How to Plant into Cover Crops (4K)
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- Every year during springtime, we get many calls about how we successfully plant into our high biomass cover crops. In this video, we detail what we've learned about what works and what doesn't on planter setup into high biomass (30,000+ lbs/acre) cover crops.
This video is not meant to be a definitive guide on how to plant into cover crops. It is meant to show you what works for us and to give you some ideas that you may be able to implement on your farm. Hopefully some of these tips will help you take your farm to the next level of sustainability.
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I'm not a farmer and I had never heard of cover crops. I find it very interesting how it works. There is so much to know in farming to be efficient at it.
Thank you for an insightful and educational video. Well worth the time spent watching it. Cheers from Australia.
The image of the scissor action created by the trash scraper on your toothed row cleaner was exactly what id never seen before and really needed to see. Thank you and God bless.
Most informative no till planting video I have viewed. Good, simple information.
You explain the steps of planting very well. I may not know how to operate farm machinery, but I now understand how the attachments operate to get the seeds into the ground.
I ended up here at random, and learned so much about no-till farming. This has to be the most truthful and honest commentary so far. Thank you!
Thanks!
I love how you stress that it is what works for you, in your context. Great vid,my brother!
Excellent presentation of your personal journey to making no-till work. Thanks for sharing.
Those fields are so beautiful with the covers on them. Almost looks like a national park reserve! Great work!
Thank yall a lot for this video! I am going to begin implementing some cover crops this coming season and you offered some great information on that!
Thanks for sharing your experience on planter setup for planting green. Yours was the first video I had seen that spoke of the best row cleaners/closing system/coulter vs. no coulter etc.
What you are doing is the way to do it! I notill and wish I had that much residue to plant into. Great job!
Definitely appreciate your insight. Many blessings to you and your farm this year
Thanks for the kind words!
WHEN WE FARMED WE RAN FORD,AND NEW HOLLAND TRACTORS.I HAD A GENESIS 8770 front wheel drive loved that tractor.
Thanks Matt that was a very helpful video.
I subscribed, and liked. Very well done video, a lot of information given. I am currently doing soil science classes and enjoy the forward thinking and practical application of these newer ag practices. Thank you again for your time, knowledge and experience! Very well done!
Thanks for the tips. For organic farming, we’re putting in rye cover crop for this winter and fava beans in a smaller field. Next spring, we’ll try mowing the rye and then tilling in narrow rows for row crops between the rye grass stubble. Hopefully that will help keep the weeds down between rows of vegetables. Watsonville, CA
Thank you...great information!!
This is the future of agriculture!!
Thank you!
Great stuff, thanks.
God Bless. Thank you for the information and thoughtful insights. Wishing you all the best and good health. Greetings from Portugal
Great job Professor 👍
Very informative!
I notill as well and my planter looks like something out of the road warrior cause I have so many coulters per row. I cover crop and plant green and works awesome! You need the planter set up right. Great video!
Great sharing of information. You have a wealth of experience , and ded an exlent job of sharing .Thank You.
Thanks for the video.
Man just thinking how much you are building that soil is amazing at the least I bet the beneficials are thriving in that soil 10 years of that bet the organic matter is around 4 to 5% good job on vidge
I'm growing field peas after corn harvest this year on a few acres. Big and viney. I terminated some early, and waiting to see a hard freeze kill the rest. I have martin row cleaners and Thompson closing wheels which I've really liked for straight no till. I shouldn't be planting green, but we will see. Thanks for all the information.
We farm in Kazakhstan. That is in Central Asia. I salute you my friend!
Wow. What do you grow over there?
THOSE BLUE TRACTORS LOOK GOOD!!!!!
Billy Scruggs don’t they though!
That was a great video!
Brasil o pioneiro na tecnologia do plantio direto na palhada.
Well done.
thank You Sir.
Thank you amigo
band super over the row of corn it will feed and help the biome around the corn seed
slugs where not to much of a problem it was mice for me! little Sh!ts went right down the rows and picked that corn seed right out of the ground
this is great info. Thanks!
Though Im not pro round up, the rest was insightful 🤙
Fantastic info! I've worked on a farm for 4 years, and I'm finally renting ground for myself. Im doing 5 acres for testing crimping methods, as well as nitrogen applications. I was wondering what mix you use? As well as lbs per acre
Years ago I was picking cotton on one of our fields and I was walking along the turning row I pulled a cotton stalk up near our turn in into the field the ground was softer but that stalk had a perfect curly Q where the crust had stopped the growth and either we had gotten a shower to soften the crust but it continued to grow and emerge but as i said it was a perfect curly Q roughly half inch from top ground surface.
If I could give you ten up-votes I would!!!
Very informative and some great points! How do you like those blue tractors?
I tryed last year of green cover crop and I lost yelds it might be me but I guess I have to keep practicing truly it was a disaster I went back to tilling the land and planted corn so far looks great
I definitely hear you on the coulter thing, take those darn things off. One thing I'd always do different, and keep in mine, I'm way north of you, that could be why it works better for me, but we graze our cover crops. The cow is King here. What the cattle can't keep up with, I'll run over with two big 5 deck mower set ups and the next day merge it up and blow it into a wagon to be ensiled. I'm always going to plant into standing covers, not roll first, because I can over lap two processes. The covers need to rebound from being grazed or clipped, and that seed is going to take long enough to emerge, then it's going to be essentially a sprout, which will grow on total darkness. It doesn't even have the capability of photosynthesis, and up until about v1, it survives the crimper. That can easily mean another 10-12" of carbon based biomass.
We're organic, so can't speak to how well spray stripping works. Best of luck this year, hope it works out great for you.
I’d love to graze too but I simply don’t have the time, manpower, knowledge, fencing, facilities, etc to do it.
We crimp before the planter runs because of my planter design. The front units will grab anything viny(vetch, winter pea) and drag it to the edge of the field.
Thanks for the information. We started cover crops on our operation in 2010 and been doing it to this day. We had a yield lag the first couple years and almost scratched it off. Since then our corn and soy yields kept improving year after year. Did you notice anything similar?
Yes
Need information on adequate termination of hairy vetch in the spring with cereal rye.
Im starting into this regen farming style. On my planter i have martins up front and schafert mowhawlks on the back. If i plant into green standing cover and roll after planting; will that solve the wrapping issue?
Thanks for this video I’m located in middle TN and I plan on planting a cover crop this fall. This has definitely helped on how I need to set my planter up. Also are you spraying before you roll/crimp?
Yes we also spray Gramaxone in front of the crimper because we have annual ryegrass in our mix and a crimper is not effective on it
@@griggsfarmsllc Have you considered planting all the cover crop (variety) that can be crimped effectively so that you don't have to spray chemicals, which ultimately affect the microbes negatively, which is counterproductive to an extent.
@@greighenning9091 no because each species I use has a specific purpose and benefit that out weight the cost of using a herbicide
I really need to Tint my Sprayer windows too. I'm leaning towards a 20%. What have you found out to be best in your sprayers?
20% on sides and back, 35% on windshield is what we run
Im nkt a fan of coulters either.
How do you think that closeing set up would do not spraying strips or having row cleaners? I have the v closing set up myself and constantly have to adjust to keep them working right.
It’ll definitely work better than the V closing wheels
When you spray your strips and then come back with the roller at planting, how much trouble do you have with the cover crop rolling down on top of the sprayed strip? Or if you are using RTK guidance maybe it doesn’t matter, the planter is running in the strip whether its covered with crimped cover crop or not.
If the cover crop is thick enough it can cover the row somewhat. But it’s real easy for the row cleaners to clear it back out because it’s not attached to the soil in the row
Ive used cereal rye for 5 years at the 40lb/acre rate. Excellent results with one issue. If I have cereal rye that has been vertical tilled in the corn stalks the previous fall and if I want to plant beans into the cereal rye in the first week of May, I will have 3 foot tall cereal rye and the ground will be wet. My no-til and vertical tilled ground next to it will be dried out 1-2 days before my ground with cereal rye on it. I want the bio mass growth, but I can't risk more than 40-50% of my ground covered with cereal rye. With the moisture draw in the growing of that biomass I would have assumed the ground with cereal rye would have dried down 1-2 days prior to the adjacent ground with no cover crop. Has that been your experience? Thanks, up on the IL/WI state line.
Marshall Newhouse my experience has been that if the cover crops are actively growing in the spring, they will dry your field out faster, sometimes way too fast. I assume you’re talking about planting into living rye. If the rye is terminated before you plant, I can definitely see the soil taking longer to dry out.
But rye is pulling moisture out of the whole profile too, similar to tile. Not just in the top 2-3 inches where your planter runs.
And the saturation levels in your fields should improve after growing covers for several years as the soil structure improves, allowing water to percolate down through the profile.
I've wanted to try this for two years now. It is a little scary. Some of the ideas I had this video discouraged me from trying. I know soil health is important but getting a stand is also.
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Great video! I’m been considering cover crops but not certain if I should terminate them and plant into them while they’re green or wait until it’s dead. I do conventional and no till 30 inch corn and 15 inch soybeans. Because of compaction I try to inline rip a third of my ground every year. Do you plant your soybeans into green cover crop as well?
Yes we plant our soybeans into green cover crops too. Generally into standing covers and run the crimper behind the planter.
I would encourage you to try planting green too, but only on a very small acreage at first to figure out what difficulties you’ll face.
Griggs Farms LLC I appreciate your quick response to my question. I’m in Tupelo, MS that’s not to far from you. I have a 360 acre farm that packs hard every year and I think a cover crop mix with tillage radishes would help it a lot. I rip this farm every year and it gets expensive with fuel and points and time. It’s all a 340 Magnum can do to pull a 7 shank Case in-line ripper. I have it planted in corn this year and I think
I’ll rip it and plant cover crops this fall.
Ricky Ivey along with radishes I would also try annual ryegrass. It is considered a super crop with a very extensive root system that will penetrate hard pans. The roots also exude a substance that will turn subsoil into topsoil over time.
Griggs Farms LLC I will definitely do that.
How do you plant your cover crop.. I was just going to say I am in Iowa and we cover crop even done inter seeding into corn when it's knee high.. but what I was getting we built a air seeder that has 12 -18-12 spacing.. that way when we come back in the spring we have a nice 18 inch wide strip to plant into works really well doing that
We drill everything after harvest
Maybe u should try to seed your drill up in spacing like we did you will love how it works
@@griggsfarmsllcto add or seeder is a 40ft Moore tool bar with hinker seed box and meter rolls with a air delivery system to hinker row units
Would a strip till system work with this amount of green cover? I don’t have a crimper, and was thinking my ripper stripper might be able to provide an adequate seed bed in front of the planter. In the past, I’ve terminated the cover chemically prior to planting but would like to try green. Do you think it would work? Thanks in advance.
It probably would. Probably about the same as the termination strips I spray. But it would have to be done early enough before much green matter had accumulated
@@griggsfarmsllc Thanks for the reply and for your video. I know your time is important. Thanks for sharing it with others.
So Yetter shark toth would work also?
5 ER I don’t know. Haven’t tried them
oh gawd no. say no to roundup. seems to me that a micro tiller that rips the top inch of soil in a 6inch wide strip and then grinds it up and dumps it back down where it came from would be more than enough to kill any competition for your cotton or corn. just say no to extra expenses like roundup that persist in the soil. modern camera sensors combined with a wheel hoe on either side of your planting rows pulled by your tractor could also be used after planting to take out any undesired weed pressure. i'm betting that the cost of running the equipment through the field one more time instead of spraying poison would be cheaper for bio fuels than the chemicals cost.
a goal of no-till + cover crop is to reduce equipment passes across the field. Why? Each pass with heavy equipment increases soil compaction. It also burns a lot of additional diesel fuel. Careful use of herbicides (as demonstrated in video) is a good management decision. On Round Up, there are many competing herbicides, most of which are partly or completely made from petroleum refined products. Round Up is essentially a salt. If Round Up is banned, Big Oil wins again. Don’t be fooled, many competing herbicides are more dangerous than Round Up.
Glysofate in general is a anti biotic to the ground . Hence , it kills the micro biological world wherever it is used . I do like the hood sprayer idea but would investigate other spray options if I could .
Have you tried to kill the rest of the cover crop strips with the crimper? and wouldn't it be okay if some of the cover crops didnt get killed but instead grew side by side with the cash crop?
Crimper doesn’t kill all the species I uses
@@griggsfarmsllc I would love to see what such a trail would look like during the growing season
Great info. I'm just wondering if many livestock producers, in mixed farming (cropping/ livestock) operations, could bring themselves to leave such great feed on the ground. But I guess if building soil is the priority, they would have to.
Actually adding cattle to a system like this would accelerate the soil improvement if managed correctly.
Grazing encourages root growth and livestock add microbes to the soil through their saliva and manure. Nutrients can be recycled quicker and be available to plants sooner. The only downfall to grazing cattle is that weed control during the crop would suffer some as there wouldn’t be as much biomass for shading the ground.
@@griggsfarmsllc there are guys who have figured out how to do this correctly and successfully, which is really cool in my opinion
Do you use livestock? and if not, are you planning to add livestock to your cover crop practice?
Good question I know a farmer that uses cattle and he said it’s beneficial to the cattle and adds the bio matter to the crop
There's a machine they use in Zero graze operations which mows the cover crop and carries the cut (clippings) off to feed animals. Creating a valuable commodity which can be used for baling, silage or direct feeding. They're quick, generate low ground pressure and can be adjusted to leave as much of the plant and residue as you wish. The ground is now ready for immediate planting and the chopped up residue is less likely to jam wheels. I guess you don't use animals to consume your cover in place which would be Regen Ag gold as their 'leavings' are highly beneficial to your soil's health. Perhaps consider temporary agistment, or finishing, as another way to make money off your cover crop before you turn to planting. Roundup is, or should be the last consideration as people (consumers with real dollars to spend), as they get smarter about what Regen Ag is doing for them will avoid farm produce that used fertiliser and biocides.
Thanks for the informative chat. Every thinking farmer is needed.
Yes we’re not set up to graze and really have no desire or time to do so even though I agree that you are correct in it really adding benefits.
I’m not a fan of removing the forage from the field and feeding it someplace else as that removes a tremendous amount of nutrients from the field, reduces the amount of organic matter built, and reduces weed control in the crop year. It would be an additional source of revenue but I think it would be cost prohibitive to replace the nutrients removed at current fertilizer prices.
@@griggsfarmsllc Thanks for replying. I can hope the mowing idea might set off a new train of thought - mostly because the continued use of biocides could cost you one day. Cheers.
i have a problem with snail (slug) in cc what do you suggest
No insecticide seed treatment or spraying insecticide at burn down. Get your seed trench closed. Wait to plant in good conditions with warm temperatures following. All of this was covered in the video
@@griggsfarmsllc I listened carefully and everything was done so but the current problem is the humidity in the ground that I waited for the warm weather the cash crop would be late. what if the population of the snail continues to increase
@@griggsfarmsllc Thank you for your response
@@griggsfarmsllc the video is very good and honest
Momcilo Vucic I understand about the cash crop being late but it would be better to have a late crop than to have a crop devastated by slugs that could likely need replanting.
The key is to not do anything to harm the beneficial predators with insecticides.
But it sounds like you are already past that point. There are baits you can use to kill slugs but they are expensive and difficult to apply. And by this point it is likely too late. I’ve also heard of others applying heavy rates of potash at night when slugs are active. Supposedly the high salt content of potash will kill slugs. But I think this would only be marginally successful.
The bottom line is that to deal with slugs, all preparations need to be made at planting. Once they start feeding on seedlings, there’s not a lot you can do
Hey man, what happened to the show?
SuperSloth your guess is as good as mine. We were never told anything except that the future of the show was being “evaluated “
@@griggsfarmsllc I was looking forward to the second season.
SuperSloth so were we! Lol. But for now you’ll just have to be satisfied with what we put on CZcams. I know our stuff isn’t as professional but you’ll get more insight into our farming operation. We also do frequent “live” videos from the farm on Facebook if you’re on that platform.
Cutting 1- 2 inches into the ground when planting the seeds won't hurt the soil's microbiology?
How did people plant seeds through the cover crops in the past when they did not have tractors?
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