They were already existing rules that were too narrow in scope. The language should read 'at the time of entry' to cover situations such as this. I'm willing to bet some runner-up found this information and demanded that they be elevated in rank because of a rule violation. Losers do this every day.
What a crummy thing to do… sorry Amanda. You deserve to retain your title and all benefits. You won fair and square, their mistake shouldn’t penalize you. You seem to be a lovely young lady. Be proud of what you’ve done. You’re a true winner!
@@drsw4187 I agree she should think about it before you compete in your state pageant if they find out you are the winner they can strip you and dethroned you and take your state crown from you is the rules you should read the rules and guidelines and you disappoint your state director and your state of Utah they are disappoint in you what you done
I read where the pageant officials said it wasn't there fault because it was a clerical error. That's BS. The pageant officials sent out a document which clearly stated if you were born in 2005 you were eligible to participate and that requirement was later changed to 2006. It doesn't matter who made the error, if there was one, or who changed the criteria and failed to notify contestants. Whoever is in charge of the pageant ostensibly approved her participation and the responsibility stops there. She should be given the title and whatever benefits are associated with it. She has reported that she would like to retain the title and would recognize that the second place contestant would go on to represent at the next level. Now, they have put her in a very bad position where some people may think she did the wrong thing or was a troublemaker because she wanted to retain the title. I think they should apologize and do exactly what she requested. Anything short of that should be handled by the parent organization and the whole local committee terminated. Although I don't generally advocate legal action, if this case isn't handled appropriately I would take it to court and make then pay accordingly - all expenses.
THis is simple contract law. SHe signed a document stating 2005, pagent cannot alter the contract on a whim nor without her consent. She should sue, and she would win. pagent needs to learn the law and learn that there a financial and public repercussions for their unlawful actions
Perhaps someone complained that the winner seemed too similar to the maturity and beauty level of a young Miss America contestant. I think they wanted to eliminate any crossover of eligibility between the teen and miss america pageant and also to ensure that the state winners would still be eligible for the national Miss Teen America pageant.
Didn't they know her birthdate when she signed up for the competition? It's their fault if they accepted her, they should not be able to reverse it, next time they have to make sure THEY don't accept girls that are too old! It's their responsibility and job, to do their job, before the competition.
Shouldnt it be their responsibility to check all contestants out BEFORE THE PAGEANT. Appears someone in charge is NOT doing their due diligence of their own job of being in charge.
She should participate in the adult one and win first place again. Sending well wishes Amanda - keep your head up - you don't need a physical crown to let us know you're a Queen, the way you handled this shows you have a lot of grace.
According to the eligibility document they wanted to make sure that the contestants were at least 13 years old at the time of the pageant and under 18 by the time of the conclusion so that there would be no crossover of eligibility between the miss teen pageants and the Miss America pageants. Ultimately, the scholarship is more important than the physical crown and sash but since Miss Giraldi stated that she wanted to keep the title for a period of time, she might have been better served by consulting her parents who may have gotten legal advice that could have justified a refusal to hand over the physical tiara and sash, especially since there is a copy of the document proving her eligibility at the date of her signature. Anyway, Amanda Giraldi is a princess and pageant winner to me.
Sue them. It's utter 🐂. They allowed her to compete. The error lies with the competition itself on several levels: 1. She was provided wrong information. A. Find out how many other competitors were allowed entry that also would have been disqualified. B. Find out if in fact any competitors are holding rules showing the age change that can be proved to have been in their possession before that Monday the change appeared on the website. C. This rule must have been decided upon via some governing body, make them provide proof of documentation with verifiable dates that match the March change. And besides, why would you wait until 3 months before the pageant to change eligibility requirements? 2. The pageant didn't enforce the rule... A. ...upon entry of competition. I assume an application process is in place. And some member of pageant committee has to sign off on the girls applying. Find out if any girls got denied entry for any reason and what were they. B. ...other girls that fit her age description, you can bet, also did not get stopped from entry by the pageant. C. ...at some point during the event, especially as they are getting the field narrowed down, there would have to be a final check say at the final 10. Why have ineligible candidates within that group? That's also on them for NEVER revisiting the forms for compliance. D. ...when they allowed her to win. Again, at bare minimum, you would rule out all worst case scenarios before you tapped a winner. E. ...and if they never gave a darn about qualifications the whole way through, why AFTER it's over? Find out who made the call to update the website and why. What "qualifying girl's" family took the time to find out her birthday, then have enough pull to complain to officials and to seek Justice? And whoever it was, how petty? And lastly, what kind of example does this set not only for young women but anyone involved with this pageant? The moral here, according to their chosen outcome: Even if a mistake is CLEARLY your fault, take the lowest road possible in order to pretend to do the "right thing" and break this amazing young lady's heart, nullify her obvious victory, which could have career or opportunity ripple effects in a negative way. But you see if the pageant actually cared to do the right thing they would have been 💯 making completely sure everyone knew the recently changed criteria well before the end. Hmmm why? Well less contestants would have been involved. Less entry fees, less audience ticket revenue, less advertising revenue in the programs, less concessions sold, less parking sold... If they had any class, the only a few options would be: 1. Too bad. She wasn't prevented and she did nothing wrong. Totally different if she was trying to get over on them, which she wasn't. Leave the title solely with her. 2. Share the title. Just for one year, there are two equal winners. 3. For next year only, let EVERY contestant who were the oldest possible without "breaking the new rule" compete again if desired, even if they then would be breaking the rules next year. Then, more, new rules back in place. I bet if she happened to be trans it would be fine to win, but not if you are a few months past the age. Months of time vs gender switching and somehow we know one is closer to not making sense in the spirit of the competition but we also know it wouldn't matter to the pageant. Hey kiddo, many are sorry for you. You are doing a good thing by sharing your experience.
Sorry for what happened to you, Amanda, but welcome to the ugly competitions behind the scenes at the events where pretty ladies show off their skills and looks. It seems that they did not like you winning at the higher level and used that technical issue to take the tittle away from you. That is how these events are so often rigged, do not give up in your dreams, just be aware of the many underhanded things that can happen in them in the future.
Because if they let this one slide, it'll happen again and folks will wonder why they let this one slide and not the other. Eventually changing the rules because someone wanted the rules to be bended to fit their needs. There's rules and there was a mistake which they admit, what I'm detecting here with this girl is she is once again feeling like she should get whatever she wants. By the looks of that kitchen she's in, I doubt she's ever heard the word No before in her life. And this is the first time someone has said No to her and she is having a tough time coping with such alien language.
@@OregonCrow , if the issue was her complaining with no reason after the facto and she was aware of the change, I could agree that she seems well the kind of person who was never disappointed in life. But, the wrongdoing comes in the part of the event officials in this case, sorry so even as seemingly self entitled as she looks , she was wronged.
Sounds like another competitor's mom probably did some slouthing... But rules are rules. But they should have caught the mistake in the beginning and since they didn't they should have honored her title.
Classy and very composed young woman. This is a shame and seems very petty in a nation where MEN are allowed to compete in as women. I hope and have no doubt she will go on to achieve continued success in life in spite of this unfortunate decision.
The pageant committee can't relinquish her crown after the age discovered error!!! But I hope the pageant officials discovered their own mistake and return her crown, only fair!!!
If this was my daughter I would be on fire ! If they made the mistake & still wanted to put someone else on the throne they better get a very wide chair because it would be the only year of two Miss Utahs. The pageant would loose money but they should never hurt a young teen how terrible,this is ridiculous. If they had two for this year they would have to work on the schedule but you can not take the title away because you made a mistake . Poor child , life isn’t always fair for sure, but the adults who run the show better fix this !
Because if they let this one slide, it'll happen again and folks will wonder why they let this one slide and not the other. Eventually changing the rules because someone wanted the rules to be bended to fit their needs. There's rules and there was a mistake which they admit, what I'm detecting here with this girl is she is once again feeling like she should get whatever she wants. By the looks of that kitchen she's in, I doubt she's ever heard the word No before in her life. And this is the first time someone has said No to her and she is having a tough time coping with such alien language.
We have to look at the BIG PICTURE. Come on Man... What the world needs now is COMMON SENSE. "EVERYBODY". You make exceptions and you set a legal precedent. New should tell both sides of the controversy. (Shame) People make mistakes. You have to be the bigger person and look at the president you are pushing. You were compensated very well. People need to think and look at the bigger picture. Look at our politics today. We need common sense. STOP, STOP, STOP THE NONSENSE. Your feeling was hurt I know, You will have bigger opportunities just because of this. You made the NEWS CYCLE.
So it's a miss teen Utah competition. 19 is a teen age....if 13 year old can compete, why can't 19 year old's? Regardless, the paperwork was filled out far in advance, so she should be grandfathered in based of the forms she signed when entering. Truthfully, I would expect something like this coming out of an organization that is influenced by people like Trump for many years.
These morons running the pageant screwed it up they should let it go. But the reality of the situation is the lawsuits they would be facing if they didn't do what they did. You have to ask the question did this girl know she was too old to be in the pageant? More then likely she did. I'm sure she knows when her birthday is and she had to have access to the rules in the application process. She's not so innocent. That's why shes not filing a lawsuit.
Uh, you're too old. The end. There's no mystery there. You're either within the age or you're not...or you enter hoping they let you enter due to making a mistake, which means you're a cheater. You cheated and got caught, so deal with it. They sounded like they were nice as hell to the cheater. Give your crown to the runner up and apologize. They owe you nothing. They'll still let you compete in other competitions, so that's considerate of them. Read the directions more thoroughly next time. Rules are rules, you can't expect rules to be bent for you!! I'm tired of these people.
Grow up. She is not a cheater. She followed the rules and her paperwork was approved showing the date of 2005; matching the date on the document she received. They later changed the date without notifying her. Your interpretation is exactly why she should sue them.
You just can't suddenly change the rules after the fact.
They were already existing rules that were too narrow in scope. The language should read 'at the time of entry' to cover situations such as this.
I'm willing to bet some runner-up found this information and demanded that they be elevated in rank because of a rule violation. Losers do this every day.
What a crummy thing to do… sorry Amanda. You deserve to retain your title and all benefits. You won fair and square, their mistake shouldn’t penalize you. You seem to be a lovely young lady. Be proud of what you’ve done. You’re a true winner!
She never should have applied for the pageant, she does not deserve anything for someone else's clerical error.
@@drsw4187 I agree she should think about it before you compete in your state pageant if they find out you are the winner they can strip you and dethroned you and take your state crown from you is the rules you should read the rules and guidelines and you disappoint your state director and your state of Utah they are disappoint in you what you done
I read where the pageant officials said it wasn't there fault because it was a clerical error. That's BS. The pageant officials sent out a document which clearly stated if you were born in 2005 you were eligible to participate and that requirement was later changed to 2006. It doesn't matter who made the error, if there was one, or who changed the criteria and failed to notify contestants. Whoever is in charge of the pageant ostensibly approved her participation and the responsibility stops there. She should be given the title and whatever benefits are associated with it. She has reported that she would like to retain the title and would recognize that the second place contestant would go on to represent at the next level. Now, they have put her in a very bad position where some people may think she did the wrong thing or was a troublemaker because she wanted to retain the title. I think they should apologize and do exactly what she requested. Anything short of that should be handled by the parent organization and the whole local committee terminated. Although I don't generally advocate legal action, if this case isn't handled appropriately I would take it to court and make then pay accordingly - all expenses.
Exactly 💯
Well said!
I couldn't agree more.
THis is simple contract law. SHe signed a document stating 2005, pagent cannot alter the contract on a whim nor without her consent.
She should sue, and she would win. pagent needs to learn the law and learn that there a financial and public repercussions for their unlawful actions
Seems like they wanted someone ELSE to win!! So they found a loop hole to cut her out!
Glorified bs competition
Perhaps someone complained that the winner seemed too similar to the maturity and beauty level of a young Miss America contestant. I think they wanted to eliminate any crossover of eligibility between the teen and miss america pageant and also to ensure that the state winners would still be eligible for the national Miss Teen America pageant.
Didn't they know her birthdate when she signed up for the competition? It's their fault if they accepted her, they should not be able to reverse it, next time they have to make sure THEY don't accept girls that are too old! It's their responsibility and job, to do their job, before the competition.
It's those in charge it's terrible she got the crown and had to give it back wow
Shouldnt it be their responsibility to check all contestants out BEFORE THE PAGEANT. Appears someone in charge is NOT doing their due diligence of their own job of being in charge.
She should participate in the adult one and win first place again.
Sending well wishes Amanda - keep your head up - you don't need a physical crown to let us know you're a Queen, the way you handled this shows you have a lot of grace.
Take that scholarship, Amanda.
According to the eligibility document they wanted to make sure that the contestants were at least 13 years old at the time of the pageant and under 18 by the time of the conclusion so that there would be no crossover of eligibility between the miss teen pageants and the Miss America pageants. Ultimately, the scholarship is more important than the physical crown and sash but since Miss Giraldi stated that she wanted to keep the title for a period of time, she might have been better served by consulting her parents who may have gotten legal advice that could have justified a refusal to hand over the physical tiara and sash, especially since there is a copy of the document proving her eligibility at the date of her signature. Anyway, Amanda Giraldi is a princess and pageant winner to me.
ty for reading the lengthy comment. have a great day
A month? Really? She wasn’t trying to trick anyone 🙄
Sue them. It's utter 🐂. They allowed her to compete.
The error lies with the competition itself on several levels:
1. She was provided wrong information.
A. Find out how many other competitors were allowed entry that also would have been disqualified.
B. Find out if in fact any competitors are holding rules showing the age change that can be proved to have been in their possession before that Monday the change appeared on the website.
C. This rule must have been decided upon via some governing body, make them provide proof of documentation with verifiable dates that match the March change. And besides, why would you wait until 3 months before the pageant to change eligibility requirements?
2. The pageant didn't enforce the rule...
A. ...upon entry of competition. I assume an application process is in place. And some member of pageant committee has to sign off on the girls applying. Find out if any girls got denied entry for any reason and what were they.
B. ...other girls that fit her age description, you can bet, also did not get stopped from entry by the pageant.
C. ...at some point during the event, especially as they are getting the field narrowed down, there would have to be a final check say at the final 10. Why have ineligible candidates within that group? That's also on them for NEVER revisiting the forms for compliance.
D. ...when they allowed her to win. Again, at bare minimum, you would rule out all worst case scenarios before you tapped a winner.
E. ...and if they never gave a darn about qualifications the whole way through, why AFTER it's over? Find out who made the call to update the website and why. What "qualifying girl's" family took the time to find out her birthday, then have enough pull to complain to officials and to seek Justice? And whoever it was, how petty?
And lastly, what kind of example does this set not only for young women but anyone involved with this pageant? The moral here, according to their chosen outcome: Even if a mistake is CLEARLY your fault, take the lowest road possible in order to pretend to do the "right thing" and break this amazing young lady's heart, nullify her obvious victory, which could have career or opportunity ripple effects in a negative way. But you see if the pageant actually cared to do the right thing they would have been 💯 making completely sure everyone knew the recently changed criteria well before the end. Hmmm why? Well less contestants would have been involved. Less entry fees, less audience ticket revenue, less advertising revenue in the programs, less concessions sold, less parking sold...
If they had any class, the only a few options would be:
1. Too bad. She wasn't prevented and she did nothing wrong. Totally different if she was trying to get over on them, which she wasn't. Leave the title solely with her.
2. Share the title. Just for one year, there are two equal winners.
3. For next year only, let EVERY contestant who were the oldest possible without "breaking the new rule" compete again if desired, even if they then would be breaking the rules next year. Then, more, new rules back in place.
I bet if she happened to be trans it would be fine to win, but not if you are a few months past the age. Months of time vs gender switching and somehow we know one is closer to not making sense in the spirit of the competition but we also know it wouldn't matter to the pageant.
Hey kiddo, many are sorry for you. You are doing a good thing by sharing your experience.
Thank you for posting!!
So teen means thirteen to nineteen... so what happened and can she sue people 🤔
Pageants are a joke anyway. It's just a person saying I'm prettier than someone else.
Their problem,not Amanda's,shame ,🆘🔥
Sorry for what happened to you, Amanda, but welcome to the ugly competitions behind the scenes at the events where pretty ladies show off their skills and looks. It seems that they did not like you winning at the higher level and used that technical issue to take the tittle away from you. That is how these events are so often rigged, do not give up in your dreams, just be aware of the many underhanded things that can happen in them in the future.
Politics in pageants
corruption
Because if they let this one slide, it'll happen again and folks will wonder why they let this one slide and not the other. Eventually changing the rules because someone wanted the rules to be bended to fit their needs. There's rules and there was a mistake which they admit, what I'm detecting here with this girl is she is once again feeling like she should get whatever she wants. By the looks of that kitchen she's in, I doubt she's ever heard the word No before in her life. And this is the first time someone has said No to her and she is having a tough time coping with such alien language.
@@OregonCrow , if the issue was her complaining with no reason after the facto and she was aware of the change, I could agree that she seems well the kind of person who was never disappointed in life. But, the wrongdoing comes in the part of the event officials in this case, sorry so even as seemingly self entitled as she looks , she was wronged.
@@Wolfen443 k
What a disgrace to the organization! They signed a contract with her then “changed their minds” glad she’s done, me too!
Eh, there's much more to life than some meaningless teen pageant that most people would've forgotten about in a few years from now anyway...
Sounds like another competitor's mom probably did some slouthing... But rules are rules. But they should have caught the mistake in the beginning and since they didn't they should have honored her title.
Never too early to let women know they're too old for this or that... oh, pageants.
Classy and very composed young woman. This is a shame and seems very petty in a nation where MEN are allowed to compete in as women. I hope and have no doubt she will go on to achieve continued success in life in spite of this unfortunate decision.
correction: she stated she's no longer "super interested"...there's a difference
The pageant committee can't relinquish her crown after the age discovered error!!!
But I hope the pageant officials discovered their own mistake and return her crown, only fair!!!
If this was my daughter I would be on fire ! If they made the mistake & still wanted to put someone else on the throne they better get a very wide chair because it would be the only year of two Miss Utahs. The pageant would loose money but they should never hurt a young teen how terrible,this is ridiculous. If they had two for this year they would have to work on the schedule but you can not take the title away because you made a mistake . Poor child , life isn’t always fair for sure, but the adults who run the show better fix this !
The Real miss Utah will never be seen in a pageant.
They need to adjust the rules to require the age limitation to be 'when the participant entered the competition'.
Doesn’t smell right.
all the girls work hard to get there should of been caught before the pageant.
Ridiculous
Rules are rules. This is petty.
So, who works for the pageant or the city of Utah and their daughter or niece took place?
Smart girl.
I wonder if this is a lesson in acceptance. And sense of entitlement. And rules are rules. Even if there was a mistake. And don’t whine, or blame.
This sounds kind of fishy anyway.
This will be the downfall of the pageant. We all know who the real winner is now 😉
Because if they let this one slide, it'll happen again and folks will wonder why they let this one slide and not the other. Eventually changing the rules because someone wanted the rules to be bended to fit their needs. There's rules and there was a mistake which they admit, what I'm detecting here with this girl is she is once again feeling like she should get whatever she wants. By the looks of that kitchen she's in, I doubt she's ever heard the word No before in her life. And this is the first time someone has said No to her and she is having a tough time coping with such alien language.
Miss America is still a thing?
Sue
We have to look at the BIG PICTURE. Come on Man... What the world needs now is COMMON SENSE. "EVERYBODY". You make exceptions and you set a legal precedent. New should tell both sides of the controversy. (Shame) People make mistakes. You have to be the bigger person and look at the president you are pushing. You were compensated very well. People need to think and look at the bigger picture. Look at our politics today. We need common sense. STOP, STOP, STOP THE NONSENSE. Your feeling was hurt I know, You will have bigger opportunities just because of this. You made the NEWS CYCLE.
First world problems
🎯
Omg….her feelings are hurt…is this really news?
So it's a miss teen Utah competition. 19 is a teen age....if 13 year old can compete, why can't 19 year old's? Regardless, the paperwork was filled out far in advance, so she should be grandfathered in based of the forms she signed when entering. Truthfully, I would expect something like this coming out of an organization that is influenced by people like Trump for many years.
WOW You are funny.
Boycott the pageant.
Utah being Utah!!!
Good riddance.
She's also too old for (R)Matt Gaetz of Florida. 🤨
you're a hateful person aren't ya lol
Way too old for Joe Biden. Sniff, sniff.
Just right for slick willie
Who cares
Only A month? Come on even if it was a year 18 and 19 are basically the same thing
No they aren't 😊
Pageants in 2023? Sigh.
These morons running the pageant screwed it up they should let it go. But the reality of the situation is the lawsuits they would be facing if they didn't do what they did. You have to ask the question did this girl know she was too old to be in the pageant? More then likely she did. I'm sure she knows when her birthday is and she had to have access to the rules in the application process. She's not so innocent. That's why shes not filing a lawsuit.
This sucks but the rules are the rules ? She knew she was too old sry ?
Uh, you're too old. The end.
There's no mystery there. You're either within the age or you're not...or you enter hoping they let you enter due to making a mistake, which means you're a cheater. You cheated and got caught, so deal with it. They sounded like they were nice as hell to the cheater. Give your crown to the runner up and apologize. They owe you nothing. They'll still let you compete in other competitions, so that's considerate of them. Read the directions more thoroughly next time. Rules are rules, you can't expect rules to be bent for you!! I'm tired of these people.
They didn't document the rule change until the Monday after she won, plus why did they accept her application?
Grow up. She is not a cheater. She followed the rules and her paperwork was approved showing the date of 2005; matching the date on the document she received. They later changed the date without notifying her. Your interpretation is exactly why she should sue them.
The rules were changed after the fact. What do you not understand about that?
She cheated was found out this shouldnt even be news and makes only herself look bad.
She was too old. Deal with it.
These women today are too entitled.
F amanda
samesies~~