Hot New Accessories for the Commodore Amiga from RetroReady.one and RetroBench.com - 4K UHD
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- Bill and Anthony check out some hot new accessories for Bill's newly recapped Commodore Amiga 1200 from the online store RetroReady.one They demonstrate the KA02 an external PCMCIA L-bracket from Rastport.com, a Compact Flash to IDE adapter, and an 8MB Fast RAM expansion from Archi-TECH. Bill's Amiga 1200 was re-capped by RetroBench.com
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A1208 8MB RAM Expansion for Amiga 1200
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KA02 - External PCMCIA L-Bracket Adapter For Amiga 600 / 1200
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CF2IDE Internal CF Adapter
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Amiga 1200 Premium Organic Polymer Cap Kit from Retro Bench
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Closing Music by AceMan
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The fact that you are still supporting the 500 system is testament to the hardware and dedication that is envy. Fact you can order new cases and keyboards is just amazing.
Yes we are very lucky to have people active in the community who are still supporting these machines
Everytime I see an Amiga 500 or 1200 I think what a beautifull machine.
Agreed!
Before you power on, check the placement of the IDE-CF adaptor, in the video it looks like it's off by one pin (it looks to be too close to the front).
LOL, he did miss on the first take and I didn't even notice. I was editing super fast to try to finish the video before a 2 week work trip. Fortunately this is for demo purposes only. I will do the real install when I move the 1200 into the new case
Excellent video chaps! Much success to Lukasz and the ingenious 𝑨𝑴𝑰𝑮𝑨 hardware developers. Passion always prevails! ❤️
Thank you Artstate! I agree, lots of passion in the community and that leads to success!
Loved seeing Da Boyz back together again! And how the community brought Samia Halaby a new machine is simply stunning generosity. Something to be not only admired but educational, I hope. I've sold off my 1200's (I'm OCS/ECS yo!) but that internal compact flash card adapter is dope!
Aw, thanks AmigaLove! It was great to be back together again with Anthony and I have mad respect for your OCS love! If lovin' the 1000 is wrong, AmigaLove don't wanna be right!
Amiga Love recently watched your video on The Phoenix Board fantastic stuff. There is currently one on ebay in Germany wish I had the cash. 😕 Thanks again
@@TheGuruMeditation So true. I'm addicted to my early-model A3000 these days, but the A1000 get plenty of lovin' too. ;)
@@honkybear666 Hi Stuart! Glad you liked that. I shot a glance at the auction you're talking about and wow. Just wow. That setup is sweet (and $$$).
Jay Miner is looking down from heaven with a smile.
Oh yeah!
it's so nice to see you guy's doing kind of a beginner's guide to the Amiga in 2019!! warms my heart
Thank you so much! We get a lot of requests for this type of stuff, so we will keep it coming!
So much great hardware available for the Amiga, and more all the time, it's amazing! It's lovely to hear what the guys did for Samia too 👍 Keep up the great work guys!
Thanks Pete! We agree, so many great new hardware options and the generosity for Samia is incredible
It's amazing to me that they still make new stuff for the amiga. So cool.
I agree, it is amazing. And the quality of products are top notch. Thanks for checking in guys!
Anytime I can get Bill and Anthony in my living room, I’m a happy guy :o)...
Aw thanks Brad. We'll bring the beers ;-)
These guys are amazing. Their Amiga loyalty is so impressive. Keep up the good work!
Aw, thank you James!
Nice video guys! Awesome as always. Nice to see an 8Meg card with a PCMCIA friendly option :)
Thanks Vickie ! That is a sweet little card
Thanks, Bill and Anthony for another great show. Luv those outtakes!
Ha ha thanks Andy. I toned themdown a bit in case Anthony every wants to work again, lol ;-)
It’s great to see new stuff still coming out for our beloved Amigas. Nice work guys. Thank you.
Agreed. Thanks for the kind words Richard. Glad you enjoyed the video
Big thumbs up for recapping with electrolytic capacitors.
Werd!
Thanks for the twitter link Bill. Great vid showing the L bracket. Definitely placing that order.
This is a great base config for a WHDLoad setup.
Congrats guys.
This video is CNL approved by the Greek Mafia.
(Chuck Norris Level)
Ahhh ha ha ha! CNL appreoval is baller status! Thanks so much Vincent
Chuck Norris sleeps with a pillow under his gun.
Chuck Norris has counted to infinity. Twice.
Chuck Norris shot 11 out of 10 targets. With 9 bullets.
Chuck Norris doesn't turn on the shower. He just stares at it until it starts to cry.
When Chuck Norris does push-ups, he doesn't push himself up, but the Earth DOWN.
Wonderful stuff as always guys.
Thanks Stuart! appreciate that!
Thanks for sharing these new pieces of kit Guru Meditation!
You are welcome. Thanks for watching!
Most interesting as always, thank you very much!
Thanks Sledge!
Greetings from Greece , you guys are doing a great job :) Keep doing this plz and thank you !!!!
Thank you for the kind words. We really appreciate and love to hear this. Greetings from New York!
Nice and informative video. Thanx, and keep on having fun with the Amiga.
Thanks Sin-Lau!
Very good video. I love Amiga !
Thanks Torque!
This was a great video guys, really need to give my Amiga 500 some TLC. Not had it out for a while. Amiga4ever!!
Fretter! Great to hear from you man! Hope all is well. Yeah, time to show that 500 some love!
Love you guys! You´re number one AMIGA on youtubes! (comatron here hehe)
Aw, thanks Comatron! This means the world to us. Love you too man!
sweet upgrades. love the cdtv vibe on that 1200 case!
Yes! I can't wait to put this 1200 into it. It is going to be great!
Watching this Video has made me cant wait for the 1200 to come back from recapping which i sent to Amiga Passion Steve in the UK as i live in the UK.. Awesome Video guys...
Thanks Paul! I don't know Steve Amiga Passion personally, but I have heard lots of great things about him. Congrats on your newly re-capped 1200! May it serve you well for many years to come.
@@TheGuruMeditation Hes being having trouble with the board as the DAC chip died and a CIA chip but hes managed to recap the board.. Its still with him but hes working hard through orders and i watching your videos makes me cant wait to get it back on a desk running.
Great Video, and now I understand those add ons :)
Awesome Kev! They are really cool goodies
2020.05.24. Just boight A1208. Can't wait to put this baby inside my A1200.
These are some great new solutions for the Amiga 1200. I'm more motivated than ever to dust mine off, swap out the hard drive, and get it running again. Luckily, mine still had a sweet 25Mhz 040 expansion, with 8Mb of Fast Ram, in the form of a 72pin simm. But I'll be replacing the case first, with a new case from A1200.net.
Nice Zygma! Now is the perfect time to dust off your 1200 and get back into it. 25MhZ 040 is sweet!
Great dudes! :-) And interesting video! I may also need to buy some stuff there, I guess ...
Thanks Captain! They are sweet little upgrades
Greetings Messrs. Bill and Anthony
That's amazing of dedicated hardware utilities for AMIGA upgrade.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts.
Sincerely yours
MOHAMAD
Thanks Mohamad! Always a pleasure to hear from you. I hope all is well!
Dream Team is back :)
And it felt great!
I really need to get back into Amiga hardware again, I thought I was happy with emulation but real hardware is calling me again but looking at prices its not going to happen anytime soon.
Yeah, there is nothing like the real thing but the prices have gone through the roof. Perhaps you can score a 500. They seem to be the best priced these days, especially sincet hey were the most common
You two really make me want to get an Amiga! Keep up the great vids! If you want to get into 68000 assembly programming, check out Easy68k for Windows. It made learning a lot easier! These retro computers are so fun!
Awesome! get an Amiga! And thanks for the tip!
I remember back in the day on IRC the debates between Amiga, Apple, and IBM PC users. It's fascinating the same Amiga fanbois are still stuck on the 1200 decades later.
We live in best times ever! ;)
Agreed! Yeeeee-HAAAaaaa!
Nice toys for our ladies. :)
Agreed!
I like the black KA02 - External PCMCIA adapter. Is great for my black A1200 case from A1200NET. The ACA1221EC is a nice card with 8MB FAST RAM and 28MHz. The real deal is a ACA1232/ACA1233/ACA1233n. The 68030 is the perfect combo with the A1200. And the ACA cards have enough FAST RAM, 128MB FAST RAM. A IDE CF adapter is a nice solution but the speed is so slow around 2MB/s. With the FastATA A1200 MK-V it got around 6 a 7MB/s with a CF card or a IDE SD adapter. Space is for my important on a CF card and 3.1.4 you can go to 128GB than the WB3.1 you can to a limit 4GB. You can get BetterWB 4.3 to a limit of 8GB. There are so many great things to do with the AMIGA’s. You must always recap the A1200 and i have red caps on my A1200 Rev1D.4. The greatest problem is always the power supply and have a custom ATX 350W PSU. Have it since 2016 on my AMIGA’s and use it every day. You can recap the old Commodore heavy A500 PSU but it can tricky with the things you have now on it. There is always things you must get to think about it. The past 2 years are great for the AMIGA scene and it get greater and greater. Commodore lives forever.
Well said! I have an ACA1223n and absolutely love it. And agreed aboutthe power supply. There are some neat new ones being produced specifically for Amiga as well
Jens must update the ACA1233n.library for the ACA1233n-55. It’s now on my ACA500Plus V1 but on the A1200 the IDE speeder and the MAPROM don’t work. On the ACA500Plus it’s a great card but on the A1200 not so great to have. Maybe Jens update it. If not than is it the same issue as the ACA1233-55 from 2015 and the ACA1232-50.
7:40 Just to add to that point about the fastram speed boost: The 68020 on the a1200 (and the cd32 for that matter) is a very overclockable chip which can easily achieve 28Mhz stable, and the performance is thereby similar to a 68030 running at 24MHz. The fastRAM helps make use of that properly. So then also a FPU directly on the motherboard (the old mod with the caps and pull-up resisitor) brings the a1200 (with that FastRAM) up to the standard the machine really should have been upon release. Same spec should have been for the cd32 too, IMO.
People sometimes say the a1200 (and cd32) should have been 68030, but really, such a 28MHz 020 with fpu and fastram (even just a few meg) would have made a whole new league of games available with clever coding) pre-calculations of the fpu, cache-friendly routines and so on), and the custom chips (copper, blitter) would not have been a bottleneck choking games. Well, that and the ability to actually use a IDE CDROM drive.
What the 68030 would have brought is its serial port on the CPU. But actually a 68040 (even a cheap stunted one with no FPU whatsoever like even slower than a MC68040FE25V which would have been fine, had all the instructions been on it) would have brought realy good parallel IEEE1284. That way, the IDE could have been scrapped to save money (and added via the trapdoor later). It would have meant both a bootable CDROM and HDD could have simply plugged into the parallel port with no need for pcmcia throttling a bus to 16bit. #muhTimeline
Very cool points OPC. Thanks for sharing these thoughts!
All amiga hardware (old and new) is a good thing. This 8mb ram expansion is just more expensive than "somewhere else" just saying...
Agreed. We love all the new hardware. But when you are a small operation and only selling in a limited quantity the price tends to be higher to justify all the hard work that goes into it.
yo men,did antony return back for good?oh yeaaah its cambuthca time again!!!!
Ha ha, oh man I wish he returned for good, but he was just visiting. He will be back though!
Did you hear about the new Amiga 500 replica possibly due out this year? The same people who released the C64 replica. Combine this tech with the new modular laptop coming out and you have a great new computer.
Awesome video guys. Does that 8MB ram also work on the A500 and A1000 by any chance? any possibility on doing some videos on showing the A500, A1000 browsing the internet and some mods for the Amiga CD and CDTV?
Thanks Neo! Unfortunately the RAM is 1200 only. Those are some great suggestions for videos. We will keep them in mind. Thank you!
@@TheGuruMeditation Anytime, glad to help contribute to your great channel. What would be a cheap alternative ram to speed up the A1000 and A500? surely there is some kit out there or someone reverse engineered the originals?
@@neocairo7487 According to my man AmigaLove this is the one you want for the 1000 www.amibay.com/showthread.php?92912-8MB-RAM-to-68000-socket let MKL know it is intended for a (presumably) stock 1000 as he has a couple different options
Hopping you gonna have 1200 likes and + ;)
Ha ha! Aw thank you Fabien!
I have 500, it has been unopened for about a over ten years. I am bit worried. A 1200 would be sweet!!
It is probably OK as long as it isn't a 500+ because the battery in on the motherboard on the 500+ and they usually leak
As Bill said, also if it's not a plus model and has extra ram in the trapdoor, check if it is a Commodore one.
This has also a battery inside the shielding.
The capacitors on the 500 are a different type. They might fail, but they do so much less often than the ones in the 1200, and they generally don't leak as much when they do fail. Odds are your 500 is fine.
@@TheGuruMeditation If i remember correctly, it should not be a500+. Thank you for answering!
you got my hamster wheels a spinnin' with that new CF-IDE adapter. if it were to be made with a primary/secondary switch, would it be possible to have 2 stacked on one another, and working with the A1200?
edit: it has the jumper. will the A1200 recognize a secondary drive, though?
Uh Oh at 4:09 . Common error however. Cheers, M
LOL I know. He did it like 3 times and of course I picked the take when he missed, ugh
What, no accessory love for us Amiga 500 folks?!
Ah, we need to do a video on that. The only one I have though is the ACA500+ - which is awesome
There was a little tidbit tossed out along the way about an FPGA-based Amiga recreation in the works ???
Yep, you can see Architect 1200 talk about it in this video: czcams.com/video/8jQeyvIGgnA/video.html
So does that side adaptor essentially mean you can pull the CF-Card out it and then transfer Amiga files to it from your PC whilst still leaving the secondary CF-Card in the A1200 attached to the IDE Port and then transfer from one CF-Card to the next?
Or is it you only choose one option?
Great question. You are correct. You can leave a CF card in the 1200 formatted for Amiga acting just like a hard drive. Then you format the other CF card FAT and can use it to transfer files between PC/Mac and Amiga. The L-bracket is simply an extension of the PCMCIA port. You can do this with the CF-PCMCIA adapter only as well
@@TheGuruMeditation
Thank you so VERY much for your in-depth and informative response! I've been so extremely busy of late with family that's it's taken up most of my time so it's fantastic to get your help.
Just one more question, do you think it's better to use a CF-Card with the L-Bracket or to just bypass that option and use an Internet based solution to grab files?
If so what hardware/solution would you recommend? btw - its amazing to see how the Amiga scene is growing again, it warms my heart 👍👍😎😎
@@perihelion7445 My pleasure! Personally I find it easiest to use the FAT formatted CF card, but another way that is very popular is to use a program called Amiga Explorer. If your PC and Amiga are on the same network the Amiga can show up on the PC as a drive and you can drag & drop. It is great. Especially great if you have an Amiga without the PCMCIA port. I have used Amiga Explorer on my 4000
@@TheGuruMeditation
You certainly know your stuff, I looked into Amiga Explorer and realised I'd seen it before many years ago. I've ordered a null modem cable too that's up to the task 👍
Final question, I've used a CZcams guide by Fitzsteve to setup my A1200's 4GGB CF-Card with ClassicWB and even though I follow it to a tee and the installation works the Card ends blanking itself after about 2 months of use and I lose the lot.
I've tried this about 3 times and now I don't what to do? Do you know of anyone that can set this up for me or has a service doing it (I'm happy to pay them) or a proper guide that won't cause this issue?
And thanks again, you guys are awesome 😎😎😎
@@perihelion7445 Our pleasure. Thanks for the kind words. I haven't experienced this issue. Perhaps you have a faulty CF card? Might be worth trying a different one. Also might be worth installing Workbench from floppy or GoTek on your real Amiga if you aren't already doing that
I like how the Amiga is still having hardware developed for it but £89.99 is crazy for 8mb of ram it's not 1992.
Understood. But when you are a small operation only selling in a limited quantity the price tends to be higher to justify all the hard work that goes into it.
Why are people still using those old CF cards? SD card adapters make so much more sense.
I think it may be because so many people are already using them in their Amigas. But I agree, SD solutions like this would be wonderful
Is that Maui Wowie or labrador smoke, coming from Guru Anthony? Just don't let the smoke out of Paula / Alice / Lisa / Gayle.
Ahhh ah ah ha! You nailed it Andy!
I need my Amiga 2000 repaired do yo guys have any info to where I can get it done?
Yep, contact Paul www.acill.com
How do we buy a brand new 1200?
You can't. The closest thing is a re-capped one like this from RetroBench
In theory you can get a mostly new 1200, if you get a new case from www.a1200.net/ then one of the new keyboards coming out that you can pre-order from amigaonthelake.com but then you also need to have a re1200 motherboard built which would contain many new parts (the board also being new), but have to source the custom chips which are not made anymore, so you either have to get them from a 1200 or stock someone might have to sell.
Did you really plug the IDE adaptor in miss-aligned?
LOL, no - well on take one he did and the first shot in the sequence is from Take 1. I honestly didn't even notice I was editing so fast trying to finish the video before a 2 week work trip. But if you look in the following shots you can see it is on correctly. Truth is, this was for demo purposes only. It will all be installed properly when I move it into the new case
Do any capacitors exist that DON'T leak over time? Seems to be the number one issue with older computers.
I have seen mid 1980s one that didn't leak. No bulging either.
@@andycraig7734 What brand? I'm guessing it's possible but more expensive, which is why only some applications use them. Too bad price always wins out over reliability and quality. :(
During the time period of the A1200/4000 the quality of the caps coming out of China was very poor. Caps in other times are much better, but all are prone to fail at some point
@@TheGuruMeditation It MUST be possible to make caps out of some hermetically sealed metal, I would think. Of course, this would drastically increase the cost (Well, they're not that expensive to begin with, but comparatively speaking) from maybe 50 cents to 75 cents (a 50% increase but still not really expensive). Unfortunately consumer electronics in general are made to a specific cost and longevity is not necessarily even in the game plan. :(
@@JustWasted3HoursHere To replace caps with a thing that last nearly forever, it would depend upon the task each capacitor existed for. Then one could go from capacitor to capacitor seeing if the job it did could be replaced by another device altogether. So for example, prevention of spikes in a square-wave signal (sort of like a buffer) can sometimes be acheived with a schmitt trigger instead of a capacitor. Capacitors are very varied depending upon their size and job. So for example, ceramics exist.
How about a SATA 1 to IDE connector? :) Granted the Amiga will never do 150MB/s SATA HDDs and SSD's are more reliable than IDE and Flash Cards.
Oooooooh that would be really cool!
well I am still out on whether or not you get any advantage with SATA. If you intend to install a spinning platter hard drive then you might want to go SATA to IDE since those drives are newer and therefore will be more reliable than even new old stock IDE drives. But CF only really have wear on write cycles (so do SSD actually) and the Amiga is not like Windows or Mac where they constantly write to the drive. So on an Amiga I am not sure you'd have an issue with a CF card for a very long time meanwhile for far less cost you could easily make one or two backups doing straight copies to the PCMCIA port and always have a replacement ready to go, something more expensive to do with a SATA SSD drive. Still might be interesting to try one out, since SATA to IDE adapters are pretty cheap too.
@@MayhemMby Just want to point out that SSD writes are MUCH higher in TBW than flash cards. In fact I still have an old OCZ 240GB SSD that still works. Also the memory on SSDs is lot faster than even the fastest CF Card which may or may not be slightly noticeable on an Amiga.
@@dhowser2008 absolutely, but on the other hand, SSDs are more expensive than CF cards (4GB are almost at the point of a dime a dozen) and both are limited by the relatively slow IDE speed on the Amiga so you get a law of diminishing returns on faster drives. To keep in mind is the Amiga simply does not write to drives like Windows/Mac do unless you have installed some virtual memory software. We don't generate a ton of temp files just starting the OS and for a 4GB CF card you don't have to install other software or file systems to manage the larger size. Now, if you're doing a lot of content creation on the Amiga saving lots of image files and need larger storage space, you might start to lean more toward SSDs. Or if you just want something that fits properly in the drive caddy in the 1200/600. Or if you just want to try something different. I'll probably be installing one in my towered 4000 at some point since once its back up and running with its 060 it probably will be the machine I use most. You also have Disk On Module (I think they're called) as another option, I have one of those yet to install. One other thing to think about is, most decent SD cards when they fail will switch to read only instead of corrupting (I have had this happen on my phone) while an SSD that fails most often become unreadable as well as unwritable in my experience. I have to look into if CF cards do the same as SD, and if so that to me is actually better even if they have less of a write cycle since you could still get your data off if they do go bad. If not, SD cards are also usable with SD to IDE adapters. I have a few but I have not had much success trying to get SD cards that the Amiga is happy with. I think it's just cool we have all these options for people to choose depending on their use cases nowadays as opposed to mechanical devices that have many more points of failure.
Is that the woman that does the Amiga art? What was her name again? And what happened to her A1000?
Yes, Samia Halaby. Her A1000 is still in her studio rigjt where it has been since 1985!
Weird. The RetroBench links don't work.
EDIT: Ah, I didn't realize this video was from 2019.
Yeah unfortunately RetroBench closed up. Check out RetroPassion
Does AmigaBill ever get mad? Just curious? :)
I´m not so sure about Anthony...
Ahhh ha ha ha! I have known him since I was 12 and I still have my doubts
i just want and need a flicker fixer that is available to actually buy, someone give me schematics that work at least, ill make it myself.
Unfortunately they aren't available at the moment, but keep an eye out here if they make more icomp.de/shop-icomp/en/shop/product/Flickerfixer_Scandoubler.html
Misleading title
..shoukd say 1200 in it
urm I'm not associated with these guys its just an Amiga thing