NFS Carbon Why Muscle Is The Best Class - Overtaking All Bosses
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- čas přidán 27. 04. 2021
- Old game, old man. Never really tried muscle cars as a dedicated playthrough and I suppose I was missing out. The canyon duels which used to be terrifying as a kid were almost comically easy this time around with muscle cars.
Darius would keep running me off the cliff by ramming me 300 km/h as I was braking for turn 2 but I showed that tosser a little bit of his own tactics and we eventually reached an understanding.
If you liked the video, why not hit that ''Like'' button, or "Dislike" if you hated it, and let me know what you think in the comments below. Constructive criticism is welcome. - Hry
Thanks everyone for the positive feedback! I’m trying to get the Exotics video out which I have been promising but meanwhile, feel free to check out my other video on doing the same thing with Tuners.
After a ”small” wait, I finally got the Exotics video out. Check it out here:
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3:11 pff good one man, that never gets old
Had I have known, I would’ve chosen the starting Muscle car (especially for the rock soundtrack).
every corner turned muscle can still keep that speed really good
Wolf: Pfft, like that will last
Also Wolf: Loses the race
He literally looks like he’s about to cry when you pass him.
@@MarkVinewood Actually true 😂
"i let you win"
I let you win.
- Wolf
Damn, nice sportsmanship from him
It in fact, did last.
3:08 darius rubberbanding in the minimap
Just casually going 500 km/h
Where he went through is the shortcut that you can also take yourself
3:33 the rubber-banding was punching the air at this point 🤣🤣🤣🤣
that collision is disgusting omg 🤢
@@bochok5694 yeah, the rubberbanding in canyon duel is ridiculous, especially when you overtake the car in front of you.
I’ve tried leaving him space into the second corner and he literally crashes into you so hard that I have flown off the track through the barriers.
In NFS Carbon they gave each class a special area they excelled at.
Muscle=Acceleration
Tuner= Handling
Exotic= Top speed
Funnily enough Muscles are also extremly fast on the highway
if you tune any muscle towards horsepower instead of acceleration then you get absurd gear ratios, but even more power funnily enough. I was able to make the dodge viper hit 293mph and couldn't get past 260 in any exotic car, no matter what tune build I tried.
kinda like real life I guess
Juat by Corrvet, u have everything in 1 lmao
Funny enough fastest street car in the world is a muscle car
Darius: No one can touch me
*Proceeds to not only touch him but block his way to re-take the lead*
Well done. I usually just use a Tuner (RX8 & 7) to beat Kenji, Wolf, and Angie, and when I reach Darius' territory I switch to a Tier 3 Muscle with high acceleration like a Corvette.
i remember beating darius as a 7 year old
my 7 year old brain picked a corvette
painted it black
gave it a cool spoiler
ofc gave it a bodykit
and basically spammed nitrous
and i beat the 1st two races
i didn't even use the speedbreaker since i was like "fuck that shit bro!!! i hate slowing down!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111"
and i somehow got used to the grip so darius with ease
like dodge viper (its better than corvette)
I did just that trying to get the 1 million achievement, I didn't get any of the boss cars since it was a game over save, i had to use infinite nos but once i beat Darius's crew, i got the mil so i tarnished him with a viper, didn't need to use the nos cheat any more
@@Blaza303 you can get 1 million with a stock 240sx
Its sad how the other 2 classes drop off. Idk about y'all, but i needed cheats to beat my tuner profile
I like using muscle cars in Carbon because they actually make the game more challenging, the fact that the cars have absurd oversteer just adds to the fun for me.
Fine tune them and u have a monster tbh
It's understeer they have. You can easily fix that with proper oversteer tuning
@@AVENGERSMAN. all you need is proper slip angle driving technique
The oversteer was way too much for me to be able to handle
Yes!
I love how this game and Most wanted 2005 keeps some sort of grounding to basic physics concepts like understeer and oversteer despite being arcade. Also, *Corvette God tier car in Carbon*
Still better physics than Forza 5
Viper and Vette are OP AF and I abused them lol
I remember using the Viper to Defeat Darius the first time. I overtook him easy, and thought how pathetic a boss he is. I later found this was the magic of muscle as I struggled to beat him using a Skyline in the next playthrough
I'd even say anything but muscles are a bit underpowered.
Agreed, for tuners I had to wait for that long left curve at around 60-70% of the race and overtake Darius from the outside with an Evo IX. For exotics I usually had to do both runs. I wasn't struggling but it wasn't easy either. I think I get down to almost 1k points by the end of the second run
I used the Corvette. ez win lmao
Muscles are so overpowered that even with Angie's challenger, it's a total push-over
i used the evo and beat him first time lol
The Dodge Viper and Chevy Corvette C6 Z06 in this game are straight up monsters on power those cars want to go places
Exactly I always got the corvette but they both are beast frfr
go try mercedes and talk later :)
@@user-lf1hf1uo3iMercedes is shit, I tired it
The Corvette AI were so OP in this game
it is almost impossible to catch a Corvette on the track if you do not have a similar car
Muscles are so good in Carbon it's almost criminal... Unless its a Monaro.
Angies first race basically the only difficult part of the game for a muscle car.
Muscle cars are great but are probably the hardest to drive.
My favorite car is Probably the Nissan sx240. It was only on the PC and it was easy to win all the T2 bosses with it even i am quite sure it was T1
@@P_K97 yea t1 car
@@P_K97 which is why i like muscle... they are hard to drive, the opposite of tuners for kids
I used once the jaguar and i felt like god against all t1 races
For me Nissan sx is worst tier 3 car i win engine game with it …
I must admit that I'm more a tuner guy
But the muscles are pretty good, I really like the Viper in this game.
Tuners are really nice as well. I like them too and tbh, they are perhaps more reliable than Muscles. I made on video on Tuners as well ;)
Me too man cuz i like a good way to drive but i still have a crush on the muscles
Handles like a train tho
But its still worth it
Me too, i love the fact that i can just tap brakes once or relese the acelerator and i can make any turn without slowing down
Me too, my most favorite tuner car in this game is Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution because of how easy that car to take sharp corners. (I mean, it's tuner car so it's expected. But this car feels much better than any tuner cars.)
What i loved about Muscle in NFS Carbon is their ability to get the nose pointed through a corner no matter what. They rotate better than a Tuner, and out handle them easy if you can manage the oversteer.
Just like in real life; if you know how to control it
Yes you transfer the weight of car to front slice the apex and you have control again
Lol, it's not about manage the handling, but how much speed muscle cars will lose while controling. You will lose like 120% of all your speed you gain on straight lines 😂😂
Oversteer is slow. The muscles gain all their time on the straights
Imagine trying to run a 4 door charger off the road in an RX-7 💀
Can't get this sedan!
Back when I was a kid, I thought exotics were the ones to get because of the stats and because I'm a fan. In the end I struggled with the tier 3 bosses while using the SLR (my favorite) and ended up finishing the game in a Viper with little effort.
Literally the same here
The viper and corvette are just simply overpowered
As a kid after playing most wanted with ming's Gallardo I thought it was the best and bought it in carbon. Struggled against Darius with it. Later found out the tuners and muscles were cheaper and better
Don't use Exotics while racing Darius. That will give you a hard time of beating him and his god damn Audi. Same goes to the M3 GTR.
Muscles and Tuners are the only option here when racing against him.
i just completed the game with my SLR.... i won in canyon by just 700 points 😅. Tune any car's suspension to understeer(which actually makes it oversteer as its glitched) and u can handle corners for muscles and exotics very easily
Quick tip: If you want a quick and clean overtake on Darius on the first turn, you can just restart the race. For some reasons both cars will spawn a lot further from the first turn when you restart the race. Viper has the best acceleration in the game and it's the easiest car to do this with but even the Corvette has enough acceleration to do it cleanly.
Played the game for so many years…at the end managed to beat all the bosses including Darious with Camaro SS 🙂
My Brodha
Slick driving, my man. Especially that Tier 1 Camaro, so smooth and precise.
I was using controller so that helps with modulating inputs. But thanks!
@@MarkVinewood when i moved to play with controller it felt so weird in the first time idk how to maximize the use of analog triggers on the controller
When I was a kid I've always used Camaro for 90% of races until I had to switch to Vette/Viper. They were OP.
I miss this game. Spent 4 hours in a police chase with Paul's 2F2F skyline. Had it set to drift build and just ripped around everything. 4 hours of dodging spike strips..
Wow, u are legend bro 🤘
Believe it or not this is why I love the Corvette and the Viper in real life. They were my childhood heros because they were made like absolute rockets in a bunch of nfs games.
Tonight I restarted a new career. Finished Tuner now trying Muscle. On the Wii with motion controls
Cool! I am still thinking about a full exotic career as I haven't tried that yet. But I'll have to find the time first 😅
I usually use the Evo in order to defeat Darius. I'm not of a muscle car user in Carbon, but the fact that you overtook Darius at the first turn on his canyon race was so fucking unreal.
1:38 is the best feeling i think, I havent played this game since I was about 8 maybe, I lost the disc but coming out of a high stress moment and winning and then the epic music just starting and it putting you in free roam, great feeling.
Ah the Viper's nuclear acceleration, such bliss.
imagine someone beating darius with a monaro
That would be insane
Bet.
I did that … without touching him I overtake on that downhill aftet chicane
And I did that in Camaro ss max upgrade but I didn’t pass him
I did it with Subaru 350 z shelby but I didn’t ram him on first corner
The downhill after chicane is his weak point you just got to be precise like dude with controller …I did that on 20 yo laptop with win7 lmaooo
Game on.
@@ralphlorenzperolino3054 If we are strictly talking about beating Darius (leaving out the other 4 crew members), then I have done it with literally every car in the game. From Mazdaspeed 3 to Monaro to CLK500. Yeah took like 2 months to try and try again on each car. Sometimes I just fell short by very little and sometimes won by very slim margins. The toughest was CLK500 though. No handling as well as no accleration whatsoever. So top speed doesn't even matter.
Muscles are objectively better due to how limited flat-out straights are in Carbon races, whether its city races or canyon runs. Constant winding roads make better acceleration better.
There are very few instances you'll ever be able to get an Exotic to top speed, and speedbreaker makes the Tuners' handling advantage pretty redundant with the proper tuning.
dude, I get your point, but even then, the muscles take the top speed as well. if you tune the viper or corvette towards top speed and horsepower as a pose to acceleration, then weirdly, those cars get even better acceleration and max out at 293mph for the viper and 288mph for the corvette. Haven't ever been able to get an exotic car past 260.
@@Kirmani-man that’s becose of simple mechanics of car
Short shift point and acceleration makes you shift more and not using all the power u have only shifting from 5 to 2 and from 2 to 4
Second
Even tuner is better with engine tuned on horsepower and acceleration transmission
Big block big responsibility you’ll get it
And for exotics like carrera who’s top speed is 500 km /h you have to upgrade car trq just a little due to long gears and lower acc
Means that exotic are lacking trq and big block muscle are lack of top speed like .. u just gotta think what u need to have better acceleration idk if I am good at English I hope u understand me understanding mechanics of game lmaoo
All exotics except the Carrera and Cayman feel underwhelming.
@@satyakisil4289 lol Cayman is fastest tier 2
I think do becose i didnt test
The fully upgraded viper in this game is insane. Like it accelerates so fast the first two gears are non existent
Nice vid man. I always thought that tiers were more a matter of skills rather than a preference for a style. In my younger years I got to a point in which I was capable of getting the best of every car in the game, and let me say that the best race times a tuner or an exotic could get were many seconds behind a lower tier muscle
what I'm trying to say is that any Tier 1 muscle could outperform any tier 2 tuner or exotic; any Tier 2 muscle would do the same to a tier 3 tuner of exotic; and tier 3 muscles were just imposible to beat in race time
I think that it was a matter of skills because when you drove a tuner you did not event need to brake nor take the best line in corners.
Exotics demanded you to know breaking points and if you followed the best line you wouldn't crash against walls
but muscles demanded you to know you breaking points, to find the best line and even to control the slides of the tail that were proportional to the power of the car. If you failed to do all of these things right the car just wouldn't respond
cheers from Argentina!
There’s definitely strong rubberbanding in this game so yeah, it is possible to be competitive in higher tier races with lower tier cars 👍
I use tuners, I like the difficulty that they add, they lack the acceleration, but I love using tuners. I start with the rx-8, then get kenji's rx-7, then when I get to Silverton I buy the 350Z, and then later on before Darius I get the Evo 9. One of the best cars in the game.
Best class indeed. Getting angie's charger makes tier 2 races a walk in the park
I absolutely hate Angie’s Charger myself 😅 Made a video about overtaking the bosses in their own cars and Angie was a pain in the @ss
Yeah , the handling is shit but if you get a good hang of it , you are good to go.
@@prajwaldsouza4559 tuners handling for me it's painful
@@M4V3R1CK_13 indeed.
@@M4V3R1CK_13 Tuners are not bad lmao. The Evo and Skyline are the best Tuner cars while racing against Darius.
I seriously underestimated muscle cars in this game as a kid.
this brought me back the time i beat darius at the first corner with a corvette. although not on the first attempt, it was satisfying to get it right.
Well made video, really enjoyed it. Thanks 👍
Wolf overtaken: "Yeah, like that'll last."
*It did, indeed, last.*
I usually just tuner main this game every time cuz the map is so tight n twisty that it feels like your doing something wrong if you don't pick tuners, exotics turn like a boat that's been shipwrecked and muscles turn like some other boat related analogy idk that's just me but kudos to those that manage to beat this game with something other than a skyline. (which is what I always use for the last race)
The exotics have such bad handling I was shocked when I first bought the murcielago. The cars feel like they weigh 5 tons despite the handling bar being high
@@defnotatroll Murceilago has bad handling for an exotic. The Carrera GT and Ford GT are better.
That yellow Viper is looking fresh af
Corvette and Dodgr Viper have the best acceleration in the game, thats why i have them in Darius territory unlike in the first three with tuners/exotic
Guess you haven't tried Mitsubishi Lancer or Nissan Skyline against Darius. They literally outspeed heavily all the bosses of the final race 😂😂
Yep. I played with Camaro until I reach Darius and then I would always switch to Vette/Viper
ending this video with muscle theme song was lit
Because of your video, i try to beat this game with only Muscle cars but failed in the process
Camaro SS can put a fight against all of the 3 bosses. But when you in Silverstone (Darius' territory), its kinda hard to use Camaro SS. I want to buy new car but that 1M Cash Reward Card really make me think twice. I wanna to use Angie's Charger but can't handle it's slippery playstyle. Sure you absolutely win against Darius with Viper/Z06 but man reach Darius when keep your cash to 1M is hard
Maybe get all the pink slip of RX7 and DB9 then sell them out is the option. After you reach 1M Cash and get those Reward Card, you absolutely on good position
I love how on the Kenji and Wolf first runs you did not use the best muscle car in tier 2. That is a creative way to prove it lol
Hehe, I just picked what I liked 😅 Apart from Camaro which was just a free car with no mods
I always used an Evo for Darius because there was a spot a fast long left handers that if taken correctly, you could pass him on the outside because the tires could hold the corner
Reasons i used mucle... Love the 67 camaro and it can drift nicely!
Very good passes in the right turns my friend, one of the many times I completed the game I did it in a rx8, was able to beat all the bosses but i admit muscle cars are beast to overtake. As in Nfs Most Wanted my favorite car was the corvette. Cheers from Chile 🇨🇱
The viper smoke between gearshifts is the coolest thing ever
the real reason is because the muscle cars in carbon have the best songs bound to them
LOOOOOL that ending battle with Darius was just pure violation 😂
Why Viper is the best car in the game
I remember beating Darius in a V6 Clio, absurd decision I made when I was a kid.
man this channel is underrated
The viper is so OP in this game, i maxed my top end out at 247 with it.
the viper goes 310 mph
@@ManLikeEddy Is that with the maxed out engine?
@@Jimblethorp do you have discord? i'll stream the game to you
@@ManLikeEddy really shocked how few people know that the viper and corvette are by far the fastest cars in this game and can max out above 290mph
@@Kirmani-man i mean thats unrealistic but these engines can definitely do those speeds
We're only limited by tires you know
I like how Wolf constantly looks like he’s pouting.
The viper truly is a monster of a car, i discovered this on my second playthrough as i struggled so much with tuners torwards the end, never choosing anything but muscle for final boss runs.
The dodge charger off the second boss its really powerful and for sure if you really go for acceleration.That its really a beast tuned right!Its insane!
Clarkson:
-Tuned: Well the handling is very good
-Exotics: This is incredible, the balance is glorious gloooriuuuss
-Muscle: POWAAAAAAA
MO POWA BABEH!
This comment of yours about Jeremy Clarkson reminds me of Gordon Ramsay while criticizing the food on MasterChef lmfao
Tip: In one of challenge series you can unlock a car that is more powerfull than of 3 cars which gaves you and is 20,000$. So instead of beginning the career, first pass those challenge series mission, then start the career and sell your car then buy that car. Easily you can pass 3 first Bosses without spending any money on tuning and save your money for the last boss
I had a special tuned Viper just for this. Geared the transmission for maximum acceleration and it would ROCKET past anybody on a canyon race
I remember overtaking darius the first time I tried on the 1st or second corner with the corvette, good memories
The Corvette was and is forever my favorite in NFS Carbon
I remember using the Muscle car I won from the muscle boss canyon race, then upgrade acceleration to easily beat Darius in the first few seconds of canyon race, too
Man the camaro took me to the top!
I always used, and had an obsession with Carbon’s mighty Viper.
and I always tried all classes and I liked the classes, but I liked the class of foreign cars more when you choose Alfa Romeo .
You can play the whole game on a 1967 camaro ss and on a Nissan 250sx. so yes, masalcars are also good in their own way. All classes are good in their own way.
I agree big time. That acceleration is killer
The Z06 is even so badass...the front lifts up while accelerating . That R8 didn't stand a chance.
That overtake on Darius would've taken forever
I was won this game for 10 years ago. When I was teenaged. Now I play again but I never won. I used exotic car. Now I can memories on that time I play muscle car.
Yes..! I love using the Charger R/T and pushing win in the canyon by only overpass the enemy..
Still the best NFS to date.
That Viper is insane
The viper and corvette,the best of them all
I like how the game explains the car classes at the beginning of the game:
Muscle cars are very great for straight-line acceleration to get ahead of the competition.
Tuner cars are very grippy and can be used to an advantage when you need to make quick turns while your opponents end up in the wall
Exotic cars I'm not sure how they're explained, but I think it had to do something about high-end performance and utilizing racing techniques to win against the competition?
Exotics are basically worthless
For me:
-Muscle cars: fast at straight line but difficult to control
-Tuner cars: easy to drive but slow at straight line.
-Exotic: high flexibilty but need demand of high driving skill (high knowledge of braking point and racing line) due to prone to understeer.
Holy nostalgia man. I swear the viper was like using a cheat code in this game.
Corvette Z06 on Nfs Carbon is pretty insane
I used to spec my Corvette out for max torque and it just made it so busted for every situation
Muscle car in this game is like dragster that can turn just a bit, in my muscle only run, i choose the Mustang GT as my Tier 2 (i got nothing else since im playing non collector edition) and its pretty nasty experience, but once i get to tier 3 its fun a games, and ofc i have to overtake Darius on the first turn since im using a Vette
I have a collectors edition carbon.
The 240sx is the best tier 1 tuner, it is comparable to rx7 tier 2 in terms of specs.
Damn Did you just "You shall no pass!!!" Darius at 3:31? 😂
This game looks insane
The Corvette Z06 is by far thest muscle car in the game. Used to use it to pass Darius Audi on the canyon races, tuned for max acceleration.
Please bring more content with the Dodge Viper, because it is my favorite car 😍💛
hey! I've known this trick for a long time 🔥👍❤️
I’ve beaten the game 3 times with 1 class each time and tuners were the most fun cause it give a bit of a challenge due to lack of speed but the muscle class I had to fine tune them to turn but was top tier fun🤟🏾
67 Shelby GT500 goes hard in this game! Especially in pursuits.
You can use all the classes to get to Darius but once you get there you gotta use muscle if you don’t want to get a headache
For me loving this game and muscle cars I would always drive the muscle cars, I even loved it when I drove the 67 Shelby gt500 that was kick ass 👍
Yes! Little Japan. Look at those huge American MUSCLES!
Gotta keep in mind that if your car is stock. Your opponent car will be stock. If your car is maxed, then their car will be maxed as well. Your opponent basically follows what upgrades you have installed.
I remember finished last race with Corvette Z06
I loved Kenji's RX7
Did u make any upgrades and if u did what kind cuz im tierd of losing i spent 3 hours on a canyon boss and still not beat it
Darius like a goon from Lazy town.
Still a great looking game today running on the 360, goes to show optimization at its finest looked so much worse on other systems and pc, of course without mods haha, this and most wanted need a remaster! 2 damn good nfs games!
Famous last words from wolf @0:57
I used camaro as first car and tried to keep the camaro as long as possible until i got the chance to buy a corvette. Damn that thing is fast in everything.
I don't know how people define Viper as a muscle car. It is closer tp a sportscar. Muscle cars are suppose to be big, loud and bright colored ships on the road, with huge tires. The Viper isn't really huge, or even loud compared to actual muscle cars
I agree, it should be Exotic like the Ford GT and the Corvette z06, I guess they put it in that category, to fill the Muscle car gap.
Bro Kenji never stood a chance.
Corvette is also good, I passed everyone on my playthrough and that was with clean overtakes too
What’s your tuning on the viper out of curiosity… 👀
Corvette and Viper for the kill!