's a necessary evil. Beside, for doing missions it'd be mostly the same. It's still small and fast so most target still struggle to kill you on it. You just now have to have skill to fight other players
@@DanDaFreakinMan i dont do pvp though
@@hbshadow8981 then you got nothing to worry about. Those other MKIIs you worried about are also nerfed.
@@FunnieApple getting killed by toreador griefers now
2 toreadors yeet my torero and me for no reason...
@@hbshadow8981 griefing won't go away bro, even if all weapons and vehicles are nerfed also the Toreador is easy to take out compared to the MKII. I don't disagree that it and many other vehicles need a nerf but the MKII was a MAJOR problem in comparison to the rest.
I grinded for over a year and own pretty much everything. Stopped playing simply because of griefing, now that the MK2 is nerfed I think its time to come back. Never mind all the other quality of life changes with this new DLC. Never thought I'd say this " Good move Rockstar"
You can sell in invite only sessions now too
Me too man. It looks rockstar are beginning to listen to the community and make good decisions for balancing and stuff
I can finally drive my mystery machine in peace!
NO MORE LITTLE TIMMY ON MK2! xD
Still can be used for griefing ground targets easily people are forgetting ground target greifing will still be as easy as it was pre nerf
Yeah I got killed 30 times on the ground just minding my business, every time I spawned they would just fly over to me kill me again. I had no time to call a vehicle or anything
😂 then you can stop playing they nerfed it that much as it was needed if you think its too op still you think 2+2 is 3
@@legendary9842 I mean I’m a bit of a freight I was just trying to remain neutral in this comment section
They could do the missiles differently, like PvE and PvP. In PvE, the missiles are way more accurate, while in PvP they'd be like they are right there
Still, Rockstar and sort of the players don’t want a vehicle as strong as the mk2 in grinding areas of pvp
Unfortunately, they're too lazy to do it properly.
Are u literally too bad at the game to use the normal homing missiles??? Like they do the job but you have to position urself at a somewhat decent angle (nothing too difficult, right?)… Other players did that all the time and EVEN MANAGED TO LAND THE SPARROW WITHOUT BLOWING UP!!!! Is this seriously something only cheaters can do from the point of view of you mk2 players?
@@the_letti0584 damn bro it ain't that deep chill out
@@the_letti0584 That's not the point. Accurate missiles were what made the mk2 an extremely efficient grinding tool. It's a question of speed and time saved. Time is money. Dispatching enemies quickly meant more money.
I always felt like when I used an oppressor mk2 that the tracking was never good. Like when it passed that helicopter in that first shot mine would just gone straight and not turn around like that. So idk if I would even have noticed it 🤣🤣🤣
this is a good change to reduce griefing but I think griefers will go back to the deluxo
Deluxo is slower so it's easier to evade.
The deluxo was never really good and have many counters
TBH, these griefers might go back to using the lazer.
@@RT88414 use explosive sniper ammo
Ah, the end of an era
This is a good thing....now they need to reduce the speed on those missiles and we'll be set.
Speed
This makes you realise how op it was
Lies - It was always Completely op. and everyone knew it.
This is good cus now there’s going to be so much more different kinds of cars like deluxo’s helicopters’ and even oppressor mk1’s which are far superior in certain categories compared to the oppmk2. I really only use it for grinding so the nerf won’t affect me
everything you just named is not as fast mk2
Deluxo is ass. The best part of a mk2 is the speed. I don't mind the missile nerf but the counter measures nerd is insane.
@@Thelastairbendy multiple helicopters are faster
@@bigdeboatl23 Deluxo missiles are now better after this update. Also was always the best vehicle to evade mk2 missiles. Should be even better after this update since mk2 got nerfed. It's just not as fast
@@user-ys7bn5vi1v are they faster to disembark. Oh
deluxo is gonna rise up back up and that's bad for us since the deluxo has deadlock missiles which means they can turn 360° in other words meaning they will turn right around after missing
tbh it doesn't matter anymore you can do everything on invite only servers so if you go on a public session its like your asking to be griefed.
The griefers will be staring at the screen right now through tears 🥺😭 lool
This kinda sucks for me as a player due to the fact that I only use the oppressor for missions and sells and work n what not, never used it to grief others or just wail on lower levels, kinda sucks
Sparrow is good for missions
But it's still not a bad choice. The nerf really only impacted the turning radius on ridiculous shots, so it's still very possible to aim the damn thing it's not like it's going to do silly straw patterns, just stand behind your target and it'll hit it.
Too bad
Yesterday I shot down an Oppressor MkII with my sparrow by gaining altitude quickly and taking them out. It’s easier to aim down then aim up in most flying vehicles.
Finally sounds like free roam might actually be a realistic proposition to enjoy / earn money without being attacked by the Mk2 or K/D farmers.
The only question mark is what will the griefers move to now the MK2 isn’t as effective?
Probably toreador jets
They’ll move to jets like the b11 which is really good for air to ground any dogfights
Must be toreador, its all rounder, good for killing npc and people too, but ofc with irmani tech theres a bit more skill to this compared what we had before
*griefer laughs in orbital blast go brr*
What about the deluxo? It has 30 missiles which ALWAYS hit their target.
Rockstar had the right idea for this nerf but the took it in the wrong direction. What they should’ve done is not allow the missiles to lock onto other players and keep them the same strength. If I’m trying to do a mission or a setup I usually use the mk2 because it easily kills enemy’s and it’s also very fast. This nerf makes it 10x harder for me to easily kill the enemies and it will be very tedious trying to get the missiles to hit the targets. Rockstar needs to fix this because if they do only allow it to lock onto npcs or cops it will still not be as strong. It takes no skill to fire a lock-on missile at a random player but it actually takes skill and is difficult to use non-homing missiles and kill someone. That is my take on this.
Lmao just say ur bad at the game
I’ve just added the Hows special works upgrades to my Benefactor Sterling GT and it’s now BULLETPROOF!
I've had times where instead of it tracking and curving against npc targets and it just goes straight and doesn't even curve. I get that they don't want it to be OP but it's now kind of annoying.
This brings a smile to my face :)
Best update in the past 3 years
Not really but okay. The update was garbage lol and know u will be getting killed by jet people like I was and the have aimbot congratulations.
@@austinthegamer55 they’ll cry about jets then lol
@Ilyushin for MK II lovers it's surely the worst, yes. Jets are far easier to counter especially with MK II sniper rifle
@Ilyushin are you trying to say it's easier to counter an Oppressor than a jet?
Explain why. You can still grief cargo and unarmed vehicles and you can still freeaim people on foot. What exactly has this nerf done to make you so happy?
I wonder wtf made them take so long. It's not like it wasn't very extremely well-known that the MK2 was stupid-OP. It was like 800x anything else. Even griefers were long since bored of using it. Yea, you could escape/kill the stupid ones, but if you knew how to play, you could legitimately never be killed while using one.
That’s not really true, there where many vehicles that countered the oppressor mk2.
@@corn.3892 No there weren't. If you weren't braindead, you could always stay behind a Toreador, or a Ruiner. Fully-Loaded Ruiner was practically invulnerable, but there was a time limit and you could always be out of range of any of them. You were never the prey. There were faster fliers, but none that could match the missiles.
Eventually they'd have to just leave because the instant they tried to run something, they were a target.
Basically, if you had the capacity for nuance and patience in any weapon, you could do way more on the MK2 than any other.
Instead of ruining the best vehicle in the game they should have simply made it so that we cannot fire missiles at other players .
This way it would not have been nerfed at all and still remained very fun and useful for grinders
Thats why k/d warriors used it so much, its TOO eazy to kill someone with it, now they need to use bigger vehicles, or actually start using skill and kill people in game modes where it actually counts
Man said best vehicle? Its so boring how? Please tell me
Or you just use your aim with unaimed missiles. Ever heard of that?
Man I'm gonna miss the opressor it was good while it lasted
They should make it so the old tracking is only against npc’s while the new tracking is for players
I agree that would help for the grind
SO SWEET TO SEE MK2 HITTING NOTHING, I EVEN CLAPPED AND CHEERED!
The happiest gta moment. 🍻🍾
Next update they should delete the entire thing from the game
@@Kaledrone true but what about grinders who use it in missions lol?
@@stanleybochenek1862 thruster, Mk1, sparrow, ceo helicopter
@@Check_Vibe0 and don't forget stromberg and toreador
I think they nerfed the cooldown too much, around 30 seconds should be good, 50 is way too much
Meh the counter measures was already an unnecessary addition to an already OP vehicle. I would go my way to just remove it even
Finally. Now I can use my Deluxo without having to worry about the Oppressor Mk2 shooting me down. Only have to worry about another Deluxo in the skies.
Yeah but it has limited missiles and if they're gonna be missing a lot your gonna run out fast
Now when someone says they use the MK2 for grinding, they mean it... lol
Of course this means every griefer is going to switch to a jet now. Better stock up on E-rounds.
Good point, at least with the lazer it’s a bigger target compared to the mk2 which should mean you should be able to destroy it with explosive rounds especially if you have good aim. Another thing Rockstar can do to is also make ghost organization have a timer of at least every 30-45 minutes to use it so they can’t kill you if you don’t know where they are hiding off radar. That change won’t be a problem for the players that are gonna have fun selling in invite lobbies.
I'll take fighting jets over mk2s any day. When someone kills me with a jet I don't even get mad I'm just happy that they actually want to have a fight and not just abuse whatever is most overpowered to just spawn kill you. Once you have E-rounds its pretty much GG for jets anyway.
I hope you're right, cause the one thing I'm good at in this game is dogfighting >:)
And to all those griefers that’ll still play this game even with the mk2 broomstick or not, they are the reason the mk2 lock on missiles got nerfed in this update. Either way we can just have fun again making money from the businesses in invite lobbies either by ourselves or with crew members or friends, making money just became peaceful again.
@@rougeHuntress lmfao sad cuz bad
All the chumps on these flying broomsticks can sell them and get a bit of their money back.
While I understand nerfing the mk2, I don't think this is the right choice. While this will reduce most griefing, anyone who learns to compensate the tracking or learns to dumbfire the missiles properly gets free reign, and you won't really be able to use the mk2 to defend yourself from griefers anymore.
I mean look in the first clip. A slow moving car, and the missile coming from above still can't hit it. Even some misses on a stationary target. That seems more like a punishment to people who use the mk2 for missions. While it would probably be out of scope to have 2 sets of tracking between NPCs and players, I would be perfectly fine with keeping the tracking the same, but disabling tracking on the mk2 against players unless they are hostile, since we already have a target filter for that in the interaction menu.
No this is the best possible way it never dersevered missiles like that to begin with disabling trackinf while a good idea rockstar would probably end up just messing it up bc of how brain dead and lazy they are
@@allseeingeye3182rockstar shouldn’t even have added it or they should’ve made the missles not that good in the start
Honestly having these new missile tracking is great and I feel like it may affect grinding it isn't gonna hurt too much for air to ground but air to air it'll suffer more at
or just remove this noobbike and buff thruster a little bit. It's not op compared to this dumb bike.
Should've made the mk2 rockets a 2 shot kill as it doesn't really make sense that this tiny bike has the same missiles as a fighter jet or attack helicopter. In fact I'd like to see a whole rework on the damage done by different vehicles missiles based on how they would actually work in real life which would create a lot more diversity for different vehicles in different situations.
The 2 shot mk2 missiles would also prevent the second main problem with the mk2 in that its basically an unstoppable killing machine on ground targets for anyone who has practiced for more than 5 minutes with the free aim rockets. You can literally spawn trap someone so hard they can't even blow themselves up in time and this does nothing to change that.
Bruh even the mk1 is better than the mk2 now lets gooo mk1 for life🔥
I haven’t driven my mk1 as much recently but it’ll fun to use it again.
I feel like they didn’t nerf the missles enough because the mk2 somehow still hit my fh-1 when I was fighting a mk2 user
Amazing and so happy that flying pest been nerfed
I was playing yesterday and some donut decided to grief me for about 20 minutes by remote control driving a Buffalo STX with mounted guns on the front. Blowing it up was costing me 10k every time, so clearly not every weaponised vehicle is included in the "no insurance penalty" change Rockstar made
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So the missiles weren’t nerfed, they were made completely fucking useless unless the target isn’t moving, I’m glad
I think grifers will just change to jets but for that we will need to wait 2 or 3 months so 9 year old kids can learn how to kill with jets and how to control them
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My friend always used the MK2. He had a stable k/d of 2.4. Since the nerf his kid dropped to 1.7. And yes, he is one of those people who just spamm homing missiles at you till you die.
okay so free kills against air targets are gone. but you can still get the pro strafers who will rack up the kills on you on the ground
It’s worth noting to you that payphone hits have been stealth nerfed. Far as I’m aware, the payouts for bonus challenges have been cut in half. Once I got 170 thousand in total, now I only got 85 thousand for the same hit, meaning that this is no longer a viable option to grind money in place of the Cayo perico nerf.
It was on double money for the past few weeks before the update dummy 🤣
@@rabd9881 was it? I was never informed.