Comicsgate Banned Again: Another Controversial Book Disappears From Indiegogo and Google

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  • čas přidán 26. 07. 2024
  • Unfortunately, Indiegogo continues to effectively shadowban more campaigns by the day. The latest victim is the new Comicsgate Magazine Rok!t. It's getting very hard to ignore that this only seems to be happening to CG-related books, such as Shane Davis' Inglorious Rex 2, Jon Malin's Graveyard Shift, Mike Baron's Private American and Patrick Thomas Parnell's Johnny Phantasm.
    Rok!t: www.indiegogo.com/projects/ro...
    Rok!t 2: igg.me/at/rokitmag/x/9599926#/
    Johnny Phantasm Extreme 93: igg.me/at/pkh-Li4D97s/x/95999...
    Graveyard Shift Omega Storm: igg.me/at/OmegaStorm/x/9599926#/
    The Private American: igg.me/at/theprivateamerican/...
    Frog G: igg.me/at/froggvgm/x/9599926#/
    Inglorious Rex 2: igg.me/at/ingloriousrex2/x/95...
    GueyZine: airith.com/pages/comics-guey-...
    Jack the Ripper: Vampire Hunter 2: www.comicsavalon.com/products...
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    00:00 Rok!T Magazine shadowbanned
    01:30 Other shadowbanned Comicsgate books
    03:40 Indiegogo Support Page
    07:30 New CG websites
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  • @Michael_Bancroft
    @Michael_Bancroft  Před rokem

    If you enjoy indie comic talk, subscribe to this channel!

  • @NorrinRaddIITurbo
    @NorrinRaddIITurbo Před rokem +23

    Shadow banning your costumers who run campaigns is insane. Now’s the time to find another crowdfunding site.

  • @evolutiondl1492
    @evolutiondl1492 Před rokem +14

    It feels like people in Comicgate don't want to admit that IndieGoGo is screwing with them. I know IndieGoGo used to be the favourite child but it's time to admit when that child has taken the wrong path. The lack of communication and the shadowbanning of many CG campaigns is just ridiculous. I know some people have no other choice but to use IndieGoGo but what people need to admit is IndieGoGo can't be trusted 100%. Actions speak louder than words and so far all their actions are against CG.

    • @Michael_Bancroft
      @Michael_Bancroft  Před rokem +7

      I understand the hesitation, with so much money on the line, but yeah, definitely time to divorce ourselves from the notion that IGG is ‘our’ site. Just another corporation like all the rest at this point.

    • @Vonbrucken
      @Vonbrucken Před rokem +1

      @@Michael_Bancroft What about top unfulfilled campaigns?

    • @bakedturkeys2132
      @bakedturkeys2132 Před rokem +1

      @@Michael_Bancroft Is there a chance that Young Rippa might shed some light on building the kind of framework that his site and distribution have? Once everyone has their own websites there can be an aggregate news site that has updates on each campaign and provides links to the sites.

  • @SnarkticonDM
    @SnarkticonDM Před rokem +3

    I hope Shane has moved on from the “maintenance issue” belief he was hoping for and is now in full F U IGG beast mode

  • @InkSpots
    @InkSpots Před rokem +14

    For me this is feeling less and less like a glitch....and more and more like an attack....It's been over two weeks still no response from Indiegogo after several emails.

  • @stephenson1080
    @stephenson1080 Před rokem +5

    Giving 9% of your funds to Indiegogo while not receiving any of Indiegogo's traffic is messed up. It's best to fund your comic book on your own website if you aren't going to get any traffic from Indiegogo.

    • @Michael_Bancroft
      @Michael_Bancroft  Před rokem +4

      It’s 5%, but yes, if they’re not bringing anything to the table, you have to wonder what you’re getting for your fees.

  • @Michael_Bancroft
    @Michael_Bancroft  Před rokem +12

    We're trying to find any comic books that aren't related to Comicsgate that have also been shadowbanned like this. If you're aware of one, PLEASE share it.

    • @randyhowell94
      @randyhowell94 Před rokem

      Thanks for helping out Steve Dye (never thought one of my tweets would show up in a video). DM me on twitter to share your email address and I will forward you an email I received from Indiegogo that contains info every creator should know.

  • @dalea8792
    @dalea8792 Před rokem +3

    looking up Indiegogo on Glassdoor makes it sound like they are running around like chickens with their heads cut off this year. Lots of management upheaval.

  • @SnarkticonDM
    @SnarkticonDM Před rokem +4

    Every mod on streams (even Jabba’s lazy ass) better be posting links and everyone better be tweeting them out. This is war

  • @Thurmanation2011s
    @Thurmanation2011s Před rokem +3

    Yeah Inglorious Rex 2 doesn't even show up in Google anymore, even if I type Indiegogo. Just the first campaign shows up. It was showing up before.

  • @dalea8792
    @dalea8792 Před rokem +5

    In regard to Google, it uses web crawlers that follow links to build search results. (among other things) If Indiegogo gets rid of links to certain Campaign pages, they won't be indexed and are not searchable. Sites can also put a nofollow command to tell search engines not to index a page. Has anyone found this on shadow banned IGG campaigns?

    • @torrasque0151
      @torrasque0151 Před rokem +2

      Yes, some of them have "noindex", JDA did an article and Danger Vanessa did a stream about it.

  • @ElliotRodriguezArt
    @ElliotRodriguezArt Před rokem +4

    We shouldn't be so naive to think that this isn't intentional. In my opinion, Indiegogo is without a doubt doing this on purpose to hit CG where it hurts. We were made aware of the site's changes last year and we speculated then what it could mean for the crowdfunding market. This is just another step in their blatant disregard for CG's books. We should start encouraging more and more creators to do what Airith and Mandy are doing. It's the only way to keep it going. Indiegogo is done.

  • @alexanderurqhartjensen939

    Did anyone ever calculate how much Comicsgate related comics has brought in earnings to Indiegogo, even roughly speaking?
    I hope - if this treatment stands - that Comicsgate will find another platform to publish on, preferably one they all share.

    • @InkSpots
      @InkSpots Před rokem +1

      It is a substantial amount for us....25% that's a lot

    • @timothyfitzgerald3168
      @timothyfitzgerald3168 Před rokem

      CG campaigns have collectively raised over $15M on IGG. I think? They take %5 (I have heard that it can be more for In Demand products?), so that is ~$750K. Maybe closer to $1M if it is more In Demand.

    • @SnarkticonDM
      @SnarkticonDM Před rokem +1

      Graham Nolan tweeted that we made over 15 million

  • @John_Q
    @John_Q Před rokem +6

    Bet Eric July saw this coming. Great foresight.

    • @snarkboojum9949
      @snarkboojum9949 Před rokem

      Eric have enormous audience. It’s easy to him to dwarf any other comics creator. Also he has support of the fandom menace - of cause he can allow himself to create his own publishing site.

    • @John_Q
      @John_Q Před rokem +2

      @@snarkboojum9949
      I doubt it's very expensive since a lot of other smaller indie developers are starting to do it, as shown by Mike in this video.
      Eric doesn't trust third parties getting involved with his product, which is wise.

    • @snarkboojum9949
      @snarkboojum9949 Před rokem

      @@John_Q i dont saying its expensive,
      I saying that he can do it because he himself is bigger then igg.
      Others(even evs) does not have that capacity. They want to have walk-ins and new people from igg.

    • @evolutiondl1492
      @evolutiondl1492 Před rokem +2

      @@snarkboojum9949 Stop giving these IndieGoGo lovers excuses. Mandy Summers did it, so forget about Eric audience. When Eric said he is starting his own comic book many people suggested he use IndieGoGo and Kickstarter, then a few days later he changed his mind and said that he might actually do it on his own website and some people gave him a pushback on that. That means even if they could make their own website they wouldn't do it because they have this blind love for IndieGoGo.

    • @John_Q
      @John_Q Před rokem +3

      They should be using any website to sell their books, along with their own imo. That way they get maximum exposure without pigeonholing themselves to just one storefront.
      They could offer exclusive items on their own websites to drive more sales there leaving them with more profit.

  • @bobzilla9p0
    @bobzilla9p0 Před rokem

    I like how "lack of activity" in their minds is a good reason to remove a campaign from searchability, cause that helps people find it and actually be active to the campaign! In a true business sense this is ludicrous, and the only function it serves is to limit sales and thus Indiegogo's profit. These creators might have a joint case against Indiegogo, as they can prove financial impact.

  • @100thmonkey
    @100thmonkey Před rokem

    SInce when do you have to EARN your way into Search?!
    If all else fails the Search function should be THE way to find any campaign.
    Unbelievable.

  • @oncomics1128
    @oncomics1128 Před rokem +2

    I can't find a reason for this ongoing. I think there is ESG shenanigans.

  • @Franpowah
    @Franpowah Před rokem +1

    Wokefundme has been openly hostile to Comicsgate for a long time now, only reason to put campaigns there is for outrage marketing just like hollywood does, which is dirty as fuck.

  • @thephoenixhasflown
    @thephoenixhasflown Před rokem

    Aaaaand indiegogo joins the fray. God I hate when I'm right sometimes.

  • @Hedgehobbit
    @Hedgehobbit Před rokem

    This has been happening for years. Welcome to the party.

  • @ddoyssecretaltaccount1143

    Makes me wonder if this is passive aggressive retaliation because CGers actively warned people about IGG's auto tipping scam?

    • @Michael_Bancroft
      @Michael_Bancroft  Před rokem

      If that were the case, that would be extraordinarily disappointing.

  • @Flog1077
    @Flog1077 Před rokem

    EVS won’t say what it really is

  • @avehein
    @avehein Před rokem

    Time to move on, if possible.

  • @ComicsGateIsComicsGreat

    Shenanigans!

  • @PixelTraitor
    @PixelTraitor Před rokem

    gotta fight back and need better collab between promo sites to build a better ecosystem.

  • @thetraveller4839
    @thetraveller4839 Před rokem

    It's way past time creators seek out independent methods to promote their work and not rely solely on the likes of Indiegogo, Patreon or even CZcams. People need to wake up and see with their own eyes what's really happening.

  • @chessoc7799
    @chessoc7799 Před rokem

    did they hire folk from kickstarter?

  • @TheLethalDiva
    @TheLethalDiva Před rokem

    I don't know if you saw but Ya Boi Zack did a video on this the other day which is a bit patronizing.

  • @Gotblade
    @Gotblade Před rokem

    What's the alternative? How did the Rippaverse do it?

    • @Michael_Bancroft
      @Michael_Bancroft  Před rokem +2

      He built his own site, but I don’t this it’s feasible that every single creator does that to. Very few creators have the audience to make it work.

    • @Gotblade
      @Gotblade Před rokem

      @@Michael_Bancroft so then a coalition of creators for the common good of their books getting to market? Following the Rippa model? Maybe with advice from him on how to do it and keep it from being compromised? Definitely keep it from being a corporate entity!

    • @thetraveller4839
      @thetraveller4839 Před rokem

      @@Michael_Bancroft I agree to an extent.
      Not everyone can pull of what Eric did due to the lack of funds, the built in audience and the means. Even still, I would encourage creators to find some means that works best for them. In this day and age, total independency would be the best way to go, if you ask me. At least, you alone have complete control over your own work.

  • @oncomics1128
    @oncomics1128 Před rokem

    Searching works much better if you choose comics in the type. The "!" symbol is a SQL problem and might set off a security flag. If I wrote the code I would break it because it looks like a hack attempt. Hope that helps, Michael

  • @svensvensson2724
    @svensvensson2724 Před rokem +1

    Women.

  • @markbertenshaw3977
    @markbertenshaw3977 Před rokem

    Is there a support twitter address we could use? Otherwise maybe someone reads @Indiegogo ?

    • @Michael_Bancroft
      @Michael_Bancroft  Před rokem

      Just the regular one I think, and no one ever responds with it.