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  • Use calculus, not calculators! Tangent line approximation (aka local linear approximation) and differential to approximate the irrational number sqrt(100.5)
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Komentáře • 40

  • @neilgerace355
    @neilgerace355 Před rokem +91

    10 ... Didn't use any calculus either :) I think that's the engineer's answer :)

    • @IamBATMAN13
      @IamBATMAN13 Před rokem +20

      As a software engineer, I say the answer is 10.0000000023

    • @SbF6H
      @SbF6H Před rokem

      @@IamBATMAN13 mfw computers are calculators

    • @oenrn
      @oenrn Před rokem +5

      10.0 is a great approximation to 3 significant figures.

    • @sinpi6332
      @sinpi6332 Před rokem +2

      e * e = 2e = 4

    • @HappyGardenOfLife
      @HappyGardenOfLife Před rokem

      @@sinpi6332 e + e = 2e, e * e = e^2,
      either way everyone knows e = 3.

  • @aikendrum2908
    @aikendrum2908 Před rokem +13

    For people who remember their Taylor series, it is very fast to factor out the 10 and use (1+x)^n ~ 1 + nx where n=1/2 and 1+x = 1.005. You can get 10 * 1.0025 = 10.025 without writing anything down.
    This also works for other powers, like cube roots, etc., which are of this form, and if you’ve forgotten it, the linear term in the Taylor series (or Maclaurin series if you prefer) is easy to calculate as well.

  • @johncrwarner
    @johncrwarner Před rokem +15

    (10 + h)^2 = 100.5
    100 + 20h + h^2 = 100.5
    20h + h^2 = 0.5
    h^2 is very small
    20h ~ 0.5
    h ~ 0.025
    => sqrt (100.5) ~ 10.025
    I remember doing this
    as a sort of Newtonian calculus
    early on in learning the calculus.

    • @General12th
      @General12th Před rokem +1

      Matt Parker's method!

    • @johncrwarner
      @johncrwarner Před rokem

      @@General12th
      Like all naming conventions - we tend to associate it with the person we saw it from first or the person our teacher associated it with.
      In my case Newton in yours Matt Parker.

  • @michaeledwardharris
    @michaeledwardharris Před rokem +6

    Very nice. Approximation by linearization makes more intuitive sense to me, but clearly the differential method is way more awesome.

    • @Dissandou
      @Dissandou Před rokem +1

      They’re essentially the same

  • @drawingforyou4626
    @drawingforyou4626 Před rokem +3

    10.0249 to be more exact
    Using long division

    • @Misteribel
      @Misteribel Před rokem +1

      Next digits are 688 (ie 10.0249882). So 10.0250 is closer to the given approximation than 10.0249.
      Still cool you used long division though!

  • @SuperYoonHo
    @SuperYoonHo Před rokem

    Thank you sir! i knew this method from somewhere

  • @finmat95
    @finmat95 Před rokem +1

    4m48s to do something you can do in 4s with calculator.

  • @sriprasadjoshi3036
    @sriprasadjoshi3036 Před rokem +1

    That intro with "Square root of 100 is NICE number " got me,..

  • @carxofa1
    @carxofa1 Před rokem +1

    My guess before watching: approximating via tangent lines.
    Let f(x)=√x. We know f(100)=10 because 10^2 = 100.
    f'(x) = 1/(2√x), f'(100)=1/20=0,05 which is pretty small compared to 100, so:
    f(100,5)≈f(100)+0,5•0,05 = 10 + 0,025 = 10,025.
    It should be close enough considering the f(100)/f'(100) ratio is big

  • @orchestrain88keys
    @orchestrain88keys Před rokem +2

    Use binomial theorem.. It will be much easier and faster.

    • @Misteribel
      @Misteribel Před rokem +1

      If it’s so fast, could you explain how?

  • @PalaceOfTheFree
    @PalaceOfTheFree Před rokem

    Ten and a tiny bit. Done

  • @nemesis2022pf
    @nemesis2022pf Před rokem

    It's aproximately 10.

  • @OnaSoto
    @OnaSoto Před rokem +2

    Do you Americans not get thought the square root extraction algorithm in school? Do they just throw you a calculator for elementary algebra?

    • @robertcotton8481
      @robertcotton8481 Před rokem

      American get taught nothing

    • @Crackkka
      @Crackkka Před rokem +1

      🤓

    • @sunset6958
      @sunset6958 Před rokem

      Hmm

    • @jkid1134
      @jkid1134 Před rokem +2

      Yeah, not standard at all here in the states. Really weird too because it's very similar to long division, which we do learn. It's the first thing I think of when I see this though. "sure, how many digits you want?"
      What happened over there (also where?), did they give you an algorithm and a quiz in a week, or did they explain why what you're doing works?

    • @OnaSoto
      @OnaSoto Před rokem

      @@jkid1134 If you have a perfect square, then you’ll get a result part of the natural number set.
      If you have a square roots that yields you a irrational number, then you can just approximate with 2,3, whatever number of decimals.
      root 100.5 is very easy to do, I could send you a video of the algorithm we use if you would want.

  • @sidshobha8023
    @sidshobha8023 Před rokem +8

    Using calculus gives you better understanding than using calculator...

  • @abi3135
    @abi3135 Před rokem

    I got 8030/801 ~10.02496878 using the continued fraction sqrt(1+x) ~ 1+x/(2+x/2). Checked and it's accurate upto 6 decimals

  • @txkflier
    @txkflier Před rokem

    I guessed 10.02 which is 100.4004. So I was within 0.1% using only my brain cells.

  • @vaib223
    @vaib223 Před rokem

    Use binomial expansion 😨

  • @superman00001
    @superman00001 Před rokem

    The world’s most cumbersome lapel mike.

  • @gaurangisinghal2074
    @gaurangisinghal2074 Před rokem

    1st comment

  • @Misteribel
    @Misteribel Před rokem

    I did, from the thumbnail, √(100∙5)… ah well, learned something regardless 😅