FAT MIKE: Punk Rock Museum, NOFX breaking up, Hayley Williams & more
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Fat Mike of NOFX joins to talk about the Punk Rock Museum in Las Vegas, why NOFX is breaking up, Hayley Williams calling him out and more. Fat Mike of NOFX interview.
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00:00:00 - Fat Mike Talks Kinks and Punk Rock Museum Expectations
00:02:48 - The Punk Rock Museum: A Deep Dive into Iconic Memorabilia
00:05:36 - The Joy of Walking Through the Punk Rock Museum
00:08:24 - The Definition of Punk and the Importance of Historical Accuracy
00:11:10 - Can't Cancel Bands Based on Past Actions
00:13:52 - The Transformational Power of the Punk Rock Museum
00:16:33 - Instruments and Artifact Mishaps on Tour with David Shapiro and Guests
00:19:15 - Building a Music Industry Operation
00:22:01 - The Stress of Running a Business and Choosing Vegas as a Location
00:24:51 - Why Vegas is the Most Punk Rock City in North America
00:27:38 - The Treasure Trove: Punk Rock Memorabilia and Drinks at the Bar
00:30:17 - The Worldwide Museum of Punk Rock and the Bleeding Edge Bands of Indonesia
00:32:57 - The Importance of a Punk Rock Museum
00:36:01 - The Cultural Importance of Punk Rock and Anti-Establishment Art
00:38:55 - Expanding the Punk Rock Museum with Changing Rooms Every Six Months
00:41:36 - Spreading Joy and Finding Happiness Outside of a Band
00:44:27 - Pursuing Passion over Financial Success
00:47:14 - Fresh Sound and Inspiring Bands: A Conversation with NOFX
00:52:48 - The Haley Williams Controversy and Apology Attempt
00:55:29 - Fat Mike's Controversial Comments and Apologies
00:58:09 - Unprotected Sex and The End of NOFX's Shows
01:01:13 - Conversation with a Historian: Visiting the Museum - Zábava
This is the best interview with Mike that I've seen ever. He is super forthcoming and enjoying the conversation.
Another good fat mike interview is when he was on Toby Morse podcast one life one chance
Sobriety seems to agree with Mike.
Finn proved his cred when he was on Mikes Podcast
Agreed, and Finn was super respectful.
Fat Mike gave tons of great interviews... come on...
I love seeing Mike's face light up talking about punk rock. He's truly flying that flag high and keeping punk alive and well
Punk's Not Dead!
Fat Mike has really grown on me over the years. Whenever you two are together it's great. Keep 'em coming.
For real! They could host a podcast together and I would watch every episode
I've never really been into NOFX and Fat Mike was a big reason why. Always respected them and him because they were super punk rock and unapologetic about it though, just didn't mesh with me very well. The more I see of him now (or read about, the NOFX book is awesome) the more I like him now and he's an amazing example of somebody who's taken a very long time in life to get to his destination. He's gone from being a gatekeeper prick to treating everybody with a ton of respect and the much more difficult thing of trying to understand them and their perspective even when he didn't agree with it or outright dislikes it. That's not easy and he's doing an amazing job promoting this project and punk music in general now and few people could pull that off with any kind of credibility. Creating a first class inclusive Museum that's polished and puts a nice chunk money into the pockets of old musicians sounds like the least punk rock thing in the world. Somebody like him doing it properly is just giving the music and people the respect it deserves and the money is going to be people telling awesome stories who in some cases didn't make much because of their values and the genres values more than anything is awesome and cool as hell.
The way he handled the Hayley Williams question shows how much a good place he's in right now. He could've easily been really negative about it but he decided to call it for what it is and that's a publicity stunt by someone who's already on shaky ground for that. He was even positive about some of the things she's said and supports. Same with the story of helping the kid play a song and how much joy that brought him. I'm really happy for him that he's enjoying himself and bringing a lot positivity to a really negative world now.
Been a NOFX fan since high school in 1996, great band, very underrated players as well. Mike is one of the reasons I picked up the bass guitar. Finn, this was the best interview I have ever seen with Mike, he was honest and open and really just showcasing his true self.
He really is an awesome bass player an songwriter.
Nofx changed my life.
@Al Dabat alot of people. They were canceled where I live over stupid shit.
@Al Dabat over a mild joke. Don't argue with me...lmao
@Al Dabat Well, take Mike for example. If you play bass guitar you traffic in the bass community. I have done so for years and in these different avenues(online, print, video etc.) there are dozens upon dozens of “iconic” players that are constantly at the forefront of this world. Mike is never mentioned. I’m not talking about lists made by idiots who write for Rolling Stone or Vox who have never picked up an instrument and couldn’t tell you what standard turning is on a bass guitar. These are prominent folks who ignore Mike’s work when he is a very influential and technical pick player on bass, get it????
Hearing fat mike say “good Charlotte is punk” is something I never thought I would hear
What else would you call them
It's pop punk. It's still punk.
are they any good compared to legends such as Pink Lincolns, Showcase Showdown, Wire etc??
@@SecretAgentBeans Soul Asylum👍🏼
@@PunkRockZombie205 crap
I went to the Punk Rock Museum 2 weeks ago with Jennifer Finch as the tour guide! Jennifer was so passionate about the history and kept us engaged throughout the whole thing and sharing her experience coming through in the 90s! I loved it. I even got a picture with her!
Man, the punk rock museum is now a bucket list item and I’m gonna do as many different tours with as many different hosts as I can too. This is what I dreamed I could do as a young pre-teen punk rocker 🖤🖤🖤
The Finn/Mike budding bromance is awesome
Geez this one was heavy. Never saw Mike so open and vulnerable talking about things he's done in the past, for good or worst. He's trully seems to learn his lessons along the way and never avoid to change for the better, no matter how hard or painful it is. I've always apreciate the musician, now I trully apreciate the man. Nice one Finn! You're doing and amazing job for us punk rockers from around the world. Pardon my bad english. Thanx again! Cheers
Just knowing that you get greeted by Tony Sly makes my heart happy.
I went the first week the museum opened and as a punk nerd it was so worth it. Fat Mike being a G.O.A.T. bringing us together I hope they can keep growing and expanding their collection.
Went to the Punk Rock Museum a few weeks ago. It is absolutely amazing and IMO there’s nothing like it. Plus, The Fletcher is a kick ass drink!
I want one of those. Rum and coke in a Pringles can, right?
@@MikeVoss Fuck. Yes!
Visited today and it was an amazing experience. Ran into Fletcher and got a bass lesson from Mike! It was so cool that band members were just chilling around sharing stories with visitors.
This interview, I am not even done yet. But seriously I have cried and literally out loud commented how proud I was and am of all of this. Your right Mike! I say all the time instruments are meant to be played!!!! ❤ I love this man. His vision, his lyrics through his career and this baby he has birthed. It is my lifes mission to come a visit the Punk Rock Museum. ♡♡♡♡♡ thank you thank you Sir. Love you. (8) I hope that my daughters never know what it feels like to give up, to know the whole world is corrupt, to realize they are really on their own and there's no one left who cares(8) ♡♡♡.
Great interview! Can't wait to visit the museum. Me and my friends took our kids to see Bouncing Souls, Anti-flag, Wilhelm Scream, the Venemous pinks. My son was amazed at the community aspect, seeing the guys he just watched play on stage hanging in the crowd, the positive messages of solidarity...it was great to share that experience with the next generation.
I saw NOFX in Richmond back in '06. Talked to a guy in the crowd for a while before they went on. Super cool dude. We talked about our favorite bands, told stories, it was fun and very pleasant. Then NOFX took the stage and I realized I had been talking to El Hefe.
Great interview, Finn. Finally an interview where Mike isn't asked about 90's NOFX again and again.
Yess ❤
Incredible concept to have the instruments playable in the museum, so cool to hear how that + tour guides being there is creating experiences. That does sound genuinely memorable, and super punk rock 🤘🏼
Dude. Almost cried there. Definitely choked up. Finn have Fat Mike on some more. You guys are great together.
I am SO happy Mike said the Fat Wreck sound came from Propagandhi. I'm a casual Propagandhi fan, and a die hard NOFX fan, I am firmly on the NOFX side of the whole "Rock For Sustainable Capitalism" and "One Celled Creature" debacle, but credit absolutely needs to be where credit is due. Yes, Punk In Drublic is a better album, but it would have never happened without How To Clean Everything, and the fact that Mike himself acknowledges this, which a lot of people don't, is just a testament to what a humble and awesome person he is, despite his persona. I think the honesty of Fat Mike, basically giving Propagandhi credit for NOFX's biggest album, is the very definition of Punk Rock! It's just unbelievably cool!
He had me at Wesley Willis's keyboard...and letting visitors play on it. That's worth the price of admission alone. I was blessed in the past to have been able to experience a head-butt from Wesley. RIP.
Holy shit that's quite the blessing
First concert I went to I had just turned 15 in 1998 was The Queers , One Man Army, and a band called the beauties granted I had already been listening to punk rock for about three years at this point but this live show impacted me so greatly that from that point on I was a punker now I turn 40 this year and I’m still listening to and loving and getting the same feeling from these bands that I listened to all those years ago I love this genre and I will die a punk rocker!!!
Hey finn, this is an interview i’ve been looking forward to for a while and i love it, u always happen to post a new video when Im in class and i jus watch/listen to it while working and it really helps me get through the day, much appreciation🤘
Thank you for watching!
@Jose Vasquez No. To quote the DK’s “Nazi Punks Fuck Off!”
@Jose Vasquez It looks like someone jabbed your head with a screwdriver.
It's not punk to be racist, or a nazi, or a homophobic bigot, or hate and advocate for the dehumanizing and mistreatment of any other group of people for the way they were born.
Hating someone for being an asshole =/= hating someone for being black.
Their is a clear difference here.
@Jose Vasquez no it’s not. Punk rock is above everything else about inclusion. That band excluded and spread the message of supremacy over groups of people for their very existence. That’s the opposite of punk.
Watching this interview, you see the joy in Finn and Fast Mike just talking about the museum
What a legend. I'm looking at flight tickets from Europe to Las Vegas right now.
I had the distinct honor of photographing the Austin performance of Codefendants and NOFX. I might've cried a little.
Sometime between 2000 and 2003, I was on a bus headed to an away game in high school. I was in drumline and we all shared music on the bus - rummaging through each others' CD binders. A buddy of mine handed me a scratched up burned cd-r with NOFX scribbled all over it.
My life changed on that bus trip. From Linoleum to Bob to Stickin' in My Eye and finally The Decline. I was hooked. It's crazy to realize that for 20+ years this band has been at so many pivotal moments of my life. It felt good to finally see them if only for the last and first time. It felt even better than I was able to be a part of history and document it. So long and thanks for all the shoes Fat Mike & co.
Amazing interview. Thank you!!!!!
Want on a tour led by Mike. He was hilarious and informative. Best tour guide ever
Ayyyy! Only saw the thumbnail and I'm stoked 😎
When you talked about people being able to play the guitars of some ´Punk icons´, I instantly remembered how I once turned the "wheel" by Duchamp (with the thrill of not knowing if this was actually ´allowed´). Nice you mentioned Duchamp here, too. I think you can even spot the Punk spirit even way earlier than Dada. (Like Diogenes in ancient Greece.)
I was really sceptical about the idea of a Punk museum, but it seems to be really great.
They shouldn't have to justify the price! It's a business, people are allowed to make money. Looks like an awesome museum, I need to go!!!
Hell yeah!!! I’ve been waiting for this ever since you were on his podcast!
NOFX and Propaghandi two of my favorite bands and I always thought their first two albums sounded like NOFX. It makes sense now that he was inspired by them after HTCE.
NOFX has always been a staple band in my life growing up, listening to them since late 80's as well as of course seeing them LIVE. They were the core to my music existence in the 80's, 90's punk scene and beyond. Because of this band, I learned to play guitar many, many years ago in my early teens and ultimately learned how to play punk because of them. Sure, you had/have amazing bands of the same era, Ramones, Minor Threat, Bad Religion, Descendents, Misfits, Dead Kennedys, The Vandals, No Use for a Name...etc..just to name a small few of the many greats, some who have broken up and some who are still around, but there's just something about NOFX...They will always and forever be my favorite punk band of all time.
Thanks Fat Mike, El Hefe, Melvin and Smelly for the decades of immeasurable artistry in punk rawk music. Your tunes have been with me pretty much my whole life, traveling through ups and downs and all-arounds, and I can't thank you all enough for shaping me into who I am today. Peace.
It's nice to see fat Mike passionate about something and so focused.
he's the one dude that probably has eaten more LSD than me in his lifetime. i can't focus like that, at all. 😂 and i sold that shit for 10 yeears
@@ghost_to_a_ghost I haven’t dropped acid since 2002, it was the best trip I ever had though- to be young and free again.................
@@ghost_to_a_ghost uh what? Mike hates psychedelics lol not sure where you heard that
@@psychotropictraveler514 ahhh I was just figuring, what with songs like "Kids Of the K-Hole" among others. if I'm wrong, I'm wrong oopsieee! don't care lol
@@ghost_to_a_ghost ketamine is actually a Disassociate, not a psychedelic (contrary to popular belief) not trying to be a smartass, just saying lol.
This interview is so fucking awesome. Austin was so fabulous. Blowing bubbles during the sets. So glad to be able to give Mike a Rubber Chicken at the end.
You and Mike together is aweseom, Finn. Good stuff.
It's really cool that the punk museum is incorporating all parts of punk. I hope that GG Allin gets a spot in the punk hall too. Maybe the restroom? He'd probably find that hilarious if he weren't busy beating up and throwing his feces at Satan.
I also think in hindsight it was stupid for Fat Mike to make those comments, but he was trying to be edgy and part of his entertainer persona. After all, this is the guy who sometimes wears a dress on stage with his otherwise manly image. I'm sure worse things have been said about her by more consequential people than a fellow frontman. Also also, Hayley telling someone what is or isn't "punk" is kind of ironic, since a lot of punk fans don't consider her music punk at all. If I were Hayley, I'd just let it go. If Taylor Swift can forgive Kanye, Hayley should forgive Fat Mike and move on.
Fat Mike's a legend! The one punk band who never started to suck
I heard they suck live
I heard they suck live, though
Thanks for the Interview. Has not heard about the Museum. If i get the chance to visit Vegas, i will definitely visit
Fat Mike just made Vegas appealing to me. Holy fuck this sounds like an amazing place. I will probably cry like a baby when I see Tony Sly
His alpine white Les Paul Custom guitar should be in a display. Can't hope for it being in the jam room, since it's so expensive
“It’s a sketchy spot. You can’t trust anyone. And i think it’s the perfect spot.” Love it. Great interview, Finn. Mike seems like he’s in a great place. Life is good. Love y’all
I can't find any D.C tour dates. And I am SO stoked to see the museum!
Such a great interview!!
Great interview dude! Really enjoyed it
Hey no joke I'm an old California punk was part of the scene in the Inland Empire now in my 50s am a big part of the punk rock scene in South East Asia. I helped run punk rock Bangkok now moving to Cambodia living in Vietnam. I'm wondering how I submit copies of my flyers or T shirts from my friends here to the museum? Really loved this interview I'm also working on getting more punk bands over here. There is a metal bar in Siem Reap Cambodia I want to get Liquid Death over here as well. Man great interview met Fat Mike at the Key Club great guy at the warped tour party. Punk rock has saved my life more times than I can count.
Great video. Thanks Finn.
Amazing interview, personal favorite so far.
Nice to see Mike still sober (for the most part). Just listened to So Long and Thank for All The Shoes on my way home from work tonight. Cool video.
And they are playing the entirety of it in San Diego next weekend!!
So Cool!!! Looking forward to seeing what they have put together!!!
this is great, thanks for posting!
Thanks so much for this interview Finn. Mike has such an amazing perspective here!
Fantastic interview of one of the most revered figures in Punk. He's legendary. Love this man! Hope I get to meet him one day!
Nofx was my first concert at 13, and i sure as shit cant wait to see them at their last. Flying to Orlando for that shit!
You are a legend Mike, love you so much.
Absolute fucking legend.
NOFX is a pillar of my youth and will be iconic til the end of time
They’re awesome
Never thought you two would be so great together. I’ve like you both for different reason but man you guys play off each other well. Way to go Finn.
when people who are amazing at their craft talk about the things that they love, it makes me happy. Mike is always so straight with his approach to history and information. great interview
Im gonna be in vegas in August and i really wanna find time to go the museum. As one of those dnd playing dorky ass misfits, punk has meant so much to me growing up and seeing the history of it first hand would mean the world to me.
Awesome interview!
Thanks for this interview Finn.
That reference to 60% hit me in the feels. I grew up on Wolves in Wolves’ Clothing. Great interview Finn, very insightful.
you can see his lip tremble, like he’s nervous it’s 100% now bc there’s nothing to hide behind, as if the 60% was a front for insecurity all this time
We were there last weekend. I loved every second of it. So much amazing history in the space. Was also cool to see so much represented. I was a happy campernin that space
I took a pause at 6:30 to write this. I love the fact you have your priorities in order, listing the bus ticket first. A beautiful piece of history attached to something so small
This Convo brought me to tears. Fat Mike is an absolute inspiration.
I went to the Austin shows. It was bittersweet. Such a good time.
This felt likes acquaintances/friends talking rather than combative - Mike took the time to get to know Finn and it's nice - everybody is chill, things are positive and moving at a healthy pace towards a "see you around/it's your turn to step up" rather than just "goodbye" - it's a relay race and next prolific version of a punk band is up!
I live right around the corner from the punk rock museum! Place was sick!
Something so satisfying listening to Mike to interviews. The NOFX audio book was great too
one of the best interviews you have ever done. very touchy at the end, hard to watch but god damn what a great interview!
Nofx definitely brings joy to people for more then one night! Mind you it's from the past but turning on different NOFX albums bring me back to specific years in my life, It's like a time machine that brings me right back into the nostalgic feels
Great interview. Mike through the ages has remained consistent and walked the walk and the PRM is his tour de force that will remain here decades after we are all gone. what a legacy.
In Japan, good place to look for punk items is to see if the Pumpkin Club in Yokosuka still exists, or Harajuku proper, may have some relics of its past. Also Gas Panic in Roppungi (Tokyo).
Fantastic interview 👏
Holy shit! I'm like 99.9% sure the Paramore NOFX beef happened in Cleveland OH. I was there and remember the joke. Fucking nutty. It was a rough joke but being there it really wasn't a thing. It was just Fat Mike being Fat Mike. He also cracked jokes on other bands and poked fun at an audience member for bringing there young kid to a NOFX show. It was all in good fun. Bummer to hear that's cause such strife for all involved all these years later.
Great interview, as always. The Punk Rock Museum is on the bucket list now for sure now. Thanks Finn
Hayley WIlliams in an uptight twat. In the same interview where she bashes Fat Mike for saying something "creepy" about her when she was 19 she also blasts "crusty old men" and makes ageist and misadristic comments in the same sentence. She's no Mother Theresa like she pretends to be and just comes across as an empty virtue-signaling clout chaser.
Very nice video Finn! Great interview.
I hope to see Speckneck merch in the Punk Rock Museum sometime
Amazing interview! The heroditus of punk rock, none better to be the unofficial historian of the vast landscape that is punk.
Great interview, and perfect timing, as Fat Mike has a lot to talk about, people have a lot of questions that were answered, and the haters are in full force making predictions and trying to put anything positive down, now they can hear what’s being done from his own mouth. 🙋♂️
It might have originally been my idea for Fat Mike and Punk Rock MBA to appear on a podcast together. I am glad if they are now friends. This brings me back to wearing my NOFX t-shirt in high school back in the 2000s, and the adults having no idea why I wanted to buy it so much.
Also love seeing Fat mike be open about what he wants to do in life and talk about wanting to show people happiness is indeed right in front of them! Fat mike is the punk rock Buddha
Just hearing this list of items they managed to get and hearing him describe them is making me so excited to go
I've got to go there! Sounds like an awesome experience.
You two are a great team
Fucking love Mike...the most real dude that has been misunderstood his entire career. Would love to just hang and be apart of a conversation like this...
this video just inspired my next vacation. i have such a great passion for music and this sounds wayyyy better then going to the rock n roll hall of fame
Doing great PR for the museum Mike. Really want to come check it out!
Can’t wait to see the final shows.
Miami was fantastic!
The Jam room sounds awesome.
More museums should be more hands on!
I was at the Austin shows last weekend, can confirm Mike was crying. I think he really is done.
This is so good. Important interview. Wow
This interview has changed SO much of my (self created) view of the public image Mike has offered of himself for decades. Great job on the interview Fin! Finn? What the fuck ever.
And I wanna get to the museum to see Rob Wright's bass...
Jesus that was an awesome interview Finn!!!!!
Thank you!
I wasn't allowed to see NOFX as a 14 year old in 2001. My sole-favourite band from 12-18 years old - are the reason I play guitar to this day and made the friends I had. While most of them have moved on and 'grown up' I'm looking forward to finally NOT missing out my first and last NOFX show, and showing up solo in Leeds later this month
That's awesome, I've seen them twice and I'm about to see them the end of next month. Definitely an entertaining fun set everytime.
Those people that "grew up" were the posers. I'm still a weirdo at 29
Solo gigs are great imo. Nobdy else to worry about or wait around for. Good for you! So excited for Leeds! Support is awesome too! Might see you there (but neither of us will know XD
@@hannahmitchell87 support is great! Im especially excited for Lagwagon. I'll be the one there bright and early and at the front!
@@krag3r Have a great 1st & last 🥰 see ya in the pit 😉
My dad was a bass player for Iron Cross and he has a jacket that’s in the museum and he donated a bunch of stuff. I live on the other side of the country so I haven’t been able to go, but I’ve heard it’s really cool.
Looking forward to the San Diego show. You guys better not suck this time!!
47:41 I paused and then went on a Codefendants binge for 2 hours. This is when Finn finally passed my punk check and wasn't aware of the rest of the release, along with the visual. It is the most punk thing I have ever seen.
Intresting interview!
Take away, Punk Rock Museum is better than expected! Hell yeah!
You changed my life mike.
Seeing them in Orlando this weekend and so excited
Happy you mentioned Indonesia. I started listening to Punk in Indonesia in the lates 90s. I had a punk band too. We used to buy pirated tapes of NOFX and Rancid, and go to a place called Block M, and underground market and buy spike bracelets and rancid shirts.
Id wanna give Fat Mike a hug if i see him,thank you for making my teen years
Asked all the right questions during this interview man. Fucking great to watch!
This is great! I’m predicting that NOFX will have a Vegas residency after their farewell tour.