Catastrophe in the King's Indian: Kelley vs Raptis
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- čas přidán 28. 08. 2024
- Please enjoy. This video explores a crucial main line in the King's Indian while at the same time discussing some of the major strategic philosophies that guide the play of both sides.
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What a gentleman act to show your own loss!
+TimurTolibayev Yes.. I didn;t notice that until read the comments. Some of the Masters of the game tend to idolize their wins more.
I appreciate this!!
Besdies the fact that it was a very good game on your part especially, I really like these videos as you make a swift and very instructive transition from the openings to middlegame strategy. I especially like that you point out the ideas and objectives for both sides starting from the opening. Thank you and I'm looking forward to more videos like this!
***** Thank you!!
Great video. I really wish you were a commentator on more games. Great humility on your part to present a losing game. This video was very instructive, entertaining, and needless to say a true demonstration of beautiful chess on behalf of both players. The King's Indian will never be the same :)
David Franco :) :)
Hi Dereque, thanks for sharing the game, it was truly both spectacular and breathtaking. I cannot but applaud your ability to cope with what must have been a devastating loss and to further provide us with such a detailed analysis. Take care.
Pavel Janečka :) :)
It's time for a rematch against this guy. Come on Dereque! You can do it!
Haha, thank you! Yes we can!! :)
Dereque, I appreciate your willingness to share with us a game in which you were beaten. So many youtubers only want to show us their victories, which is so misleading. You have proven to us that you are humble and take joy in studying both your victories and losses. Thanks for the clear,, concise, and concrete analysis of the moves played, the ideas behind said moves, and the possible sidelines which could have been played. I thoroughly enjoyed your presentation. Thanks so much. I have learned much.
+Nelson Etienne III same here.
+Koen Palstermans who is this?
+Nelson Etienne III Glad to hear you enjoyed it, thank you!! :)
You're welcome. I look forward to seeing more of your videos.
This has to be the best video on the King's Indian I think i've seen.
NotDavidCameron1 :)
I love how articulate and well-reasoned these videos are - with the ideas behind each move clearly stated in ways we beginner level players can understand.
:)
Mr. Kelley you are truly a wonderful teacher. Please keep doing what you're doing! I love it. Thanks.
Thank you for the kind and encouraging words, much appreciated! Thank you! :)
I can hardly believe it. I first played against Nick Raptis when he was a D player -- he was 14 at the time. Only a few years later, before he was even out of high school, he thoroughly thrashed me. ;-) Very cool to see how successful he has become.
+Michael Powe :) Raptis is a G!!!
Dereque Kelley, I have never commented on youtube before but this video has made me a fan of yours! Amazing commentary and great humility displayed. I was expecting you to win right until the end, but I was pleasantly surprised. Beautiful game sir!
excellent explanation ;) This guy deserves more subscribers..
Very good comments, real pleasure!
Thank you!
Great video as always! Very interesting and instructive. I have learned and enjoyed a lot while watching this video. Thank you, keep up the good work! And don't worry you will get him next time ;)
+GodlyTecker :)) Thank you!!!!
Your teaching powers are simply awesome!
Awesome video. I loved the in-depth analysis, especially the philosophy of the King's Indian. It must be time-consuming, but if possible, please do similar videos. Personally, I'd love to see, in order of preference, the Nimzo-Indian, Queen's Indian, Pirc, and English. Really appreciated your videos on these openings, and the strongest reply to d4 video.
+mgrimm322esq Great to hear! Thank you for the suggestion and encouraging words! :)
Great video, I really enjoy and learn so much from these.
Keep them up!
Roberto Tarantino Great to hear :)
WOW! what an amazing game and you commented it very well. Its always a pain losing like this I know it from my own games and a gentleman act to show them, as I did too. Thanks very much!
Thank you so much!! This is a wonderful comment, I'm tremendously delighted! Thank you again! Sincerely, Dereque! :)
Wonderful video! Thanks so much for sharing your very exciting game and with such understandable and interesting comments!
very interesting game. I learned alot. thnx
Thanks for stopping by!
Very instructive, beautiful match tactics and very good explanation, thanks!
firerockbr :)
quite the adventure, appreciate the fun you have in the analysis
My goodness! Your narrative ability to communicate the game is unparalleled. I have enjoyed your videos for some time now, and am only just now getting this one. So impressed and thankful for your outstanding and highly educational videos. I sometimes wonder: do you think about chess in precisely the ways you talk about it in your videos? Or is your immediate grasp of the game more automatic? I mean that: in your videos you speak in such a measured yet accessible way; is your internal experience across the board similar, or more automatic? I marvel at the grasp of high-level players such as yourself, and am curious what your experience is like as you play the game. :)
Thank you!! These are tremendously kind words to receive! I shared the first few sentences on Facebook, this was really a treasure and a delight to read! My thinking procceses really vary depending on a lot of factors - caffeine use or the lack thereof, recent social experiences (or the lack thereof :o), whatever's going on at the time. Usually I suspect it's highly intuitive but in tournaments I sometimes experiment with more regimented ways of thinking. My favorite is Botvinnik's suggestion to think about tactics/caclulation on your turn, and strategy while the opponent's clock is going. But it really varies. Thank you again for the kind words, it's so much appreciated! And wecome!!! :)
Thank you very much for this meaningful and personal reply, Dereque. Keep up the fine work! Would you be so kind as to recommend your preferred intermediate-level instructional chess book?
Winning Chess Tactics by Yasser Seirawan comes to mind first :)
Thank you! I look forward to checking that out.
Mr. Kelley, quite the interesting game! I have enjoyed many of your videos. You may have lost the game, but wonderful for your audience to see how both Masters thought about their strategy and tactics. Thank you for sharing.....
You bet, thanks so much for the kind words I greatly appreciate it!
After black plays pawn to e5, why doesn't white respond with d5 first before castling? It seems that by allowing the knight to reach c6 and then playing d5, white is helping black's development. Thanks for the video
It is an excellent question. Black's best strategy is to play ...a5 and ...Na6-c5 in response to this early d5 which is known as the "Petrosian Variation". Black ends up getting superior counterplay and counterchances when he's able to position the knight on c5 rather than having to play it to c6 and then e7 where the knight remains stuck for sometime. Often times Black gets pressure against e4 and can still play for ...f7-f5. Thank you for watching!
Thanks.
Your videos are fantastic. So clear, such interesting analysis.
Greatly appreciated.
Thank you very much! That's great to hear :)
I really like both:your hyperinterresting way of playing AND explaining it so simple
Great game, and brilliant clear insights into the positions, Thanks!
Garron Fish You bet!
Your explanations are so deep!! I really learned a lot thanks
서상욱 Hehe, great to hear!
Great video Dereque! Very well done, I enjoy all your videos and have learned a lot.
Driven22 Great to hear :)
It was a beautiful game, thank you very much for sharing with us. You do a fantastic job of describing the moves and theory of both sides.
Keep up the excellent work.
Cheers mate!
+ilovewiki Thank you very much!! :) Glad to hear you found it interesting :)
Awesome content..Great presentation..God bless you
great game Dereque and presentation was superb. You took losing very well. I look forward to seeing your other videos.
+iidesu1 Thank you!! :)
You remind me of Maurice Ashley's son lol! Great videos. Very easy to understand and thorough. Keep up the good work!!!
+JiveJudd 666 LOL!!!!!!!!!
Dereque Kelley Wow didn't expect you to reply xD Glad I could make you laugh lol. Your teeth are absolute goals m8!!!
Awesome. Enjoyable at each move. Wish you comment on more games for us to learn.
Thank you for the kind words Dasari, and thank you for stopping by! Indeed I hope to release many more games like this in the future! :)
A very nice presentation!
Brilliant analysis on a truly fascinating game. ......even though you lost it was spectacular.
GodsMustBeCrazy Excellent, thank you!
What a game! Although you lost eventually, you fought very nicely to the end and I’ve learned a lot regarding ideas for both sides in the Classical King’s Indian. Another idea for Black is to play a5 - this was played against a Petrosian Line that I used as White - I replied a4 and was crushed after Black made good use of the c5 square for his Knight - perhaps I should have played a3 and b4 to kick the Knight instead.
Thanks, I'm happy to hear you found it interesting! I love the King's Indian...for White!! :) and am familiar with many of those things you are speaking of. Good luck in your future games, and thanks again!
Very interesting game. And respectable, that you showed us a lost game of yourself. In the Kings Indian white often stands better and has a space adavantage, but black has good tactical chances. White can easily go wrong. I don't like the KID and avoid to play it with each colour, because it is hard for me to handle it right. Thanks a lot, Dereque.
You bet! Thank you, thank you, thank you as well!
Great video, as always! As you pointed out along the way, both players made several mistakes. I am wondering about white's first mistake, which was moving bishop to e1 (@22:45). As you stated, Rg1 would have been better, especially since you use the bishop to capture shortly thereafter, making the move to e1 pointless in the end. My question for you is, why did you move Be1? Were you providing cover to the pawn on b4 so you could free up the knight on d3? Or was there a different reason? I also think Be1 was not the best move because it blocks the queen and rook connection. Thanks for the great video Krishna!
I love your videos. This one was really really nice. Great analysis, very clear. im glad you are uploading more videos.
+Juan Manuel Vallejo Great to hear, and thank you! :)
Beautiful Game !
+Mohamed Ahmed Taher :)
Learned a lot from here. Thank you so much
Thank you! :)
Very brave and aggressive game. Thanks for sharing!
Brock Lee You bet!
Big fan here! Beautiful explanation of the game.
+Ragunathan Pattabiraman Thank you! :)
Great video, very instructive. I didnt see that lost coming 😀
That was sharp !
+Jules Tube Yes, pretty amazing! Thank you for the kind words! :)
Great teaching, very instructive!
Much appreciated, thank you!! :)
Rarely do masters show their losses as beautiful games. A full bravo for Dereque Kelley!
+Muhammet YILDIZ Thank you for the kind words, I'm glad you found the video unique and interesting! :)
Dereque you are truly gifted. I only trust your analyses.
+Donovan M Jones :) :)
Awesome video. I really enjoy your visible enthusiasm, presenting this very interesting game.
JudasInocenti Thank you :)
Dereque Kelley I really enjoy watching your videos. I've already subscribed to you.
***** Thanks, I appreciate it!
I love your videos and I always learn so much!! Thank you Dereque Kelley!
IAmTheOneCarrot Thank you!!
A very, very beautiful game, congratulations. Thank you so much for the analysis which was great by the way and keep it coming...
WinterSkySun :) Thank you
12:48 in Stockfish, white knight is not played in Ne1 instead developing his pawns or bishop, if black plays Nd7 and F5, white plays Ng5 and jump to Ne6.
This is a position where Stockfish's judgement is probably not helpful. It's a very interesting idea, and some players have tried like this, but the position requires foresight of a strategic nature which many computers struggle with (not many tactical interactions) Thank you Jonellski for stopping by, it's much appreciated!!
Great and very well explained !!!
Ronen Bassan Gracias!
Love this video I think its one of my favorites
Great! Glad to hear:) Thank you :)
Nick is my state champion he is pretty good too. Nice video as always.
Thank
great videos. so much useful ... opening videos are very good
+Naruto Windy Really great to hear, thank you!
Woow I have no words ! you are the best !
Hey thank you so much!! :)
Another brilliant video.
Manoj Patil Thank you!
Great video!
Wow.. very nice and very instructive game . thanks for sharing.. keep it up NM Kelly :)
TheUprightRebellion :)
Thank you for this perspective!
Welcome, weclome!!! Thank you for much, I truly appreciate the kind remark! :)
Wow, you are "the man" to show such a good game and explain it like you did and it's really one of your "heart break loses" I would bet. Thanks for sharing this game, it really takes some stones to show a game you lost, but I can tell you have taken great pride (as you should) playing that level of chess and being right on the verge of victory.
Mark Goewey :)
Do you have a video on the petrov defence? If you don't, I think that you should because you explain things well :)
Love the graphics at the beginning. Well done.
+Chess64 Gracias :)
how sweetly you analyze I like your smile.
Great to hear, thank you :)
Great analysis.
Excellent, thank you!! :)
Awesome! Thx
Beautiful, man!
+sanekabc Thank you!
Wonderful video !
Luca Molari Thank you!!
Great memories of this game when I played this tourn 5 years ago! 😝
+joey jojo :)
Awesome lessons
Domini Gai Thank you!
i thought you are black , just kidding , i enjoyed your video , it was so great , its my 1st time to watch a full video of chess without forwarding it . hope to see more of your videos , thanks for this
Tik kak :) You bet!
THANK YOU!!
You bet ! :)
Nice game! The kind you lose but still gain in strength.
:) Thank you!
Bobby Fischer won many great games with the Kings Indian
Indeed!! :)
beautiful game thanks for sharing
+guy russo Thank you, you bet!! :)
This are the games, that the spectators want to see - what a pity you lost, but you smiled afterwards. Loosing is also a thread - sounds funny, but you are a good looser! Thanx for that Video!
Walküre Unruh LOL! :)
Dereque, will you make any more videos in the future? It'd be great to see you commentate on classic GM games. .
+Pete West Yes, some videos should be here within a month! I like that idea, thank you! :)
Thanks, Dereque. I'm learning a lot from your videos. Look forward to seeing the new ones :)
Hi dereque, what is the opening that you played? And if you haven't already, can you make a CZcams video of that opening ? I'm quite interested in it
Christian Pelea This is the King's Indian! There is a video on it, and a small collection of IPhone/Android apps to be released very soon on just this subject :)
thank you sir
Thank you!
I really enjoyed this one! The analysis is great, and also the surprise that the catastrophe happened for the white pieces :-). Kelley is really a gracious loser, I take my hat.
zeycus :)
@ 4:30 how about 7...e6 transposing into a benoni without the dreaded taimonov?
I recently have bought 100 Awesome Chess moves by ERIC SCHILLER where many sacrifice of chess piece have been illustrated in simple steps
What a fun game! I'm curious - early on is it not worth it for white to play dxe when black plays e5? is added the control over the open d file + tactically winning the pawn back good for black?
Nope, this is well known to cause issues for White in the long run and he even has a minus score. It has something to do with that bishop on e2 and pawn on c4 getting in each other's way and the long-term vulnerability of the d4-square for an occupation by Black. Black has good chances of the Initiative if White plays dxe5 :)
I learned a lot.
DaarkMana :)
Thank you for these videos! Would you do a colle- zuckertort where black finachettos the king's Bishop like the KID but has his pawn on d5? The zuckertort works well against slav players but not so great against KID players. Thanks in advance.
Thank you for the suggestion!! If at all possible I'd love to do this one and ALL the suggestions!! :) :)
Respected Sir,send d vedio on budapest gambit and also tell that who can take advantage from this opening W or B.also tell about the all variation in deep if possible-love u master so much:-):-)jai shri krishn
lakhan sharma LOL, I enjoy the suggestion! and love u too :)
@27:32 ..- c5-c4
would block the undercover check threat the queen and take the e pawn with bishop...
or wrong am i ??
You're not wrong. He already replied to someone else in the comments with the same idea. Nice catch.
Excuse me, when white plays g3 (in 23:00 minutes) why not black plays f3 atacking the bishop? thank you and sorry for my bad english.
Your English is superb :) ...f3 can be met by gxh4 (forced) ...fxe2 Qxe2 (forced) when White is ahead a pawn and the king is safe :)
Dereque Kelley ok thank you
What will it take to play chess with you? You are amazing!!
Timothy Huerta :) Sometimes I am on Chess.com or ICC as MrPetrov! :)
utter catastrophe :P out of interest, could white have first: pin the 2 knights to queen with Bg5, then Qd2and then attack the bishop with Bh6? attack the king side? or would that take too much time?
This strategy is occasionally used for White in the King's Indian. :)
I used to not think much of the Kings Indian Defense as a white player, until one day I was playing an 1800 rated player and I didnt know the typical queenside counterplay plans for white in the kings indian so i got ripped to shreds on the kingside. The Kings Indian is a very dangerous weapon for black and while I dont play it myself bc it doesnt fit my style, it is very easy to get crushed by it. To this day I rarely play 4. e4 systems against it and sometimes play 2. Nf3 instead of 2. c4; not to avoid the Nimzo Indian or anything like that, just the Kings Indian
Very interesting, thanks for sharing! :)
Good game!!
+americo 1980 Thank yoU!! :)
What about Pawn H4 at the end would that have saved you?
At 27:30 it seems to me that the tactic Nxc7 fails to Rxc7 and if d6+ then you missed ... c4! counter-attacking the white queen. Oops!
+Toxie207 Oops indeed! Good catch!
Kelley vs Rapist?
Maaan....story of my life .... :( ;) :)
seems that you have a masters degree or even phd, you are great!
+jose corbett Just a B.A.! :) Thank you! ;)
I think Nick Raptis is from Portland, Oregon.
Names are used frequently in chess circles but I'd prefer not to give any further commentary about where he's from because maybe he wouldn't like that, I don't really know! hi from Seattle though! :) -Krishna