When Voyager first emerged in the Alpha quadrant after being gone so long. The computers all had messages that there were thousands of updates that needed to be downloaded and installed.
well Chakotay is at the helm so assuming that was literial, he got to see the burnt wastelands of the Maquis colonies after the Jem'Hadar were done with them. Oh you wanted a happy ending...
Eh... tbh, I don't think so. The silence of space with Earth just a few minutes away was perfect. They had 7 years of battles and explosions and anarchy. It ended with a calm reunion and a shocked crew that actually made it. To me, the series was about them being trapped in the delta quadrant. Once they were home, the series is over. A celebration wouldn't have added to the story. However, they did give us a taste of what that celebration looked like at the start. Even though history was changed, I'm sure it was still pretty similar.
@@WiGgYof09 personally I'd would of loved to have seen a rescue from the alpha to delta quadrant voyager 2 , a fleet of ships in a battle with borge, or specise 152 . A couple of weeks to get home . At least a 15 minutes of welcome home 7 of 9 seeing 🌎 🏡 🙂
@Billy's Vlogs Channel Billy Lyster Lyster Wouldn't she be like one quarter Klingon and 3 quarters human? Tom is human and B'elanna is only half Klingon so her children would only get like one quarter of the klingon genes.
A human child born during a space battle has to been as some kind of bad omen. (Kirks birth right after that shenanigan romulan mining vessel time travel). Lol. Hahaha
and even then, it still seems to be a woefully small number of ships given that Earth is the political and administrative capital of the Federation, not to mention 2 or 3 of the largest shipyards in the Federation are in the Sol System. Hundreds of worlds, presumably tens of thousands of ships, and 18 is what they got, which is 18 times more than they usually have.
Earth is the capital of the Federation... it seems like they'd have had more defenses all the times that "Enterprise is the only ship in range". Frankly though, I think having nearly 20 rounded up in the scene above was a vast improvement, and a good number to have available to defend the planet within minutes notice.
Their fleet was significantly larger at that point than throughout most of Star Trek, due to the build up of the Dominion War. That is probably why they had more ships near Earth, because they had more ships... meaning more ships that would be in dock between missions, and maybe more ships still assigned to the Sol System because of how beaten and battered they had been from the war. They'd want more ships around Earth, until they were certain the threat of the Dominion (and any species willing to take advantage of their post war condition) was entirely subsided.
The temporal prime directive says you aren't allowed to talk with people in the past about the future. She isn't violating the temporal prime directive personally by stating that her from an alternate future stopped by and upgraded the ship. Keep in mind the EMH makes full use of 29th century tech and Starfleet is aware of that. If her report violated the Temporal Prime Directive so would that.
I just noticed the final shot having a very subtle nod. An Excelsior Class, a Galaxy Class, a Defiant Class, a Nebula Class, and a four nacelled ship similar to the Stargazer, all falling into escort formation. This was the last we'd see of Star Trek for several years, and every available ship from each era was there at the end.
Star trek Enterprise started the same year as Voyager ended, so not really the "last" time, but surely one of the most emotional scenes trek has to offer.
"Oh and by the way, if any Borg have survived, they now have access to our technology and protocols from about 30 years in the future. Might be worth rethinking any of those projects."
Yeah, myself from the future gave me theses bad ass upgrades! Takes a look! They stopped us exploding when we blew up that Borg tactical sphere we were inside of when we came through the transwarp conduit that we just destroyed.
Can't really blame the writers for this. There is hardly any way you could reasonably make this happen other than "We found another care taker" (would be seen as lame) or create some tech that would rip into all parts of the story telling. "A wormhole from where we are to there..." would have permanent implications just for a forced story ending.
@@Redisia Could have done something else, though. When Kes left the ship, she flung Voyager forward a good distance. Sprinkle a few more things like that in over the course of the series, and you've got a decent pace to get home without needing to break anything.
The way the crew reacts is so great. They are in total shock, they don't quite believe that they actually made it. They aren't yelling and cheering, they are quietly reflective.
Agreed. It is a surreal experience type of thing. Recall also some may not necessarily be "happy" returning as they have nothing there for them. Earth is just a final destination stop.
Never noticed it before but when admiral Paris is talking to janeway he keeps glancing down at the screen to where Tom is with a proud smile on his face… nice little touch 😊
Admiral: "Get every ship in range" Officer: "But sir, the Enterprise isn't in range!" Admiral: "Damn! We will have to settle for whatever else is around Earth...."
ADMIRAL: "Damn guess we die" CREWMAN: "Sir 18 ships just entered range with another 9 on the way!" ADMIRAL: "A miracle! Why did we never send the enterprise away more often!"
so am I right in thinking that the older Admiral Janeway was responsible for getting the ship home many years earlier than otherwise would have happened?
@@helenahayes6150 Yes, she did. However, Admiral Janeway gets home in the timeline where First Contact never occurred. Because that film happened it caused two possible futures: either Voyager gets home in that moment, or the Borg launch a full invasion of the Federation with hundreds of ships, totally destroying them. It was a shifting time line because of the Borg attempting to stop Cochrane. It was why Q said in a far earlier episode that Starfleet in the Delta Quadrant was 100 years too early. He did not actually know why that shifted up. Their presence also caused a number of temporal interactions, like the Annorax. Time shifting between those two outcomes was why Voyager had such a massively rough time where she was at the point of being destroyed over those 7 years, or escaping an incident fully intact.
@@shauntempley9757 wow - you really know your stuff. I have watched every episode but hadnt taken that all in. Now I want to watch it again to verify everything you said. I watch it all on netflix. I fall asleep watching voyager each night - for some reason its just a nice way to fall asleep. Interestingly, I spent the day with my 25 year old married son the other day and he also said he falls asleep in front of voyager.
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If you were a superfan, maybe. The series had lost a lot of people before this, and Star Trek as a whole kinda did the Disney blunder during and after.
I just had a thought, that makes this so much better for me. The reason Janeway and crew are so abrupt when they come out of the sphere is this; They are just as shocked as everyone else. How many times have they thought they had found a quick way home, only to turn into some of the worst moments in their journey. The telepathic Pitcher plant, the Geodesic Fold, the temporal wormhole. They were all holding their breaths, waiting for it to be ripped out from under them. Janeway made it abrupt, because she wants feet on the ground, before _something_ screwed them over
Great observation!! I could really relate why they're like "Did this REALLY happen this time? Did we really just beat the Borg AND used their own technology and ship to get home????"
@@Annoyingbirds I have fought alongside her on stop and naomi wildman, seven, neelix, tuvok, the doc, Tom Paris, harry and echep. Daniel's too. Even spock.
Even after 20 years I still tear up at the end, they made it home. I always imagined that Janeway made a ship wide announcement. To all hands this is the captain at 18:00 hours we successfully emerged from the Borg sphere and we are being escorted by 15 federation starships. I made a promise to get this crew home it’s been a honour janeway out. Then a close up of earth space dock, as voyager gets closer several shuttles emerge. Once they dock on voyager the last scenes are of admiral Paris emerging greeting captain janeway. He then sees his son and seconds later he’s hugging him. With the last words being I’m so proud of you son
Me too man. First time I saw it I was like, Really tears? But now every time I see it I know there will be goose bumps and get emotional. Adore TNG but Voyager is my ST.
Hard to believe all the human crewmembers would be from Earth as well, since there are so many colony worlds spread far apart. Many of these would be generational colonies whereby they only had a distant relationship to Earth by then.
I love how Janeway was too overwhelmed to express her excitement and the crew were all struggling to not to show theirs- all afraid to jinx it I guess. Beautiful series.
I'm not a superstitious man by any means but I always believed that when you've witnessed setback after setback and when you're barely holding on with blooded broken fingers to a slippery surface you tend to try to not to jinx anything until you have success and glory firmly in your hand.. It would be wise...
@@HominidInterneticus I think maybe the writers/producers chose to leave it open-ended like this. Because you can't please all the viewers, you can choose to please none of them.
I know it's nearly a year later, and a book not TV series, but Christie Golden wrote two novels, "Homecoming" and "The Farther Shore" which is a followup to what happens after the crew reach earth.
@@QuintonKettleburgh The Bozeman is a tough old bird. She took on the Borg at the battle of 001 AND fought in the Dominion War as well. Pretty damn good for a ship that by that point is 90 years apparently out of date. Course part of that was probably the crew going "We spent 80 years in a Temporal Distortion. WE'RE NOT DYING TODAY!"
The temporal directive would require they remove and store the ablative armor generators and transphasic torpedoes, but tons of other goodies (Isokinetic cannons anyone?) would be making their way to the R&D geeks.
@@22steve5150 At the same time the borg got a chance to scan probe and test that tech.... They might have learned something, it might be a bad idea to leave it like that. Even if it could ofsett things.. Then again, the It just a few decades of very specific tech.
In a book, they explore this reality. Spoiler alert, only certain ships were outfitted with the Transphasic Torpedoes including the Enterprise-E and Riker’s new ship. Starfleet also developed new transwarp tech. The Borg’s response was that it shifted the way it views the Federation. It needs to be destroyed, not assimilated. “Resistance is futile, but welcome.”
"This is Captain Janeway to Starfleet Command, requesting docking permission" "Apologies captain, all docks are currently occupied" "What the hell? Did I not specifically say "keep a docking bay open for us?!" >:|
Well I guess that I'm a 46 years old sentimental man then. It's good to see that so many people still get such positive vibes from these magnificent episodes after all those years. ;-)
They showed the celebration of voyagers 18 year return on Admiral Janeways timeline in the beginning of the show. Had fireworks at the San Francisco Bay.
No kidding, not to mention all the tech Voyager has come across through the years. At one point voyager was "covered" in Borg Tech. The armor and Transphasic Torpedoes they came back with alone would give Starfleet a huge advantage.
Hopefully Star Trek Picard doesn't ignore this part of the franchise. The Federation should at least have Voyager's Ablative Hull Armor and Transphasic Torpedoes. Maybe in a select few vessels for extreme situations, slipstream drives on a lot of long range ships should also be present. Scientists and Engineers at starfleet should be experimenting with Transwarp tech and it's about time they begun exploring outside of The Milky Way.
They make "It's only a light-year from earth" sound so close, but in reality it's 500x the distance the Voyager 2 probe has travelled since leaving earth 45 years ago!
I really wish that they had given the show 1, maybe 2, more episodes. Just as a sort of epilogue to show how the crew was received back home, saw their families, etc.. It would have been a nice touch after seven seasons.
I get that sentiment but naw... that sort of stuff just sort of drags it out. Sometimes just giving us that sort of ending is enough, its up to us to figure out how our own interpretations of the characters continued onwards. I imagine chakotay and they other makee had quite the debriefing to go through very shortly after they arrived. I'd imagine that all of them would of gotten a full pardon after reading through everything they had done to help voyager get home. We already sort of know how 7 of 9 ended up with the picard series, still it would of been interesting to see how starfleet would of greeted her and the massive amount of vouching janeway would of had to of done on her behalf. Most interestingly I would of liked to of seen how the doctor fared. Him being basically the first truly sentient hologram (aside from Moriarty). I'm sure his debriefing at starfleet medical would of been really interesting. Tuvok going back home to his family I imagine is exactly as it you would think it would of played out though I darsay that tuvok might of picked up a couple of bad habits from neelix and shown just a small hint of emotion. Janeway herself giving a full debriefing, she probably had to answer a whole boat load of questions with all the close calls with the prime directive she had as well as the omega particle situation that she allowed her crew to help her with, not to mention the plethora of reports on hostile species they came across. God and the level of technology they brought back to the alpha quadrant.
@@solidicone- I agree with you - I imagine, too, that the Maqui get a full pardon, and some of them accept positions in Starfleet. I've watched this clip a bunch of times, but I wonder now that Janeway and crew is back 16 years earlier, what if Adm. Janeway doesn't depart to the Delta quadrant in the past? Is there a paradox here? I guess the Borg network got destroyed in the present, so even if Adm Janeway doesn't return in the future...?
@@solidicone I think it would've been great to see this episode go on for like an extra 15-30 mins and show what happened to the Voyager crew after they returned to earth. Maybe a flash forward to 5-10 years where they show what each crew member moved on to doing when they returned to the Alpha quadrant. The way they ended it was far too abrupt in comparison to how TNG and DS9 ended with their finales which gave the audience more of a chance to see what happened to their favorite characters and to say goodbye to them. With Voyager its we made it back, set a course for earth and roll end credits.
Anyway, a long lost ship after traveling 70,000 lightyears across the galaxy making an entrance amidst a fiery explosion of a Borg sphere right inside the Sol system was awesome and it truly deserved the 18 ship welcome party
Like when Grounds Keeper Willie went back home to Scotland. Mom: "I see you're back son." Willie: : "Aye." Mom: "...I don't believe you'll be leavin' soon?" Willie: "Aye.."
If you think about it, knowing everything we do about the Temporal Officers who control time and space, they cannot possibly allow this ending of Voyager to be 'canon.' Voyager comes home decades early, equipped with futuristic weaponry and led by a treasonous Future Janeway. If they allow this timeline to play out, it opens the door to "Well, why not just send technology back in time over and over, rapidly scaling up humanity's power to become unstoppable?" If they can allow Janeway to come home with a ship 5 centuries more advanced than anything else that exists, the temporal prime directive has no meaning.
@@Klokinator Indeed. For the sake of preserving the proper flow of history, Voyager's future-tech would have to have been classified and destroyed, and have all knowledge of what happened suppressed about as hard as Omega.
tigersebel it’s a shame they didn’t include the Enterprise-E or at least a Sovereign Class, then it’ll come full circle on all of the iconic ship class of the TNG series.
I honestly cry when I watch the season finale, especially this scene. Voyager is the one star trek that deeply resonates with me, especially the characters and the actors.
I always bought this was a well thought through 2 hour finale. Janeway’s ignoring the Temporal Prime Directive goes right back to her suggestion in regards to ignoring it. Having Tom and B’elana Paris’ child delivered in the heat of the battle is classic Trek.
One of my all-time favorite scenes in any show! I LOVED how Voyager came "sliding into home" amidst explosions. I periodically re-watch Voyager and when I get to this scene, I usually rewind and watch it again.
LOL...shoulda perhaps, but didn't. That's why the "sliding into home" feeling I got. Go ahead. Keep trying to ruin it for me. You are just wasting your time.
@Leo Peridot LOL - I STILL Love Voyager! To be fair, you should know that I am a long time Trekkie and in spite of any plot holes or other inconsistencies, I find the essential truths of Trek to be personally sustaining. Live long and prosper.
@Leo Peridot Interesting. While I totally agree with you about JJ Abrams movies and Discovery, I still love everything up to (and yes including but not quite as much) Enterprise. I guess I have not yet grown out of it, but I'm still young at only 60.
The part at 2:10 where Janeway says "....We did it.". She's in disbelief that after seven long years, she finally got her crew home, like she promsed. I think as nuanced as it is, it's one of the most emotional scenes of the show.
The emotion was real all the actors were so upset that this was the end they were a family on screen and off BEST STAR TREK TO EVER EXIST NO ONE CAN CHANGE MY MIND
You're absolutely CORRECT! To end the series like this was like a slap in the face of the fans. One more season (even a short one) would've sufficed to see their transitions back to life in the alpha quardrant. Did Harry finally get promoted to AT LEAST Lt Cmdr (on his way towards the Captaincy) and get reassigned to another starship? Did Chakotay marry 7 and settle on Earth and teach at Starfleet academy? Was Janeway promoted to Admiral right away? What happened to Voyager? Was it decommissioned and turned into a museum (like future Admiral Janeway stated) overlooking the Presidio in San Francisco? Did Belana and Tom settle down on Earth and possibly have more children? Did the Doctor go on to write any books and invent magnificent medical breakthroughs? Did Tuvok get that reunion with his wife and kids and get cured from his illness? How did Admiral Paris feel about having a (mostly human) but part grand daughter of Klingon heritage? WHY DID THEY END IT LIKE THIS??
@@ascherlafayette8572 Ralph W Emerson. Yes, yes...it's all about the JOURNEY. Well, it wouldn't hurt to see how they're doing. That's part of life as well.
Episodes about their life post-Voyager would have been anticlimactic, but I think the stories could be told through still images; Kim with his family, proudly sporting a new pip on his uniform. The Paris family with the baby. The Doctor being presented with an award at Starfleet Medical. Etc.
For 36 years, the Enterprise was ALWAYS "the only ship in range" to combat some threat. Here there's 18 ships, with 9 more on the way nearly instantly. It's just funny irony. I really wish there had been a followup ep or two, so we could see the crew being home. I am particularly interested in seeing how Seven reacted to being in the Alpha Quadrant.
Deadpool that's cause this transwarp conduit was only a lightyear away from Earth. It makes sense that there would be more ships to defend the seat of the Federation. Plus the Enterprise was mostly on deep space mission which would mean it would mostly be the only ship in the region.
Deadpool You might like a couple of books written by Christie Golden; Homecoming and The Farther Shore. Homecoming begins at exactly the same moment the TV series ends. All characters are mentioned and they all have a role on Earth. I would have preferred a movie or like you said "a followup ep or two", but these books really do a decent job in explaining what happened to the Voyager crew on Earth.
Deadpool If you're referring to the Galaxy class ship being the ENTERPRISE-D you're actually mistaken. The events of this series ender take place several years after the end of TNG, and after the events of the movie STAR TREK: GENERATIONS. In that movie the ENTERPRISE-D was destroyed in a spectacular crash. The destruction of the ENTERPRISE-D is the main reason why Worf was assigned to DEEP SPACE NINE during the Dominion War. Based on the time line of the series, and movies before VOYAGERS series finale at the time on VOYAGERS return in this episode the ENTERPRISE-E Sovereign class was commissioned, and already an important part of Star Fleet.
I'd have loved to see the looks on all the engineer's faces after seeing all the modifications, but Delta Quadrant originated, and Admiral Janeway's modifications.
Sokolniki homecoming follows through with this. Starfleet cannibalises the ship in a project called *full circle* i think it is to analyze all the modded tech.
I loved that moment between Admiral and Lieutenant Paris. A very subtle glance that said, "We'll hold off celebrating until we're alone." As a bonus, not only does the Admiral (and presumably Tom's Mother) get to see their son after 7 years, but they also get to meet their daughter-in-law and granddaughter.
One of the things that I do like about this ending is the symbolism it had: The death of Admiral Janeway, the Borg queen and the Borg sphere, symbolizes the end of an agonizing and hard journey for Voyager and its crew during the delta quadrant for return to home, and the birth of Tom and B'Elanna's baby on alpha quadrant, symbolizes the new hope of the successful return home. Seeing the Borg ship emerge from the transwarp hub, and be destroyed by the Voyager, is like symbolizing that the baby came out of her mother's womb unharmed by death. It´s like a metaphor of hope in the midst of life's most difficult situations, it´s like the beginning of a new life after having lost a lot, it´s a gift of joy in the midst of suffering, it´s the optimistic vision of the classic Star Trek, after all. I was also pleased to see the well-deserved respect that Voyager was given in the midst of the other Federation ships that escorted her at the end. I have to admit that I expected a much better ending, with scenes of each of the characters returning home, even showing the members of the Federation welcoming the entire Voyager crew without any discrimination (regardless of whether they are Maquis or a human Borg, so that the message of hope and reconciliation is not lost, which ultimately represents this end). Anyway, I really liked this show, no matter how many others hate it. SORRY FOR MY ENGLISH.
Well I would say one problem is that the Borg on the sphere disobeyed the Queen's orders, they were supposed to destroy Voyager in order to stop the future Janeway from causing the destruction of the transwarp hub and not capture it.
Speedj2 Perhaps 7 will become Datas new girlfriend. Being that Lt. Yarr is no longer around, 7 and Data could explore humanity together. If so; Data would have a good reason to laugh at all the biological guys. As the saying goes: "The early bird gets the worm". Data would do excellent with 7of9. Picard would just have to resort to "Q".
I've made a similar comment about this episode but i honestly can't say it enough.This ending of this series really hit home with me.This finale was and is a masterpiece and excellent in it's delivery.
I always hated how this episode just ended like it did. No welcome home celebration, no life after the delta quadrant scenes, no debriefing, just off to earth. A great series just seems like the end was cut short.
Kevin Smith. You get to see what happened when voyager returned home, in a Quentin Tarantino esque kind of way, Because the episode started out years after voyager returned home, and then captain janeway going back in time In the technologically advanced ship, with the technology she stole from the klingons: (Taking many years off the trip, and saving a lot of lives including 7of9s), and setting things straight, so voyager can return home safely!
Aaron Greenfield Right and I get all of that. However, and excuse me for being all nerdy and technical, but since Admiral Janeway helped captain Janeway get back sooner then the Admirals time line no longer exist, correct? All I'm saying is that it still would have IMO been nice to see some closure upon arriving home after all they've been through.
I feel sorry for Harry Kim. saves the ship mulitple times, loyal and respectful. 7+ years as an ensign, yet Tom Paris, a convicted criminal, gets made a leiutenant, busted down then promoted again.
every member of the Voyager crew was promoted at least one rank after (it's in the wiki) the ranks they held on board were mostly frozen due to there being not much room for more senior officers and crew Harry actually becomes 1st officer of voyager at one point
I‘m a grown man, but those few minutes can bring me close to tears out of nowhere every time… This emotional highlight alone makes voyager a great show!
This last leg of Voyager's trip the journey home should have been a 3 part episode. I would like to see Kim hug his parents, Tom presenting wife & child, Chakotay's & Torres' Maque trials, Seven's debriefing and new work, Equinox crew's court marshal for murder, the doctor meeting Barclay for upgrades(?), Tuvok's health restored, Janeway's next assignment and yes I love this show.
"Homecoming" by Christie Golden goes into what happens after they return if you're interested in reading about it. Is a 2-part though. Second book is called "The Farther Shore" by the same author.
I wish it could have continued....I loved all the Star Trek series and the movies as well....good stories and great actors/actresses...... RIP Gene Roddenberry, your adventures will continue with you in all of us in our hearts.......HIGH 5.
So awesome they were escorted to earth by a representative of all Star Trek shows to date at the end. An excelsior class for tos, a galaxy class for tng, and a defiant class for ds9. A Prometheus class is there too.
Such an awesome ending to an incredible Star Trek series. I miss Voyager and wish so much there was just one more episode after this one of the crews' homecoming on Earth... We can only imagine.
My wife stumbled upon the first episode of this (double episode) then said this is great, do they make it home? I said, you need to watch it to find out (I'd already watched the whole series). We now own the full Voyager and DS9 series on DVD and my wife has watched them several times. She is a confirmed Trekkie, lol.
I was thinking Janeway's report, its likely to be the longest report in Star Fleet history, because its seven years worth of travelling and information and likely to take many days to review and I suspect the heads of Star Fleet would be questioning her directly along with the senior officers of the ship while those under them would likely get promotions to the next rank after all they been through while those who died in service of Star Fleet would get promotions as well as their remains reunited with their loved ones. Of course, the media of this era would likely quickly reporting on the Borg sudden reappearance and destruction of their ship along with the return of the lost ship Voyager
Thinking about how much shit admirals over the years gave Picard over the times he violated the prime directive (14 times I think).....imagine those pencil pushing bastards grilling Janeway on the judgement calls that she had to make during those years stuck in the Delta Quadrant. I mean hell, given how the Federation works, even what she did to the Borg would be considered a terrible war crime to many. Of course from what we saw in Nemesis, she still became an admiral so I guess the pencil pushers didn't get their pound of flesh from her.
Thank goodness they've already had read half of it by then -- the Hirogen comm array discovered several years prior to their return already transmitted the story of the first half of their journey back home and was well-studied/published by then.
Actually she gave them a huge data dump when she sent the crew letters, logs and mission reports the first time they got in touch with Star Fleet. Also they were able to send more I assume with the upgraded long range communications tech that Barclay sent them. She has only the most recent mission reports to deliver, and of course the most recent one :D
I was 12 when this show came out never missed an episode of it I loved it and still do so many good memories watching this it was an escape from my really sorry childhood I had
The best series finale in the franchise. Great writing and acting, especially by Kate Mulgrew as Admiral and Captain Janeway. Lines like "I'm not talking about technology, I'm talking about people" and "I've been trying to get this crew home for so many years that I think I forgot how much loved being together and how loyal they were to you" were truly poignant.
If they would of added a homecoming ending after they got back reflecting on the crew and what is happening to them afterwards then it would be the best finale... but they ended it with it will be in my report... really... We dont get to see them come back on earth, see there families or anything... the kinda dragged the whole episode down and put a black mark on the series.... It might as well been like Quantum Leap where he never goes home, the ending kinda feels just as disappointing as this one.
Absolutely awesome! I love the way Jane way and the crew are just so chill about finally coming home. If that were me on that bridge I would be hooting and hollering and dancing a jig everywhere. Of course that’s just me, lol. Thank you for posting the video. Everyone take care, take it easy and be safe
I would have liked to see the captains of the other ships to start sending welcome home messages and when admiral Paris was talking to Janeway the doctor called the bridge and they all heard the Baby cry the admiral ask what was that Janeway would say your granddaughter sir and Tom would stand to go to sickbay the admiral would say “be right there Tom “ then start asking where the nearest transporter was and got to call my wife . One more episode after getting back home where they meeting family ships bring in family members like Tivoli and Naomi Wildman meet her father for the first time, Chakotay learning about maquis fall to the dominion and seeing Harry Kim getting promoted to lieutenant.
neil king Wow, your scenario really made me cry. That would have been a fantastic end for that episode. I think the writers just phoned in that script and gave it very little thought or care.
Or lieutenant commander. He was effectively a lieutenant for most of the show, considering his place both on the bridge and at senior staff meetings. You want to see how ACTUAL ensigns live, watch "Lower Decks". The TNG episode, I mean. Though the new series actually sounds funny.
One of the best shows that have ever been broadcast on television. I watched every show and I still watch the re-runs sometimes. I believe they did an excellent job to end the series and satisfied their fans.
When Voyager first emerged in the Alpha quadrant after being gone so long. The computers all had messages that there were thousands of updates that needed to be downloaded and installed.
lol
LCARS version 200.19
Do you want to update NOW?
Starfleet is about to update Voyager, please save your work and restart while the updates are applied.
@@NeonVisual Doctor goes offline and comes back a different color.
"Set course... for home."
"Aye, Captain. Setting course for Vulcan."
That would be hillarious and I died laughing you are reading a comment frim a ghost
@@honzasenbauer612 oh my gosh a ghost
@@epiclysmart I don’t believe in no ghosts. Oh wait wrong franchise.
Tuvok was always known across both the Alpha and Deltra Quadrant for his dad jokes.
well Chakotay is at the helm so assuming that was literial, he got to see the burnt wastelands of the Maquis colonies after the Jem'Hadar were done with them.
Oh you wanted a happy ending...
This finale needed about another 15 minutes to actually set foot on Earth to a heroes welcome home
Seconded.
Agreed
Eh... tbh, I don't think so. The silence of space with Earth just a few minutes away was perfect. They had 7 years of battles and explosions and anarchy. It ended with a calm reunion and a shocked crew that actually made it.
To me, the series was about them being trapped in the delta quadrant. Once they were home, the series is over. A celebration wouldn't have added to the story. However, they did give us a taste of what that celebration looked like at the start. Even though history was changed, I'm sure it was still pretty similar.
@@WiGgYof09 personally I'd would of loved to have seen a rescue from the alpha to delta quadrant voyager 2 , a fleet of ships in a battle with borge, or specise 152 . A couple of weeks to get home . At least a 15 minutes of welcome home 7 of 9 seeing 🌎 🏡 🙂
Finale needed to be a movie.
A klingon child born during a space battle has to be seen as some kind of blessing
She was a prophesied messiah, to be fair.
Actually she was prophesize as the Kuvah'magh.
@Billy's Vlogs Channel Billy Lyster Lyster Wouldn't she be like one quarter Klingon and 3 quarters human? Tom is human and B'elanna is only half Klingon so her children would only get like one quarter of the klingon genes.
@Irfan Hassankhan nah, klingon dna kicks human dna's ass so both b'elanna and the kid's dna both at least 70 percent klingon
A human child born during a space battle has to been as some kind of bad omen. (Kirks birth right after that shenanigan romulan mining vessel time travel). Lol. Hahaha
"Captain, we are being hailed."
"On screen"
"We have been trying to reach you about your ship's extended warranty."
I love it.
I'm sorry , but phaser damage is not covered. It's considered normal wear tear. 😁
@@MOJO-xi3wf Ok, that's crap! I paid for the extended warranty.
@@VelvetYeti See section 4.b.3(d).
Sorry but the warranty is invalid as you've peeled off the warranty sticker and performed unauthorised maintenance on the device.
"Mr. Kim, why are you crying?"
"Because.....I'LL FINALLY GET PROMOTED!!!" 😭😭
Because Libby is waiting for me at home and I still can't remember which building I live in!
@@Galilee1964 lmao
@@Galilee1964 ouch
Sorry Mr. Kim but no promotion for you, you are starfleets eternal Ensign
Everyone makes this joke but it could be worse...O'Brien got demoted from LT down to, "Chief." My brother and I used to talk about that as kids.
Seeing all those Federation Starships for the first time in 7 years must have hit them all in the feels
shit imagine what the enterprise was thinking because it was one of those ships "Why the hell cant we make an Entrance like that"!
It hit me, for sure!
Not only them.
Them?? US! lol
@@TwistedSecrets777 It wasn't, sadly.
In Memory of actor Richard Herd "Admiral Owen Paris". Has passed away at age 87 of cancer.
Good long life, good long career, good for him on his run.
RIP
The character Owen Paris also died to the Borg in the Star Trek: Destiny series of books.
Rest In Peace.
F
Perhaps the first time in Trek history that "every ship in range" of Earth included more than one ship (and that wasn't Enterprise).
and even then, it still seems to be a woefully small number of ships given that Earth is the political and administrative capital of the Federation, not to mention 2 or 3 of the largest shipyards in the Federation are in the Sol System. Hundreds of worlds, presumably tens of thousands of ships, and 18 is what they got, which is 18 times more than they usually have.
SOL was not a frontier world. What would be the point of having a whole fleet next to it at all times?
Earth is the capital of the Federation... it seems like they'd have had more defenses all the times that "Enterprise is the only ship in range". Frankly though, I think having nearly 20 rounded up in the scene above was a vast improvement, and a good number to have available to defend the planet within minutes notice.
I don't disagree than not having any ship nearby is a bit absurd, but on the other hand even having 20 seems too many. Anyway.
Their fleet was significantly larger at that point than throughout most of Star Trek, due to the build up of the Dominion War. That is probably why they had more ships near Earth, because they had more ships... meaning more ships that would be in dock between missions, and maybe more ships still assigned to the Sol System because of how beaten and battered they had been from the war. They'd want more ships around Earth, until they were certain the threat of the Dominion (and any species willing to take advantage of their post war condition) was entirely subsided.
“It will be in my report”
And that report is only gonna be 35,000 pages
That's just chapter 1
lol but the temperal prime directive wont allow her to make that report lol
The temporal prime directive says you aren't allowed to talk with people in the past about the future. She isn't violating the temporal prime directive personally by stating that her from an alternate future stopped by and upgraded the ship. Keep in mind the EMH makes full use of 29th century tech and Starfleet is aware of that. If her report violated the Temporal Prime Directive so would that.
Front and back
@@eilidh8146 Single spaced, 6 pt font 😂
I just noticed the final shot having a very subtle nod. An Excelsior Class, a Galaxy Class, a Defiant Class, a Nebula Class, and a four nacelled ship similar to the Stargazer, all falling into escort formation. This was the last we'd see of Star Trek for several years, and every available ship from each era was there at the end.
The four nacrllr one is the prometheus class. Advanced escort
Star trek Enterprise started the same year as Voyager ended, so not really the "last" time, but surely one of the most emotional scenes trek has to offer.
huh never noticed that
The 4 nacelled ship your talking about is the prometheus class
Every available ship from each era? Then what about the Constitution retrofits?
"How did you?"
"Massive violations of the temporal prime directive, that make Kirk look responsible. Luckily by my alternative self. Who died."
"Oh and by the way, if any Borg have survived, they now have access to our technology and protocols from about 30 years in the future. Might be worth rethinking any of those projects."
Yeah, myself from the future gave me theses bad ass upgrades! Takes a look! They stopped us exploding when we blew up that Borg tactical sphere we were inside of when we came through the transwarp conduit that we just destroyed.
Can't really blame the writers for this. There is hardly any way you could reasonably make this happen other than "We found another care taker" (would be seen as lame) or create some tech that would rip into all parts of the story telling. "A wormhole from where we are to there..." would have permanent implications just for a forced story ending.
@@Redisia Could have done something else, though. When Kes left the ship, she flung Voyager forward a good distance. Sprinkle a few more things like that in over the course of the series, and you've got a decent pace to get home without needing to break anything.
I can hear that in her voice, too.
"Set a course for home" was the last line spoken in the first and final episodes
Closing the circle.
:)
That was the idea.
Kirk: “It’s a five year mission…”
Janeway: “Hold my Romulan ale.”
*Coffee
@@NeoTechni Earl Grey - hot for me please.
Raktajino, extra sweet.
@@NeoTechni Black
I still love how the last few frames is the Defiant and Galaxy class, escorting the Voyager. It's like the shows are welcoming them home as well.
In the top right there is even an Excelsior class among them
@@SnarkyZazu excelsior wasnt even supposed to be there, wasnt due till tuesday
it was also a nice send off for the era. TNG, DS9 and VOY all happened around the same time. the next series was enterprise pre-federation.
But still no sovereign class. Kinda pisses me off. Most advanced ship in star fleet and you don’t have at least one guarding earth?
@@benjackson8731 I think the fact that they were heading towards earth symbolises that.
The way the crew reacts is so great. They are in total shock, they don't quite believe that they actually made it. They aren't yelling and cheering, they are quietly reflective.
Agreed. It is a surreal experience type of thing. Recall also some may not necessarily be "happy" returning as they have nothing there for them. Earth is just a final destination stop.
Yeah. They've had so many disappointments and near misses with getting home, it's just hard to believe it in the moment.
There was *No Reaction.*
I love that Admiral Paris was speaking to Janeway, but looking at his son.
I suspect there was some serious cheering once the ship cancelled the Red Alert.
Never noticed it before but when admiral Paris is talking to janeway he keeps glancing down at the screen to where Tom is with a proud smile on his face… nice little touch 😊
Well spotted.
Admiral: "Get every ship in range"
Officer: "But sir, the Enterprise isn't in range!"
Admiral: "Damn! We will have to settle for whatever else is around Earth...."
ADMIRAL: "Damn guess we die"
CREWMAN: "Sir 18 ships just entered range with another 9 on the way!"
ADMIRAL: "A miracle! Why did we never send the enterprise away more often!"
LOL
"We've got the Prometheus, a few Defiant-class ships, some Sabers, some Akiras, an Excelsior, and...an Oberth. That poor Oberth."
@@CharlesUrban Probably one of the threats the Prometheus was designed for.
@@CharlesUrban if I don't see a oberth explode after I see it its a bad episode
I'm not ashamed to say I had a tear in my eye when all the ships flew towards Earth, and Voyager finally returned home.
so am I right in thinking that the older Admiral Janeway was responsible for getting the ship home many years earlier than otherwise would have happened?
Got me too...
I was 17, i got juked. Then that transphasing torpedo was launched and i knew the hitched a ride.
@@helenahayes6150 Yes, she did. However, Admiral Janeway gets home in the timeline where First Contact never occurred.
Because that film happened it caused two possible futures: either Voyager gets home in that moment, or the Borg launch a full invasion of the Federation with hundreds of ships, totally destroying them.
It was a shifting time line because of the Borg attempting to stop Cochrane. It was why Q said in a far earlier episode that Starfleet in the Delta Quadrant was 100 years too early. He did not actually know why that shifted up. Their presence also caused a number of temporal interactions, like the Annorax.
Time shifting between those two outcomes was why Voyager had such a massively rough time where she was at the point of being destroyed over those 7 years, or escaping an incident fully intact.
@@shauntempley9757 wow - you really know your stuff. I have watched every episode but hadnt taken that all in. Now I want to watch it again to verify everything you said. I watch it all on netflix. I fall asleep watching voyager each night - for some reason its just a nice way to fall asleep. Interestingly, I spent the day with my 25 year old married son the other day and he also said he falls asleep in front of voyager.
"Whats that? Its blowing up from the inside!"
"We didn't hit it!"
"Look! One of ours! Out of the main hanger!"
“Now this is Podracing”
WHoooooOoooooooo!!
Spinning is a good trick!
These are quotes and references to an intellectual property that is not apart of the Star Trek Extended Universe: Please cease and desist immediately. Also, Han Solo wuz gayyyyyyyyyyy!!!
They should have done a barrel roll. That's a neat trick!
It ends as it began.
The last words of the very first and the very last episodes of Voyager:
“Set a course.....for home.”
Actually, the last words in Caretaker were from Paris which were "Aye, Captain" in reply to her order... Most people forget Tom
I just wished there was 1 more episode showing what happened after they got home.
Kevin M Yep, same here!
I completely agree. Would have given a bit of closure for the show
Me too
1 more episode might be too long, just a few minutes, 5-10mins would be enough.
Same thing I think everytime I see this...just 1 more episode to close it out right.
"It will all be in my report.."
3 days later dumps a 30'000 page report on Admiral Paris' desk.
Sorry admiral, you'll need a microscope to read it.
This has to be one of the most celebrated moments in Star Trek history. And I say that as a hardcore TOS fan.
This was a well deserved unification. It was by a miracle voyager survived.
Only to be eclipsed by the enterprise D coming out of nowhere for one last thunder run.
Ironically this is the first time in history more than one Starship was at Earth
If you were a superfan, maybe. The series had lost a lot of people before this, and Star Trek as a whole kinda did the Disney blunder during and after.
@@siliconwolverine The one and only good thing that came out of the Picard series.
I just had a thought, that makes this so much better for me.
The reason Janeway and crew are so abrupt when they come out of the sphere is this; They are just as shocked as everyone else.
How many times have they thought they had found a quick way home, only to turn into some of the worst moments in their journey.
The telepathic Pitcher plant, the Geodesic Fold, the temporal wormhole.
They were all holding their breaths, waiting for it to be ripped out from under them. Janeway made it abrupt, because she wants feet on the ground, before _something_ screwed them over
The proverbial other shoe
Great observation!! I could really relate why they're like "Did this REALLY happen this time? Did we really just beat the Borg AND used their own technology and ship to get home????"
Still had the sphere to destroy and perhaps Star Fleet to placate.
*Bright flash*
Q: "Oh you didn't think it would be THAT easy did you? Muhahahaha!"
I blame Gilligan
The writers couldn't let Admiral Paris stay on the line 20 more seconds and get to hear that his granddaughter was just born?
Also there was Tom's letter that the computer was suppose to transmit after his 30 days in the brig.
shes an officer now
@@Annoyingbirds I have fought alongside her on stop and naomi wildman, seven, neelix, tuvok, the doc, Tom Paris, harry and echep. Daniel's too. Even spock.
And some if the others from tos
@yeah I'm John Assal Actually, Alexander was three quarters klingon, so Torres, being only half klingon, probably didnt age at the same rate as him
Even after 20 years I still tear up at the end, they made it home. I always imagined that Janeway made a ship wide announcement. To all hands this is the captain at 18:00 hours we successfully emerged from the Borg sphere and we are being escorted by 15 federation starships. I made a promise to get this crew home it’s been a honour janeway out. Then a close up of earth space dock, as voyager gets closer several shuttles emerge. Once they dock on voyager the last scenes are of admiral Paris emerging greeting captain janeway. He then sees his son and seconds later he’s hugging him. With the last words being I’m so proud of you son
Michael Seaton same man.....the series ended before I was born but I still like to watch it.....
In fact we do not need this scene. It would be bad for narrative. The episode was ended precisely when it needed to be ended.
The beers are on Janeway.
*"He then sees his son and seconds later he’s hugging him."*
Tom: "Dad, there's someone I'd like you to meet. This is your grand-daughter...."
Me too man. First time I saw it I was like, Really tears? But now every time I see it I know there will be goose bumps and get emotional. Adore TNG but Voyager is my ST.
Voyager ends up in orbit around Vulcan.
Janeway: “Mr. Tuvok! What the h….”
Tuvok: “What? You said set a course for home.”
ah yes the different home
Close enough
@@Andy_Dagamer about a few hours of warp, they have time
"Oh well, we can all celebrate with a bowl of lukewarm plomeek broth."
"Captain, Vulcans do not celebrate."
"Sigh."
Hard to believe all the human crewmembers would be from Earth as well, since there are so many colony worlds spread far apart. Many of these would be generational colonies whereby they only had a distant relationship to Earth by then.
I love how Janeway was too overwhelmed to express her excitement and the crew were all struggling to not to show theirs- all afraid to jinx it I guess. Beautiful series.
Did you notice that she swallowed hard at 3:34?....like she choked up. Very subtle.
Yeah, she basically went numb right up until Tom and B'Elanna's baby was born. That snapped her out of it.
I'm not a superstitious man by any means but I always believed that when you've witnessed setback after setback and when you're barely holding on with blooded broken fingers to a slippery surface you tend to try to not to jinx anything until you have success and glory firmly in your hand.. It would be wise...
@@ohhhwolfy2536 also how she has says set a course to "choke" Home. home almost crying.
great actress
I think that is what an extra 5-10 minutes needed: Janeway addressing the crew saying they were home....
A show about trying to get back to Earth that ends before they've actually reached Earth.
This show was in desperate need of an epilogue.
It’s about the voyage, not what happens when they get there.
@@HominidInterneticus I think maybe the writers/producers chose to leave it open-ended like this. Because you can't please all the viewers, you can choose to please none of them.
Tracy Wood What are you talking about? Plenty of viewers were/are pleased by this ending.
@@qwerty99337 And yet DS9 managed to do an ending which addressed everything in a satisfying way.
I know it's nearly a year later, and a book not TV series, but Christie Golden wrote two novels, "Homecoming" and "The Farther Shore" which is a followup to what happens after the crew reach earth.
"Set a course, for home." Cpt. Janeway said this line in the very first episode and the last.
Yes......... there are 3 other comments saying the same thing........
I always liked the little touch of the Prometheus being among the ships to welcome voyager home, given it's safety is due to Voyagers doctor.
I also liked the fact that one of the ships in range of Earth is the Soyuz-class Uss Bozeman, the oldest working Starfleet ship.
@@QuintonKettleburgh The Bozeman is a tough old bird. She took on the Borg at the battle of 001 AND fought in the Dominion War as well.
Pretty damn good for a ship that by that point is 90 years apparently out of date.
Course part of that was probably the crew going "We spent 80 years in a Temporal Distortion. WE'RE NOT DYING TODAY!"
"Janeway, you're fired. You haven't showed up for work in seven years."
Nah, they promoted her to Admiral because she could do less damage that way.
@@Ambaryerno Woooooooooshhh! Did you hear that? It was the joke completely flying over your head
@@raoul-adrian3934 Glass houses, dipshit.
I brought the ship back in one piece though
"Jokes on you, I haven't clocked out for seven years. Overtime!" XD
Star fleet R&D is going to have a field day with “Voyager”. Voyager is basically the most powerful ship in the entire fleet.
The temporal directive would require they remove and store the ablative armor generators and transphasic torpedoes, but tons of other goodies (Isokinetic cannons anyone?) would be making their way to the R&D geeks.
Sloan probably got a handle on the armor and torpedoes
Well Sloan "died" (who knows for sure) but Section 31 would be rubbing their hands with glee
@@22steve5150 At the same time the borg got a chance to scan probe and test that tech.... They might have learned something, it might be a bad idea to leave it like that. Even if it could ofsett things.. Then again, the It just a few decades of very specific tech.
In a book, they explore this reality. Spoiler alert, only certain ships were outfitted with the Transphasic Torpedoes including the Enterprise-E and Riker’s new ship. Starfleet also developed new transwarp tech.
The Borg’s response was that it shifted the way it views the Federation. It needs to be destroyed, not assimilated. “Resistance is futile, but welcome.”
"This is Captain Janeway to Starfleet Command, requesting docking permission"
"Apologies captain, all docks are currently occupied"
"What the hell? Did I not specifically say "keep a docking bay open for us?!" >:|
That implies they don't simply land her on the parade grounds at the Academy.
@@blackjac5000 Cut to the ship landing, squashing a tree and Boothby running over with a rake and belting Janeway
@@Trek001 a tree...in the middle of the parade ground. Right.
@@andrewmurray1550 we have seen how some of them fly
they were only off by 1km or whatever and were like "Tom can repark us later"
The guy picking out cosmetics for his Sidewinder: "Just give me a minute. I'm having a hard time deciding how I want my ship to look."
Maybe I'm a sentimental old woman, but I still get chills seeing Voyager emerging from the fireball that had been the Borg Sphere.
I agree with you so much
Well I guess that I'm a 46 years old sentimental man then. It's good to see that so many people still get such positive vibes from these magnificent episodes after all those years. ;-)
@@swissbiggy Okay, I'm 52. I guess I'm not THAT old.
our gen were the perfect audience for Trek
47, seen this episode many times, still cry at end
I'm only 34, but I love it too.
should have had an extra 10 minutes, just so we could see them land and be reunited with family
Some did not have anyone to wait for them.
Or Admiral Paris meeting his grandchild for the first time.
Exactly. I just finished this episode and was like ‘that’s it?!’
This series ended as poorly as it began.
They showed the celebration of voyagers 18 year return on Admiral Janeways timeline in the beginning of the show. Had fireworks at the San Francisco Bay.
Imagine the faces of the engineers when they find the Voyager armed to the teeth.
No kidding, not to mention all the tech Voyager has come across through the years. At one point voyager was "covered" in Borg Tech. The armor and Transphasic Torpedoes they came back with alone would give Starfleet a huge advantage.
@@MrTmax74 now that I think about it, doesn't it break the timeline?
@@homer1075 they can't break the timeline if it has already become the timeline.
Hopefully Star Trek Picard doesn't ignore this part of the franchise.
The Federation should at least have Voyager's Ablative Hull Armor and Transphasic Torpedoes.
Maybe in a select few vessels for extreme situations, slipstream drives on a lot of long range ships should also be present.
Scientists and Engineers at starfleet should be experimenting with Transwarp tech and it's about time they begun exploring outside of The Milky Way.
@@MrTmax74 Don't forget the photonic cannon!
They make "It's only a light-year from earth" sound so close, but in reality it's 500x the distance the Voyager 2 probe has travelled since leaving earth 45 years ago!
I really wish that they had given the show 1, maybe 2, more episodes. Just as a sort of epilogue to show how the crew was received back home, saw their families, etc.. It would have been a nice touch after seven seasons.
I get that sentiment but naw... that sort of stuff just sort of drags it out. Sometimes just giving us that sort of ending is enough, its up to us to figure out how our own interpretations of the characters continued onwards.
I imagine chakotay and they other makee had quite the debriefing to go through very shortly after they arrived. I'd imagine that all of them would of gotten a full pardon after reading through everything they had done to help voyager get home.
We already sort of know how 7 of 9 ended up with the picard series, still it would of been interesting to see how starfleet would of greeted her and the massive amount of vouching janeway would of had to of done on her behalf.
Most interestingly I would of liked to of seen how the doctor fared. Him being basically the first truly sentient hologram (aside from Moriarty). I'm sure his debriefing at starfleet medical would of been really interesting.
Tuvok going back home to his family I imagine is exactly as it you would think it would of played out though I darsay that tuvok might of picked up a couple of bad habits from neelix and shown just a small hint of emotion.
Janeway herself giving a full debriefing, she probably had to answer a whole boat load of questions with all the close calls with the prime directive she had as well as the omega particle situation that she allowed her crew to help her with, not to mention the plethora of reports on hostile species they came across. God and the level of technology they brought back to the alpha quadrant.
@@solidicone- I agree with you - I imagine, too, that the Maqui get a full pardon, and some of them accept positions in Starfleet. I've watched this clip a bunch of times, but I wonder now that Janeway and crew is back 16 years earlier, what if Adm. Janeway doesn't depart to the Delta quadrant in the past? Is there a paradox here? I guess the Borg network got destroyed in the present, so even if Adm Janeway doesn't return in the future...?
@@solidicone
I think it would've been great to see this episode go on for like an extra 15-30 mins and show what happened to the Voyager crew after they returned to earth. Maybe a flash forward to 5-10 years where they show what each crew member moved on to doing when they returned to the Alpha quadrant.
The way they ended it was far too abrupt in comparison to how TNG and DS9 ended with their finales which gave the audience more of a chance to see what happened to their favorite characters and to say goodbye to them. With Voyager its we made it back, set a course for earth and roll end credits.
Didn’t they do this in the beginning/throughout the final episode?
Anyway, a long lost ship after traveling 70,000 lightyears across the galaxy making an entrance amidst a fiery explosion of a Borg sphere right inside the Sol system was awesome and it truly deserved the 18 ship welcome party
Hafiz Shafi That reminds me of ST Enterprise when the crew came home after the Xindi mission and received a multiple ship welcome home.
Agreed, but coinciding the baby being born was too much imo.
true dat
@@beingsshepherd But it was a Klingon baby being born during battle, so it is appropriate.
@@beingsshepherd Yeah that was kinda cringe.
"Hey, so we're back."
" 'K."
hahaha right! Let's not get too ecxited.
The way I see it, is everyone was so overwhelmed they don't know what to say. I think I would be too If I'd suffered even a little of what they did.
Not even a "boom, bitch" out of Tuvok when the Borg sphere exploded.
They went with a realistic ending, rather than a hollywood ending.
Like when Grounds Keeper Willie went back home to Scotland.
Mom: "I see you're back son."
Willie: : "Aye."
Mom: "...I don't believe you'll be leavin' soon?"
Willie: "Aye.."
And then, the part Janeway secretly dreaded from all this:
A visit from Temporal Investigations.
No one expects the TVA
@@chadturley2803 Even when they're on time.
If you think about it, knowing everything we do about the Temporal Officers who control time and space, they cannot possibly allow this ending of Voyager to be 'canon.'
Voyager comes home decades early, equipped with futuristic weaponry and led by a treasonous Future Janeway. If they allow this timeline to play out, it opens the door to "Well, why not just send technology back in time over and over, rapidly scaling up humanity's power to become unstoppable?"
If they can allow Janeway to come home with a ship 5 centuries more advanced than anything else that exists, the temporal prime directive has no meaning.
@@Klokinator And they were promptly told to shut up by people even higher then them
@@Klokinator Indeed. For the sake of preserving the proper flow of history, Voyager's future-tech would have to have been classified and destroyed, and have all knowledge of what happened suppressed about as hard as Omega.
"Set a course.... for home".
After all these years, those final words of Captain Janeway of the series still give the feels.
"Mr. Paris, what's our position?" "Right where we expected to be" genius.
We're in the Zulu quadrant would have been better. A whole lot more series to be made!
I like how the Voyager was accompanied by a Defiant and a Galaxy class ship. the ships from the other 2 next gen star trek series.
tigersebel it’s a shame they didn’t include the Enterprise-E or at least a Sovereign Class, then it’ll come full circle on all of the iconic ship class of the TNG series.
@@kevintran5901 You know we needed that Olympus class ship ;)
It's like a family reunion
What about a Constitution-refit class? Kinda like a nod to the original cast.
@@sibbywoo At least an Excelsior or Ambassador.
I've watched this entire show from beginning to end like four times, and that calm "We did it." still brings a tear to my eye every time.
I honestly cry when I watch the season finale, especially this scene. Voyager is the one star trek that deeply resonates with me, especially the characters and the actors.
Me too.
meh.. if only it had less filler episodes. I think the writing quality declined compared to TNG and DS9
I always bought this was a well thought through 2 hour finale. Janeway’s ignoring the Temporal Prime Directive goes right back to her suggestion in regards to ignoring it. Having Tom and B’elana Paris’ child delivered in the heat of the battle is classic Trek.
One of my all-time favorite scenes in any show! I LOVED how Voyager came "sliding into home" amidst explosions. I periodically re-watch Voyager and when I get to this scene, I usually rewind and watch it again.
So what? I don't care. I still love this scene. I like the way it was done and the context it was done in.
LOL...shoulda perhaps, but didn't. That's why the "sliding into home" feeling I got. Go ahead. Keep trying to ruin it for me. You are just wasting your time.
@Leo Peridot LOL - I STILL Love Voyager! To be fair, you should know that I am a long time Trekkie and in spite of any plot holes or other inconsistencies, I find the essential truths of Trek to be personally sustaining. Live long and prosper.
@Leo Peridot Interesting. While I totally agree with you about JJ Abrams movies and Discovery, I still love everything up to (and yes including but not quite as much) Enterprise. I guess I have not yet grown out of it, but I'm still young at only 60.
@@KnotGypsy 😊👍
I love the way Admiral Paris kept glancing down at Tom! 💖
The part at 2:10 where Janeway says "....We did it.". She's in disbelief that after seven long years, she finally got her crew home, like she promsed. I think as nuanced as it is, it's one of the most emotional scenes of the show.
The emotion was real all the actors were so upset that this was the end they were a family on screen and off
BEST STAR TREK TO EVER EXIST NO ONE CAN CHANGE MY MIND
I always get choked up and sad when Janeway does at the end ….''WE made it '' …….and '' Set a course ….for home ''.
Last time we saw the 24th century.
If you didn't cry when Janeway said 'set a course... for home.' Then where has your soul gone?
Q took it
Maybe the past couple years have been so hard, we're all cried out? Personally, I have no tears left.
@@BrowncoatInABox damn spirits of disharmony
SERIOUSLY THEY HAVE CHAOS MAGIC
“You better get down there Tom” love Captain Janeway and Star Trek Voyager.
1:38 I like that "We'll celebrate later" thing.
Like lets keep it together until we are sure
I get tearful every time I see this.
same
And I thought it was just me ^_^.
dude, yes. after 8 (?) seasons, its so fucking emotional.
It doesn’t matter how many times I've seen this clip, I always end up in tears... What an emotional moment for the crew and for us watching it.....
They spent so much time trying to get home, and it finally happened!!! 😭😭😭😭
This series ended way too soon, there should've been a couple of episodes going over the impact of Voyagers' return home....
You're absolutely CORRECT! To end the series like this was like a slap in the face of the fans. One more season (even a short one) would've sufficed to see their transitions back to life in the alpha quardrant. Did Harry finally get promoted to AT LEAST Lt Cmdr (on his way towards the Captaincy) and get reassigned to another starship? Did Chakotay marry 7 and settle on Earth and teach at Starfleet academy? Was Janeway promoted to Admiral right away? What happened to Voyager? Was it decommissioned and turned into a museum (like future Admiral Janeway stated) overlooking the Presidio in San Francisco? Did Belana and Tom settle down on Earth and possibly have more children? Did the Doctor go on to write any books and invent magnificent medical breakthroughs? Did Tuvok get that reunion with his wife and kids and get cured from his illness? How did Admiral Paris feel about having a (mostly human) but part grand daughter of Klingon heritage? WHY DID THEY END IT LIKE THIS??
It was intentionally like that, the moral of the story was that life is not necessarily about the destination.
@@ascherlafayette8572 Ralph W Emerson. Yes, yes...it's all about the JOURNEY. Well, it wouldn't hurt to see how they're doing. That's part of life as well.
@@KnowTrentTimoy I suppose, but not finding out is also part of life sometimes.
Episodes about their life post-Voyager would have been anticlimactic, but I think the stories could be told through still images; Kim with his family, proudly sporting a new pip on his uniform. The Paris family with the baby. The Doctor being presented with an award at Starfleet Medical. Etc.
For 36 years, the Enterprise was ALWAYS "the only ship in range" to combat some threat. Here there's 18 ships, with 9 more on the way nearly instantly. It's just funny irony.
I really wish there had been a followup ep or two, so we could see the crew being home. I am particularly interested in seeing how Seven reacted to being in the Alpha Quadrant.
Deadpool that's cause this transwarp conduit was only a lightyear away from Earth. It makes sense that there would be more ships to defend the seat of the Federation. Plus the Enterprise was mostly on deep space mission which would mean it would mostly be the only ship in the region.
This also would have been a few short years after the end of the Dominion war, also lending to an increased number of ships at Earth.
They learned something from the Dominion War and the Breen Attack most likely.
There is also a relaunch novel that deals with Sevens reactions.
Deadpool You might like a couple of books written by Christie Golden; Homecoming and The Farther Shore. Homecoming begins at exactly the same moment the TV series ends. All characters are mentioned and they all have a role on Earth. I would have preferred a movie or like you said "a followup ep or two", but these books really do a decent job in explaining what happened to the Voyager crew on Earth.
Deadpool If you're referring to the Galaxy class ship being the ENTERPRISE-D you're actually mistaken.
The events of this series ender take place several years after the end of TNG, and after the events of the movie STAR TREK: GENERATIONS. In that movie the ENTERPRISE-D was destroyed in a spectacular crash. The destruction of the ENTERPRISE-D is the main reason why Worf was assigned to DEEP SPACE NINE during the Dominion War.
Based on the time line of the series, and movies before VOYAGERS series finale at the time on VOYAGERS return in this episode the ENTERPRISE-E Sovereign class was commissioned, and already an important part of Star Fleet.
I would like to see a video showing Voyager entering the drydock in Earth’s orbit after 7 years of journey in the Delta Quadrant.
I'd have loved it if they had that scene, too! They could've added an extra 15 min. to the episode for that.
I'd have loved to see the looks on all the engineer's faces after seeing all the modifications, but Delta Quadrant originated, and Admiral Janeway's modifications.
Not to mention, Seven of Nine's! Several of those starfleet engineers probably would've shit themselves! And of course, the new Blade of Hull Armour!
Kav -- That's Ablative armor.
Sokolniki homecoming follows through with this. Starfleet cannibalises the ship in a project called *full circle* i think it is to analyze all the modded tech.
I loved that moment between Admiral and Lieutenant Paris. A very subtle glance that said, "We'll hold off celebrating until we're alone."
As a bonus, not only does the Admiral (and presumably Tom's Mother) get to see their son after 7 years, but they also get to meet their daughter-in-law and granddaughter.
One of the things that I do like about this ending is the symbolism it had: The death of Admiral Janeway, the Borg queen and the Borg sphere, symbolizes the end of an agonizing and hard journey for Voyager and its crew during the delta quadrant for return to home, and the birth of Tom and B'Elanna's baby on alpha quadrant, symbolizes the new hope of the successful return home. Seeing the Borg ship emerge from the transwarp hub, and be destroyed by the Voyager, is like symbolizing that the baby came out of her mother's womb unharmed by death. It´s like a metaphor of hope in the midst of life's most difficult situations, it´s like the beginning of a new life after having lost a lot, it´s a gift of joy in the midst of suffering, it´s the optimistic vision of the classic Star Trek, after all. I was also pleased to see the well-deserved respect that Voyager was given in the midst of the other Federation ships that escorted her at the end. I have to admit that I expected a much better ending, with scenes of each of the characters returning home, even showing the members of the Federation welcoming the entire Voyager crew without any discrimination (regardless of whether they are Maquis or a human Borg, so that the message of hope and reconciliation is not lost, which ultimately represents this end). Anyway, I really liked this show, no matter how many others hate it.
SORRY FOR MY ENGLISH.
I don’t care what anybody says, this scene was fantastic!
it could have been better if Janeway said "fuck 'em up, Tuvok!"
the torpedo near the end from the sphere was a little weird, but a good scene none the less
Yeah its only bad if you consider its the end of a series.
Well I would say one problem is that the Borg on the sphere disobeyed the Queen's orders, they were supposed to destroy Voyager in order to stop the future Janeway from causing the destruction of the transwarp hub and not capture it.
Yes !!!
imagine a followup series that has data and seven working together
Speedj2 wow yes
Data, spock and seven.
I don't think I could handle that much brain power!
and Barclay
Speedj2 Perhaps 7 will become Datas new girlfriend. Being that Lt. Yarr is no longer around, 7 and Data could explore humanity together. If so; Data would have a good reason to laugh at all the biological guys. As the saying goes: "The early bird gets the worm". Data would do excellent with 7of9. Picard would just have to resort to "Q".
Sorry always get teary eyed watching this
Who wouldnt after watching these people struggle for 7 years to get home
I've made a similar comment about this episode but i honestly can't say it enough.This ending of this series really hit home with me.This finale was and is a masterpiece and excellent in it's delivery.
I always hated how this episode just ended like it did. No welcome home celebration, no life after the delta quadrant scenes, no debriefing, just off to earth. A great series just seems like the end was cut short.
Kevin Smith. You get to see what happened when voyager returned home, in a Quentin Tarantino esque kind of way, Because the episode started out years after voyager returned home, and then captain janeway going back in time In the technologically advanced ship, with the technology she stole from the klingons: (Taking many years off the trip, and saving a lot of lives including 7of9s), and setting things straight, so voyager can return home safely!
Aaron Greenfield Right and I get all of that. However, and excuse me for being all nerdy and technical, but since Admiral Janeway helped captain Janeway get back sooner then the Admirals time line no longer exist, correct? All I'm saying is that it still would have IMO been nice to see some closure upon arriving home after all they've been through.
Could have been worse. At least we don't have a scene of Riker and Troi leaving a holodeck and the reveal that the whole show was a holodeck story.
digitalcurrents yea that was kind of weird lol. A not so subtle way to make it Canon lol.
digitalcurrents not the whole show, just that one episode. But you are right on the main point that it sucked
I feel sorry for Harry Kim. saves the ship mulitple times, loyal and respectful. 7+ years as an ensign, yet Tom Paris, a convicted criminal, gets made a leiutenant, busted down then promoted again.
Brin Hitchings I've noticed the same thing
In Star Trek Online he's finally promoted to captain in the 25th century.
Yeah I'm sure EVERYONE onboard got big promotions after 7 year mission to the Delta quadrant.
every member of the Voyager crew was promoted at least one rank after (it's in the wiki) the ranks they held on board were mostly frozen due to there being not much room for more senior officers and crew Harry actually becomes 1st officer of voyager at one point
The ensign title was just a running joke but he was a senior officer, you saw how valuable he was through the series and he did become captain
RIP Owen Paris aka Richard Herd.
This is especially poignant now, with the recent passing of Richard Herd...
Rest in peace, Admiral Paris.
I‘m a grown man, but those few minutes can bring me close to tears out of nowhere every time…
This emotional highlight alone makes voyager a great show!
Star Trek at its peak! Voyager is the best! "To the journey!"
Exactly. The journey, not the arrival. Thats why they didn't show what happened to everyone. No matter what anyone says, the finale was perfect.
I absolutely love that scene. One of my favorite from the whole Star Trek franchise.
This last leg of Voyager's trip the journey home should have been a 3 part episode.
I would like to see Kim hug his parents, Tom presenting wife & child, Chakotay's & Torres' Maque trials, Seven's debriefing and new work, Equinox crew's court marshal for murder, the doctor meeting Barclay for upgrades(?), Tuvok's health restored, Janeway's next assignment and yes I love this show.
"Homecoming" by Christie Golden goes into what happens after they return if you're interested in reading about it. Is a 2-part though. Second book is called "The Farther Shore" by the same author.
Probably a good joke scene could have been an epilog where kim finally gets his pips.
Love that sorry to surprise you next time we'll call ahead
I wish it could have continued....I loved all the Star Trek series and the movies as well....good stories and great actors/actresses...... RIP Gene Roddenberry, your adventures will continue with you in all of us in our hearts.......HIGH 5.
I just realised that the Prometheus, the ship the Doctor helped save from the Romulans, was there.
Where do you see that? I just looked for it, but didn't see it.
@@Galilee1964 I could be wrong but I believe that is it at 0:59
@@Three-Headed-Monkey yes thats the Prometheus :)
The question is, is it the Prometheus, or just a Prometheus-Class ship? The EMH Mark-2 said that it was a vessel for deep-space assignments.
When they finally got home, I cried a little because it was emotional ending. I love happy ending.
Most memorable series, loved Janeway
So awesome they were escorted to earth by a representative of all Star Trek shows to date at the end. An excelsior class for tos, a galaxy class for tng, and a defiant class for ds9. A Prometheus class is there too.
After all this time, I never had a chance or time to see the ending. And now I'm standing at work crying....😢❤
Such an awesome ending to an incredible Star Trek series. I miss Voyager and wish so much there was just one more episode after this one of the crews' homecoming on Earth... We can only imagine.
My wife stumbled upon the first episode of this (double episode) then said this is great, do they make it home? I said, you need to watch it to find out (I'd already watched the whole series).
We now own the full Voyager and DS9 series on DVD and my wife has watched them several times. She is a confirmed Trekkie, lol.
She doesn’t have TOS or TNG
@@CarterWills1 So?
Congrats
I was thinking Janeway's report, its likely to be the longest report in Star Fleet history, because its seven years worth of travelling and information and likely to take many days to review and I suspect the heads of Star Fleet would be questioning her directly along with the senior officers of the ship while those under them would likely get promotions to the next rank after all they been through while those who died in service of Star Fleet would get promotions as well as their remains reunited with their loved ones. Of course, the media of this era would likely quickly reporting on the Borg sudden reappearance and destruction of their ship along with the return of the lost ship Voyager
Thinking about how much shit admirals over the years gave Picard over the times he violated the prime directive (14 times I think).....imagine those pencil pushing bastards grilling Janeway on the judgement calls that she had to make during those years stuck in the Delta Quadrant. I mean hell, given how the Federation works, even what she did to the Borg would be considered a terrible war crime to many. Of course from what we saw in Nemesis, she still became an admiral so I guess the pencil pushers didn't get their pound of flesh from her.
Thank goodness they've already had read half of it by then -- the Hirogen comm array discovered several years prior to their return already transmitted the story of the first half of their journey back home and was well-studied/published by then.
Also they were in regular contact through the MIDAS Array and Barclay
Barclay never gave up on them either.
Actually she gave them a huge data dump when she sent the crew letters, logs and mission reports the first time they got in touch with Star Fleet. Also they were able to send more I assume with the upgraded long range communications tech that Barclay sent them. She has only the most recent mission reports to deliver, and of course the most recent one :D
How I loved this show and still miss it
One of the best scenes when Voyager leaves the Borg sphere debris.
Probably one of the greatest moments in Sci-fi history! I wonder how many tears of joy were shed that day.
Chris Goodie Tears of disappointment are more likely as we do not get to see the crew handle their homecoming.
I recommend all of the other Star Trek shows, if you're blown away by this. You're in for a shock
"Set a course, for home" her last line in the pilot and the final episode, delivered so differently.
Funny thing is that they could've done a movie from voyager. So many different subjects could've been used. Love this show
They were going to but Brent Spiner wanted to make the next movie so they did his movie instead.
I was 12 when this show came out never missed an episode of it I loved it and still do so many good memories watching this it was an escape from my really sorry childhood I had
That was a nice touch showing that shot of starfleet vessels after Voyager had been alone for so long
The best series finale in the franchise. Great writing and acting, especially by Kate Mulgrew as Admiral and Captain Janeway. Lines like "I'm not talking about technology, I'm talking about people" and "I've been trying to get this crew home for so many years that I think I forgot how much loved being together and how loyal they were to you" were truly poignant.
If they would of added a homecoming ending after they got back reflecting on the crew and what is happening to them afterwards then it would be the best finale... but they ended it with it will be in my report... really... We dont get to see them come back on earth, see there families or anything... the kinda dragged the whole episode down and put a black mark on the series.... It might as well been like Quantum Leap where he never goes home, the ending kinda feels just as disappointing as this one.
One thing I like, Starfleet immediately opens fire. None of the hesitation we see with Wolf 359, or the 1st contact battle. Starfleet done playing.
Absolutely awesome! I love the way Jane way and the crew are just so chill about finally coming home. If that were me on that bridge I would be hooting and hollering and dancing a jig everywhere. Of course that’s just me, lol. Thank you for posting the video. Everyone take care, take it easy and be safe
That was more for our benefit really to keep us guessing as to whether they'd taken that Delta Quadrant exit, or....
I would have liked to see the captains of the other ships to start sending welcome home messages and when admiral Paris was talking to Janeway the doctor called the bridge and they all heard the Baby cry the admiral ask what was that Janeway would say your granddaughter sir and Tom would stand to go to sickbay the admiral would say “be right there Tom “ then start asking where the nearest transporter was and got to call my wife . One more episode after getting back home where they meeting family ships bring in family members like Tivoli and Naomi Wildman meet her father for the first time, Chakotay learning about maquis fall to the dominion and seeing Harry Kim getting promoted to lieutenant.
Just lieutenant? Fine, but he needs some GOTDAMM MEDALS for nearly being redshirted so many times. XD
neil king Wow, your scenario really made me cry. That would have been a fantastic end for that episode. I think the writers just phoned in that script and gave it very little thought or care.
Admiral Paris, the only admiral in Starfleet that was actually a good person.
LoL. Everybody wants to re-write the script.
Or lieutenant commander. He was effectively a lieutenant for most of the show, considering his place both on the bridge and at senior staff meetings. You want to see how ACTUAL ensigns live, watch "Lower Decks".
The TNG episode, I mean. Though the new series actually sounds funny.
It hit me that Janeway said "we did it" so calmly.
She must be so desperate to return home that she can't believe it when that actually happened.
Kate has said it was supposed to convey a sense of shock, make the audience feel what they felt.
One of the best shows that have ever been broadcast on television. I watched every show and I still watch the re-runs sometimes. I believe they did an excellent job to end the series and satisfied their fans.
I was so happy to see they made it home. This was a very awesome show.