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- čas přidán 17. 08. 2024
- Plus, Kandi Burruss reveals there's more to Todd Tucker and Mama Joyce's drama that you didn't see on-air.
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I think Todd paying for Miss Joyce’s food was a nice enough gesture. He doesn’t have to bow to her like Kandi does. Respect goes BOTH ways.
Hey lady how are you
Amen to that one
Lailah Lynn okayyy
Love your channel been watching for 3 yrs now
Yeah but Kandi is really close to her mom. It creates more stress for her and in turn her relationship with Todd and the one with her mother if they can't get along. They don't have to be best friends and they don't have to like eachother, but to say hello means a lot to Kandi, and not ripping on Todd I'm sure means a lot to her as well.
“I’m not coming to my daughter’s baby shower because her husband didn’t say ‘hi’ to me earlier that day..” You hear how trifling that sounds?
Idk how anybody deals with MammaJoyce besides Riley since she is just as nasty as her.I am so sick of her!!!!!
Her mom is jealous of her life
It’s so manipulative. It’s a trait of moms who need attention
So immature and manipulative
Mama Joyce is very problematic
Kandi always wants someone to respect her mom but she never requires her mom to give respect. Her mom wants the money.
tina brown exactly!!!! It’s crazy
Mom will never get the money, she'll belong gone before that ever happens fully.
These housewives need to stop throwing the word ‘bully’ around. Bullying is a very serious matter and should not be confused with pettiness.
👏👏
I agree. A bull can bully a rabbit but all these heffas are are bulls. They all have played the bull and the matador at one point in time. They all meet each other with equal force and then cry victims when it’s their turn to receive the backlash.
Jolene Merritt well done your analogy is spot on. Bulls and matadors!
They're all bullies
Seems like Joyce is more focused on Kandi’s money than Todd is 🤷🏽♀️
Always has been sadly she doesnt have kandi interest at heart she simply wants kandi to continue to give her the life shes accustomed to and todd is a threat to her bcuz she thinks kandi will some how hand over her fortune to him or he will run through it and joyce will have nothing
What is the confusion
@@jalysawilliams3518
Joyce don't want her daughter happy she just want her daughters money and she thinks Todd wants to use or spend Kandi's money and she will not get anything. Todd may not have as much money as Kandi but his net worth is a couple of millions. He was one of the producers on RHOA when he met Kandi. They stated "They had to keep their relationship a secret for a year before they let anyone know they were dating. Joyce is miserable and she's making her daughter's life miserable.
Exactly... That's why mamma Joyce hates tod and sees him as a threat
Kandi mother is obsessed with her money smh
So it’s okay for Mama Joyce to disrespect Todd & Todd to get fed up and not have to want to deal with it?! Oh okay 🥴😒. Yeah Todd I don’t blame you either
Right!! like come on now how many times is mama joyce gonna imply that Todd's a gold digger after her daughter's money and he knows she says these things but then she gets mad that he don't say hi when he see her girl I wouldn't speak either I don't care whose mama you are
No it's not ok but Kandi need to talk to her mother she need to tell her if she keeps on she won't come around her no more but I do agree with her mother about Todd
Mama Joyce wants all of Kandi money if she married then Mama Joyce do not get a dime unless Kandi have a trust that's why Mama Joyce is so mad because it's taking from her Kandi give her mother allowance every month and it's a nice little something
And when Mama Joyce talk she makes no sense whatsoever
My thoughts exactly! At this point Todd owes her nothing. Kandi is gonna let her mama be the reason they breakup
Mama Joyce seems just a little too concerned about Kandi's money, if you ask me.
B exactly the money she never worked for! She’s so bitter
I agree
Toooooo concerned it makes you wonder !
Right trynna make sure she keep that check
Kandi's mom just wants her money for herself and shes jealous of Todd because of it and she's not hiding it well!
Stevie that’s what I e been saying her mama wants her to remain single. Songle and bitter like she was. She so fucking sad !
And her mom deserves it more than him. At least the money she made before she got with him. Even though I feel he loves kandi. He still got with her for money initially. Y should he get her money, before her mom, please explain?
Its already been stated that Todd has his own why is everyone content on saying he just with Kandi for her money...its already been stated that Mama Joyce don't want Todd around because she feels that Kandi is not taking care of her like she use to before Todd. That's the whole problem, it doesn't matter who Kandi is with, Mama Joyce is gonna act the same way!
@@lisajones6496 well damn, all Todd want is her money as well, please believe Todd would not be stop and starting, and not finishing all these different jobs, if it wasn't for Kandi money. Kandi already got on him for wasting alot of money, cause he would start different projects and wouldn't finish them, and it was costing a lot of money, HER MONEY!
Mama Joyce needs to mind her own business. Her daughter is married now and no one comes before your spouse
Kandi's Mother is trying her best to cause a divorce, I hope she doesn't win.
Bella BabyGirl Mama Joyce is that old bitty you push down the stairs at church.
OK I am usually not on Mama Joyce side at all. But, with Todd not wanting Kandi to give his 23 yr old daughter money for her birthday because he wanted to teach her a lesson!
What if in the future he is in conrrol to the money and he flips out on Riley! Mama Joyce does need to make Riley her beneficiary....I am not saying that it will happen. Just that ...when peoole show you who they are believe them.
Shonedy Lol🤣🤣🤣🤣
I hope so either. I like there relationship I want my relationship to be just like that with the baby and the husband. That's all I want.
Todd is patient but there's only so much he will take. He brings his own money to the table ( he's smart and used to work for Bravo as a producer) the whole OLG concept was his and the restaurant is successful Kandi herself said it.
Does Kandi understand the premise of "Leave and Cleave"? You are married! Stop letting your mama talk out the side of her neck about your husband! YOU have to live with him! So if she say something bad about him, keep it to yourself! It's not fair for him to always have to be on the defense and be the one apologizing for whatever happened! Call her out, respectfully, and give her boundaries. There is NOTHING wrong with that. 🙄🙄
I agree with you 💯 but Kandi lost her brother and her step dad and her mother will not step up and tell her that it’s okay to live her life. Kandi is scared of letting go of her mom it’s more to it.... and her mom knows this her mother is mentally abusing her she is a narcissists
If it was another housewives that says she was there for shamea when she texted her people would applaud her, but because it's Kenya she's being crucified for trying to help
@@stopthaplanetiwantoff1773 Joyce is not going to step up and tell her its okay because she NEEDS Kandi to fund her lifestyle. No one is saying she has to let her go but she has to give her boundaries. Joyce has NO PROBLEMS cutting her off and doing what she wants so Kandi should follow suit and try to not depend on her or allow her to say something about the man she chose to marry. She stood up to her about Carmen so why can't she do the same for Todd?
Exactly! She’s the only one after Kandie’s money!!
The main thing wrong with their relationship is her ma. I see respect but it goes both ways. She been shitty to that man since day one. I understand why he don't like that women. She is horrible.
“Ppl will take your money” did Mama Joyce forget how she stole Kandi’s identity and rack up thousands in debt? It seems like she is the one that Kandi should keep an eye on!
Oh woooord?
Mama Joyce is a scammer
Did she really???
@@angelicfaithh2664 yes look up the TBQ MAMA JOYCE . It seems like yes mama Joyce had her own money but it was nothing like what Kandi was providing . She had a gambling problem etc , and kandi said her mom put credit cards etc in her name . However kandi still defended her mom, by saying what she does for her isn’t anyone else’s business .
Todd has to be commended for this patience, he has had to put up with a lot from Kandi's family, Kandi's mother drug his name through the dirt and all Kandi's defence has ever been is "that's still my mama"
But I wonder y he can’t do same for his daughter ... to go a whole month with out speaking to her is not expected of a parent.
@@jennifermokwenye6429 Exactly. Men who leaves their kids behind or ignore then when they get a new woman/wife are losers.
Kandi needs to stop telling Todd what her mom say.He knows how she feels about him.And Kandi needs to stop talking in circles when it comes to defending Todd
You are so right, Brianna. She not married to her mom. The Bible say husband and wife become 1, one family united. Why marry if all she's going to say is " my momma said" Todd. Kandi reminds me of that cat on Alice and wonderland. Always grinning. Stop running back and forth repeating, Chester.
Exactly!!! U hit the nail in the ⚰⚰
That's what I said, she causes alot of problems in her own household...why tell him what your mother say when you already know they have issues
This is ridiculous..as much disrespect she has shown Todd and his mom and you boyfriend that got killed, and she accused Kandi's friend of sleeping with Todd.. now she is not coming to her daughters baby shower for her grandbaby..because Todd didn't speak...Giiiirl please. And Kandi Checked him and he apologized for that and he said he was in a fucked up mood. DAMN WHAT DO YOU WANT BLOOD..DAM
He's going to see it on tv. She should just stop. She takes Kandi's money. But that's ok I suppose.
Todd was never disrespectful and he honestly did not owe an apology there.
Either Todd really loves Kandi or really loves his new rich lifestyle for him to keep putting up with Mama Joyce....I'm not sure which it is anymore.
@@ggoodvibes23 he truly loves Kandi. I don't think he's a gold digger type.
Ok so I understand all the things mama Joyce has said and done to him, but to walk in a place and not speak to her nor his wife is disrespectful. We can have an argument five minutes ago on the phone acknowledge me when you come in our place of business. I don’t care what all went on but speaking cost noting
Just because he didn't wanna speak. I mean. Hey he was doing his own thing. Like come on
I mean sometimes he don't want too. And because she talk shit I would have never talked to her either. But at least he payed for your lunch. Like come on now
I like how Kenya is saying “no class” yet you were part of the argument during Kandi’s baby shower 🙃 and mama Joyce is a trip she’s going to be the reason why they divorce I wish Kandi would wake up.
How did Kenya question Porsha and Shamea's friendship? I'm lost on this one. Porsha wants an issue with Kenya
Shawnee ,Chile I can’t wait on the reunion !
well, we all know how it all ends and who wins as usual.
She's insecure about it because she wasn't the first to get a call. All season Kenya was friends with her and the second she got back in Nene's good graces she threw Kenya to the side and started talking crap abut her every chance she got. I was not feeling her towards the end of the season.
Kandi how much can Todd tolerate from your mama Joyce??? Like seriously.
Didn't Kandi say the same thing when Ace was born?
The bottom line is respect just say hi and bye it’s not hard because guess what God will bless him rather she know it or not God got him.... Kandi need to realize her mom by herself for a reason sooooooo wtbs she need to think about that
He deserves a better woman!
sherell hall Let’s be honest, if he said hi Mama Joyce probably wouldn’t be super receptive of it.
@Haley Ed who is kandi married to?? Tod or mama joyce SMH
Kandi needs to support Tod and tell her mama to just stop the bull..Like seriously choops!
Why is that Mama Joyce gets a pass?? Is Todd suppose to continue to let Joyce disrespect him?
HAUS OF AARON Thats what I got from it.
I guess ! Thats what the other ladies think too , or should I say “Kenya & Cynthia”
Shes is so CLEARLY trying to destroy their relationship by being manipulative and the sad part is, it seems to be working. How is not going to Kandies baby shower a punishment for Todd? That's a punishment for KANDI. I could see if it was Todd's birthday party or something.
Her mom is toxic. There is no excuse for her behavior.
Nope she should not. Because she is not going to stop
ElysianFeilds93 Moma Joyce not showing up will NEVER be a punishment for Todd.
Todd is fed up with Kandi’s mother! Him paying for their food is him attempting to be respectful but maintaining boundaries by keeping his distance from her.
Oh so Kandi left out that part in the episode, that Todd knew that Joyce was talkin mess the day before... He paid for y'all food so he acknowledged y'all and mama joyce for sayin he ain't got no money. Talkin about people will steal your lunch box, but he just paid for your lunch/breakfast lol Todd funny.
I feel like Kandi needs to be more disappointed in her Mom for not showing up, and less at Todd. My Mom would never miss a thing that big, she’d get over it for the night to be there for me. I don’t blame Todd for acting the way he does. Kandi is an amazing woman, hopefully they will all get along for the new baby! 💕
I agree my mama can not like you but she don’t have to say anything to you in order to celebrate my good night
I knooooow. I was thinking is she not mad her mother decided not to go.... talking about she would've curse Todd out. Ummm I would've been like., in my most stern voice; Mom let it go. We'll talk about it after the shower. If you don't come, don't call me asking for a thing because it's about my son, not you mom. Then I would tell Her I love Her in the happiness tone. Her mother is self centered and narcissistic. What mom encourages her daughter to have ill feelings toward her husband, who she has two kids with! Most moms want their single-parent daughters to meet a good man to marry. Kandi's mom is trying to turn her child back into a single parent....and for her own benefit. She's scared Todd wouldn't take care of her the way Kandi does if something happened. But honestly, narcissist don't want you to love someone more than them.
Kandi can be mad at her mom, but that's her mother. She has only one. She can also be mad at Todd. Todd would never accept Kandi not acknowledging his mother. So he should have spoken to Mama Joyce even if he was in a funk. He already knows they have a tenuous relationship. Why piss her off?
That's your wife's mom. You have to be respectful even if you don't like what she's saying about you.
I mean she sticking with her mother I guess.
Angel Respect is earned and goes both ways. Just because she’s an elder and his mother in law doesn’t mean he has to go out of his to show her respect when she doesn’t respect him. Respect is earned.
How Kenya gonna say “no class” when she was part of the problem?😂
Because she has class.
I believe that Khandi was thinking the same!!
She doesn't think deep, she said no class and she was actually one of the classless people there.
K L If you call that class, then that speaks a lot about your character. Kenya is a vile snake. Michelle Obama has class. Oprah has class. Cookie Johnson has class. Kenya...absolutely not!
LinusLarrabee You ever seen those women walk into an event for charity half naked with butt pads? Ummm me either. Kenya has no class.
"You can't disrespect someone's mom". But mom can say whatever she wants about your husband? Mama Joyce needs to grow the hell up - she sits at home a pouts instead of supports her daughter. That kind of behavior doesn't deserve respect.
You have to put your parents in their place when necessary. I remember my mum coming to visit and I was going out with her and this was July a hot day. I was going to run errands and wearing a short dress and some tennis shoes. I am 43 and my dress wasn't in any way scandalous. My mother says to me are you going out like that? I am like yes and she went on a mini rant about it and I was like mum i am not changing. I am ok with my outfit and my husband loves it as well so are we going or not.
I made her understand this was my home and she can't come here telling me what or how she thinks I should dress and not at 43. And she got that and never crossed the line again.Even my mother in law when I was getting married and she went on and on about something and I was trying to be diplomatic. Finally I put my foot down and said to her I am not going down this road with you, this is what we are doing and we are not changing it. The call was on speakerphone and when I finished my husband said to me good job cos I know my mum she can wear you down and finally you give in just to shut her up.
You don't have to curse them out but you redirect them when they cross boundaries. No one is going to come to my house and insult my man and I will be smiling with you.
chika ofoegbu Period. There is nothing with being an assertive woman. If you’re being assertive AND respectful, and someone has a problem with that, they’re the problem. Parent or not.
Y’all are really going to ignore the fact that Kenya said “ I don’t know where porsha was at the time” was clearly SHADY! if you look at the texts Shamea water didn’t break so why would Porsha need to be there! She made it seem like something it wasn’t! That statement was not needed!
I’m a Kenya fan but I know when she’s being shady and can admit when she’s wrong.
She said that to acknowledge that porshas shame as BESTFRIEND
@@jasonbradford4176 i dont see how people dont get that. To me it was more of an acknowledgment, because if Kenya wasnt going to acknowledge Porsha people would have been saying oh now Kenya thinks she's Shameas bff and Porsha isnt
Even if your opinion was true she still made the texts bigger than it was
Buyenyo Oluak thank you! I’m team Nene but can admit when she is wrong in a situation.
Kenya knew exactly what she was doing when she walked over to stand behind Nene...
WORD... these Kenya fans are killing me
And she should've got popped👊🏾
Does that give nene the okay to act like a bison ready to charge?? They're old ladies not animals.. Since when Kenya tries to physically attack anyone?? Nene a fool to take that bait..
Aranielle Benny no it doesn’t give her the right but if the situation was switched and nene walked up Kenya stans would be singing a different tune. Kenya was all in Porshas face in Anguilla and she also threatened to beat up Phaedra when she was pregnant. The amnesia whew
@@brittanydoss1799 let's not forget when she physically tried to remove kim fields from her seat
Marlo accuses Kenya of acting but she started that whole thing and then acted surprised that they were arguing. 🙄
Callan 97 kenya said txt not call get it right
Cynthia girl 🤦🏾♀️ you don’t hold Kenya to the standard you hold everyone else to
Chyanna M. Kenya must be holding some secrets, chile...
So true, that's hypocrisy
So true
@Chyanna M, your point? That's how she deals w/ it
Chyanna M. Cause Those others women don’t go to the press or on their CZcams and drag Cynthia or say negative things about her
When is Kandi gonna put Mamma Joyce in her place respectfully? Tod is over that shit clearly.
Kandi makes a lot excuses for Mama Joyce. Kandi need to put Mama Joyce in her place respectfully.
Amen.
Kandi is part of the problem! If she can’t stick up for the right and make excuses for the wrong then even if ur not the one who did the wrong u r still equally at fault and causing destruction!
Kenya did not say Shamea called her, she very specifically says Shamea TEXTED her!! Stop it Porsha!😫😫😫
Exactly
Niema Knox, she wrote on Twitter that Shamea called her.
I think shamea is simply a clout chaser honestly when porsha and kandi were going through their issues shamea continued to be around kandi and there was distance between she and porsha and now suddenly shes cool with kenya as well smh im not saying to disassociate yourself with ppl that your friend has an issue with but at the same time its kind of a matter of where does your loyalty lie especially when she and porsha were friends outside of the show first compared to her friendship with kandi where she met her through the show bcuz of porsha.porsha needs to check shamea honestly
Say it for the people in the back
on Twitter she said she called her🤔 which one is it?
So was Nene screaming alone, since Kenya says no class. Kandi's just laughs then tell the truth
Right.
Exactly she scared of Ken 🤔 ALLIANCE
Nene got a commercial that states she has no sense of fashion and she's a bully...that's how people perceive her..bloop all for the love of money
Absolutely!!💫
Porsha is starting to irritate me! Who said Kenya called anyone??? If you're going to repeat information repeat it correctly!
Kenya said Shamea texted her. It's so funny how Porsha doesn't want ppl to think she isn't there for Shamea, yet, during the lunch with Phaedra & Sherée 👀
Kenya said Shamea texted her when her water broke. That was the lie. 🤷🏽♀️
Kenya is a liar. She's always lying snf and trying to make people look bad
Porsha is fake
Kenya said "you texted me and said 'I THINK my water broke' and it was sooo early on. "
Come on guys you have the proof right here. Porsha just wanted to be upset and misheard and misunderstood what Kenya was even saying.
Nene: "As an African American community, when there's an exchange, you don't get in somebody's space."
Remember the Nene vs. Dwight incident?
Ol news Dwight was so 10 seasons back
Jason Qiu “don’t get in their personal space” she literally was in Kenya face at the bowling alley.
Also...star jones, kandi, Kim, and kenya have all had to physically move away from the overbearing close talking neigh neigh.
@@Microphonecheckher Kenya gets in people's personal space too lets not forget season 9 when Porsha walked out the restaurant and Kenya was in her face saying "Is this your trigger am I triggering you?" Let's also not forget the Kim Fields incident. There are plenty more examples of her getting in others space.
What she meant don’t get in their personal space if you ain’t about that life
Right
Kenya never said Shemea called her first!!! Everybody assumed that. SMH
Right
They are going to say that because they need a reason to make Kenya out to be the liar when they have consistantly lied on Kenya
She implied it by saying ‘Porsha, i dont know where you were, maybe working or something’ she didn’t need to add the extra spice.
In sharing a moment where two women were supporting each other through a very special time in their lives, Kenya was adding how she supported Shamea in calling and being there. Opening lines of communication and support.
In what based only on what Kenya said and Shamea's reaction was a false alarm, a third party took offense-Portia.
Did Kenya add sauce- Yes.
Was this more so that Portia was in her feelings- ABSOLUTELY!!!!
@Marisol white Shamia said she texted Kenya tho. You are reaching give it up
Kenya has an answer/excuse for everything
well don’t you think when she is being asked about a certain situation it’s appropriate to give a response defending yourself🤨
@@lolayoung2155 Lolz right? I would hope she has an answer.. like what?
She’s a crafty heifer
she's worse than a damn politician with her lies, half truths & flimsy excuses. She tried that shit on Celebrity Apprentice too, but it didn't save her in that competition.
Kenya is a black belt shader and manipulator but she can't be that way with Mark she met her match when it came him
Kandi was not annoyed with the girls...
Kandi was mad at her husband..
Kenya is not innocent. She walked over there to provoke Nene. And I’m neutral. I know what I saw.
why did marlo provoke her? she was not checking for Nene but the nenenites wanted drama and got it
In all fairness they're grown and NeNe is a grandmother, she should have enough self control to keep her hands to herself. Walking by her shouldn't matter. She got up talking about someone hitting her. Smh
@@ajollypanda4175 if Marlo provoked her , why wasn't Kenya beef with Marlo? Lol she didn't provoke her.
Tiffany Drake it does matter because regardless if u have grand kids or not. Principles remain the same. You cannot walk up to someone from behind 3 seconds after arguing with them? You become a threat at that point
Dr. C. Dorsey exactly 💯
TODD can do whatever he feels... Sick of Mama Joyce disrespecting this man
"You're the low class blonde in a wig"
"You're never what I want" 😂😂😂🌪💗
Taunna Tee Kenya mouth is like machine gun! Lol , she my favorite!!
I love her comebacks LOL
I love Kenya
😂😂😂
Does Kenya hear herself?
She actually said you can't disrespect someone's mother! 🤔
Kandi disrespects her husband constantly in favor of her rude and obnoxious mother. Run Todd.
Todd will not run anywhere. He's investing in different things using her money. He'll only ran after the bag is very secure. 💰💰😏
It’s not everyday run lol
Todd will get the last laugh. He deserves every blessing he receives.🥂
@@czarinaczar yes yes yes, once he has a nest egg that's all his or he can sue for, Chile he out.
Todd is fed up with her mom, that’s probably going to be one of the reasons they won’t make it
S Thomas I’m sure if they went to marriage counseling. The therapist would say the same thing
Sad but true
Kandi's mother needs medication.
I hope not
Porsha is putting 20 on 10. Girl bye she didn’t try to make you look bad she ain’t said anything about you this season.
DawnofA let’s be real Kenya DEF did. Kenya knows exactly what she’s doing, then tries to play clueless. Like cmon why announce that at Porsha’s event, then add “idk where Porsha was maybe working...” that’s shade. Why even add that? AT HER EVENT? If the tables were turned Kenya would make a big deal about it
She made it seem as if she was at the birth and porsha was not, which how can that happen if your texting the day after. Who does that and in front a group of people
@@ayannabrown6643 How much you want to bet that it comes out Kenya was telling the truth about Shamea reaching out to her that day? Say what you want but Kenya always ends up being proven right eventually...just like when Apollo was lying on her all that time.
The RyGuy Ryan well porsha said she read the message and it was the day after so until proven wrong we’re going off what we know not what it could be
The RyGuy Ryan that’s NOT the point. The point is Kenya throws rocks and hide her hands. Of ALL places to say something like that? Why at Porshas event? Kenya is not dumb. She knows what she’s doing. This isn’t the first time she’s offended someone with words then pretends she’s innocent.
Kenya must not realize when she's unhappy in her life she subliminally attacks others.
What kind of mother is mama joyce??
She need to stay out of her daughter's business with her husband.
A bitter jealous one
The sad part about Mama Joyce is there is a lot of black woman like her.
@@sodeep8051 ALOT... The Braxton's mother, Eva's mother, Kandi's mother, Kenya's mother etc..
Somebody needs to sit down with Kandi and tell her she need to stop letting her mother disrespect her man. She is a grown woman, and so is a mother. There is nothing wrong with demanding respect for you and the person *that gave you a baby.*
So basically.. Kenya, Porsha, and Shemia are talking about different times of communication. It's just sad that it wasn't able to be made clear before it turned into a whole thing, YET AGAIN.
Right because she said text and bought her receipts. Porsha ratchet azz judt made some ish up bcuz she feeling guilty
@@dnicety3964 I honestly feel like Porsha just doesn't like Kenya but since she didn't have a real issue with her, she does shit to try to make Kenya look bad.
Kenya didn’t need to throw in “i don’t know where you were Porsha?” That’s what made it feel like shade. She knows Shemea and Porsha are besties so why would you even tell that story then point out the girls best friend was not called or informed first when her water broke? It seemed like she was purposely stirring the pot. Even if you were the first one she called WHY announce that in a group with Porsha there? How did you think she’d feel? Kenya has a history of starting shit so it’s not far fetched that Porsha and Shamea felt salty with her delivery of that story.
Sicilia Italia Kenya was there for both ladies during their pregnancy and off camera
Porsha fake azz just need a storyline because Denis dogging her out isn't working
That look on Kandi's face, when Kenya's lying about Marc wanting to be with her, is PRICELESS!!!
Kandi, you forget Todd has feelings too..He keeps giving your mom passes when is he gonna get some respect...Quit telling him stuff she says about him...Your mom need to stop.
And its messed up cause his mama passed a few years back so he dont have anyone to have his back.
@@desimoe2506 exactly, she supposed to be a mother figure for him..that's what a mother-n-law is...she be on some real new stuff..
The nerve of Joyce. She is outlandish IDC who’s mother she is. She’s out of line. PeriodT
I feel like Tanya pretends to be nice. I don't know why I can't shake that feeling. She is sneakily very shady
mz goochy morning oh my goodness!! I feel the same way about her.
Yes i believe she is she seems very fake she seems off all the time
I have just found her happy nice persona fake, since she arrived on RHOA. It just seems too much to me. She's messy but people don't see it because it's nice, happy Tanya.
same
THANK YOUUUUUUU! I dont care how bubbly and happy she APPEARS TO BE i think she is shady with a capital S
Kenya you continued the argument! About no class, come again.
Mama Joyce is one of those old heads who gets mad when you don’t let them disrespect you. Todd is a man and he should not be obligated to tolerate her bs. It’s old now
I really need Kandi to understand that she's married. Todd is her husband and her mother needs to respect their relationship and stop taking jabs at him. I wonder if Kandi knows that everytime she excuses her mother's negativity and bad behavior towards her husband she's stabbing him in his heart. Men have feelings and Joyce and Todd's relationship didn't get off to a good start. She needs to choose her new family and find her mother a man before Todd gets fed up with the situation and leaves.
If mama hag is this way with todd , do you really think another man is gonna wanna voluntarily be around her ?? And 24/7 too ??
@@sexyma12345678910 Gal! Lmao! Not the hag Jesus!😆😆😆😆😆😂😂😂
Kandi is married to her Mom
I mean it's her mother. But hey what can you say. She's on TV
That's her mother. Idk. Idk.
I agree.
Nene's a grandmother- 50+ years old talking about fighting? Low class at its finest.
Kandi exposing her true colors right in front of the camera🤦🏾♀️🗣 I’m over her old crunchy momma! If anyone USING Kandi, it’s MAMA JOYCE💯💯
Not crunchy 😱😂
Kandi, your moms been emasculating Todd every since you and him got married. What mom misses their grandchild shower. Question why your mom didn’t speak to Todd. If your mom had a teaspoon of respect for Todd him not speaking to her wouldn’t have mattered. Bye girl.
Abra Patterson I wish Todd’s mom was still alive because she wouldn’t let MaMa Joyce attempt it; she checked her before & told Kandi she will put hands on her MaMa
Amen, Kandi mother doesn't respect Kandi @all. she should have listened to her father.
Kandi's mom has been vile towards Todd from day 1, Kandi lets her get away with too much and considering her mom is supported by Kandi she shouldn't be saying one word about anyone else using Kandi for her money. I've always thought that the reason she's so against Todd is that she's afraid he will talk Kandi into cutting her off financially.
Lord Walker I agree with you but she can’t and will not cut her mother off. It’s just not what we do in the south.
I've known many people like that, always scared their paycheck is going to be threatened. At their core they understand they don't deserve the money, but their ego and greed is way too strong to let it go. Add a narcissistic parent complex and you've got.... whatever is happening here. Very sad
That will never happen.
Khandi will never turn her back on momma Joyce and Todd knows it.
Boom! That part!
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My favorite part of this multiple different conversation topics is 2. Hearing from Kenya Moore that her and Shamea and Porsha supported each other.
1. Hearing about how many children Eva and her husband want to have. Having 5 kids is awesome amount. I love that she is being honest and willing to adopt any child that needs a true loving home with amazing ❤️ parents. That is my favorite topic and favorite conversation they had on her on the RHOA after show. I love it Cythina and Eva.
Cynthia and Kandi make me sick they walk on eggshells with Kenya
You mean like Porsha and Marlo do with NeNe
@@naomilotts4076 Marlo checks NeNe
Yes as well as Andy and the rest of the producers cause Kenya do whatever she want!!!
The way Kenya read that blog all nonchalantly 😂
Kushie54321 I laughed soo hard
Loveeee her !
That's my girl yhssss
That was funny but why can’t she be like that with Mark🤔🤣🤣🤣
Adrienne Grant she’s not married to any of these women 😂 what???
Porsha isn’t Shameas real friend. Remember how she dogged Shamea for Phaedra?! Shamea is a fool.
Queen A girl then she didn’t go to her wedding
simplyshaquana exactly. She was dead wrong for not attending her wedding. It was pure jealousy.
You have to remember They arent tv friends. They are basically sister and they’ve grown up together they are extremely close
a thirsty fool
& how Shamea was team kandi when Porsha wasn’t? They’ve both moved on.. relax
Kenya “Porsha has ntn to do with it”
Also Kenya “i was walking her through it. I don’t know where Porsha was”
Kenya is a conglomerate of issues yet fully explained 🤷🏾♀️
Guys I've been rewatching RHOA in quarantine and in season 2 Mama Joyce was behaving just like she is now. The only difference is Kandi was engaged to AJ. The very way she's treating Todd is the same way she treated AJ. AJ is dead and gone and may he rest in peace but mama Joyce with all due respect still don't know how to act. I believe we should love and respect our parents but at some point we have to teach them how to treat us. Kandi needs to draw the line and teach her mother where the boundaries are as it pertains to her husband, the father of her children, her business partner and life partner. And mama Joyce, bless her heart, needs to have several seats and learn how to act. 😑
Beverly Davenport i “love” how dysfunctional and abusive all of that is and it is actually considered and labeled “love”. certain traditional family values brought up on rhoa is boderline abusive and i, as a foreigner viewer, always wonder how much of that is actually ingrained in the culture. i would recommend all of these women read bell hooks’ “all about love”
Wow you have all seasons? How do I get them? Please share
@@thusosithole5712 You can find them online. A quick Google search should turn up a few different sites where you can watch them. 😊
@@thusosithole5712 search for one called 123movies ... i don't know if they have the earlier seasons but i found it when i was bingeing season 4, so from that one on i know it has
@@lucasolivdantas Thanks
Kandi doesn’t pick up for her husband smh
You mean stand up
Porsha wants to act like she’s such a great friend to Shamea but she gave a BS excuse for not wanting to travel to her wedding (she’s traveled out of the country plenty of times before and after that) then was on mute when Phaedra said she was heauxing all over Atlanta.
Dont forget she intentionally spread rumors about her having threesomes with Kandi while Shamea was engaged...
Can anyone explain why at such a nice event it was okay for Kenya to bring up the fact that she was there for Shamea and Specifically say " I dont know where Porsha was " If you were there for her just say that
Deloris Brown EXACTLY! Kenya knows exactly what she was doing. Why say that AT PORSHAS EVENT! Kenya does stuff, then acts clueless I’m over it... and can we get rid of Cynthia and “chill”
Say it for the ones in the back 💯
@@DBrown-vg1fi She brought they up cause they were talking about their pregnancies.
Khandi needs to be careful. She keeps letting her mom disrespect Todd and turns a blind eye to the way her mom treats him. He has so much patience. Respect goes both ways. You can’t keep treating someone like that and then expect them to just show you love like nothing happened when they see you.
I’m so sick of Joyce. I really wish they would phase that whole storyline out. It’s old and it’s tired. 🙄
Jeremy Brown she’s a tw..
Yes Lawd! I hate the day that they introduced her into the show. She's checking for Kandi's checks, more than Kandi.
Jeremy Brown God yessss
Eva’s storyline is shading the other ladies, and forgetting....ohhhh and being pregnant
Kenya, you cannot keep claiming that you are the victim all the time, you did provoke her. I bet she won't try that Porsha
Porsha didn’t even go to shamea’s wedding because she wasn’t in first class and she took Phaedra’s side over shamea during their fight.... but now we’re supposed to believe they are best friends 😂😂😂😂😂
Kandi knowssss she doesn’t agree with Kenya right there
Exactly! Kandi looks like a puppet, she's got mouth to come for other people but mute with Kenya
Kandi usually disagrees with Kenya ..we can see on her face
But..Kandi dont want no drama from Kenya...she dont wanna argue with Kenya...she has more important things to do..
Kenya is toxic and she uses up so much of her energy being mean..
She won't say anything though..
Kandi knows Kenya a hot mess
Yes I noticed that alot,but she just sits there nd says nothing,what's that all about
Damn y'all imagine if Kenya wasn't on this season, who would have a story line?
Agreed 100%
She wasn't on last season and it was just fine
gelaben26 i know you lying. Last season was boring that everyone was talking about potomac, jersey, Beverly hills, etc.
It would have been a much better season
gelaben26 It was just fine. 💯
Nene has tried to be cool with Kenya in the beginning until she felt Kenya was being over the top everytime she gets mad it’s too much.
I wish Andy would revamp this show. It needs a lot of changes.
Why did you bring up the fact that Porsha wasn't there Kenya?
Rudiann Wildgoose-Laing she didn’t imply she wasn’t there because she didn’t want to be. She said she was working. Porsha made it into something it wasn’t.
Rudiann Wildgoose-Laing right.
There was no point in saying that. Say what you gotta say to Shamea and move on.
Right. Even if it was the case that she called Kenya, it was unnecessary for her to bring up Porsha at all.
Y’all know Porsha don’t like nobody else being friends with Shema. She got into it with Kandi. Kenya was on good terms with Porsha so I’m sure Porsha made it bigger than it was.
Does Kenya not realize she was part of the problem at Kandi’s shower? She never takes accountability. Please get her off the show!
How? If anything Marlo the one who started it
Exactly yet she felt the need to mention the confrontation was class less. Hello are you calling yourself class less.🤦♀️
most narcissists don't, they are always innocent
Junior Orellana yes they all were clowning. Kenya is the one doing the interview though. She’s calling them classless when SHE WAS INVOLVED TOO! Like I said, she never takes ownership of her part.
Please do she must leave sick of her i prefer Nene than her
Porsha stop lying. Kenya never said she called Shamea or was the first Shamea called when her water broke. Stop lying through your bad foundation. 🙄
Czarina Czar SHAMEA said that Kenya was lying Porsha is just repeating what was told to her. Kenya was being messy as usual
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 not the foundation.
Porsha needs a new makeup artist - this one hates her.
@@kikimads7328 no Shamea and Porsha were being messy. It was such a nothing burger that Porsha's makeup artist decided to put the wrong foundation on her face.
Kenya is so full of it... you walked over and stood right next to Nene on purpose.
Ty Davis let ask Starr Jones about that
Good grief! If my mother treated my husband like Mama JOYCE treated Todd......there is not a snowballs chance in hell that he would ever talk to the woman. And if I was offended because he didn’t kiss her behind....I mean, he would just laugh at me. Kandi needs to be little more “Team Todd”.
Are you pleaseing Todd or your mother. I'm so sick of mother's mostly from the south. are so dam controlling. because you weren't able to kept or stay with your husband.kandi you have enough sense to come a millionaire. so for me . Your mother doesn't think so.. Kandi baby you need to trust in God and remember your vows.,
@@still-ga7570 Todd has been trying to please Kandi 's mother for 6 years
@@livewell-xt5xr she will end up lonely and then her mum will move In with her.
@@mandufagbemi2131 I hope not, Todd loves her and her mother needs to be put in her damn place for real
Bonnie L Ewert she doesn’t respect him herself. So she has no issue with her mom disrespecting him.
there was never a question about a call, the flashback showed Kenya saying: I remember you TEXTED ME
Bix BDB Exactly!
Is not about call or text she chase is seem as if she was at the birth and porsha was not, which how can that happen if your texting the day after
The insists on looking for a fight
It doesn't matter if it was a text or a call tho..both are communication tools....therefore, Kenya was trying to make it seem like Shamea COMMUNICATED with her first and not her best friend Porsha!
@@ayannabrown6643 she never said she was there. Porsha made that up
Kenya! Try again. You went over there to Nene to try to push up! The cameras show everything. Nene ignore Kenya
I just saw where someone commenting, said that someone they know works for production. They told Kenya they weren't renewing her contract, but she could come on a visitor. She said she wanted to play on the entire season, and they told her she lied about being married to Mark and about the marriage license, as well as where she supposedly gotten married. They told her that she lied last season as well, and they know she lied. Kenya responded, either l come on full term or nothing; With that being said, BRAVO told her not to come on at all, if not as a visitor with another pay decrease. How fabulous is that?
@@TheShortee44 You a damn lie she was the damn show without her this season it would've flopped!!!!!
They really exaggerated on this Shamea incident. I didn't see any shade from Kenya here, it was just her trying to be excited to be part of the incident... yeah she shouldn't have interrupted Shamea's story but Porsha took it too far.
Thank u, i didnt think kenya was being shady either. I think porsha is trying to dislike kenya to please nene
She made it seem as if she was at the birth and porsha was not, which how can that happen if your texting the day after. Who does that and in front a group of people
No there was no shade. She just completely lied and said Shamea texted and told her her water broke.
Kenya was definitely being shady. Shamea was speaking of the time her water actually broke and Kenya interrupts with a completely different conversation when Shamea thought her water broke, which made it seem like Shamea texted Kenya when her water broke. And then to bring up Porsha wasn’t there was so unnecessary. If Kenya would have just let Shamea have her moment, we wouldn’t be having this discussion. But in true Kenya fashion, she has to insert herself and cause drama.... she knows how to play the game for reality tv🤣
univae kitty cat She didn’t lie. Screenshots were posted.
Yes, you can. You can not disrespect people and think they want to even say Hello.
right, imagine phaedra walking into the same spot after having an argument - i doubt kandi would say hi to her.......
At the end of the day Kenya has a bad habit of getting into people’s personal space while they are in a argument!! That is provoking! She always does that
Girl what show are you watching?
Vanessa Cs She has done it to Porsha, Kim Fields, and Nene...
Girl they all did it,not just Kenya. Kenya can save a cat from a burning tree and yall will still find a reason to call her evil.
Kenyaaa!!! “I was just walking over to shamea who was standing.. near Nene” she was right next to Nene and u had nothing to say to her u went to talk to her specifically to provoke Nene.. Do u really think people can’t tell ur so full of it every time u talk in that soft voice🤣delusional!!
Still it is not Kenya's fault as only wants to talk to Shamea. Nene started the shit.
Angel O. Nope 💩
@@GhanianNana babe you can see Kenya was trying to talk to Shamea and theres nothing wrong going to her coz obviosuly she wants to talk to Shamea. Nene was very defensive and started the shit.
"Kenya was saying that she was the first person that Shamea's called once her water broke"
No, Porsha. She didn't say that at all. She simply said that Shamea texted her. Your name shouldn't have been brought up, but don't put words in Kenya's mouth.
She's reaching
Kalilia Zehudit - Porsha spoke PER WHAT SHAMEA told her. If you must know, Shamea said Kenya was lying about some details!
No, she simply interrupted Shamea and was speaking of a completely different moment but tried to make it seem like Shamea contacted her when her water broke because Porsha wasn’t around. Kenya is shady af
Adrienne Grant exactly
I wish the women would go back to having fun and being kind to each other. This season was tired and bitter
Well Marlo provoked the whole thing...and Nee nee knew she was gonna do it
PERIOD!
True
Marlo was a bone collector at that time. But kandi been the bone collector all season tho
Thank You!!!!
Period
Cynthia bouta get the axe. She has no story line. Andy had no questions for her . She’s becoming to be a place filler. I think Cynthia would be more entertaining as a friend to the show. I love her tho.
Kenya approaching and only looking, talking to shamea.
Nene : gettin close To kenya "don't touch me now"
Nene: "kenya provoked me"
😂😂😂
cami932 exactly! But somehow they say nene was provoked. Kenya presence bothers nene and she’s bothered that she can’t admit it
cami932 😂 right. Nene is the one who put her dirty hands in Kenya’s face, yet all the nene fans are trying re-write history.
Exactly she was looking for a reason to jump in Kenyas face. Nene loves to start with Kenya because she didn't have anything else going on.
✋Kenya knew what she was doing. All she does is stir things up and play like she has been victimized somehow. Kenya knows “what” provokes people, which is the part being ignored. If the word “potato” provokes you, to someone else it may not upset them. But Kenya will be sure to throw it out in an argument to provoke “you”. Then try to look innocent. To you, you can say all she did was get up and walk over and stand within inches of Nene is no big deal, because that may not bother “you”. But m we all know, including Kenya, that Nene does not want Kenya anywhere in her personal space. Kenya is a troll lol. And yes, Kenya was trying to provoke. It is what it is 👍
@@kendra2122 nene is provoked by anything kenya will do unlike the other member of the group so nene is the problem.
Kenya has always had a problem with provoking people then crying to everyone that she's the victim! Accountability is something most of these women need to work on
BeepBeep Kenya intimidation’ provokes people. She physically never touched ANYONE . Her presence whether it’s annoying or whatever gets ppl riled up. You have to have power to make ppl mad
Nene is crazy. How could she say she did NOT imply that she was going to spit on Kenya
You were missing her point .. she said she wasn’t trying to spit on Kenya, she intentionally held back, and that if she wanted to spit on her she would have. It’s not like she spit and missed
@@delusionsofgrandeur1330 thank you... I don't understand why people see the manipulativ and psychopath Kenya as a victim🤦🤦🤦 what are people drinking this days??
When people want to spit they spit. Nada came out of Nene’s mouth.. she had control of her actions.. if she wanted to spit on her she would have. It’s just like putting up your had like your going to slap 👋 someone but pull your hand back.
cc o so if I try to spit on you it’s ok? If nothing came out? Is it ok that I throw stuff at you if I miss?
the donut lady it absolutely is okay if you’re gonna keep pushing someone to that point. Kenya was ASKING for more than just a spit. She’s lucky she didn’t get worse.
Kenya everyone seems to want some of your time. These producers should be paying Kenya that 1.85million
Mel Bo She’s the one latching herself into people - even to Shamea! 🤦🏾♀️
I wouldn’t mind if Ken didn’t comeback nxt season 🤷🏽♀️
Kandi said Moma Joyce & Todd got along after Ace was born too. Let’s see how long this lasts.
Kenya speaking on Todd disrespecting kandi mom bihh you can't even meet Marc Mom or family 😂😂😂bye Ken
🤣🤣💯💯💯💯💯
Suddenly T Right!!! She can’t even speak in the situation! Lol
and her biological mother. disrespected her and denied her. and she have the nerve to speak on Todd. Kandi have with strong minded women. that does nothing for her.. these are the women that needs her in their lives.
When she was on WWHL last week she said she has met his parents. They were at her baby shower. She doesn't speak to them because Marc doesn't get along with them and didn't want her to talk to them.
She has met his mother. You think you're saying something smart when you don't even know what you're talking about SMH
I’m sorry but if we got beef and you walk up behind me I’m going to be defensive
Tima T exactly
@@brewhite7727 exactly, nothing. That's why idiots like you get shot by police.
Right don’t walk up on me at all ...
Tima T Same. I’m surprised Nene didn’t jump up faster.
Period
Marlo provokes Nene, not Kenya. Clearly Nene shouldn’t drink, if she gets crazy when she drinks and can’t remember what happened. Nene is clearly deeply bothered by Kenya being present. But hating Kenya IS Nene’s storyline this season, right?
No Kenya provoked nene the way she provokes everyone else
Nene baffles when she speaks about fighting someone and your the bully who doesn't fight but just makes a scene and jump in someone's face to make it seem as if you are going to do something and your not. She all bark and no bite. All she has ever done is tug on Kim's wig. But she know who to try it with.
Sheree tugged on Kim's wig... Nene choked her lol I used to love this show. It's becoming the petty housewives of Atlanta