The Mac Mini You Need to Buy ASAP
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- čas přidán 2. 10. 2023
- Sometimes getting the latest and greatest gadget is not the smartest move. Old is Gold and let me tell you why in this video. Mac Mini is 2023
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I still have 2 of the 2014 Mini's that I use for experimentation and as part of a cybersecurity lab running scans and other monitoring applications. They're pretty slow, but for security work they are fast enough and handle external storage very well, when I need to transfer large scan logs. The best feature for me is the remote management the I can run from a main console and look at both computers at the same time. I'm retired now and have dismantled my lab, so I'm looking to donate these to the local college.
I found one of these mac minis in a alleyway yesterday. Along with almost 30 dell laptops. It runs pretty good.
Got my mac mini 2012 in 2013 and still use it today.. right now in 2023. 10 years for any computer is good.
That’s so dope! 🙌🏽
Must have the i7 quad version and at least 8gb ram.. it's still serviceable for a basic web/email/media consumption computer...
@@timschultz1928 I edit 4K video on the quad i7. No problem at all. With RAID0 SSD's and 16GB and can do some heavy CPU stuff. GPU is weak, but I'm no gamer.
My 2012 Mini i5 has OpenCore Patcher which allows me to run MacOS 13. Seems to work fine for my use.
You're absolutely right with your choice for that purpose. I run an even older Mini as a home music server. It dual boots OSX occasionally, and Linux Mint (DE) most of the time, has alternative browsers in OSX which are still maintained, and is fully up to date in Mint. Best of all, it also plays CD's and DVD's when needed. Many Apple devices are seemingly indestructible, and I've even seen a G3 iMac DV being used in a workshop, recently, running Linux Debian 6 very comfortably.
Thank you so much for watching!!
I still use 2012 Mac mini 6,1 1.0 with Linux Mint daily. I honestly don't feel that compelled to upgrade due to performance. All I do is some light coding, web browsing etc. Not a fan of Mac OS though.
linux mint is best
Hahaha that’s amazing! Yes MacOs could use some work for sure. Wow! Thank you very much for watching
@prasad619ful
13 hours ago
linux mint is best @@RajeyWajey
Yep, Linux Mint runs beautifully on ancient computers. I run it on a 2008 Cheese Grater Mac Pro. Runs fast and sure! Only thing I would say is that Virtual Box running Windows 10 is slow...... but doable! I can actually run Affinity designer, Quicken and Camtasia on that system. They are slow.... but they work OK.
I picked up a 2012 Mac Mini with 16gb RAM, quad core possessor, and SSD(with a port to add a second SSD) for $100. It works great. No problem running several web browser tabs, streaming Netflix, etc. I truly don't think a better computer value exists for basic computing than an older Mac Mini.
I still use my macbook pro 2011 every single day. I DJ with it a few nights a week, and I do edit CZcams videos on it. Yes it's slower than something newer, but while it works, I'll just keep using it
In my country the Philippines Sellers still selling this product for around $200 glad to find this video. It seems like I need to order it offshore.
i think its a little older, mid 2011 i believe. would this work for garage band and music producing, and will it run Photoshop today?
thanks for the heads up King
Thank you for watching king !!!!
I still run 2011 minis for daily use and media. I got one for 20 bucks and put a 20 dollar SSD in it and used spar ram from salvage. And for 40 bucks I used OCLP and have been running Monterey on it.
Heck yeah! I actually ended up buying another and use it as a local HomeKit bridge. Great little devices! Thank you so much for watching :)
This approach basically works for everything nowadays. Clothes I get for max 10 bucks at the thrift shop. A top of the line Bravia or Viera from around 2010 can be had for like 25 bucks, and is in many ways better than most new TV's. Kitchen ware, tools, plants, cars, you name it, all being a fraction of the new price.
Great video
Thank you very much
Have such MacMini with Linux as Mediaserver. I love it.
My 2014 MacBook Pro is still usable. It even runs Windows 10 under Parallels. I upgraded to an M2 Mini Pro recently so I could run Sonoma and the latest version of Teams but I will be keeping the MacBook when I need the portability. Back in my PC days I used to have to upgrade every four years.
That said, the Mini Pro lets me get work done faster. It’s much better at videoconferencing where you have multiple applications open and need to switch between them a lot. The OS loads faster and I don’t have to remember to plug it in. And the desktop setup is more streamlined, not quite as much as it would be with an iMac but that’s a worthwhile trade off because I like to choose my peripherals.
Hey, it sounds like we have a similar scenario! I’ve had a 2014 MacBook Pro that I’ve used all this time. How has the Mac mini m2 pro been for you? I’m thinking about just getting the Mac mini m2 “non-pro”. Do you think it will run adobe suite programs well?
Greav vid, high quality like idk why ppl dont know you yet.
Thank you for the nice words :)
@@RajeyWajey no problem bro you need more subscribers, you are on a level of CZcamsrs with 10 million. I wouldn't be surprised if you reach that number soon
@@ethereal41 Holy moly ! gave me crazy motivation!
Ok. Again if u update mac os chances are your audio recording software or other plugins may not work correctly the same thing happens on both systems. Though I will say that more incompatibility issues happen on windows machines. Thats why its important to follow the recommended parts upgrade list provided by pc manufacturers.
Can you install Windows in "bare metal" mode on that machine? That is: without needing to have any Apple software remaining on the boot drive. Or, is Boot Camp the only option for running Windows?
Unfortunately from what I can remember boot camp is the only straightforward way to get windows on this device. Perhaps there’s newer methods now. But I’ve only ever used boot camp. Thank you for watching
Its amazing what you can find, I recently get a Mac Pro "trash can", Macbook Air i7 (I was searchingo for one i7) and a Mac mini for very low price even cheaper than this in the video and they work flawless
At the rate that Apple updates the Mac Mini, buying a 2014 is similar to purchasing an iPhone 13.
Just bought the Mac Mini M2 base model for $499.99.
That’s a really good deal. Will have to end up getting one myself!
@@RajeyWajey yeah not sure when the sale runs out so you may want to do it soon. You just have to shop the education page when you go to the apple site.
Thank you for letting me know! Will have to get one for the channel soon then!
Where???
@@happyhogan40 They mentioned it was on sale. Cant see the comment anymore, but the Mac Mini also has a student discount if you're in an Undergrad Program
id run Monterey on it as although im running Sonoma on a late 12 imac and a 2017 mac air, monterey is fine and works great. Ventura pushes it....
I ran Big Sur through OCLP on a 2008 mac pro i got super cheap and maxed out until I replaced it this year. I still use it for capture off my DVI vhs camera (I'm weird) due to its thunderbolt ports. Old tech is 1000% valid. Arguably the only reason anyone 'needs' new tech is security that comes with regularly updated Operating Systems.
Looking at this and the 2014 iMac. Which do you recommend? Just using it for homeschooling and general use. I have an old LED TV I could use as a monitor.
I would recommend this for sure. I understand the appeal of having a full all in one. But repairs on those are a pain and from what I can tell, not many cheap iMacs out there. Thank you and take care :)
@@RajeyWajey ok that’s very helpful! Another question….can I use an external ssd to run Mac OS on one of these instead of the slow HDD they come with? I need 1tb and the external ssd are cheaper. Not to mention I would never be able to change out the internal. I saw something on Apples website that had instructions for doing this. If I can, will the Mac mini run off the ssd completely like with apps I add and everything?
@@nikkiwasher7235 You can for sure run MacOS off an external drive. And yes you can also upgrade the ones in these old ones for very cheap. I upgraded my mac with a 1tb Sata SSd for next nothing. Hope that helps : )
You know what sucks about 2014 macs: Intel became much better in 2015. Their 14nm processors are lower power, and HDMI/DP 4K support became standard. Their 2014 lineup was very very bad. I would recommend to get a 2012 Quad i7 2.3 with 8 GB and SSD as minimum, as it at least has a processor nearly twice as fast as the best 2014 model, and RAM/SSDs can be upgraded.
@@lovemadeinjapan I ended up getting a 2014 Mac Mini for $90 on eBay with i5 2.6, 8 gigs ram, and 512 ssd inside. I got a cheap monitor on facebook marketplace and set it up last night and it’s surprisingly smooth and fast. If I had known that about the 2012 I would have looked at those. I don’t know anything about Macs.
im more interested in the plant pot cool vid tho
The fact that Apple has controlled every part that has gone to all of their machines, for decades, means there is less variability that needs to be considered regarding drivers etc. Because of that, you have a built-in "long-term support - LTS" - of the _hardware_ . That is why they last so long. Windows/intel/AMD is more of a "rolling" Systems environment. For audio recording, I always tell people to keep their old systems and unplug them from the freaking inter-web!
I completely agree. I have an M1, and have been pissed cause I wish it had a 1 TB ssd. So I ended up getting a 2012 MBP and upgraded the ram, ssd, and put a new battery. I then created a network and just access the other files from it.
Soldered storage is the worst invention of mankind
WOW! So I can hook up my projector to it and watch movies online directly from it at ease?
Yup! And there’s apps to control it right from ur iPhone for a really good home theatre setup
It’s all about “recycled” tech, find a free geek or recycle center that companies/government have a 3-5 year life cycle and “dump” to… bam cheap pc/mac! Haven’t paid over $100 usd for a pc or mac capable of the latest os in years,for pc, just replace gpu, add ram good to go! Mac, well basic tasks as stated in the video is still a solid user experience! Unless you can Louis Rossman it and solder upgrades on.
Yup! Why let em go to a landfill and be e-waste! Works great for everyday stuff. Thank you for watching :)
@@RajeyWajey EXACTLY! That’s also another crazy easy benefit to achieve while saving cash, big deal, wait 30 seconds longer for a render or whatever one does, unless it’s critical/or the like, who cares about bench scores, speed and bragging rights, especially on a mac lol 😆 it just works
@@cuttinchops My exact thoughts! I feel like people over estimate their computer usage alot. I know I did
Monterey likely will be supported for another year from what I have seen.
@@hm_09865 Yeah you're right, however don't think that any security exploits will pop up on this old device at that point. Something to note for sure!
Very family friendly video.
Imagine having a mic on your face and the audio still coming from the built in mic on the camera lol
Uh. Didn’t see the disclaimer?
Will this mini mac run macOS 10.13 or higher?
yes it can go up to BIG SUR
Wifi & bluetooth works find on window for me!
You on a laptop? Because on a custom built you need to buy dongles or adapters and those are not good at all
I will give you that but what is apple number one product beside their phones? a portable device called an MacBook or iPad, same thing doc
@@RajeyWajey
i fix mac minis on the side as a hobby and you CAN FOR SURE USE THESE AS EDITING FOR VIDEOS AND PHOTOS 100%, IF YOU WANNA REALLY HAVE FUN WITH THIS.....MAX IT TO 16 GIG PROMISE YOU. THIS IS FOR EDITING.
If connecting to studio display 5k is there a performance bottleneck, for example when watching some 4k movies.
4K playback works well! But 5k studio display might be really pushing it. Don’t know if I can recommend that
The 2018 is the first with proper 4k/5k playback. Forget it on this machine. I've a 2015 MBP, basically a souped-up MacMini 2014, and it chokes and freezes on 4K with total hangups (worse than BSOD). It works with 4K if it is nice CPU friendly H264 24fps, but if you have more modern HVEC/H265 at higher framerates, like a UHD 60fps demo, the screen will freeze with glitches like stripes, requiring a hard reset.
Is it still true that Windows can't bluetooth?
lol. Windows can. It’s just a buggy mess in my experience. :)
Yup
Yup
watching this on m2 mini
Lucky man! Thank you for watching
Okay elephant in the room here. No doubt Apple products are optimized but Apple does have an issue. I bought the Mac Mini M1 a couple years ago and it was everything Apple said it was however the operating system to me seemed a little outdated. what do I mean by this. In windows I can open up multiple windows on one screen that automatically fit next to each other however, on Mac OS this was a very cumbersome thing to do you have to manually resize your windows. This was a big deal to me because I do audio recording and it frequently knocked me out of my workflow because things just did not work as smoothly like on Windows. Another problem Apple has is that for that price they're offerings are very slim 8 gigs of RAM 256 GB hard drives even 16 gigs and 512 it's a little outdated for 2023 the Baseline model should come with at least 16 gigs and a 1 TB SSD needless to say I went back to Windows I bought a used i-7 9700 maxed out the memory to 32 gigs put a 2 TB Drive SSD for my samples and a 512 GB SSD( all for under 450 by the way) for my boot Drive for audio I can hardly tell the performance difference between the M1 and this 9th gen Intel processor. However for video the mag does mop the floor with the i7 so that's why I'm keeping it for video editing only. I think both systems are great however if you want a better upgrade path without being robbed blind Windows is the way to go
All great points you raise here! I gotta agree with em all. That’s kind of the reason why I’m still on windows. But for simple tasks for my parents this was great buy
A tiny piece of freeware fixes this annoyance.
3:40 Thats just such an invalid point. Its neither supported by (your) reason nor by evidence. Supported Windows Versions work on 9 year old hardware just fine.
I daily drive a Thinkpad x240 from 2013 with windows 10 / ubuntu no problem
This is not "such" an invalid point as you claim. This is known as the "Walled Garden" technique where controlling hardware and software combinations allows for better optimizations. There is a reason why most mainstream apps prefer iPhones, because there is only so many Finite combinations of devices to worry about. WIndows will certainly run on older devices as long as youre careful with the programs you load onto it to prevent it from bogging down (This is coming from a Lifetime WIndows user) Thank you for watching :)
@@RajeyWajey yes, the walled garden is a known technique for better optimisation, the console market is a great example of that.
What a walled garden is not especially good at is longevity.
The walled garden breaks down more and more with every single variation of a product it needs to support.
Supporting 10 year old devices while also supporting every other device that has come out since is the nightmare of any walled garden.
This is exactly where non specific optimisation has its strength.
Makes a great Plex Media Server!
I would rather a 2012 with an i7…got mine for $50.00
Ouuu thats a great deal! But yes same principle! Old is gold
Audio very distorted. sounds over driven.
Woman Repellent? I run and have built quite a few gaming rigs in my day and my mom is a 80 yo graphic designer and artist who has been running high end machines for almost 30 years and my daughter works for a tech firm building system configs. Thanks for the product video though. I just wanted to know if they were still viable and worth dropping a few quid just to tear it apart and tweak into a portable machine for traveling - you answered my questions.
Loool was just trying to be cheeky. Glad I could help!
@RajeyWajey You are indeed cheeky - it put the hackles up on this nearing 50 old broad. Show it to your mom. My mom didn't even learn how to turn a computer on until 25 years ago. My grandma was 80 when she learned and then became a gamer. Teach your momma and encourage her. You are a good son juat doing something lovely for your parents.
I’ve got a 2012 Mac mini with the 2.5GHz dual core intel i5. OS updates ended with Catalina but it still works for web browsing, MS office….and most important of all, streaming GeForce now. She’s getting a bit slow even with the SSD. I just we ordered a used 2018 Mac mini with the 6 core i5 for $200 USD. We’ll see how that one does. Should be way faster. Worst case it gets returned.
Update
8gb of ram is too low for Intel
Not at all. Especially not for just daily tasks as explained. Simple web browsing and etc
Fools buy new, if they don’t need to.
I got the M2 Mac Mini with the SSD dock under it for $500 CAD (360 USD). I installed all the cracked software programs, like PS, Davince, Office 2021... In Canada, I do not think I can get any 500CAD new PC this good. macOS is so smooth, I felt the m2 Mac mini is just more responsive than my RTX gaming PC in a magical way. I also got that 32GB ram RTX 3080 gaming PC for only 800 CAD. I can only buy used things now. They are too attractive for a cheap person like me.
Good luck getting hardware support after 6 years
You mean another 6 years? Because this Mac had support 7 years after launch. Plus like many have mentioned there’s other use cases like Linux Mint and OpenCore
Salam brother ducky 🐤
Your audio is really bad, i.e. way too low. And the music makes the voice unhearable.
I don’t recall having music play over my voice. But thank you for letting me know will try to fix it in the next video. Thanks for watching
The audio is slightly rough but not a big deal. The content is great and everyone improves over time.
@@precisionxt Thank you
That Mac Mini is already obsolete, do you really love your parents? I would not buy that in 2023.
racially motivated
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WHAT A STEAL
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Great video
Thank you so much for watching :)