Gran Turismo 7 Tuning - The Secret Part For Driving Heaven!
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- čas přidán 4. 04. 2022
- This is the KEY part to add and tweak to your car in Gran Turismo 7 to fix oversteer and turn it into a much better handling vehicle - it is of course the LSD, and in this video we show you the settings to change!
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Wow, I’ve got an 800hp BMW 3.0 csl, basically undriveable, just changed the diff settings as advised and it now drives great, cheers for the tip 👍🏻
Awesome man, enjoy your car!
as much as i enjoy this game; the driving never really feels like you're within a "comfortable zone", it's always either at the limit of catastrophic understeer or snap oversteer
Great way of putting it
Your playing like "spin defence" instead of racing
@@TbascoSauce agreed
Yo, im right there with you. I can’t truly settle down in it and it’s getting annoying now because cars just don’t handle this way in real life.
do u use tc?
Especially for streetcars I also found it useful to do the body works and attach a wing for better aerodynamics, some cars feel much better after that!
Hey Kireth, I’ve found this same progression in multiple cars in GT7. I feel as though the Porsches handle very poorly in this game too, they just cannot put power down very well, and oversteer like crazy, I’ve tried some fixes myself, but It’s been a lot of messing about with the LSD and natural frequency. I really appreciate the quick setup videos, they really help people like me who can’t test multiple setups and actually play and drive the game, because of the amount of time it takes to find a good tune on my own. :)
I feel like the cars are setup poorly in default as well
Quite a few high performance cars have dynamic/electronically controlled suspension and brakes. GT7 seems to apply an analog model to these cars so they are so far off from their RL counterparts.
@james baker, another tip with the Porsches before you tune the diff is to take as much weight out of the car as you car with reductions then then add maximum ballast to the front of the car. I've tuned some 911 into some sweet handling cars using this technique.
@@dan_turismo_44 good tip. I also tried it a few days ago and it really helps.
It’s funny, the standard road car Porsches do tend to oversteer, but the GR4 version drives like a dream
Just found that video randomly and it's answering the main problem i got in gt7, and more since i just bought a thrustmaster wheel , i'm really strugling with correcting oversteer . I knew dif could help but watching that video has been the light for me hahaha thanks, and new sub boss ✌🏻
Hey no problem man!
Glad i found this video, such a simple change does make a big difference especially on the RWD cars i have tried so far. My reference was a lightly tuned Mazda Eunos roadster around Spa and was finding it would snap into oversteer far too easily and was very twitchy out of corners, even with only 180bhp, not like the real car would. Added the LSD and settings as suggested and its so much better and stable, already took 4 seconds off my previous best time.
This setup induces off-throttle understeer. You could also crank the acceleration sensitivity up to stabilize the car on power coming out of corners, and pull back most of the braking sensitivity so you get more turn in on corner entry. The initial torque slider amplifies these characteristics
@@johnm3907 for the r32 you want to set the front diff to minimum so it doesn't do much and adjust the rear on the low side for acceleration/deceleration so it doesn't cause understeer. But in general adjusting your dampers and other suspension and torque vectoring will have more effect in that car
glad you mentioned this because i knew i wasnt crazy... pretty sure the higher acceleration sensitivity definitely gives you more grip out of the turn which is how i tune all of my rwd cars and which has made my setups successful. 5, 60, 40
@@johnm3907 yep you want to increase your acceleration sensitivity, and if that doesn't work, keep adding initial torque to it. But keep in mind you could also be having a dampening or other suspension related issue as well on corner exits. The high RPM turbo could also affect car balance when you're coming on power due to how sudden the car starts to make boost at high rpms, which is why I prefer the medium one
Personally I find that tuning ALL the suspension first for proper cornering, your transmission second (especially the first three for mid corner handling and decent acceleration on exit) for good throttle response and top speed, and then FINALLY the Differential because your diff should be about fine tuning, kinda like sway bars.
I feel like tweaking the LSD to maximum and minimum values is probably making the car the easiest to control but also taking some control away and making potential lap times slower. Probably good for people to make small adjustments until they find the right balance for them.
Unfortunately moments of oversteer destroy lap times
@@Kireth I don’t think they’re saying otherwise. It’s just that the stock wasn’t optimum but it’s unlikely that immediately tweaking LSD to max/min and only on rear will be optimum either. Better off making small changes, one thing at a time, and finding the sweet spot where your problem is gone and you’re not increasing track time.
@@geneticjen9312but at both the extremes the latter is the better is what I think he’s trying to say
I watched the vid of you driving the camaro around deep forest ant that helped me so much with the settings. Made it much more enjoyable. On alot more cars so thanks heaps :) I'm on ps4 controller aswell and still works just as good! Keep it up :)
No worries Kurt!
Many thanks ! Now i can drive with some great cars on the tracks... i love it! Thanks my man, a new world of GT7 is open now for me :) :) :)
No worries Michael!
As much as I love this game, oversteer is basically death in the current physics model. Oversteer correction takes a phenomenal amount of lock and some luck, and it’s very rare to blend a slide back into traction, which often isn’t that difficult - or scary - in reality
Exactly - no slip angle either
100% agree.
Update 1.13 fixed this issue
It was a challenge before the update but not unrealistic. When in real life are you going that fast and trying to brake? Weight shifts around and it makes the car spin, you have to know how to control that and use that weight to your advantage
People complain about how hard it was to steer and turn when you are going high speeds. Like go race on a track see if you are really like that
That was the bit i missed and needed. Great advice ! Thank you.
Man its been a long time i really wanted to press that like button. Great vid!
Cant thank you enough for this tip, i just tried it on brands hatch and took 4 seconds off and ended up with a 1.28 which is amazing for me. Chuffed to bits😁
I found one too... Tires: Front Hard, Back Medium.. instantly fixes the Snap-oversteer, like the Ferrari Gr3. works like a charm. And: you have more PP to spend. also Brake-Balance -2 (to the front) helps a lot !
nah mixed tires are cursed I tell you
I agree with the tyres, but I put the brake balance on setting 2 biased to the rear.
Really informative guide on understanding LSD, torque and handling as a result! I wish GT7 had an in-depth tutorial on teaching the ins and outs of tuning, cus really all I'm doing currently is buying all the parts that give me better stats in horsepower, breaking and whatnot, but I'm not really giving much thought about how it Really changes my driving.
I just started and I’m doing the same thing. Anything you found that helped?
Just find a car and experiment with it on a track to test how the car handles and try to shorten your lap time, I’ve gotten to point I can rebuild classic race cars up to spec
Nice one mate, your setup videos are awesome, thanks for helping us all out with great tips! Has helped me heaps 🤘🤘
No problem Mike!
WOW! This tip helped so much. I didn't want to have to buy a car to win the Le Mans 24 minute challenge. It went from day to night, then rain, then day again on a somewhat drying track. I won using the F1500T-A driving in the dark and rain with no headlights. Impossible to exit the chicanes in the wet before this setup tip. Bravo!
I love to hear it! 🙌🙌🙌
Great vid, definitely subscribing. 👍
Thanks mate , was struggling with 7 this has helped
Well done!
No worries man!
Lowering the rear springs and compression damping will help
You’ve just earned yourself a subscriber 💪🏾
Wow thanks man! Hope you enjoy the channel!
The man giving out straight tips. Unfortunately tuning has abandoned us. KCR & RA. Are top notch
KCR ftw!
Very well explained! Subbed 👍
Thank you very much for this brillant information…!
No worries Markus!
Thank you! Can’t wait to try this tonight
No worries C5!
Oh man, this is life-saving for my blood pressure haha!! thanks, bro
The reason any car goes from understeer (tight) to oversteer (loose) so suddenly is bc the front tires aren't gripping causing it to understeer to all of a sudden the front tires grip and at this point you haze a lot of steering input in the wheel and suddenly when the front tires grip is snaps the rear tires loose (oversteer). Remember always fix what the car does wrong first. If you fix the understeer or tight condition first then it will help the snappy loose or oversteer condition. Once you get the understeer fixed, try working on the oversteer if it's still a problem.
Great info great info thanks for helping me to be a better virtual mechanic👍🏾👍🏾
Yet again, BRILLIANT. Infinite thanks for this. In my heart of hearts (and I KNOW I’m not alone here), I want to find settings for each vehicle that allow me to drive as confidently in GT7 as when I’m in a real car or racing kart.
Cheers!
No problem Bass! Lots more tuning videos coming on this channel
Great tips. I have a C7 road car I use to generate credits with on Tours, and it's great on power but aweful with a lot of under steer and oversteer. This hadms helped a lot, cheers.
I have a Mustang Gr.3 race car and figure this out on my own, my lap times are much faster now.
No problem James!
Mine handles great (after tuning), I raced it yesterday. Hope you get it sorted.
THANK YOU FOR THIS!!!!!
Earned a sub. Th is is the second video I’ve watched that helped
Thanks!
Knewing this and i dont even own a playstation. Made an Italia from used market for a friend he drove the whole game with it, doing first places all over i just made the setups for every track. Nice video, its worth to play with the tunings guys ;)
Wow just tried this and really helps alot with some fine tuning it should work alot better. But a nice quick fix for those who don't want to spend alot of time tuning the car.
Glad to hear it Troy!
Great video this for us mere mortals. Lokking forward to looking at this tonight. Thankyou
Go for it!!
You saved my life! Suscribed!
This helped a lot! Thanks!
You're content is always helpful mate 😁
Thanks man!!
@@Kireth I actually just got 7 today and still unloading the game but i was pretty popular in sport and Raced/Practice with Cody Latkovski, Matt McEwen, Danny Solice and all of the big " exclusive teams " like phénix etc
@@Kireth I'll kick ass in 7 with a little help from my friends lol, i got demoralized with Sport because i was getting punted way to much in FIAs and then getting penalties for getting punted, i was a consistent " second 20 " driver and i got relagated to B class through no fault of my own
I am glad you found this. But for simulator that seems like an unrealistic setting. Meaning that's not how you would actually set up the diff in real life.
you are right, its not black and white, professional engineers and a professional driver could find the best balance. You can do too. with patience :)
I would not go max on all too. Brake balance does help a lot.. anti roll bar soft on the back, stiff on the front, also ride height and center of mass, one could add balance....
Thank you for this video! I was having a fit with a small compact FF car, unable to turn in corners, and softer tires and better suspension wasn't doing a thing to help me.
Excellent video, I subscribe ! 👌
Thanks man!
Thank you!!!! I've been struggling with this same crap!
Fantastic! Thank you!
No problem Tanya!
Great video and good tips, thanks.
thanks!!
Thank you very much, this totally made the car handle better. GOD Bless 🙏.
Gotta love that oversteer understeer combo especially in the gr3s
Chefs kiss 😅
GTS is the same way now I was getting snap oversteer in a GR4 4wd and understeer at the same time
You are right my friend,, Thank you very much for the help.
Awesome tips here for sure!!!!! Cheers!!!!
It worked thank you!
No worries Frank!
I'm seeing a lot of people having problems when they jump from sport tyres to racing tyres. Upgrading the diff will help, but I cannot overstate the importance of upgrading your suspension so that you can tweak the spring resonance. On racing tyres you need a minimum resonance of 3khz.
Nice info, thanks!
I have to check this out
I know this is old but wanna ask. I don't know much about changing the suspension how does it all help?
@@axewpew7439lowers the car and changes the center of gravity and the aerodynamics giving it less wind resistance. The spoiler size and angle determines the amount of downforce the wind hitting it produces. Generally you want that down force because it keeps the ass end of that car planted on the tarmac. Also when you lower a car you will have to stiffen up the suspension. The car is very close to the track and doesn’t have the same range of travel. Obviously you don’t want the car bottoming out so the suspension needs to be upgraded. Making the tires wider apart also gives most cars better handling. Every car is different… the biggest difference that you should use as a beginner is the type of car meaning where the engine sits. FR has the engine up front like Corvette, Mustang, Camaro etc. then you have a MR which means the engine is more in the middle… like most Ferrari’s, Lamborghini’s etc. Also if the car is AWD like Nissan Skyline, Lamborghini Huracan (which is also an MR), Subaru etc. Once you get a baseline tune you’ll understand what to adjust to get it driving better right away. Then gradually you’ll tweak some other little things that you might give you major or minor improvements. Biggest thing is save your baseline tune! You don’t want to make adjustments and find out you messed up your baseline tune and can’t remember how to get it back. That way you can go crazy with experimenting with different builds and drastically changing different values to see what each part does. If your baseline is saved don’t be afraid to push a value to its max or drop it to it’s minimum. I’d say suspension and ride height are the first thing you should do. Experiment with different ride heights… going too low isn’t good either. You want to find the best balance that let’s YOU drive it the quickest. Adding the right parts and then balancing what you put on it. For every action there’s an equal or opposite reaction. So you’ll often gain something to lose something, just make sure the juice is worth the squeeze basically. It comes from a lot of trial and error because people drive differently and are comfortable with different tunes that make THEM faster. Make your own values, then experiment with different ppl’s tuning tips, so you can see what it changes overall… braking, turning and handling. Then why, how and what those different values change the overall vehicle feel compared to yours. Just give it a few laps with a new tune, sometimes it’s just different not bad. But pretty quickly you’ll know if something’s wrong for you usually
Mustang handles like a charm when set righ, fun sliding through the corners and easy to handle I never use TC in all my setups.
write me your settings because i tried everything and all the muscle cars spin and oversteer like hell. If i dont use tcs 2 with mustang gt everything goes sideways. thanks
tyvm this helped me alot.
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Tnx mate... Nice tip💪
Great video. Thank you
Hey no problem!
PD has to change a lot of things in the BOP settings. Some of the group 3 cars like the audi are simply undriveable with the actual BOP settings.
100% - they need to get on top of this
Yeah what they should do imo is turn off BOP so more cars are viable and you can find a setup that supports your own driving style. I know there are people who don't like it because they dont wanna put in the time to find a setup. To fix that they should implement a system in which people can just take other people's setups. Kinda like how you can take liverys but for setups.
@@oSpiceh no bop is the way. As before it was just a mess of people with far different parts and speeds in a race. I’m pleased bop was put back in lately. Other wise you spend a week tuning a car to a daily race for the next one to come around. Just as you get the car where you want it. Yes the bop need tweaking . But it allows for people with less tuning skill to complete. Or of should use their brains and make the one make,the race b and then say race c is open to full tuning while the rest stay bop. And for Christ sake re name it to weekly races lol as there’s nothing daily about them lol
@@jaimecarlow7368 I get that and thats why i said make it so we can copy and share tunes, and top 10 times are always copyable. Easy fix and enables more cars to be viable.
@@jaimecarlow7368 Are you able to do BoP and tuning at the same time? If not any easy fix would be just a bhp and weight limit. At least then more cars are useable. It's a bit annoying seeing everyone in the RCZ for 3 weeks now imo
Nice one man you are a life saver
I’m only a week into playing gt7 and what you described here is a huge issue I always have. I will try this fix tonight. Thanks
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Cool thanks. Stock suspension Ferrari's to love to do that snap. And this does work!
Thx your tip looks like a new game experience
No worries!
I've been messing around with the NSX Gr.3 car because I love the design (I actually did a Castrol NSX replica livery on Sport so it was great to see it actually put in) but I can't get it right yet I've never tried it to this extreme. Thanks for this, it randomly popped up even though I've been a subscriber for a couple of years now. (Google must be listening to my thoughts now 😮) Thanks for the great and useful content ✌️
Awesome Craig and good luck!!
@@Kireth, I'm pleased to say that this worked really well. Thank you 👍🏻
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Thanks, i will test it :)
Just started playing GT7 for the first time and this was so helpful thanx
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Very interesting tips there, thank you..
No problem!
Thanks for sharing
quick flashback there when you mentioned the lsd in the settings 🤣🤣
I don't know what they have modeled for the game, but in real life LSDs are primarily to prevent wheelspin at the inside wheel during cornering. Secondarily, they are used to tune the handling - a bit. The standard settings on GT are basically what a real car would have, so their modelling is not working correctly, probably in combination with other settings or driver aids like traction control. Basic rule of thumb is to run as little diff torque as will still prevent inside wheel spin-up, the higher you go, the harder the car is to rotate.
😎 Thanks Kevin … very helpful… Happy Racing m8 … Catch u L8er m8 … 😎
See you on track!
Thank you sir 🙏🏽
No problem!
A fully customizable diff on my R33 was a NIGHTMARE!!! The factory diff made the car drivable once again.
That's interesting!
R33 is probably my favorite car in the game tbh. Stock suspension, stock trans, still basically equally as fast my FULLY built r34 GTR. Just slightly lesser so, but much much more impressive imo. Yeah stock diffs in that car, the ratios must just be perfect from the jump. The r32 pushes like mad and the 34 seemingly wants to oversteer without aero and suspension tuning and thats with the greatest possible suspension. R33 is just Goldilocks good 🤷♂️😁
At least for older cars the GT7 physics model is very accurate imo. Try pushing a 70's or 80's FR car into oversteer and you can expect exactly that suspension-induced snap back as you get it in GT7.
Recent powerfull cars in the real world are TCS-equipped. So expect surprises when you switch off TCS in GT7.
But that is just part of the fun in GT7!
Gt has mostly been about knowing how to use statistics and changing car setup. For gear to as your showing, tires ECT.
Great info!! And that trippy lsd edit. 😂
Thanks! 😁
Great video!
Thanks Chuck!
Thanks, Kireth Kart
No worries Kevin!
When I did the Ferrari race at Maggiore I remember thinking "well I guess I don't like racing Ferraris. Today I need to get a few bucks to do the vgt menu and the allure of those credits made me get back in my slippy boy. But I'd seen this video last night and tried it out and it's enjoyable now. Thanks!
Damn loving the game!! Check out my vid driving the ferrari for real!!
Nice my mazda roadster with LT1 engine swap is a handful to drive gonna try this out hopefully can hold a corner without the ass end sliding out
It should help!
Yep hlepd a lot thks . Just gotta dile the suspension in still slips the rear a tad but way more fun to drivecnow
Cheers mate ty
No worries Tony!
GT7 the snap oversteer simulator
This is it!
Great advice and well articulated. Well done, more please since the update on handling?
Fantastic job...
Thank you 🙏🏽
You're welcome!!
Thanks for this still trying to learn what the different tuning settings do and which one effect different handling characteristics. I get stuck in the trap of changing settings but don't know what I should expect to happen. So give up and go back to stock and live with it.
Honestly if it's oversteer I would start with the LSD
@@Kireth Even my FWD Type R '20 oversteers on full throotle at high speed turns, but then somehow it doesn't if i take the ssme turn at the same speed but half throotle. This is not how physics work irl or in any other simulation game... I literally had to put a wing on it to make it so you can actually chase lap times while pushing it instead of constantly praying that the rear won't come loose for some odd reason
Wangs OP
@Kill Bill how can i not drive? I can drive pretty well, and I'd say I'm atleast an above average driver in sim racing. I don't usually race a lot, but i have done countless laps, specially at the Nordschleife, throughout my years playing these with a G29. I know how sim racing titles are supposed to handle, i know how a real car handles too since i also drive irl, and GT7 certainly isn't that close in terms of how easy it is to lose the rear. The only thing left for you to tell me is that PC2 is "too hard compared to real life" or "too oversteery", yet i have a lot more trouble in GT7 than in any other more realistic title. I bet people who say PC2 is too oversteery are the ones who always lift off to corner. GT3 cars are fine, except for the Audi R8 that grips well but you can't take a corner at less than 20% throotle atleast, but it's fine for me. The problem is with road cars. The physics are a big improvement from GT Sport, since you can actually feel the grip now and even comfort tires are usable, but it still needs some work on the throotle input part.
@Kill Bill and i mostly drive stock cars or upgraded hp/weight with sport suspension. I only change the diff in some FWD cars and usually keep the stock one for RWD since it feels more predictable for me. Yet, the cars should handle better with stock settings...
Thanks!
Any info for LSD adjustments when it comes to FF cars?
Funny, this open-under-acceleration locked-under-deceleration was the handling "fix" Papyrus came up with at launch for Grand Prix Legends' default setups.
In that case the actual flaw was a tyre model that did not respond to load correctly, so it would lose grip when the load increased. That caused a lot of nonsensical spins.
I suspect in this case, such an abominable diff setting is equally indicative of an underlying physics issue. I would say mixing of longitudinal and lateral slip forces, and excessive wheel inertia are to blame
Agreed, wish there would be some more transparency about it!
any ideas for a fully kitted classic nsx? with both road versions I encounter massive fishtailing when driving fast, long but minor turns. examples would be turns before the chicanes on Nürburgring GP or basically every Tokyo layout.
thanks bro am try it
Go for it!
I wonder if or when they're going to do something about it. Try the stock C4 Corvette ZR-1 without engine tuning - that car shouldn't violently snap in soft racing tires when it was delivered in real life with some 80s/90s performance street tires.
@Kill Bill i wonder how important are the tires in this game
@Kill Bill ive figured it out 🤣✌🏾
Newbie here. Thanks for your videos, great stuff. Do these settings work on 4wd cars as well please? Although I understand the technical side of real world diffs and lsd, setting game numbers is a whole new world to me! I’m not consistent enough to be able to spot the effects of small changes to settings.
I can't wait to fire up GT7 and try this. A few cars are ridiculously squirelly
Good luck!
I encounter the problem many times, but I never know how to adjust it, thank you! But I still have to figure out how to adjust 4WD tho
Very nice
Very good
This is a game changer for me as a ps4 controller user 😁👍🏻
Yep might be even more pronounced on controller!
Gotta say a 5-7-50 diff setting works for me on controller. It gets me a sligt ability to rotate the car a tiny bit on throttle but not snapping with no TC on. Then turn TC on 1 and boy my corner exiting speed i huge compared to stock diff setting. You really helped me a lot here. You are getting a like and subscribtion from me!
I've only been playing gt7 for just over a week and I find if you put a splitter and a custom wing and play around with the downforce, take the porche taycan turbo s, that car doesn't like turning at corners so I put a splitter and a custom wing and gave it more downforce and now it turns around corners at speed.
Nice tip!!
nice tips bro
adjusting to the toe is also a very good way of countering this but it seems like the diff is more important
Yep but wouldn't be surprised if they patch the handling model
Cool tips.
Thanks Hugh!