JS Industries Blak box 3 + Julian Wilson & Filipe Toledo FCS AirCore Review - The Surfboard Guide
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- Welcome to the JS Blak box 3 Review!
The Blak box 3 that I’ve been riding is the stock 5’9 x 19 5/8 x 2 7/16 - 29.9L.
I’ve been surfing the Blak box 3 for a while now across a variety of conditions, and it’s been an epic board to handle just about anything local beach breaks will throw at it. From 1ft, to overhead the board perform well and feels like it’s just as happy groveling in junk as it is in 4ft tubes.
I was speaking to someone about the Blak box 3 being fast, and it wasn’t the speed of the board that impressed me, but it was the boards flow. The Blak box 3 has amazing flow, linking sections together and getting across flat sections with ease, making surfing easy and enjoyable.
The Blak box 3 has a 5 fin option, but I preferred the board as a quad, it felt much too tight as a quad. The Blak box 3 I had was FCS and I was really feeling the Julian Wilson AirCore in large by FCS in this board.
From www.jsindustries.com;
Much loved by surfers around the world for the last eight years, we’ve set out to build a new board that does justice to the famous Blak Box DNA, which has always brought fun yet still exciting surfing to good, average and even terrible waves.
The success of our Monsta Box and Air 17X at the refined end of the X Series prompted JS to re-design our Blak Box to be even more suited to weak waves and surfers who don’t get their ideal choice of conditions day in, day out. It’s user-friendly, and it’s a must have to make the most of whatever window you have to get in the water each week.
BLAK BOX 3 performs best in waves that are fat and crumbly but goes equally well when its clean and hollow. Best wave height is between 0 and 4 feet. BLAK BOX 3 is fast, manoeuvrable and super rippable! It's perfect in average conditions when most high performance boards are struggling.
An overall low to flat rocker is the perfect all-round rocker creating speed and glide in small to average conditions.
Blak Box 3 has medium to low rails, reducing catch and increasing speed in and out of choppy or soft sections.
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Watch your reviews all the time. Thanks.
Thanks ✌️
Nice review Craigo keep them coming. BTW just listened to your podcast really enjoyed the interview with Brit Merrick, and the other with Noel Salas. Real tidy work 👍🏽mate!
Thanks mate - stoked you enjoy them! ✌️
I have a 6.0 swallow (I'm fit 5'11", 80kg). after a week of breaking it in, this board goes well in almost anything and picks up almost anything. Got caught out in a 6ft+ day without my go-to for more powerful stuff and it handled it well - my theory is the swallow gave it a bit more rail than a rounded square so no dodgy moments bottom turning into a bit of overhead suck. its the most sensible board I've had for many years in very good surf 2-5ft surf with the ability to pick up waves in slop and make a grovel session worth it. I'd probably prefer the swallow over the squash or at least be more confident in it for more bowly sucky stuff but thats just personal pref...
I agree with you on the swallow tail for extra hold, that the principle of the design! Thanks for sharing your experience!
@@TheSurfboardGuide I know...ha ha I said that to myself after i posted it...for a brief minute I must have thought it was my idea...maybe the coffee
Rogue Herring haha! It may have partly been your idea! 😂
When I spoke to JS they sent me the rounded square, but the more I see them around, I really wanna ride the swallow tail! ✌️
Hey mate. I'm down in South Oz. I watch your reviews all the time. Good stuff . Keep em coming :-)
Thanks for the feedback - stoked you enjoy the board reviews!
Great review Craig, I'm sold! 🤙🏾
Chito Centino haha! I don’t sell surfboards, but if our review helped you find the right board then I’m stoked! 🤙
Greatly appreciate... so done both .
Johnny Pep thanks!
Hey Craig
Just looking for your thoughts, tossing up between the Black Box3 HYFY or the Hayden Shapes Holy Grail as a daily driver that can cover 90% of the waves on the Sunny Coast (1 - 4ft). If you could have only one which one and why?
Great question. I also would like to know please.
Better late than never...
Blackbox 3 - while i liked the Holy Grail, the BB3 was super versatile and while it went well in 1-2ft junk, it also was good in 4-5ft good clean surf!
great review mate, cheers.
Chris Maclachlan thanks!
That board looks mental
Justin Bordwell hey! It’s been fun to surf! 🤙
Craig, would you say the wide point is forward on this board? JS says they moved it forward but it doesn't look like say a Pyzel Phantom or a fishy board where it is obviously forward. I don't do well with those type boards but I like the look of this one. Thank you.
rippert hey! Yes it is forward, but it doesn’t hold the width and the nose isn’t overly full/wide as it comes in enough to keep you out of trouble! I haven’t surfed the phantom so I couldn’t comment, but in the JS range you are probably talking about a nose like what is on the Nitro model which becomes much fuller and holds that width through the nose.
Thanks Craig. No local shops have one so I was curious. Good comparison with the Nitro and I can assume not nearly as wide as the Flying Pony. I'm going to order one, the volume as you said works perfectly for me in a shorter package 5'8" for my weight and height. Keep it up brother.
Hi Craig, I’m loving your reviews! Subscribed. Keep up the top work. Hopefully I can tap up your expertise? I have a chumlee and am thinking about adding or replacing with a CI RW or a JS BB3 in terms of low end how do these 3 boards compare? Looking to be mostly riding in the 1-3ft range (up to head) but have a little gap at the moment between the CL and my HP shortboard where I could be having more fun! Happy to keep the CL for real junk, which board out of the other two would match up best. Thanks in advance.
Jerseywake between the RW and the BB3 I’d say the BB3. I liked the RW, but I liked it in decent surf, either 3ft+, or with a bit of push. The BB3 seems to work everywhere, and if you really want it to grovel, I’d say the Hyfi/epoxy would be mental!
Keep that Chumlee for the small surf and junk, that things mental for keeping people in the water!
Thanks for taking the time to reply@@TheSurfboardGuide this share of your knowledge helps me loads and I'm sure others too.
Jerseywake 🤙
Hey man! Love your rewiews!
I’m 6’3 and about 88-90 kgs like yourself and I’ve recently bumped my volume up from 30 to 32 and couldn’t be happier. After seeing some footage of myself after I increased my volume a bit I realised my turns, especially when more carving orientated once just look way better. What I’ve noticed in your reviews, your boards looks really good in the snappier turns but I feel like when you’re carving you lose some speed through the last 1/3 of the turn - which happened to me as well, but going up to 32 litres on my more small wave performance oriented boards (like my new black box 3) seemed to fix. Wondering if you have tried some boards in that volume range - and if not or anyhow it could be really interesting to see you surf a board like the black box in 2 different dimensions? So like this one in 29 and then one with 2-3 litres more
Cheers mate!
Thanks for your feedback. Yeah, bigger boards (30L+) feel too big and bulky, sure they peddle great, but that's where the benefits stop for me. 18 Months ago I was riding 28 -28.5L, and I've moved to 29.5 - 30L, and that feels good! But it's all depending on the board really and how the volume is placed etc...
@@TheSurfboardGuide you need 33-34liter.im 90kg. And i riiped with 34 litter.cheers
Love your video..it will nice to see "el patron" lost surfboards.cheers
@@soulsurfer3102 I saw one the other day and it looked like a more user friendly SaboTaj - I'm interested in it!
@@TheSurfboardGuide if you can do avideo with el patron it will be nice.he will give you good drive on crapy waves and goid turns and long cutback.good luck
Hey Craig.
Thanks for the review mate great as always and been waiting on it😀
Another comparison question sorry but which board would you say is your favourite board? why? and compare each of these model against each other:
Air17x
BB3
Monsta Box
Beach buggy 2
Thinking typical Aussie east coast beach break conditions....
Trevor Hocking hey! I don’t want to say ones my favourite, but I do remember getting rid of my Monsta Box because it was so versatile it made having a quiver redundant!
All those boards would be great for average beach break conditions on the east coast, but maybe add the Chilli Surfboards Churro with the Round Tail to that list, similar to the Monsta Box, there isn’t much that board can’t do!
The Surfboard Guide why would you get rid of your monsta box if it was so versatile?
Valdo van Zyl hey! I think I answered that above...
@@TheSurfboardGuide I must be too blonde then cos I still don't get it. Are you saying you don't like having a one board quiver?
Monsta box or bb3?
Who you like more?
2what with occy board.
R.bull.for bigeer waves.it will be nice
Both are good boards - The Monsta Box is so versatile that it's hard to go by.
to be honest it looks like you need more volume in your boards seems like they bog down some times... you should try it and see how you go.
I do ride low volume to weight, but kinda like it that way...
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That music scared the shit out of me
Haha!
BB3 vs Holy Grail ? Both board are available in 5'9 at at my local shop.
Either - both great boards and you’d be having fun on them both!
Hey there, great review! Just a question. I'm torn between the CI rocket wide and the blak box 3 (swallow or squash) for summery beach breaks ranging from waist high to a foot overhead. Which one would be more convenient for these conditions and a comfortable intermediate surfer looking to get more high performancy? Thanks in advance
Yuvan-Théo Dumas personally I think I’d prefer the BB3, but really you couldn’t go wrong with either one! 🤙
@@TheSurfboardGuide Thanks, keep it up with the great reviews!
hey craig, the bb3 looks pretty similar to the chilli churro you reviewed a little while back. Any feedback on which you liked more or differences you noticed in performance or wave range? THANKS!!! can't wait for the black baron review. Keep up the good work!
Hey! Yeah they are both really similar boards and i don't think you could go wrong with either. My Churro was a round tail, so possibly had a little more versatility, but I also surfed it for longer and in a greater variety of waves, so was quite fond of it... Hope that helps!
@@TheSurfboardGuide Awesome! so no real differences between them that you can really remember? Such as one being more front or back footed, or easier to catch waves with? On paper they do seem similar!
I typically ride a 24.5 liter board, occasionally 25 liters so think 24.5 for the MonstaBox. Looking at getting this in hyfi and am torn between the 5'6 and 5'7. The 5'6 is 24.6 liters and the 5'7 is 26.1 liters so quite a big jump. Conventional wisdom seems to be to size up for small wave boards but 26 liters seems a bit big. Thoughts?
Sorry mate / just saw this!
If you haven’t already, can you get to a shop to feel one in the flesh? I always feel like that the best way to size boards!
Great review mate! Is there any reason why you don't test the JS boards with the Hyfi construction that much? Do you think the durability of the PU construction is better?
Johnny People hey! I think the PU gives you a better feel for the board model, and then adding the epoxy or Hyfi tech should just give it an extra 10% for when waves are small and weak! I’ll try get some in the future, but they can be hard to get hold sometimes, and it wasn’t available when I got this last year.
@@TheSurfboardGuidemakes sense! Thank you for the reply!
@@JoaoPCavalcanti All good!
Hello
Plz, how would u compare this one to the Chilli Hot knife. Thank you
Hi Craig thanks for the great review.The JS Blak Box 3 and the Bullseye seem very similar from looking at the JS website.Im a big guy 6'4 and 97kgs,intermediate surfer,would you recommend the BB3 or the Bullseye?From both reviews it seems as if you preferred the Bullseye?
Hey! Both great boards, but i think i preferred the BB3 over the Bullseye... But i'm clutching at straws here as they were both great boards!
Hey Ryan - which one did you get? I'm about the same hight and weight as you are and thinking of getting the bb3. I use to ride a 6"4 Firewire Spitfire and lately more the 5"10 BackedPatato of Firewire to. I'm looking to get a board that covers me 90% of my needs. I'm intermediate surfer and semi-fit. What length did you get? Cheers
@@svenziorjen9960 i got the bb3 in 6'3 length,its 40L.Its a good board
Ryan The Rock thx heaps
Hey Craig nice review. How would u go comparing the bb3 and the beach buggy 2? It’s for around Sydney. What would I consider the differences in feel surfing?
Ben Costantini hey! Both great boards, and would be good if you want something that’s kind of performance for average Sydney waves. The Beach Buggy 2 is gonna be a bit longer and give you more rail (I rode a 5’11), and is a bit more pulled up through the nose, holding most of its volume/width in the tail under your back foot which I really enjoyed! The BB3 is a shorter and rounder offering, fuller nose and front end, and at 5’9 a much shorter tail line. Both boards have similar rockers which are fairly flat and would be both great for Sydney waves!
Hey Craig love your vids how does this compare to the Monsta 8 and monsta box
Daequan Loco thanks! The BB3 is quite comparable to the Monsta Box, just in a shorter/wider package, but surfs a very similar wave range. The Monsta 8 is longer and gonna be narrower through the nose and with a more aggressive rocker for larger or better waves!
Thank you so much love your vids Craig 🤙
hi craig, how tall and heavy are you? looking at getting one of these, but just trying to get a gauge on what size people are finding comfortable for their height/weight... cheers!
Hey! I'm 5'10 x 90kgs - but i ride quite low volume to weight, so not sure i'm the greatest gauge for this. I'd recommend getting it around your shortboard volume, maybe add a tiny bit...
Hi Craig, I ride a lot of fat, junky waves (Middleton, South Australia); would you recommend the JS Blak Box 3 or the Rocket Wide? It'd be good if the board performed well when the waves get more hollow too (Seaford or Parsons, South Australia). Cheers, regards from Adelaide, SA. PS: great show! :)
Big choice! Both boards would be great, the BB3 more so when the waves are fat and junky, and the Rocket Wide when it gets a little more hollow and bigger... Personally i'd probably pick the BB3 over the RW, but that's me... But if you are gonna be surfing better waves more of the time, than the RW might be the go!
@@TheSurfboardGuide Thank you very much man! I will go with the BB3 as fat, junky waves are more common than the hollow waves over here. Great work with the videos and reviews man, keep it up! Cheers
@@GuiKeller Thanks mate! Stoked you enjoy!
Hey Craig, how would you say it was different from the BBI and BBII. Also did you try the swallow tail or just the squash?
Roger Pye hey! I never rode the BB2, but the BB3 seems much more refined than the original BB, with the width/rocker through nose better for decent and hollow surf.
Never tried the swallow, but assume it might have a little more bite through turns etc.
thanks Craig
Hi craig ive just ordered a custom ghost from pyzel for when its pumping. Unfortunately i just snapped my epoxy puddle jumper, and my v2 epoxy. I will be ordering a new puddle jumper, or pjhp in pu at summer, but im looking for a board to replace the v2, and have been considering a bb3, or psycho killer in pu. Just wondering which one of these boards would perform better all round, and handle 4ft + barrels on say bendalong beach? (If I didn't have the ghost). I struggled to drive off the bottom on the v2 in said conditions the other day n just curious on your opinion. Regards
Hey! For what you described, I'd go Blak box over the Psycho Killer for sure! The Blak box is so versatile, it might be the only board you end up surfing!
@@TheSurfboardGuide Thanks for the reply...stoked!
Does anyone know if the BB3 or Lost Psycho Killer is more user friendly?
(I’m lower side of intermediate surfer)
BAP I’d say this is significantly more user friendly. I found the Psycho Killer hard work, but I think it was mainly due to the channels coming out the back of it... 🤔
The Surfboard Guide thanks for the reply!
There is so much choice out there it’s hard to pick something.
BB3 outline looks like it can handle a good wave range & type. (At a guess)
Going to look at the pyzel phantom too as I’ve heard it’s also forgiving/user friendly.
@@BAP785 good luck on your board journey!
@@TheSurfboardGuide I agree about the Psycho Killer. I have it in EPS with the channels and love the board, but considering selling for the BB3. I have the Monsta Box Hyfi and that board is legit as fuck. I figure the BB3 is weirdly similar but that recipe is working...
@@cwr8618 did u end up going with the bb3 ?
What kine fins would you ride in it? More raked or more straight up?
Michael Harvey the fins I preferred in this board were more raked, but I generally like a more raked fin. 🤙
Hi Craig, how does the BB3 compare to the CI Sampler? Thanks
BB3 is more surfable, a little more rocker, and probably surf a wider range of conditions.
The Sampler is amazing, but very flat, and probably more aimed at smaller waves.
@@TheSurfboardGuide Good on you Craig, thanks for the info.
Between the wave slave and the BB3 which one is better for 2 to 4 foot around the northern beach you reckon ?
I'd choose the BB3 over the WS - really versatile and a very well designed board!
@@TheSurfboardGuide thanks man ! And lastely do u reckon there is really a noticeable difference with the monstabox ? As in more speed or easier to surf or the monstabox is still best in 2 to 4 foot overall
@@matr4724 Do you mean Monstabox or BB3?
@@TheSurfboardGuide i meant between bb3 and monstabox?
Hey
Great video.
Can u do the bb2?
Pleassse.
Thanks Mate!
Probably won't do BB2 as it's an old model, and I don't think it's actually available anymore...
If you like JS, we are doing the Psycho Nitro and Raging Bull shortly...
@@TheSurfboardGuide tnx.
Blak box or Mini Ghost? That's my current $1000 question.
No idea - never ridden a Mini Ghost! Did love the BB3 though!
Surfing well mate, this board looks fun!
I think I'm about to get either this in a swallow or a wave slave.. would there be much difference in drive/bottom turns/carves between them?
Cheers
t money I have both and love both but there is some overlap. If I had to pick one I’d go with bb3 as it’s a bit more versatile and closer to a regular hpsb. Know Craig says in the video the bb3 tail is big but in comparison Wave slaves tail is f***n massive and much thicker in the same dims/volume. The wave slave has a low but somehow much longer and different nose rocker too. Also forgot to say my bb3 is squash tail so not sure how the swallow compares.
t money I don’t think there would be huge difference between the squash and swallow in the BB3, maybe a little more bite in the tail edge through turns etc.
The Wave Slave has a much bigger back end, and an overall fuller outline, but I’d say in the 1-3ft wave range they surf similarly, but the BB3 would handle much more in the upper scale (3ft+).
@@karljakobsson2687 Good intel, thanks for that!
@@TheSurfboardGuide Thanks, much appreciated! It's too hard to pick boards, now I'm thinking about a monstabox.. could you tell me how much harder they are to paddle/ how they'd manage 2ft slop... Looking for that average all rounder for an average surfer on the east coast
@@tmoney4191 I live on the sunshine coast and had the monstabox hyfi as my last everyday board and now have the BB3 swallow. Same volume but i was able to drop 2 inches with the bb3 so i found it fit better in the pocket of the wave on those small days where you are still trying to push through turns. Both boards can grovel in waist high slop but in my opinion the bb3 is about 15% less work to get through gutters and fat sections. BB3 hasnt let me down on 4ft days and if it gets any bigger then its usually time to bust out the HP shorty. Hope this was helpful
Do you think a ci fever would be an all round board for the northern beaches
Max Drewe yeah! This BB3 would be great too, both great all rounders!
Hey I have many boards, FEVER included and Blakbox 2 not the 3. different boards mate. Fever all rounder more performance so works better with some work or push. I used the BB2 in OZ for small days 1-3F. Flater rocker, wider, shorter than FEVER. Easy and fun board. If you wanna rip on 2-8F waves fever, 1-5F go with BB2 or get both for good quiver :D (see the FEVER as an AIR 17ish)
Nick B. La yea I’ll probs go the fever then looks like a hell good board
@@maxdrewe9149 With the FEVER you'll feel it right away, meaning you like it or not. Since it's a BB3 review I don't want to push you to go FEVER but do what you feel. JS BlakBox2 is a really easy going and fun board. BB3 should be the same. You can get a lot of "performance" from it too. Depends of your daily waves. As I said both can be a great quiver. And JS glass is a must. CI more fragile from my experience ;-)
Nick B. La really I had a js Monsta and the rails started to crack
Eh Craig wat height and weight are you?
Thx
Might hav asked this before sorry mate forgot...
I have asked to Mark on other board reviews but I have not received a response.
Mark Tull hey! 5’10 x 90kgs!
Thx mate
Hi Craig
It would be great to hear what your current Quiver is can you name the boards and dimensions?
Groveler small wave board
Twinny
Performance Board
Step up
Gun
Really enjoy the reviews and value your opinion.
I might put together a video shortly with a few of my few favourite boards... Maybe focusing on board types like Twins etc...
What did you like better, BB3 or Air 17X?
Probably the BB3 - just a little bit easier to surf.
How would this go vs a Lost V3 Rocket?
Sorry but I haven't ridden the Lost V3 Rocket!