Was TMNT Ever Any Good? - The Original CG Ninja Turtles Movie
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The latest Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles film, Mutant Mayhem, was an incredibly fresh, young take on the TMNT franchise.. but in 2007 there was already a CG Ninja Turtles film that captivated audiences. But.. is it as good as we remember? Is there a reason not many people talk about it? Time to find out!
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Leonardo is my favorite Ninja Turtles too!
Bro you and I need to be friends. I loved this movie too and I had crushes on all these animated women too 9:00
Loved this movie as a kid saw it in theaters def looking back there were some things that should've been done differently. But great vid Browntable id love if if you did a rise of the TMNT movie.
What's your opinion on rise of the tmnt Raph? Cause honestly in that show he might be my favorite more often then not
@@zolden37 my honest opinion on Raphael from Rise of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, he’s better but they keep on trying to make him the leader but whenever they go too far they always revert back to Leonardo being a better off leader then Raph
Interesting fact, in Leo's prequel comic to this movie, He actually kills a whole ship's full crew of human traffickers. This proves Leo canonically did kill those guys in the jungle and he will kill anyone if pushed to that point. Leo is also my favorite turtle
NO WAYYYYYYY
I'm serious, I learned that fact from a video on CZcams channel Old Turtle Den I think and he explained how Leo and Raph got their respective titles before the events of this film. Also I have one favor to ask, PLEASE do make a Rise of the Tmnt 2022 movie review, it is my 2nd favorite ninja turtles movie and I would love to see your review of the film
He didn’t kill anyone
@@billbolton7108I too love lying through my teeth
@@Browntable what do you think of the 2012 TMNT series ?
The Leo vs Raph chase scene/fight is one of the greatest moments in TMNT history
Same here
Agreed
Yea fax
"and more importantly,,,,im better than you"
SHIT,,,,IS,,,,AWESOME
The fight is the best scene in the movie but the nostalgic aftermath when raph throws the weights and lays down leos swords is just as good (in my opinion)
The reason that Mikey and Donnie didn’t have much to do in this movie is because they were saving both for the cancelled sequels. The second film was planned to be a Michelangelo centric story featuring the return of shredder, and the third and final film was to be centered around Donatello with Krang as the villain.
Many moons and suns have passed since this movie came out and I still hurt knowing we'll never get these movies. It had its problems, but there's a chance those problems could've been done right in the sequels making for even better movies. Adult me gets it but my inner child will never recover or forgive 😂
I didn't know about the third movie with Donny and Krang. That sounds badass!
It hurts me every time I remember these facts ‘cause I love this movie and I think two sequels in this universe would be great to me.
This film holds a special place in my heart being my introduction to the franchise. It’s not a perfect film at all but I still love what they did in it. Tho it does really feel like a sequel to the original 90s trilogy.
There’s no way it isn’t apart of the 90’s verse
Same. The only problem I have with it is that Mikey and Donnie got demoted to extra. It’s a good thing mutant Mayham fixed that issue.
i see it as an amlgamation of the 90's movies and the 2003 series there are thing there to suggest it's part of teh first 3 to 4 seasons of tmnt 2003 and there are things there to suggests it's apart of the 90's films so i see it as a combination of both@@TheAcrelicGem
My introduction to the franchise was the 2003 show
He first video game I ever played was the DS adaptation of the 2003 show.
The 2007 TMNT movie is criminally underrated at its finest. The final scene where Mikey sneezes after the death of redeemed Max Winters will always be funny.
Yeah 😂😂
my favourite Mikey bit is when raph hangs up the nightwatcher helmet and mikey comes up behind him with the turtle mask 😂
What I find interesting is this movie was originally meant to be the first in a trilogy, hence why Karai teases a sequel. That's also why Mikey and Donnie don't have much to do bc this first movie was about Raph and Leo's arcs, and the second and third movies were gonna focus on Donnie and Mikey respectively. Shame that never happened honestly.
I would’ve loved that😊
Donnie and Mikey don't nearly get as much love from the creators as they should.
@lordhades8025 when you say creators, who do you mean exactly? Because Laird and Eastman have always treated them well. The STUDIOS don't always know how to handle them.
i loved this movie as a little kid, leo vs raph will always be one of the best moments of my childhood
I have the blueray
Facts, I'll lowkey fight someone who dares slander this movie.
@@unknownchoujin1436well it’s a terrible movie. I had fun watching it when I was a kid but let’s not lie to ourselves here
Same here
@@zzodysseuszz You dare face me, mortal?
I never really seen anything TMNT until this movie, then I was instantly a fan. I enjoyed the Raph vs Leo scene and I loved Ralph fighting that tiny munchkin.
I think the idea of Raph being called Ralph is funny. He’s such an angry little goober.
It is weird how grand and imposing Shredder is made out to be by the narration and even the way he is spoken about leading people to fear he could return in a future movie and he also looks so cool
But if you consider this movie in continuity with the 90s movies then that means this incredibly cool character was crushed under a dock after the Turtles were on stage dancing with Vanilla Ice
If the game and comics were anything to go off of, it seems like they intended to form total brand synergy with the 2003 series. The Ninja Tribunal and Ancient One exist in this universe, Shredder's ingame model in the 2007 tie-in game was a 2003 Shredder model IIRC, and Karai was finally introduced to the movies. Back to the Sewer also overhauled the art style and (unfortunately) redesigned the turtles to resemble their 2007 counterparts. I think it's possible that they would've portrayed Shredder in a much more similar demeanor to how he was in 2003 once they brought him back, but we'll never know.
I don't care what anyone says THIS is the best TMNT film to me! The way the characters were modeled and designed, the fight scenes, the voice-acting! It all felt PERFECT! It was almost like a modernized version of the Mirage comics
i also liked the TMNT show, they had similar models to this movie.
Same here dude
The score was so good too! The main theme for this movie always stuck with me since it cane out.
@@RavenclawDaisy95 oh my God, don't get me started on the film's theme
Nostalgia blinds you, I grew up on it too, but man, was it not good as I remember.
Apparently the sequel was going to reintroduce Shredder. I can only imagine how badass that would've been. Probably would've been similar to the 2012 Shredder.
The sequel would also reintroduce the ooze and could potentially have something to do with his revival. There was a teaser that shows Mikey finding his father and brothers unmutated while the Shredder's face looms over him (I wonder if maybe this inspired the story of The Last Ronin)
@Zeo1Thousand but they already went through the ooze stuff
@@mrfunatparties6763 they also already fought Shredder 🥴
@@Zeo1Thousand one is antagonistic and the other is a product of their creation. Guess which one can be used more with a new approach🥴
This movie will forever be my favorite adaptation of the turtles franchise, period. The storytelling, the visuals, the cinematography, the performances, and most importantly the fight sequences. Leo vs. Raph was and forever be fucking elite man.
Fun fact: There's actually a prequel comic for this movie about how raph becomes the nightwatcher and leo became the ghost of the jungle. My favorite is raph because his story is actually sad and that line from the movie "crime never took a break" i think thats what he meant by it in his prequel comic.
SPOILER FOR THE PREQUEL COMIC:
Raph saves an old man from these criminals and that old man is actually the original nightwatcher they talk a bit and when raph comes back to meet the old man he died by the same criminals (idk if thats how the story goes its been so long since i read that so sry if i get it wrong) and that day raph takes on as the new nightwatcher
The biggest sin of this movie is not fully explaining the monsters, which is discussed on the DVD commentary. The monsters are "real-life" legendary monsters; the first one they fight is Big Foot/sasquatch, the winged bat-like one is vampires, the diner monster is the Jersey devil, the last big one is Loch Ness, etc. I always tell people this when I recommend this film, it really helps out if you know this going in.
That’s actually really sick. It explains that they’re very much known about but still leaves room for the myths to have discredit too. Might not explain why they’re in NY but I’ll just assume it’s something w always going where the portal is
@@eggy6729 It's been a while since I've seen the film, but I'm pretty sure there's some brief dialogue that mentions the alignment is drawing the monsters out... As much as I have enjoyed this film, there are a lot of problems, especially with narrative and exposition. I think the original opening was supposed to be Mikey at the party, but they shoved the backstory up front and added narration to poorly preamble the film.
I always thought the bat like one was actually a Gargoyle, mainly because he pretends to be one before eating a bird.
I still remember most of it despite being more than a decade since I saw this. I'd be watching loads of TMNT stuff and alongside this I'd be building my LEGO TMNT set. Good times.
Good times indeed ;w;
@@Browntable very coincidental as well since I was thinking about this movie a few weeks back. I'm convinced people have some degree of telepathy.
Growing up watching this film, in theaters, alongside the 2003 show on 4Kids, sparked a huge and neverending love for the Turtles. I loved all the Turtle scenes in the movie, I knew the movie wasn't the best (skipped the whole 300 scene every time I put this movie on) but it still had a special place in TMNT loving heart. Thank you for voicing your thoughts and nostalgia trips for this film. I'd be down for more TMNT related content.
I remember seeing this in the cinema and left disappointed. But I can't remember why. it wasn't until years later I watched it on Netflix and was kind of like, "Omg. This is pretty great. The relationship between the brother but specifically Leo and Ralph is wild!"
The your mom joke is the best joke in the movie, but my personal favourite is “no I’m NOT playing hard to get, I TOLD you, it’s NOT THAT KIND OF PHONE LINE!!!!”
Brotherly hate and them trying to kill each other so relatable
LMAOOOOOOOOOO
This is a wonderful movie! It's not perfect, and nostalgia plays a big factor into why I love it. But who fucking cares it's peak! It's so sad that we only had one movie with these turtles. The possible sequels would've been amazing.
The TMNT game was so peak, the tag team combos were my favorite part.
Same here
Same with Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Smash-Up on the Wii
This is probably the most talked about TMNT movie on the internet. Although it has its flaws I admire its ambition to tell a story about TMNT that takes places after Shredder is gone.
Comics and cartoons did it. The movie was solid
11:13 from what we know the sequels were supposed to explore Don and Mikey a bit more. Like the idea of Mikey joining the foot in the sequel and Donatello being involved in the technodrome arrival in the third(ideas I think were said in an interview a while back). Would’ve been cool to see ngl.
@Julianjulesr1361 me too.
Mikey always gets the shaft.
The raph vs leo scene from start to finish is one of my favorite scenes to this day, this movie didn’t do much to justify itself but that scene alone was some of the best tension I’ve seen
Oh man I'm so glad to see a TMNT video on the channel! This film was one of my first introductions to this franchise alongside the 2012 series. Also would love a video on the latest movie.
This TMNT holds a special place in my old kindergarten version of my heart. Shit’s all time. You are too, man.
Ah man I do love this movie. Loved it as a kid and do now even if I notice the flaws.
I love how the diner dude is like “no please I got kids!…in college…community college…”
Browntable: If you want to make something look cooler, use rain
Daredevil (2003): Aight bet
This movie got me hooked into TMNT as a kid. Despite the pacing and dialogue issues, it still has the PERFECT tone for TMNT. Serious ninjas, with hints of comic relief
I'm not a huge TMNT fan but I do like the movie.
What year were you born?
I liked Mutant Mayhem better but I can’t deny that this film has its merits and that I still enjoyed watching it.
I love them both 👍👍👍👍
Boy are you wrong
@@billbolton7108opinions dont exist anymore?
mutant mayhem sucked
This movie is seriously underrated! It was my favorite TMNT movie when I was a kid and it still holds a special place in my heart as an adult. Gems like this deserved better recognition than they got originally.
I had the DS game for this as a kid and never knew it was based off a movie so when I finally found the film as an early teen watching it was surreal
Dude, nothing connected to me more than you loving the TMNT movie-based game. It was the best when I was a kid! I played that on my PS2 religiously.
Please do talk about Rise of the TMNT's movie (I think, like you were alluding to in this video, the parallels but also contrasts in how the focus is on Raph and Leo could be very cool to explore :P)
Also, the other characters still do get to do stuff in it :)
This film was my childhood! Thank you for talking about it. I love how mature it was
This movie was your childhood? What year were you born?
This was a childhood classic!!!
I wouldn't say it's a classic. But it is a good movie though.
What year were you born?
Damn I wish it got a sequel with Shredder. They even had time in between TMNT 2007 and TMNT 2014
BROWNTABLE:”no talks about this one”
The Cult following:”ARE U SURE ABOUT THAT”
24:33 I always wanted to see a version of the movie where Leo followed something in line with the Tmnt 2003 intro saying "never fight unless someone else starts" so Leo hates Nightwatcher because he views him as an angry vigilante who fights crime out of rage and maybe even killing people
If the scene where we see Leo in the forest didn't had him killing a dude off screen, would mean more because he and raph would be both vigilantes but Leo's comes from a place of helping people and trying to be better while Raph comes from a place of anger, trying to fill the void of his brother leaving them
Mickey and Donnie also should have been part of the main theme more because they all brothers and deal trauma in different ways so get to see how each one deals with their emotions would make the movie great because it would be a more grounded but emotional story about broken brothers trying to get back together as family
You took the words out of my mouth at the beginning, this movie was so huge for me as a kid.
My brother and I grew up with two best friends, and each of us had a different favorite Ninja Turtle. This movie came out after we all had graduated high school and we went to see it together, then went and got pizza afterward. It will always hold a special place in my heart for that reason, if no other.
This was my introduction into the TMNT and was my childhood also Nightwatcher should’ve returned in future iterations
Love this movie so much, got to see it in theatres and it was also one of my childhood pillars next to Fox Kids Spiderman and Power Rangers. Gotta go listen to the ost again cause now its stuck in my head.
Was really weird how mutant mayhem had no main theme even tho trailers played the 80s version on piano amd then did a cool thing where they mixed it with ante up in another trailer
Hearing you say that TMNT and the '03 show was your childhood made me feel OLD. I was an '80s kid. The '80s cartoon was my jam, I had the 4 VHS tapes from the Burger King kids meals when the BK Kids Club was still a thing, the '90 movie was my joint, I was a member of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Fan Club and took a polaroid with Michelangelo at my local mall when I was a kid and I LIVED in the arcade playing the 4-person cabinet with my brothers. I still own the NES games to this day...
Also, neither Picard nor Kirk are the GOAT............that would be Benjamin Sisko.
I will die on this hill but TMNT 2007 is forever goated I love this movie so much it’s just great and it’s criminally underrated I even got to tell the director Kevin Munroe how much I loved this movie and he appreciated my kind words and I appreciated his 💚🐢🥷🍕
This was my comfort movie as a child and I played the psp game for it. I loved it and to this day i still dont see any problems with it. Ive always been a fan of the turtles, the og cartoon and side scrolled game. I love all turtle content
This film was my first exposure to the Turtles when I was 7, it was only until the 2012 show that I had an actual proper introduction and went back to this movie. I love the serious tone and the animation, it has my favourite art direction and design for the Turtles. This movie is awesome.
There’s a comic that gives an origin of Raph being the nightwatcher and why he held such a grudge on Leo’s leadership!
I remember I actually rewatched it myself to see whether it held up to me a while ago and it still stands as one of my favourite movies and it’s so sad how Imagi went out of business. WE COULD’VE HAD A BANGER OF A 3D ANIMATED LEGEND OF ZELDA MOVIE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA-
I cant help myself but rewind the scene back of Raphael falling past the building EVERYTIME I SEE IT , it's 🔥🔥
ITS SO GOOD
Regardless of whether it's good or if the movie still holds up this movie will always have a special place in my heart. I will always remember going with my dad to watch this movie in theaters when I was about 6.
15:35 the foot isn’t there to capture, remember they’re just the eyes and ears to locate them. Winters brothers are the ones to capture.
This is still my favorite TMNT film. It has exactly what I want tonally and character wise from the franchise and I love how gritty and edgy the movie can be at times. The Rise movie and Mutant Mayhem were ok, but this entry in the TMNT franchise will always be epic as hell. It has the same qualities of why I love the original 1990 movie and Batman vs TMNT
I'm so glad you covered this movie! This is still one of my top 5 favorite Movies ever.
Fun fact: TMNT 2 was going to happen at some point. The story was going to be about Mikey joining the foot clan after all the dismissal and disrespect he gets from his brothers. His brothers as well as Splinter would follow Mikey to Japan where they all get turned back into regular animals. So it would be up to Mikey to save his family and get them back to their mutated selves.
Unfortunately, it never happened because the studio that made this movie went bankrupt.
This movie is one of my first cinema memories. It’s so special to me.
Thanks for posting your thoughts, I really enjoy listening and watching and thinking about your videos. Thanks man
There was almost a sequel where the the brothers and Master Splinter were affected by an Anti Mutagen serum, and Michaelangelo is the only one left. It also would've had Shredder in it.
0:33 Oh my god! I... remember...
Wow that was quite a nostalgia trip from just 3 seconds of an opening theme song.
fun fact, mikey's va in this movie is the same person who voiced ratchet in the first ratchet and clank game(from the 2nd game onwards, he was voiced by leo's va in this movie)
I remember going to see this movie for my bday when I was kid loved the movie and game that came out with it back then. I actually rewatched it recently and yeah it hasn't aged the best but the Leo vs Ralph fight still goes hard.
The 2000s the era of red haired childhood crushes
- April O’Neil from TMNT 2003 (show) and TMNT 2007 (Movie)
- Jean Grey from X-Men: Evolution
- Sam from Totally Spies
- Daphne from What’s New Scooby Doo
- Emma from Stoked
- Abby from Grossology
- Jen from 6teen
- Barbara Gordon from The Batman (2004)
- Bloom from the Winx Club
- Gwen from Ben 10 Alien Force and Ultimate Aliens
Yes
I’m still peeved over Leo losing against Raph. I’ll never get over it
Not only did I love the game based on the movie but I loved Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Smash-Up on the Wii which had the character designs from this movie
The 2000s designers actually cooked with their feminine details 👀🔥👏🏼
This is the movie that got me into Ninja Turtles and yes, please do more videos on Ninja Turtles.
Leo and Ralph have been fighting since the 1st live action TMNT. Their rivalry go way back.
It so good to see someone talk about this movie
This movie is so underrated almost 20 years on. Excellent casting, a mood that most accurately fit the comic style and still self-contained that even your youngest brother doesn’t know who Vanilla Ice is.
But I took my 65 year old mother to see Mutant Mayhem and she decided the 80s cartoon was better.
I definitely agree with you, I watched it, a bunch of times when I was a kid, and still enjoy it, to this VERY DAY!!!
One of my favorite tracks in this movie is the Nightwatcher theme because it starts slow and then the music begins to get intense as the fight progresses. That fight scene lives rent free in my head it’s that good.
Mako as Splinter was perfect casting and the little bit of info that he's into daily soap operas is hilarious.
This movie was my childhood and I loved it
This was the first Tmnt Movie I’ve ever saw that’s how I got into the Ninja Turtles in the first place, also Tmnt 1990 was the second film I’ve watched.
I remember in 2014 seeing the Nightwatcher/Raph vs Leo fight on CZcams and I spent forever trying to find the movie. Finally got to watch it on Netflix in 2018 and watched it once every month until Netflix removed it.
PLEASE make a video on the 2003 TMNT series, the fanbase adores it but it is NEVER talked about to any wider audiences
Ramboraph4life and theitalianstallion51 both made great videos on that series it is the best ninja turtles cartoon
I’m also a Leo guy, I’d love to see you talk more about the turtles
The cg and the way the action scenes were animated are very stylish. It's always fun to re experience this movie once every blue moon.
Honestly, that game was goated. Sure the graphics aren't the best, but the game play and speed running elements of it were great features. And the whole mechanic of one of the brothers stepping in when you reach 0 hp was brilliant.
i didnt know you and i were the same age until this video. you grew up with all the same stuff i did. and thats awesome. :)
I got this on DVD and the video game is heavily promoted in the previews. I loved the movie.
I only watched this movie twice in my life as a ten year old and I could still remember the iconic fight of Leo and Raph.
Btw this is one of your funniest videos yet and I fully relate to your disappointment over Donnie and Mikey being sidelined as usual.
It would mean the world to me if you talk about Rise of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles series and movie. It's a CRIME it got cancelled.
Maybe I'm showing my age here, but I genuinely don't know why you think it's "odd" that Michaelangelo has the "annoying stoner archetype". Mikey has been characterized this way since the 1987 cartoon series. He has been that surfer, stoner, pizza-eating stereotype until the more recent cartoon series (2012 and Rise) axed the surfer-bro personality and just made him more of a carefree, innocent younger brother. (Although the 2014 Bay Turtles clearly took inspiration from surfer Mikey).
I was genuinely surprised that Leo didn't recognize Raph as the Nightwatcher during their hand-to-hand fight. I just kept thinking, _"Wouldn't Leo recognize the Hamato clan's fighting style?"_ 🤔 I mean he and his brothers have sparred together for their _entire_ childhood, after all. And as for where the monsters came from and why they were only "now" making an appearance, I remember back in 2007 (I was 24 years old and a HUGE TMNT geek) there were _forums_ of us digging through the film's clues trying to figure out _which_ monster was _what_ cryptid. The monsters were supposedly based off of "real" cryptids. For instance, if I remember correctly, the little monster in the diner was determined to be the Jersey Devil. (But don't quote me on that, it's been like 16 years since then. 😅)
I'm SO glad that folks are starting to give this movie it's flowers. It's a good film that got dragged down by a "mid" story. Instead of the Max Winters storyline I wish they had instead pulled from one of the many stories and characters from the actual TMNT comics. (The Mirage comics, NOT the IDW). Thanks for highlighting this little gem. ❤
I remember watching the movie from Rental Disc and later buy the DVD and this TMNT is what i'm holding dear from animation,music,and Action. And this movie is the reason Black Betty is my favorite song and using during Raph vs Jersey Devil was Iconic (to me that is). I even remember some of Tv channel promote Hercules Disney movie using one of TMNT soundtrack.
I’m with you man Leonardo has always been my favourite Turtle like how Cyclops is my favourite member of the X-Men
That intercutting between Toretto saying “Salute, mi famiglia,” ending perfectly with Raph's mouth animation-that's pure art right there.
_This_ was how I _really_ got introduced to the Turtles. I was familiar with them up until I saw this film, but this movie is what got me into them more than before, so it holds a special place in my heart to this day (😊).
I rewatched it recently and the Leo vs Raph scene is way better animated than I remember and expected, it would be my favorite animated scene in the franchise if rottmnt didn't exist.
This movie was my SHIT when I was, like, 6. I used to rent the last Acceleracers DVD from my local library just to watch the sick-ass trailer for TMNT on loop.
I love this movie! It was absolutely my childhood and I always have fun rewatching it
Just saying...I honestly wouldn't mind a video series dedicated to the 2003 turtles. The dark atmosphere and action-oriented plot of the show is so ingrained into my childhood and remains my favorite iteration of TMNT. It's bonkers to me that it appears to get so little attention compared to more recent incarnations of the franchise, it's deserving of a proper analysis!
unfortunately, that's never gonna happen. the last ronin is confirmed to be the next *major* TMNT game (mutant mayhem's game is just gonna be shovelware). as much as I'd like that idea to be made a reality, it's clear nickelodeon doesn't value the 2003 series at all. every bit of merchandise is the 87 turtles, every crossover (including all-star brawl) includes the 87 turtles, the credits of mutant mayhem pay homage to the 87 turtles. I don't think the 2003 turtles are ever gonna matter to nickelodeon.
Bro I loved watching this movie as a kid, I kept the DVD in my empty Kids Bop CD holder with my own drawn title card on it. It always skipped at the part where Raph kicks that little monster's ass to "Black Betty" in the diner but luckily it never skipped at the Leo-Raph fight scene because child me absolutely lived for the angst and action, especially with my two favorite turtles 🐢
I actually replayed the game recently on my PC. Game surprisingly still holds up as being fun and for a movie licensed game it's surprisingly full of content.
Calling the Construction Destruction monster “Cocaine Bear” made me literally spit out my cereal in laughter. This is the best video ever. I’ve seen you around on Twitter but am kicking myself that this is the first video of yours I’ve seen. Breath of fresh air 👏👏👏👏👏
Im DEMANDING more tmnt content
What I remember of the game is loving it, I had it on Wii and it was so dope
This is one of the most underrated movies ever this is my favorite versions of tmnt
This is my favourite Tmnt movie ever. I have a DEEP obsession with this film