SMT: Nocturne Hardtype - Baal Avatar (Low Level)
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- čas přidán 9. 03. 2021
- I am become Lady Dante, the destroyer of birbs.
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Rules:
- This is a low level run of zombero's hardtype mod: www.romhacking.net/hacks/3299/
- The aim is to keep XP gain as low as possible without affecting my sanity.
- Hard mode, obviously
- No stat boosting items
- All other game mechanics are fair game!
Hardtype changes:
- Baal HP: 13000 → 32000
- Beast Eye → Dragon Eye
- She no longer seems to have Holy Wrath
- She now has Phanta Rhei (Mega AoE Force dmg)
- She now has Heat Riser (Raises all stats 2 stages)
- She now has Antichthon (Heavy almighty dmg + lowers all stats 1 stage)
- Bael's Bane is now almighty
Ose/Flauros HP: 6700 → 12500
Oh, I like this one! Baal gets a bunch of upgrades that turn this from a joke fight into one of the better endgame bosses. For starters, skipping the Hallel was never a realistic option here, as she still summons them after taking just ~6500 damage (and they will Diarahan her any time she goes below this threshold). Bael's Bane can no longer be blocked, but its targetting is at least predictable. She always goes after the lowest level party member who isn't already a fly. This generally allows us to manipulate her to target a certain demon, replacing it with another low level backup demon while we resurrect it (hey Uzubae, we've got one last job for you). Also her first action is always a scripted use of this so it's best to start out with some other low level flybait in the lineup. Sorry Arahabaki.
The most essential affinities here are at least one instance of both expel and force repel. This will ensure her round is immediately cut short whenever she casts Mahamaon or Phanta Rhei, which is really important with the crazy number of press turns she can get with Dragon Eye. I also made a new Sparna with Void Expel, and I decided to give it Mediarahan since I figured having Demi as our main healer in this fight is not a good idea when he already has so much other stuff to do.
It's best to trigger the Hallel phase with the gang already focussed so you can deal as much damage as possible before the inevitable buff removal. Ose & Flauros have many moves between them including AoE spells of each element, AoE phys, shields and buffs - but more than anything they like to spam Dekunda and Dekaja respectively. In fact this phase went by amazingly quickly as Ose never got a chance to do anything, and by the time Flauros started getting turns it was all too late. Things all seemed to be going smoothly and then... the last few rounds happened. I had to make a snap decision at the very end, but I wasn't entirely confident it was the right one and I still don't know if that final crit mattered.
My only criticism of this fight would be that Bael's Bane is a little too random. My initial attempt died because she turned my entire gang into flies over the course of a couple of rounds and there's no real way to deal with that at any level, since the only cure for fly is death. The Heat Riser/Megidola spam on the other hand would be more survivable at reasonable levels, so I'm down with it.
Now let's go murder God. - Hry
Okay, so I got curious because of the description and decided to add up the damage Lady Dante had taken between Ose's Diarahan and your final attack. At that critical point, she had taken a total of 30,745 damage, meaning it would take 1,255 to finish her off. The final hit did 1,888 with a crit, so one would assume it'd do about 1,258 without it, but of course that depends on a damage roll in that alternate scenario.
Even after all that, I'm still not entirely sure the crit mattered. Huh.
You madman
Thank you math man
Dat ending though. Stick it in my veins.
After this, the Mithra and Black Rider fights... it's safe to say Megidola is the true villain of this run.
And for the "nice music sync" squad, the whole bit at 2:38 where she summons the Hallel was pretty nice
I can't believe Baal summons the CHEETAHMEN for her epic battle
What a failed expirement...
Lmaoooo
they really do look like cheetamen tho
Arahabaki: What is my purpose?
Demifiend: You get turned into a fly
Arahabaki: Oh my Kagutsuchi
@@prinnydude5864 oh my yhvh
Good to see Wu Kong is practicing social distancing by extending his staff when attacking.
And flying Too with his Cloud thing
flynn smt4
@@HuangLongGaming Concentrate >> Pass >> Pass >> Pass >> Anthicthon +8
@@YEP753 fool, Charge+5-pass-pass-pass-Desperate hit-smirk
3:30 i can feel the ai expanding its brain cells by atleast 90%
"Embrace Monke" should be a reason.
And then they became *FLIES*, funniest shit I've ever seen
12:53 Where everything almost went to shit
I mean, it would be stupid not to abuse heat riser when you have it available
14:27 i hurt a little inside at that part
that final attack was straight out of a goddamn anime
that's one great ending, either the calculator is working as intended or you just don't give a fuck anymore lol
I knew I'd done about 6k since she entered her low HP stance, and the best I could do to try and salvage was Dekaja stone + heal which still left me vulnerable to further Riser/Megidola spam or her turning Wu into a fly. So I decided to go full YOLO
I can’t believe Baal puts up a fight now
Just finished this amazing game. Time to binge your videos now that I don't have to worry about spoilers anymore!
Congrats! What ending did you get?
@@TheAxeLord47911 Thanks, I got the True Demon ending but I would have sided with Isamu otherwise. Damn this game was awesome.
Hardtype makes this go from the worst of the reason bosses to the best, it’s a joke in the original if you know what to expect.
Yea. In vanilla, if you got Masakados, the only move Baal Avatar can hit you with is Megidola. And if you're a high enough level, you can even kill her in a single turn and skip the Hallel phase entirely, which is something I did
Dat ending was absolutely epic
Baal Avatar curses Uzubae because she knows that Chiaki can never compare.
THE FINAL STRETCH OF THE RUN
HOLY SHIT
You know she lost her right arm (maybe because of searching of magatsuhi at yoyogi park), then she kinda regain her right arm again because of gozu tennoh
But when she got her reason and kinda became baal avatar she ended up losing her left arm
Like people said "an eye for an eye" an arm for an Arm
we need monke and arahabaki and bae all out at once
The triple threat
Holy crap, that ending. Double Heat Riser is ridiculous, man.
were you keeping track of how much damage you dealt or did you just yolo it on the final attack because that was terrifying
6:55 Uzubae grand entrance
Holy fuck that ending
Thank god SMT bosses normally don't know how to make optimal turns lmao
if they did, no one would ever beat them haha
Honestly I was kinda disappointed it didn't end like the non hardtype run where you straight up skipped the summoning part
on the other hand GOOD LORD THAT ENDING
You crit so many times lol, nice. Wish I had crit rates like that :'( but fr, keep up the good work, I really enjoy this content
I read the first part of the description, and I was still surprised.
What if you get turned into a fly while having the Void Expel skill? Are you still weak to Expel?
I'm not sure. I remember being surprised that Phanta Rhei didn't OHKO Uzume after she got turned into a fly, so it's possible that Anti-Magic was still having an effect there?
the hallel die
...
*9 m o r e m i n u t e s o f v i d e o
ps: favorite hardtype fight so far and my favorite bird is on your team :D
Which birb? Both have been endgame MVPs tbf
@@JimReaperSaysUnsubscribe yatagarasu. i fused him with sacrificial fusion and used him until Baal. He died to a lot of Mamudoons
@@bullblood_fan17 Yatagarasu is great. I wanted to bring him to Kagutsuchi but it was too tricky to make one with enough HP to tank Infinite Light
@@JimReaperSaysUnsubscribe yeah his vit is a problem, but wind cutter is so op
Has anyone been able to mute Ose in this fight? When I use Makajam Rock on Flauros it says "VOID" as expected, but when I try it on Ose it says "MISS". I have used 99 Makajam Rocks on Ose but he didn't get muted even once.
EDIT: After looking in the debug mode, the letter besides his curse modifier is B. That means he can be damaged by curse attacks but cannot be muted or poisoned, right?
Yeah I'm afraid that means you can't mute him. Kinda weird that he can be damaged by curse skills at all at that point. IIRC there aren't even any single target damaging curse spells so it's difficult to see where you could take advantage of this... I guess Soul Divide would hurt him? That's no use here though. Do you think solo Baal will be possible at all then?
@@JimReaperSaysUnsubscribe It is possible. I just need to get lucky when she's alone. Triple Megidola or Heat Riser into double Megidola could kill me.
Edit: I take back what I said, this fight is bullshit.
Edit 2: I did it
"He can be damaged by curse attack"
Brb i'll try using soul divide on him.
Edit : It worked in Vanilla, free 3k damage, baby. Idk if Zombero changed his attribute or not in Hardtype
arahabaki downgraded to being a fruit fly :(
clutch 😳
Monke used CRIT!
It's super effective!
It's Dante v. Dante.
Dan of Te
oh boy i hope dante wins
Demifiend: I aint no simp
Think about it, could flies technically count as birbs?
All birbs fly, but not all flies birb.
@@JimReaperSaysUnsubscribe do all birbs fly?
*sad penguin noises*
...yes.
@@DmmyV anything can fly if you have a cannon
@@no64256 or a trebuchet
Oh boy imagine if Jim went to fight Lucifer with the dream team Arahabaki, Dynamic Attack Sheep and Uzubae
Not bringing Dante to any of the Dante fights? I am disappoint.
Dante's right there tho!
So that's it? No Iron Claw this time? Plenty of novelties in this last boss fight, then. I'm hyped.
Let's see how divine shot will handle Godlucy.
Also, I can't read "Expel Repel" without thinking it is a parody with Billy Idol's "Rebel Yell".
Luci is prob most likely a pretty anti climatic fight cause Jim is doing repel strat so Demi damage is not gonna be a huge factor
@@tengu6160 Oh, very well pointed. Well, gotta cover weaknesses when Masakados don't give you enough cover :(
But how'll he manage to get the repels, btw? Since he already battled against everyone and there's not enough exp to get all repels for Lucy. Or do you mean the repels on the summons?
@@jptiz1 Repel on the summons, demi is prob gonna be a portable item bot in the fight, maybe get a few free divine shot in if the situation allow
The reason why Jim isn't using Iron Claw is because Hardtype removed it from its respective Magatama
@@TrueCobalion That's a good observation as well. So no Iron Claw for demi-fiend at all, I see.
i'm glad you can't just bring 3 fiends and make this fight a total joke anymore. hardtype has some problems, but man a few of its bosses are really fun
Lucifer fight gonna be intensce
Bael's Bane is almighty, and the only cure is death...
Does the solo run end here?
I mean, you could probably spend like 30 minutes chipping away at their health while spamming Tetraja rock, but still...
Damn, that's... uh, a problem.
Fly status also increases your damage received modifiers a lot so it could be very difficult to tank those Megidolas. And your own damage modifiers become truly pitiful. Maybe with Magic Mirror spam you could pull it off? Idk if mirrors still work on flies, I only know that it disregards innate repels.
@@JimReaperSaysUnsubscribe Mirrors work on flies. But if she uses Megidola (which Mirrors can't repel) that plan falls right through.
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If you can beat Trumpeter at all, then you *might* stand a chance here...maybe...
The paralyze from Mjolnir though
so true
Hey Jim do you do your research on bosses beforehand or just go right in with and then plot afterward?
Depends, but I tend to test play ahead a bit so I don't spend hours fusing useless teams. I learned this the hard way vs. Pale Rider when I made a team of Zandyne users only to discover his affinity changed and he repels force in hardtype :')
Also some I knew what to expect from either from having watched BuffMaister's streams or people warning me in the comments
@@JimReaperSaysUnsubscribe Would you ever play SMT Devil Survivor Overclocked if you could?
holy shit
I laughed so hard at the thumbnail 😅😂😂
She really had it out for Yatagarasu huh
Magic crater lady
huang long gaming
Can you livestream the lucifer prep and attempts
I'm surprised there's no dragon eye quadruple baels bane script, dds 2 style.
At least DDS(2) makes Bat status automatically wear off after a few turns.
zombero really did screw up this one with Bael's Bane being almighty and UNDODGEABLE, a move that punishes the player so much shouldn't be undodgeable at least the targeting can be manipulated but still.
I think it's okay, I like how it forces you to strategize differently to normal by having subs on the bench. I just don't think she should be able to use it multiple times in one round. If she makes her way through the team to Demi the fight is over.
tetraja can cancel out its expel weakness and makes it manageable, it's how i got through the fight
@@heeho8929 Me too
Arahaflyki
I adore this fight but I hate how Baels Bane is random with when it comes out
Becomes hella annoying because you have to react to it and oh god this is going to be the worst when I get to her
Also I'm finally ready to get back on the run!
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Can THE FUCKING SWITCH PORT COME OUT ALREADY geez....
44 hp at the end of the battle, 45 exp to level up. huh
is leaving flauros alive not an option
He has Diarahan too, no? Not 100% sure now you mention it. That would be a hell of a cheese. Dekaja spam still annoying tho
@@JimReaperSaysUnsubscribe Flauros has Diarahan in the original game, though I have left him alive by walling out Baal from doing any moves that don't make her lose 2 Press Turns (you just have to hope she misses Megidolas but at +8 agility advantage that's pretty fine), but here if Baal's Bane always hits and is almighty, that's not gonna be an option.
here ya go czcams.com/video/BhQkuIpSnk4/video.html (one version old though)
upon a bit of a closer inspection, i realized that flauros actually never got a turn in that video where it could heal baal after ose died
it casted dekaja twice, before the 6.5k threshold, and then never got a turn again since baal goes first
it does have diarahan in vanilla as stated
That's a long fight i tell you hwhat
Is there anything stopping her from pulling a mot and spamming 6 megidolas in a single turn?
Well she can't cast Dragon Eye repeatedly, so the most she can get to herself is 4 actions after the Hallel are dead.
The most threatening thing (assuming she starts fully debuffed) would be 2 Heat Risers followed by 2 Megidolas
Sorry, I meant when the two are still alive and the Hallel uses Dragon Eye, but I realize now that would just give her 3 turns tops.
I am disappointed... to think you'd use a luster candy
shit i guess i really am doing the reach level 99 without leaving shinjuku hospital run arent i
Hype
Hmm no iron claw Jim?
Demi doesn't learn it in hardtype :(
@@JimReaperSaysUnsubscribe Aww so he still stuck using divine shot? Also is agility still works the same as vanilla. I mean can demi still hit consistently with just 2 agility in hardtype?
@@si-level funny man thinks that agility might still be a dump stat in hardtype
*you poor soul*
@@The_PolterGhost well i didn't play hardtype. I feel lot of boss is just damage sponge
@@si-level To be fair, you're experiencing the game from a low-level standpoint, when the game's formulas have been redesigned so that they scale better with levels. When played at the appropriate pace, it's less damage sponge, more not wiping out bosses in no time at all.
You don't really notice the numbers, except for the four devas, who actually are horrible long boss fights that are mostly about having the appropriate teams to fight them and surviving for 10 minutes than actually having a thrilling fight.