Why The Airbus A319neo Hasn’t Been Popular
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- The Airbus A319neo is by far the least successful A320neo variant out there. Overshadowed heavily by the A320neo and A321neo, Airbus has persisted with the aircraft and continues to describe the aircraft as “game-changing.” So why isn’t it popular?
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Everybody gangsta till the a318 neo gets built
Wait till the A317neo comes out to replace the 76-100 seat regional market, and the A316neo to replace the 50-75 seat market.
The A318neo won’t happen, they already have the A220 for the 100-150 seats sector.
Wait until the a322neo!
@@nguyenhoangan-matt it a joke
@@antbotsquad6769 Airbus a323neo is better
I think airlines like Easyjet and Spirit will get their hands on some A319neos in a few years time as low fare airlines need fleet commonality.
This is the best answer to this video.
The Airbus A319neo is perfect for Danish Air Transport because Danish Air Transport is a scheduled and charter airline.
Didn't age well
At 01:49...shouldn't the black bar on the top right say A319?
Yup.. typo error
I love this channel...great content very informative.
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The A220 has the highest percentage of it's type flying of any aircraft type due to it's low cost and high efficiency.
Delta Air Lines is parking all 62 of its A320s but still flying its 31 A220-100s
I didn’t know that the a319 neo existed
That proves how unpopular it is
Exactly
There was even a318
I did
Bruh, it's my favorite plane because it looks cute and small, the ceo version tho
Great video, great channel. I hadn’t heard of it before but have subscribed. Keep it up!
I looked at the title and I thought, "Wait, that's a thing?"
@thatonesalami same
Stop reading my fucking mind!!!!
@@josearmandoguerrerochairez3454 aight then
@@G-546 there is 737 max6
@@G-546 yea ik 736 but there is also conning a 737 max 6
The A220 has advantage in the purchase cost - 10 million USD less than a A319 neo, the fuel consumption is 10-20% lower (based on data found online) so it is no brainer, that it cought more traction than the A319. But I believe, that there will be a spot for A319 for the operators, that have the larger types. AirBaltic is an example of the other approach as they simply unified the fleet with full A220 type, so A319 would not really make sense. And the other thing - A220 is a design about 20 years younger with larger windows and sexy nose :)
Yeah I love the looks of the A220
Thank you for sharing the information
It’s interesting that you picked Spirit as a typical A319 customer. I flew for Spirit for eleven years and can explain its continuing popularity with that model. Spirit deploys this version on long haul, thin routes for which the A320 is not suitable because of range constraints and the A321neo would be too large for the market or the destination runway length. Spirit flies it A319 on non-stop routes such as Lima, Peru which is a 5+ hour flight from Ft. Lauderdale, it’s principal international hub airport. High altitude airports such as Medellin, Columbia are a challenge for the A320 and A321. Even US flying between the East and West coasts are also 5+!hour flights for which the A319!is better suited for non-stop flights. Even if it weren’t for the Covid pandemic problems for the airlines, lower capacity Airbus aircraft can offer a more profitable opportunity. But, with fewer passengers flying these days, it is better to utilize the slightly lower fuel burn capability of the lighter weight A319 rather the larger capacity models. Spirit will need to start replacing its older A319co aircraft soon, and that is also part of their rationale for ordering so many A319neo models.
Correct and also A319neo is designed to compete with B737 Max 7 for hot and high airports like Denver Bogota. California SNA John Wayne
The A319 NEO, A330-800 NEO, A380, Boeing 737 Max 7 and the Boeing 747-8 all share one thing. They are not selling. But they are still successful in their own special ways
Meanwhile the clean sheet CSeries/A220 cannot be manufactured fast enough to meet demand.
@@AirShark95 sadly
the A380 and the 747 aren't successful because they're too big and they're quadjets
@@airbus_a320neo yeah
@@AirShark95 Neither can the A320neo and A321neo family
Honestly, despite having never flown on one, I like the A319. It just has more character than a 320 or 321.
Climbs like a stabbed rat.
It’s all because of A220-300. Even before the Airbus rebrand it had outsold both A319neo and 737 Max 7 by 3 to 1, now with the rebrand its 5 to 1
Was looking for this comment and was surprised it wasn't mentioned in the video
Haven't been on an A220, but I can tell you that I generally enjoy the A319 over a B717 or a 737-700 as a passenger. And that's even with American Airlines
Spirit A319’s have the most uncomfortable seats I’ve experienced. But their prices are so much cheaper (on the routes that I fly) that it’s worth it to me. Occasionally Alaska is close in price and they are much more comfortable (A321 and 737-900) The A319 itself is fine and has always gotten me home.
Cheers
I'm not fan of the 737-700/800.
Spotted a a319Neo today flying near the Toulouse factory on Flightradar24
The a220-300 and the a319 neo are overlapping in customer base, but it is still good for airbus to have both. It was not to expensive to build (due to communality with 320neo), but still has some customers of niches that airbus wants to fill. The a220-300 is great for airlines like swiss (they got rid of their a319 ceos for a220s), because they operate a220-100 and a220-300 for the efficient low demand routes and have quite an ammount of these aircraft. They had a320 ceos and a321ceos and are replacing those with neos.
On the other hand airlines that operate mostly higher demand routes would need a lot of additional pilot training for just a hand full of a220-300 if they have no market for the a220-100. Also the business jet market loves the a319neo due to its range and space in the cabin.
I completely agree that the A220 is affecting the sales. Found and Explained was also explaining that airlines are finding it a better fit for these smaller routes.
The A220 is a much more pleasant ride.
The only advantage the A319Neo has over the A220-300 is that it shares a type rating with the A320Neo and compatibility with its Ceo counterpart.
There won't be a third generation of the A319. Airbus already makes a superior product in the same niche. They will probably allocate the manufacturing capacity to the more profitable A321 and A320.
the a320 and a321 arent the same size, when they stop making the a319, the power will go into the newer a220 family
Don't forget the A319s ability to take standard containers
United Airlines has actually acquired ised A319ceos from China Southern over the past few years and just recently acquired one from EasyJet so I don’t think UA will be in the market soon for the A319neo.
I've only seen 1 A319neo over my home this summer, was going to land at Le Bourget (LFPB). I think I will never see one again...
I doubt it when you have the a220-300 that is a lot smaller and probably, more economical to buy and to fuel !
The A318 was killed off already by other planes that can operate at a lower cost.
Can you make a video about who are the airline operators of another Rarebus model, the A319LR?
When i first saw this i thought it meant the a320 neo was unpopular.
The A319neo was developed before Airbus took over the CSeries programme. Since the A220's are cheaper than the A319neo, are more versatile in regards to flight operations and is a clean sheet design, the A319neo is in essence a 'redundent' model with a limited market in the business/corporate jet market. I see Airbus quickly remove the A319neo from their product range.
What a Machine
There is still plenty of time for orders to be placed for all aircraft models in production. The available delivery dates are far enough in the future that it makes sense to use air shows or other events that raise publicity and thus share price to make announcements. Ordering now vs March makes no difference.
FYI, when comparing the A220 & A319, you referred to the A319 but listed it on screen as A320. I know what you meant, honest mistake, but others might be confused.
i love A319 my favorite,,
I wonder what the listed price difference is between the A220-300 and A319neo??? My airline is retiring the last of our A319’s and hasn’t made any announcements about new orders for the A319neos.
as of 2018, the list price of the a319neo is $101.5 million, the a220-300 costs $91.5 mil. so ye, the a223 is $10m cheaper. also, what airline do u work for?
@@airbus_a320neo gotcha. I guess 10 mil would be a easy deciding factor. I fly with F9.
there was a A319 Neo why have I not heard of this till now.
I think in ten years we'll have an A220-500 and a replacement for the A320 family that is slightly larger. Eg A320, A321 and slightly larger than 757-200. That would remove the overlap with the efficienct A220 family.
Now some airlines want an A220-500 to cannibalize on the A320NEO
What accounts for the reduced range of the a220-300 compared to the a319? Assuming it is less fuel capacity? The a220 seems to be so much more efficient than the a319, so that would be a logical assumption I'm guessing...
The A319 is 8,000 kilos heavier.
It also has more powerful engines and a higher fuel burn...not to mention the fact it costs over $10 million more.
This is the video which made me remember that the A319neo Exists. I forgot about a319 and a318 💀
The same way shrinks never work we’ve seen the same thing with the max 7. It’s too heavy with all the built-ins for the larger airplanes in the series.
the max 7 isn't a shrink if you think about it
Yeah, they have similar fuel burn to A320neo. Why would most airlines want to buy it.
I didnt even know that there was a A319neo
You should see the information of sfecification about A320neo family on Wikipedia,it Will be clear .
Maybe low sales misses something here: If shop 'A' stops selling a useful, but low-selling item, but shop 'B' sells the equivalent of its own brand, then the customer may go to shop 'B' instead, and do all their shopping there, and then buys nothing from shop 'A'.
I think the A319neo probably won't sell many more units because realistically, the A220 is a similar size, a clean sheet aircraft, and will have much better efficiency too.
I think the A220 will likely replace the A319 and possibly the A320 too family in the future if Airbus makes stretched versions of the A220.
The only reason I could see any Airline opting for the A319Neo over the newer A220 is to keep fleet communality and keep training costs to a minimum, That being said, if the A220 is so much cheaper to operate than the A319neo, the cost of training pilots on the A220 would be covered by what they'd save in operating costs.
It's good for starter airlines
With the a220-300
It may get more orders in the future even though A220 is more efficient. As more A320 Ceo other older airbus pilots lose their job due to this crisis, cometh the next 3-5 years we may see more orders in addition to the push to zero net carbon emissions, this will be more cost effective solution, especially in the US market more than European market where the latter have more stringent requirements
Would an A220-500 cannibalize sales from the A320neo?
Absolutely. That’s why you have not heard much from Airbus about the 500. It’s so much more profitable program to 320. 220 is a loss leader with very low production.
I would say so. I personally would say the future of the A32x family lies in the A321, specially the LR and XLR variants as they are primed to fill the void left by the departure of the 757, and to help airlines recover in a post COVID market. The A220 is a superior aircraft, and A220-500 could (on paper) out perform the A320neo on quite a few parameters. The A220 could become Airbus' new narrowbody platform for the foreseeable future while the A321 compliments it on the higher capacity narrowbody market.
No, the A220-500 wont cannibalize sales from the A320neo
Cebu Pacific (Philippines) also has A319 in its fleet.
Yeng Sabio not anymore. They’ve all been sold to Allegiant. By 2024 most of Cebu Pacific’s fleet will be composed of A321neo.
@@tarmacpounder785 Since when their A319s were sold?
Yeng Sabio last one left the fleet in 2019, IIRC.
@@tarmacpounder785 Copy that! Great update, eh mate!
If i have a airlines company sure i Will be coose it apart from A320/321neo.i interesting with it shortness.
Indigo, Airbus' thick bestie, should buy these..
next can you do a video was Ryanair ever interested in Airbus,Bombardier etc.
and I do think that orders will pick up
Spirit is a flying school bus.
You think Because it colour ?
Most people probably didn't even know it existed
I did
Take a shot for every time ‘a319 NEO’ is mentioned
According to Wikipedia, Spirit has only 25 A319neos on order.
When you start your sentence with: "According to Wikipedia"...
I'm sure an a318 neo would do horribly worse 😹😹😹😹😸😸😸😸
I dont think there will ever be an A318neo
@@shahimagesyt duh thats why they havent made it
The A318 has been discontinued, unfortunately.
Just like the 175-E2 that was offered and no one bought.
Basically the same operating cost as a 320 with 30 less available seats. About the only advantage might be a little shorter runway requirement. Frontier drops 320neos into Trenton, NJ which has a 6k runway. Where is any airline going to fly where they need to land shorter than that? I am blown away that Spirit would have 54 of these on order. Seems like a total waste of potential resources. Honestly, I can't believe Airbus has any orders for the 319.
The cost of operating an A319 NEO and anA320 NEO are almost the same for the airlines, but the 320 carries more passengers, the airlines have more seats for sale and can make more money. That’s the reason any airlines will order a 320 instead of a 319.
Don't forget Embraer E195 E2
The A319NEO is a great option, esp for ULCC's. Unfortunately, Airbus is a victim of its own success. They essentially have 2 of the same aircraft when you compare the A220 & A319NEO. While they may get some sales from carriers that already fly the A320/321CEO based solely on commonality, saving $$ on training, most carriers will prob go w/the A220.
Wonder how many of the A319's that AA has came from the US Airways merger...
None were purchased new by AA. Most came from US Airways (and most of US’s A319’s were former America West birds if I recall). However, around 2019 they picked up a ton of USED A319’s from FRONTIER 😂 (F9 had replaced the A319 with A320neos, and AA likely picked up the fleet on-the-cheap)
Honestly!!!!! Airbus should discontinue production of the A319s and just focus on the A220s since both planes are around the same size and since most people like the newer A220s better!!!!!! Yea Airbus should stop with the A319s and focus on the A220s now
With so many common parts it doesn't really cost much to keep offering it despite the low sales. It makes sense to keep a fleet all the same type instead of adding a new model in.
More importantly the 319 is built on the same line as the more popular 320s.
this one will most probably be a slow burner, when easyjet or BA etc come to overhaul its fleet in years to come perhaps they will choose the A319neo.......
The a319 unpopularity has only one word Embraer
A220s,F**k Embraer
I think Airbus now have too many aircraft models in the 150 - 200 passenger carrying fleet. The A220 is competing with the A319neo, as well as the A319 trying to attract orders from the A320 and A321 base models.
The Airbus A319neo is a perfect Airbus aircraft for charter airlines, but which charter airlines should order the Airbus A319neo?
Good question. Full service airlines DL to replace their 737-732s if needed UA replace part of their 737-724s.
after this generation, the a319neos and a320neos are gonna be replaced by the more modern a220-300 and a220-500. the only probable survivor this time is the a321
I seriously hope Airbus doesn't do this. The A220 was designed to fit in between the sizes of regional jets and the larger single aisle jets built by Airbus and Boeing (A320 and 737). Its intended role is quite different to the A320neo's intended role and so forcing it into the role of the A320neo is just a bad idea
Bruh I haven’t even heard of a A319neo that’s how unpopular it is lol
A318 NEO: *laughs in non existant*
Shrinks never sell as well - too heavy and is getting killed off by the A220--300.
Just get an A320NEO
We all tought the 333 wouldn’t sell a lot either, being a slow seller until economics changed the game and everybody and his grandma wanted one. Don’t write off the 319neo just yet
A lot of planes proff that small planes are less efficient and less efficient equals worst
Hopefully British airways and Lufthansa could take up some
Bombardier C series is why A319neo hasn't been popular. It's so good that if Airbus decide to stretch C series again, a lot of future A320neo customers might look to buy A220-500 instead. The advantage of a clean sheet airplane over a re engine.
Probably not. Both the 220 and the MAX are more efficient. And in this day and age, efficiency is the name of the game. We've already retired the 747, and the 380 is on its way out, too. I suspect it won't be long before airlines retire all widebodies, with the exception of super long haul flights. The money and the efficiency is in narrowbodies. The 319NEO, however, isn't efficient enough.
The 319 is less efficient and over $10 million more expensive.
The A220 has a larger seat pitch and is more comfortable.
@@charlesharper2357 I like being proven correct!
Don't believe at all in retirement of wide body, do you imagine how many parking spot you'll need for the same amount of people traveling
@@plamantin2937 I didn't say widebodies will be retired completely. But except for super long hauls, I think most of them will be. Hub and spoke has gone the way of the dodo. The vast majority of flights can now be flown point to point, which means regional are going to get a second life. Narrowbodies can handle point to point just fine, even on a lot of long haul flights, like, say, JFK-LHR. They're already equipping some narrowbodies with lieflats for just such trips. But I believe the pandemic has killed business class as surely as it killed the 747, the 380, and most of the widebodies. As much as I'd like to see the numbers in the sky go back to pre pandemic levels, I don't think it will happen. I'm not being negative; I'm being pragmatic. Thanks to apps like Zoom and WhatsApp, businesses aren't gonna want to cough up for business trips anymore unless they absolutely have to. I just hope that leisure travel picks up. My leisure travel list is very long, because I've been grounded due to illness for too damn long! I want to get out and travel, and for me, my mode of transportation is plane! I love to fly. Plus, Delta's been nagging me with great deals I haven been able to take advantage of, darn it all!
@@ecclestonsangel I don't think the super efficient widebodies like the Boeing 787 Dream)Liner, Airbus A350 XWB are going anywhere anytime soon, the B787 was designed as a point to point aircraft. When Boeing designed the Dreamliner, they believed that point to point would be the future and it turns out they were spot on.
Experts are saying it'll take 4-5 years for the number of people flying to get back to pre pandemic levels, which seems realistic to me.
I think narrowbodies are an awful idea for long haul, compared to a widebody, their cabins are really cramped, for a short to medium haul flight their cabin space is perfectly fine and comfortable, but can you imagine doing a 10+ hour flight on a B737 or A320? Especially for tall people like myself.
On long haul flights they recommend people get up and walk around occasionally throughout the flight to stop DVT, but you couldn't do that on a narrowbody because there simply isn't enough cabin space.
I have a feeling that if narrowbodies started doing long haul, the cost of a flight would rise because the cabin would fit less passengers in long haul configuration to allow the standard long haul seat pitch of 31-34".
You don’t tell us why ?
The A319 is not cheap enough to operate compared to the A320 and is more expensive than the A220, so it ends up fitting a very narrow market. Granted, it costed little for Airbus to develop, so the program is still likely to be a success.
Shame that spirit changed over to the A320 NEO
Air India A319 16 years and running ❤❤❤❤❤💪💪💪💪💪
Air India is never a good reference for an aircraft
Donot judge book by its cover. Cabin appearance is not that much good . But rest 💪💪💪💪
Because the price is out of reach of the average person.
Well, first of all, A220 and A320 cannot switch pilot easily, if the airlines want to use A220 to substitute A319; and the aircraft life is count on how many "circles" (takeoff and landing), not by years. A319 usually takeoff and landing many times during a day, 15-16 years is actually pretty old, and the airlines need to find the replacement very soon, and don't forget it is a long waitlist!!
Sales should pick up in about 10 years or so....timing is everything.
Unlikely with how good A220 is
@@filledwithvariousknowledge1065 No hes right, when airlines need to replace their a319 ceos theyll probably order this if they want a plane of this size due to retraining pilots. Same story for the a330-800 neo. Airbus has made sure that any airlines who want to replace theyre a319 ceos earlier than expected will have the option of the new aircraft, and not look elsewhere or have to wait.
@@MarcusNesbitt4 No probably not the trend is to upsize
Go figure what the airline wants. The A321 ceo was'nt selling well compared to the A319 ceo for dacades. Now it is reversed. At least they are consistant in their offerings and it is all good for them. Maybe in ten years you would see huge A319 neo orders piling up for obscure reasons.
The A320 is the best imo
The A320 will be next.
I like to pronounce it as " A- three - one - nine"
Misleading video.
Makes it look like it is a problem that it doesn't sell. Actually, if the customers buy other Airbus products, who cares if the A319neo doesn't sell that much. Also, the fact that the old model doesn't need to be replaced can only be a praise, not a problem.
Overall, you should try to be more objective when presenting information, rather than trying to shine a negative light on whatever you're talking about.
Airbus should only focus with A320 neo and A321 neo LR/XLR. Drop A319, and focus on A220 on that class.
They Will Not
Simple answer........ nobody wants the runt of the litter.🤣
On a more serious note, it is about the young age of the A319 and the fact that many airlines have already got the A320 neo's on order.
What about the A318 ?
No A318NEO
The whole A318 thing doesn't make sense anymore with the A220 around, that's why it's being discontinued
It sold even less as the "A318ceo". Airbus didn't bother to invest more on it and it has been gone for a long time.
by the name, customers will compare it to 321,320 there ( higher numbers) 319 are know as old aircrafts, it dosent feet as much people, there better of buying 321 neos bc is the new fashion.
It's the first time I hear of the existence of an A319neo. So yeah, it really isn't popular :p
Ironically, it would take the pandemic for the A319neo sales to pick up. Airlines with A320neo orders may switch to the 319 due to unneeded extra seating capacity. But still a long shot as the A220 is a newer and an even more efficient alternative, that will continue to cannibalize the 319s sales hopes. By the time the pandemic subsides and travel demand recovers, the A319 and B737 Max 7 sales will likely stagnate, with continued preference to the larger variants.
No that won’t happen
No it will not cause there is the A220-300
A220 is why. A220 dents A320 and 737 max. A stretched A 220 will end A320 and 737max. Forcing a new clean sheet single aisle Boeing alone BombardierA220 lines, watch and see.
A319/A320 is the best narrow body aircraft the world has ever seen. B737 is just too outdated
Eh personally I'd say the A220 is primed to take that title. It's a true next-generation airliner and offers performance and efficiency that not even the neos or MAXs can reach.
A220 > A319
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@@Lee247Jamaica good decision
An Airbus not being popular must be crushing the fanboys that run this channel...
Now that the Max is back, the rest of the ugly A320 series won't be popular at all either.
Some A320 Operators
JetBlue For Example Will Not Buy Boeings
Also I Hate You For Calling A320neos
“Ugly”