THIS IS WHY BISON IS TOP 5 CHARACTERS IN THE GAME
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 2. 07. 2024
- Angrybird talks about the M. Bison vs. Ken/Akuma matchups in this season of Street Fighter 6. Enjoy an in-depth discussion and an exciting first-to-5 match! Don't miss out on expert insights and top-tier gameplay!
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FGC discourse will make you believe there are more than 5 characters in top 5
Everyone knows there are 16 characters in the top 5 for SF6 đ
True. But Angrybird is spitting facts. Bison is crazy plus, has a monster tool to punish fireballs, great set play, double knee is so safe because of the pushback, has one of the fastest (if not the fastest drive rush), and if you watch Kakeru's arial play then you can imagine all the untapped potential. Bison is really good.
@@michaelcarrig627donât say this on Reddit everyone will call you a scrub and ask why your 4f normal doesnât reach 2 feet straight out.
@@sm7085 Zangief went from on of the worst to "best in the game." Whose deciding these things?
After Bison has been out for a while they'll "decide" that he's b tier cuz reasons.
@@michaelcarrig627 He seems really strong so far. Currently I find him a tougher matchup than Akuma but heâs not been out long yet. Punk took CEO with Akuma though, which is maybe not surprising when you give a character with that fast a walk speed to a player with such good footsies.
Bison has no reversal but his amazing drive rush, normals, damage and aerial game are oppressive. And unlike Akuma, even if you catch a break, the round is far from over.
All in all though S2 is way more balanced than S1 and so far there doesnât seem to be as big a gap between the tiers. Weâll know more by EVO though for sure.
you are asking why stand hp is plus but it is 19 frame start up. thatâs why itâs plus
And is only super cancelable.
Exactly. The button would be useless if it wasn't plus. I feel like the slow startup + frame advantage create great balance. I love the strategic implications of having such high risk\high reward button.
@@joshuaellis3295 a high risk, high reward normal would be like akuma's stHK which is very unsafe on crouching opponents and has a 13 frame startup. 19-frame startup in neutral is still strong if you have range and are always plus on block.
19f doesn't matter if it has insane range. Its very hard to outpoke Dictator's s.hp if he space it correctly. Just think about Dhalsim's long range normals, they are slow af and is trash in close range but at a certain distance they are godlike. Dictator pros are going to space their s.hp correctly. Not to mention there's the insane 2mk with insane range and knee press to control neutral.
Imo his s.hp is fine its his other tools that his opponents has to respect and that makes his s.hp more potent.
the range tho, if it was negative but not punishable itâd still be good because of the range but instead youâd have to space it properly to get the real value out of it
THANK YOU AB!!!!! Thats all i needed, A pro player to confirm to me that i wasn't trash playing Akuma and losing 8/10 Bison matches. This match up is so stupid how plus he and his damage to Akuma needs a serious nerf.
Angrybird! The best Ken
Lets be honest chat ... Even if what he says is true, are we really going to feel bad for Akuma or Ken, for any reason at all?
The shoto hate is unreal
It's not about feeling bad for any individual character, it's about feeling bad players in general. Not character specific ones. Perhaps there are characters who strongest against bison? Please let me know, at least I can find comfort in that
@@YunisRajab Nah I like Ryu. đ
definitely feeling bad for akuma, bison does more damage and is mostly plus but still has normal HP
I know I'll eventually get better at this matchup but I didn't have so much trouble with Akuma. I already played more matches against Bison than all my total matches against Lily since the release date lol
I havenât played a single bison since I started playing again a week after he released
@@MrCrimsonftw wow really? I'm in Diamond and I fight 90% Bison
@@woof9408 Iâm plat 5 Iâve been fighting everyone but him. I was shocked
@@MrCrimsonftw Hope you never have to lol
@@woof9408 Iâm hearing heâs a menace
I didnât face that many Akumaâs when he first released but faced M.Bison 13 ranked matches in a row đđđ
All I face online are Akumaâs and Bisonâs.
Diamond an above is all akuma an bison
Really? The first week of akuma he was literally the only character I would see
lol what ? I played Akuma and Bison to master and that's like 70 percent of what I fought , both times.
@@abysswalker3267 more M.Bisonâs tho đ€Łđ€Łđ€Ł
Yes angry bird, missed seeing videos from you and your Ken. đ„
What I find annoying about Bison is the crmp range, the pure safety on block of just about everything except OD scissors, and the crazy whiff recovery he got.
The way you play this character, masterful.
I totally agree with you. Heâs also a Shoto killer always has been most likely always will be.
2:47 "WHAT?"
Yeah, I had the same reaction.
Never seen the game freeze like that before.
I thought CZcams was glitching
Comments are crazy here lol. It's simple - bison is slightly op in 2 areas. His st.hp being plus with huge range. The startup makes no difference if there is no button will reach it during start up. But fine, let him keep that tool since his defense is kind of weak. The main nerf needed is to the scissor kick. Players should have to think about its spacing. The push back is to far. Reduce the pushback on the scissor kick and hes balanced.
If the scissor kick was a charge move, id say leave as is. But an input motion makes it dummy proof. Unfortunately because of stupid modern controls there is only room for 2 charge moves
I play bison and would be totally fine with a scissor kick nerf
I also agree with Angrybird about OD Psycho Crusher. If heâs doing a YOLO gap-closer and I block it, and itâs not punishable, he should at least be in throw range. It makes no sense that heâs outside of throw range when you block that move.
As someone who mained Bison in SF4...I would be fine if scissor became charge again
@aeparaflux totally agree bro, but sadly it can't due to modern controls. Charge characters can only have 2 charge moves
LOL noobs, you can already see bison players NOT using scissor kicks in topanga and other asian tournaments because he DOES have to space it. There is even a video of someone showing a punish with EVERY CHARACTER if you mess up his spacing by just walking FORWARDS OR BACKWARDS.
The AngryDictator has spoken
Bigbird joga com o M.Bison no nĂvel tĂŁo alto. IncrĂvel oque vocĂȘ faz com esse personagem!
You got this, you make us Kenners proud đ
Let me guess. Ken is bottom 5.
its funny bison is silly but its hard to feel any sympathy for ken players lol
Nah. Even Angry would agree Ken is top 3
Akuma was amazing until he loses too apparently. Just so much whining
@@shingobingo490Akumaâs hp is the problem with Bison. Other than that I think theyâll pretty close
Theyâre *
The recovery frames of shp are also a big factor 17 recovery frames for that long of a range button is strong.
I hate how street fighter content creators put a discussion kind of title then the video is just 30 minutes of them playing the game lol
The discussion is during and at the end of the match
Moment I played bison after he dropped and how much Psycho Mine affected Neutral in Bisons favor, instantly i knew this character is pay to win. And he's dummy fun for how straightfoward the gameplan for him is
Bison with multiple set up
The man throws another fireball at 4:03 then gets surprised that an ex charge move specifically against it beats it. "I did it on purpose" - good, now you know to not do that.
He didnât lab the character, he didnât purchase the character yet and he already saying he is top tier lol , and plz donât ask about why he has that and that we donât ask why ken has this bullshit free meterles corner carry, side switch and full screen safe drive rush with hadoken and we donât ask why rashid lvl 2 carry players who played him and so onâŠ.. and wait for terry he will make us forget about bison fast
Heâs top 10 for sure, if you understand the core fundamentals of sf6 youâll know what differentiates a low tier and a top tier fairly quickly.
â@@Mack9077conventional wisdom used to hold that the most consistent thing separating the top tiers from the rest of the cast was whether or not they had an OD reversal...and Bison seems to throw that one out the window.
I also think Bison is incredibly strong and kinda feel like he's overturned but "you can just tell" is a pretty weak way to make your case.
Hi.. really curious.. what is corner carry? Side switch?
@@Mack9077 You do know there are like 20 characters in this game? If he's in top 10 that could mean he's still mid tier LUL.
@@dddaaa6965 lol right
bison's heavy punch is a Blue cancelable not red(training mode). but it cancels into all 3 supers. it's crazy. usually most characters having such normals only cancels to lvl3/2 but not all 3.
Unblayable.
This is a known and widely reported issue: When your opponent highlights M. Bison on the character select screen, Akuma is automatically deleted from the game and can't be played.
What?â@@noobsaibot7108
GUYS!
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@@JackCrossSama GUYS LUKE LUKE WHY ARE BISON HEAVY đ ±LUS?
Top tier or Mid tier I'll still use Bison. He's one of my characters I'll always use.
Heâs top 10 imo but time will tell
@@Mack9077 oh he's higher than top 10
@@AnthonyBottari I donât disagree, just leaving room for speculation
@@Mack9077 huh
@@AnthonyBottari your saying heâs top 5 and Iâm saying I agree with you but I said top 10 to leave room for speculation
Ken has this but Bison has this!
It's rough, I struggle playing as every shoto against him except Luke.
Bison looks fun hehe. Missed ur ken vids angrybird
Senpai Angrybird, at 4:30, was that an intentional counterhit setup ?
he probably dropped the combo and counter hit confirmed off bigbird mashing
@@IAMTHESLIME_I think it was a setup because that normally doesnât combo. Plus it was done off of a perfect parry where there is damage scaling.
4:03 - bro Kenâs FB hurtbox is ridiculous. Heâs like the only non-zoner shoto, because he canât effectively play the FB/DP game like Guile, Akuma, Ryu, Juri, etc.
And it was beaten by a charged ex move specifically designed to beat fireballs....
@@maganvelemeny8843 yeah, but I donât expect the same degree of usage as Akuma. Dictator has a very unique tool set, not as brain dead easy as Akuma. In general too, the game is very zoner-unfriendly. Guile is top 5, but his usage rate is way below.
@@workoutfanatic7873 Yeah ken is so weak! There is nothing he does to redeem his fireball being worse than the other shotos, that must be why so many people play him still!
@@dddaaa6965 he canât zone. Are you disputing that? Show me any replays of a zoner Ken - they donât exist except at rookie level đ. He canât even zone Gief.
@@dddaaa6965 itâs not about Ken being weak, heâs top 7, top 1 for me lol. Itâs the fact that Ken is a SHOTO, which is a traditional archetype. Shotos are supposed to have zoning prowess, at least a bit. Ken doesnât have that privilege, so yes, Capcom made him a SHOTO who canât zone - like at all, unless weâre talking full screen, or OD meaty - but thatâs not really zoning, is it?
Akuma's walk speed alone means he has no 7-3 match-ups - let alone his other tools.
Best top tier Ken,guile,Cammy,ryu,Ed,rashid,juri,Deejay,blanka,luke while Akuma and m bison still new recent releases
That's why Akuma must have jump back and jump forwards with two air fireballs and invincibility teleport and raging demon should be unstoppable upon punch, kick or jump as minimum buffs.
2:47 the most powerful DI ever executed
6:00 đ đŠ>đŠ
Good. Its about damn time Akuma gets knocked down a notch or 2
i hear the noises of dinner time
We really need a guide againts Bison
"The shitty neutral jump" đ
23:12 "trash style against this guy" Haha, fighting Bison really forces you play like a dummy sometimes in order to fight him.
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akuma can def handle bison you just gotta play crazy and smart style đđ trust me
how can you play on the middle east servers?
So strong AB đ
I wouldnât say heâs top tier but at absolute worst heâs still at A tier. Bison has really good buttons, can 2-touch almost everyone in the roster and has arguably the best mobility in the game
@lennydickson8845 Hello, please, what are the 5 best characters in the first season? And the five best of the current (second season)?? BE SINCERE
Characters with HP plus, Zangief, Jp, Ryu, AKI, Manom, Cammy, Guile, you are the one of the best but you want they nerf characters in zones that they dont need to
Ryu is -2
If you can't feel how unfair bison is, you are willfully ignoring it. From how plus he is on moves, to the insane damage. This character will be nerfed. There's no way he won't be. I just hope it comes sooner than later
His controller sounds like a machine gun
These comments are hilarious. Yâall probably the same people swearing up and down JP was mid tier in season 1 and everyone just needed to git gud.
Brother, nobody thought JP was mid tier.
JP still mid tier. Matter fact, he's bottom 2
â@@hypoxxi5505Dumb
â@@hypoxxi5505says the JP main
@@sm7085 100%, outside of maybe the first week or two at launch. The debate was whether he was was merely top 3 strong but 'fair' or S+++ tier broken OP. It was obviously the former (though toned down now) and not the latter. Now Bison is the s2 version.
Itâs crazy that they released akuma and bison in a row and gave Jamie almost nothingâŠ.
> gave Jamie almost nothingâŠ.
Are you drunk (as Jamie mains, we often are I guess)? Please look at the most recent patch notes: Jamie was blessed with amazing changes. Difficulties playing him are definitely our own skill issues now and not a problem with the character.
I agree bisons HP is strong but I donât know how you can really say itâs the strongest in the game as a Ken main. His HP is objectively stronger lmao
I main aki, Kimberly, and E.Honda
There is like half roster in top 5 characters since release let me name them (luke,ken, akuma,deejay chun-li,bison, blanka,cammy, juri,rashid,JP, ed and even kimberly,marisa and Guile at one point) oh shit how im i going to play this broken game ..
Its hilarious hearing him call bisons moves stupid...when he plays ken lmao
Bison always beats shotos. In my opinion, the ex psycho crusher is very cheap. It's safe and plus on burnout. That move is cheap
Kimberly has plus 2 hk 22:00
so?
@@gameclips5734 he was asking if anyone has a plus heavy button
@@kenzobeast oh at 22:00, found it
that has no range and can only be used after either a jumpin or after certain meaty setups not comparable to bisons st hp
Cammy and Gief also have + on block heavies. Of course those can only be used up-close though.
Hey champ. đ
bros laughing at the absurdity of m. bison like how people laugh at elden ring bosses
Itâs funny because other pros have said Akuma vs Bison is an easy match up for Akuma đ.
Isnt cammy cr.hp +1?
Yeah not super cancellable tho. Can cancel into level 1 etc if they DI verse Bison. At least at their level
Is this bird man a gamer
He says bison beats akuma air fire ball is that cus of ex psycho crusher?
heavy and plus = akuma st hk +3, Jp st hk +2...
Crying over a 19frame startup heavypunch lol
Bisonâs St.HP isnât brokenâŠthatâs a whole 19 frames of startup to only be +1 đ§ Plus he doesnât have any wake-up options besides superâŠI donât see what everyoneâs complaining about
The startup frames are irrelevant with the crazy range it has
@@YunisRajabexactly if youre not in range to react to or whiff punish bison can just bully you lol
Bro has no defence I agree Nara ppl be complaining about bs
My guy pretending heâs looking at phone or eating but heâs doing a line on the table
Lol Iâm jk
Manonâs back HP is plus
I despise Manon
people relax. MB has to have something going for him if I see everyone popping Anti Bison Guides on my CZcams recommended. This is natural reaction against a new character with some shit you dunno how to deal with. Youâd react the same way.
Yea i agree hes strong but he isnt broken by any means the casual audience has to stop complaining when they aren't even playing high level to even say nerf this character
@@Ryuma103desires I feel like Bison just sits at the top of A tier. He is definitely above average but he isnt the most OP character by any means. I feel like people just havent gotten used to his gimmicks and dont know how to punish him. People will get used to him with time
@@unforgiven3035 like you said, people always complain before they've even learnt anything about playing against the character
@@unforgiven3035 yea it's a different play style people haven't gotten used to yet and I think Capcom should keep releasing characters with different play styles to keep the game fresh
Bison is a top 3 character in the game right now and he's probably #1. Don't know what you guys are talking about. He has moves that are difficult if not impossible to punish. He has optimal combo routes that reach almost 80% damage. His crouching mp is as good as Luke's and Akuma's. Fullscreen projectile invincible EX Psycho Crusher. Now is not the time to downplay M. Bison.
Lets see how this ages!
I feel your pain angrybird to me they made bison pay to win dlc more so than Akuma but lately i been on a mission and been cooking all the bison players with Ryu they stand no chance
Air fireball fucks bison up badly
Psycho crusher shuts that shit down wdym
@@thestanman1486 charge
I agree with the Akuma Bison matchup itâs rough
Top 1. Angry bird not even using devils reverse and still winning
Change to Ryu then cause bad matchup big-time for Bison
To answer his question if any other character has plus heavy normals. Akuma's stand fierce kick is +3. There may be more. I haven't played every character. I think he's really overreacting a bit. Both of Bison's plus normals also each have their downsides.
I get what you mean, but Akuma's heavy kick whiffs on crouchers at least.
@@SOSLO1324 what makes me absolutely mad is that i learned akumas bnb m.p >m.p> light tatsu> medium dp !!
and even if you hit m.p>m.p the light tatsu would whiff if the opponent got hit crouching
@@NeroDeamon why would you be mad about that? you have plenty of time to confirm into DP or heavy tatsu instead of light tatsu if they are crouching
@@gameclips5734 its muscle memory xD...im screaming in slow motion as my finger go towards light kick
@@NeroDeamon from playing ryu or something? i still do medium tatsu now and again since it used to work in SFV :/
6:00 i just checked and this st hp only has 17f of recovery hell nah
LOL okay that's actually BS...
@@dddaaa6965 plus frames are deserved for such a move but they need to increase the recovery
Heâs annoying to fight with Ed thatâs for sure. But itâs mainly due to Edâs lack of a reversal and sus anti airs
Top 5? The ability to two-touch without Marisa's inherent lack of mobility. All I'm seeing is Capcom blatantly bringing hype in time for EVO/CC, which they will promptly nerf afterward even if they don't want to, because the FGC will be unhappy at not being able to use the rest of the roster due to one stupidly OP character.
Speaking of privileged fierces - Jamieâs is pretty dope, 5 or 6 startup, blows up any DI, and the opponent doesnât take his turn because of the animation đ. I think itâs -1 on block.
Bison is back to old school BS. Making him ultra powerful for no reason. Sometimes it feels like Capcom has a thing for certain characters and they just have to be STRONG, no consideration of balance at all. If they don't patch this character, I'm going to take a step back from the game.
I agree with everything AngryBird said. Why are these buttons plus? And if your going to do that, why allow it to affect drive gauge so much? Why make his inputs easier than ever? Ppl who use this character knowing the unfairness better be trying to make money, cuz this can't be for fun. That's a losers fun.
Yeah. I'm thinking the same thing. I think Bison will be more balanced out when Capcom sees a sales decline for bison. WHen will that be? I don't know..
Yall gotta feel the same for Akuma cause he is busted too...js
"LoW hEaLtH"â@@darrylgreen5096
Bison is just cheese and thats all there is too it
With all my existence I curse the day I bought this game! God why am I so stupid
can birds stream together please
That would be so freaking hot and sexy i totally agree with you on that!!
Ryu HP is +2 super annoying if you think bison is annoying
Are you playing a different Ryu?
Don't nerf Bison Capcom, don't be like NRS
Bison's scissor kick is most def punishable by Low LK into DP or LP into Drive rush combo - all day depending on spacing can get LP into combo (all with Ken)
Unfortunately it takes a literal troglodyte to consistently scuff the spacing on scissor kicks
lol you think pro players dont know to space that move ? thats why the move is ridiculous
Cammy cr.HP is +1 on block
it has no range though try again
@@alexmaganda5827but no 19 frame start up lol git GOOD!
@@Paris.Malaga 19 frame startup means shit if you aint dumb but ofc can't expect much from a baguette
@@alexmaganda5827 git gud platinium lol me and my baguette kick your asses in all SF games
â@@alexmaganda5827lol calme toi petite fille. Google that
Watching this im convinced im playing alot of cheaters the amount of perfect hit confirms perfect timing on drive impact and perfect parrys these guys are doing they are out performing the pros
Cammy crhp
i can't punish this character it's impossible idk why but i just can't, too many saves moves, if u win against him that's mean ur opponent is dumb lol
go to training then and practice your punishes, that's on you
You just gotta lab
100 percent agree. The ease and lack of effort with which he wins is ridiculous . Devils reverse is basically free plus frames, you can barely DI it.
Even when I block his scissor kick at close range, Chuns 5LK into lighting legs whiffs.
@@gameclips5734 the amound of dumb comments here is insane yours takes the cake though lab what hes like super safe on almost everything đ€Šââ
@@alexmaganda5827 if you really don't know what to lab then good luck getting good at SF6...
Angrybird is a Master at clickbaits and creating internet controversy. Ken/Akuma main complaining about safe moves and pressure.
Bison has no wake up he needs something strong unlike ken!
no wake up = no chance
everyone has a wake up
No wake up suddenly doesn't seem so bad when your offense is literally the best in the game and incredibly mindless.
They literally just nerfed Honda for being cheap and strong, why did they add a stronger and cheaper character?!
People don't want to pay for weak dlc characters
@@emsax they actually buffed Honda overall..
Honda is stronger than he used to be đ what are you on
Honda definitely has stronger options than bison what you on?
thing is it was a pretty balanced patch before MB came out. sigh
"I HAVENT EVEN LABBED THIS CHARACTER"
Says he's top 5 and broken smfh
MB is a character that doesnât let you walk all over him. Most of you just want to be able to do whatever you want to do without thinking to get wins. Nothing is wrong with MB. Use your brain đ§ and get good.
You'd think you just won a tournament or something đ
You are a one of these people who thinks the problem are the players and not the Game, You sucks
Lol no. If nothing else at least, his scissor kick has way too much pushback. Minimal risk and you can throw it out whenever.
Seriously, bison is strong but people need to play him for a month to actually learn
He's obviously gonna get nerfed.
AngryBird S2 political campaign begins
You've been playing Ken who is still cheap to this day. Was even cheaper. Also, funny to be complaining about a 19f heavy punch with all the heavy punch privilege you have as a Ken player
ken is not cheap, strong, yes.
Bison isn't cheap, he's "wtf is this bs"
bison vs akuma is 7-3? habibi stop trolling lmao
L Take. This guy plays Luke and Ken. Have a seat.
yikes, go play MK1