Irrational Logic and Mentalism | Daniel Harel | TEDxWhiteCity
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- čas přidán 18. 11. 2015
- How does he do it? Daniel Harel has been practicing and performing Mind-reading shows for over a decade. For the first time Daniel reveals how he does it and how he invents new ideas using a secret method that even you can apply to your life!
Daniel Harel is considered a pioneer in the world of deductive mind reading, or what is also known as mentalism. As a performer and creator Daniel has developed a unique method called Deductive Mind-Reading, which is based on his keen ability to draw incredible conclusions from the subtlest of hints. Daniel has special insight on how we are still conned, our needs are manipulated, false hopes are given and our money is taken from us, even in today’s real-time information based society.
This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at ted.com/tedx
He's basically reading mental impressions popping up in his mind and the best way to get clarity is for the girl to "let go", thus he diverts her attention, so he's hitting 2-birds with 1-stone.
"Yes" Jonathan Charles, Derren IS way ahead of the game because Derren planned his process ahead, thus he learned Hypnosis, which enhances your mentality, AND he just ran with it, thus learning from so many mistakes, buy yet exceeding in his success on his end results!
Hm, let me think:
- problem: I need money
- what everybody else do? work hard to earn it
- what would be a crazy idea to get money? just get it out of thin ear
- now, how can it be possibly done? combine the previous answers: let's work to make money out of thin air. Oh, that's how the idea to sell canned high quality air was born :D
Daaaaaamn daniel.Back again with the mentalism vans!
"Think irrationally" That is his technique for how clears his mind of static thoughts that interfere with his perceptions of what he is trying to read from the other person's thoughts.
.... relax ........ receive ....
Amazing Daniel!
His questions to her between guessing letters started, "Are you..." and "Oh, did you..." Notice it sounds like he's saying the letter "R" and "O". So, he's looking at her expression and feeling her hand reacting to those letters. When she hears the start of that sentence, she doesn't know yet that the "R" sound is going to end up being the word "are" in a sentence, so if that's the right letter she will react in some way.
@@johnrambo3439 It is completely wrong - you could never perform on stage hoping to be able to do this kind of thing. It's a trick, to make you think he's doing that kind of thing.
@@DangerfieldChris 100% right. As a mentalist and a magician by love ad hobby for more than 20+ years, I completely support your statement. Lying without a disclaimer that all it's part of the show, it's a disservice.
@@you_dont_wanna_know1969 I am kind of impressed the way people believe the whole NLP thing has found its way into the general public's 'understanding' of mentalism. Sure, you can try the occasional suggestion, but you're going to need an out, and you'll probably use it every time.
@@DangerfieldChris I give a lot of thought to the moral aspect of "lying" when performing. What isn't lying for a magician or a mentalist?! Even a french drop would be a lie through someone's hands, in a strict sense.
With mentalism gets even more difficult to draw the line. Everything can get much more blurry: it does uses a lot of trickery. It does uses a lot of outs and safety nets, for the well prepared mentalists. But at the same time, it also could use a tiny bit of NLP, timings, micro expressions, cold reading, deductionism, even cumberlandism, for a lack of a better word (I hope I don't rise eyebrows with my last statement).
So it becomes very hard for the spectator to differentiate where Reality stops, and trickery kicks in. It is the mix of all of the above, and so much more, that can create an unforgettable experience, not only for the spectator, but for the mind reader as well. All of this, without mentioning the paranormal and metaphysical aspects, that some performers do believe, and live by.
Bottom line is: people should approach mentalism as watching a fiction movie. Beautiful. Georgeous. Impressive. But nevertheless, fiction at its most deepest core, despite there might be or not, some science and techniques behind an effect, helping out for a greater hit of wonder.
Interesting. At first I was annoyed that he didn't explain some of his tricks. The PIN I understood, the name of the cat I did not. And then it struck me. He explains in the video why he isn't going to tell us the specifics of how it's done. Think back to three points.
How
This is like Patrick Jane. 😆😆
Martin Zen Yes ! Someone who watchs mentalist like me hahaha
Thank you, it helped me too.
I feel so disconnected from his limitations and the task performed that I took nothing away from this performance, and I'm not convinced that this isn't staged. He explained a thought process for being original; that's about it.
That was all about, and you nailed it: a content about how to be original. About the performance, I can assure you, that they were not stooges. What I can not assure you, is that he achieved it, the way he tries to sell he did it (by body language, tone of voice, her nails, or even a non existing cat hair that he portrayed to hold in his hand). All of that was just an artistic deceptive presentation, with his limations, of course, as any other human being.
if u wanna understand u will. its called NLP.
so, what is the most crazy, absurd way to make people pay me for doing nothing?
Make them think doing nothing is the hardest and most needed job in the world.
Announce that you're making prostitution legal, but NOT EXACTLY under that ILLEGAL TITLE, thus making it 100% legit and NOT DEMEANING towards women who are afraid of shitting on their own reputation!
(I am not revealing that perfect kept secret....but IF you're a "mentalist", there's a very good chance that you ALREADY know how).
REMEMBER, EVERYTHING IS POSSIBLE........SO STEP OUT OF 'YOUR BOX"!!!
Qi Huna nice that's awesome
cryptocurrency.
by doing nothing you're doing something so anyways it would be a paradox
Bank's hate him. Watch to find out why
Wow
First thing I thought about when I saw this video was: Sherlock Holmes.
It’s a magic trick, people.
I know a bit about mentalism but HOW DOES HE KNOW THE NUMBER like in the beginning with the girl ?
I’m guessing there was probably pre show preparation. There’s simply no way to meet someone for the first time and do what he did. What is he not showing us?
This is what Derren Brown does. And he's been doing it on TV since around 2000. When this guy was likely a young kid.
He just stalked the girl on Instagram.
Oh, I really couldn't put my finger on his accent until they said Israel.
so so
Now let me see....I wonder how he got the girls PIN CODE......? Oh of course I know because I'm a mentalist.... two letters come to mind..... the letters P and the leter S..... now how did he get the other information..... thats funny ...dajavu..... I'm getting to letters come to mind....the first one is P the second is....S .... if you know what I'm on about your probably a mentalist.....if not keep guessing .... Mystic Mark The Mentalist & Psychological Magician.
His method is not unique.
The problem with most mentalists like this is that they trade one lie such as I am psychic for another I am reading your body language. The truth is it's magic. It should be performed so well that you don't need to lie to your audience.
Very well executed, and well acted up lies in a performance, can enhance the affect and effect on the audience tremendously. I'm all about lying the whole nine yards, with the purpose of hitting the hardest way possible with wonder and awe. But, here's my huge difference: I AWAYS, before or even after performing something, state clearly, that EVERYTHING they're about to see or hear from my mentalism act, it's merely an illusion and fake, and merely for the purposes of entertainment. That being said, I proceed with their permission, and star my parade of lies. It hits super hard, they know it's fake, and yet, they still love it. As Penn Gillette once said: magicians are the most honest liers. They tell you in advance they're about to lie to you, and they do. The issue comes when you try to sell something as real when is not, whitout clarifying it's all fake and part of your show. That falls even into a moral aspect that defrauds society slowly.
What’s he’s describing is not thinking “irrationally”, it’s simply thinking creatively to come up with unique solutions.
I get what he was going for but I feel he’s not conveying it in a useful way.
Have we become such an intellectually poor society that we need to have someone at TEDx explain us what thinking outside the box is about - while giving it a new name ("irrational logic")? In addition, the description of the video talks about a "secret method". How utterly sad.
Couldn't say it better, however , to think outside of any imaginary box you probably need an imaginary box of something that you do know what's included in it, else you couldn't think outside of it right? So basicaly unless you don't get up to full speed on the included things, you'll end up inside, doing the oposite thing. So what you need to do now is what you always have been doing, learn, adapt, overcome.
No we were never that smart to begin with
Cynicism must have hit you like a bus.
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the first girls voice control was so bad u could tell the number 1 and 3 were the ones she was thinking of, watching the rest niw :/
paid them all
he invited the same woman up on stage in 2 different outfits ;) that's what he meant by the most absurd solution
I'm not sure what the purpose of this TedTalk is. Most of what he says about mentalism isn't true and the methods he talks about have little to do with body language or sherlock holmes.
It was certainly an entertaining magic show but there was little to no truthful or authentic content.
he shared a mindset
Not really. His "mindset" was bogus, and had nothing to do with the tricks (which is what he was suggesting).
Actually, this whole "show" was just about him to show how cool he is now, after 12 years of magic tricks and a few Sherlock movies.
+TEDx TALKS PLEASE PLEASE REMOVE this content! The description, IMO, is grossly misleading: the video reveals nothing about how he knows the information he claims to know and he uses no independent, valid means of verification. How low will TED go?
Yeah, this was terrible at all.... Evey beginner magician can do ted talk now.
He did reveal how he did it, by thinking irrationally, if you wanted a video on how to be a mentalist you're looking in the wrong place
Hehe
she cute af tho
That looks like "hot reading."
He searched on social media for people that were
talking about attending the event, learned a bunch
about them (too easy because you guys don't shut
your yapping about your personal lives on the web),
and then just looked for the faces even before going
up into the stage. Notice that the cat lady never
volunteered.
her pin is 1379 lol
Explain
randy, the four corners on the numerical keypad are 1379. I am guessing that XGN Pizza thinks she chose those because it is an easy shape for her to "draw" when punching in her PIN... she admitted that the first two digits were 1 and 3 .... I bet XGN Pizza has a PIN based on a shape also, like 2486 or 9731...
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Wow, How can u tell?
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i guess thats why women are winning so hard right now
It's only called mentalism because you're calling it that. It's arbitrary and therefore meaningless to me.
Peter McGill you're entire life is arbitrary and meaningless to 99.999999% of all the people in the world...including your comment about this.
I was the 500th like
Kamden Cosgrove congrats!
Sorry, Derren Brown has been doing this way better and for far longer.
Does it make you feel better demoting another person? Your statement added zero value. Jonathan, I wrote this to hopefully, allow you to see yourself
Sorry, next time I'll ask for your approval before stating an opinion.
+Jonathan Charles The thing is every magician and mentalist has learned techniques from another person and built upon those techniques. The greatest magicians and mentalists who have ever lived didn't make up all their stuff.
I agree completely. But I think my statement only strengthens your logic - This guy is doing fairly unimpressive things, compared to someone who has been doing it longer. He hasn't built upon anything.
Jonathan knows a little something about mentalism and the method this guy is actually using. He is right that Derren Brown has been doing the same thing for years: Disguising traditional mentalism techniques and methods as body-language reading, psychology, etc. It's all just an act, at Derren's act is fantastic.
People incognito on the internet w w w whhaaaat???!! I've never seen a rumba vacuum other than the one a cat rides on youtube and the one in Breaking Bad. Is the audience from some country that has restricted access to the internet. This monotone performance was worse than the advise he gave. Booooo!
Something seems very fake about this act.
His delivery of material is very mediocre, for a TED event at least, but more than that, there's nothing unique about his style of mentalism, most modern mentalists combine multiple techniques and showmanship, and there's nothing original about his "irrational logic" method, it's called brainstorming in management and problem solving in general and while brainstorming is usually done in a group, it works just as well individually.
He's a fake. I could tell from his microexpressions.
Jack Sweet tell me which microexpression, and I will tell you why you are wrong
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Why ?
Man, I am so sorry to tell ya, but this performance should have been muuuuch more structured and overthinked. Its really terrible to look. While you are a sympathic guy and the Routines in basic are cool, your performance is really weak and makes it hard to look. First, Magic/mentalism isnt about you, its about the magic that the other person experiences with you. Second, train your acting skillz in that specific moments a little bit, record yourself and ask yourself, if you would believe yourself? Third, for every mentalist or fan of him, its cristal clear which man you try to imitate here. Fourth, maybe its me, but what did the viewer of this talk now knew that he didnt knew before, what did he learned...? All in all that means, your own stage personality hasnt developed enough and you should think more about the spectators than yourself, in my unimportand oppinion.
TED turned into a freak show
I don't trust him
They behaved like actors
This is baloney.
please don't believe, be realistic
Soooooooo staged..
No it wasn't. Watch the video and he explains it very well. Plus, it's not a secret.
No... he's not doing what he says he's doing. There was no "deduction" in his act at all. It wasn't staged, but he's using another, very typical, mentalism method.
Heather Wahlquist he explaims what he is doing very well? we didnt watch the same video. and he isnt trying to make you know how he does it or he would be out of a job
David Law well...you seem to be so sure of "deduction"...how do you know it's not one?
David Law and what is that typical mentalism method called?
stooges
+Uncle Ho He most likely did not use Stooges, but rather he did what is called "Preshow" work...I won't really say more about that.
Mark, so youre saying it's fake. I thought he actually had real talent.
EmXtraMoney He does have talent. What he doesn't have is "powers". So, no it's not "fake" ...any more than autotune to give a great performance is a "fake" performance.
Mark Mason well i dont know what "preshow" is but it implies that he got some information ahead of time. Is this so?
EmXtraMoney, that's a term used by magicians...so I'm not inclined to explain it.
Again, he has talents...but not psychic powers.
this talk is lacking context
What a waste of time. It is always sad to see how easily people are manipulated and stupefied. Oi
I don't mind secrets, only lies. he doesn't have to tell how he does it, but i despise him for claiming he reads "microexpression" without a disclaimer at the end. I don't know how he did most of it, but google is my friend and once i do know, i'll spread the knowledge far and wide to destroy the livelyhood of these kind of charlattan...
also promoting irrationallity should be sufficient to get kicked out of ted talks.
Been 6 months, safe to assume you didn`t figure it out
WingerSupreme lol, you make it sound like i've been searching for 6 month. i looked for 15 minutes, realised most tutorial are garbage, then got bored and got on with my life... if i ever meet him i'll find a way to make his life crappier than it allready is, but until then i'll just ignore his existance, too much effort.
Because destroying someone who is a performer is more joy to you then the actual entertainment. ...spend your next fifteen minutes looking for a life coach or better yet a psychologist. Your passions are disturbingly misplaced.