Liveset walkthrough (Dub Techno with hardware synths, Ableton & external effects)
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- čas přidán 25. 07. 2024
- In this video I explain a few tips and tricks how I structure my livesets and what I do to stay in control of everything. The full set that I am talking about here is my Dub Techno set from March 2023: • Home Concert #48 (Dub ...
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00:00 Intro
01:17 Limit the number of tracks
03:49 Automate effects
10:16 Program changes
12:55 Use colors
15:20 Midi controllers
18:20 Practice
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Some really useful tips and ideas for keeping everything in control. Thanks, Martin! It's really great that you share this stuff.
Thank you very much! You inspired me to create a hardware effect send / return channel.
absolutely..................so much info packed into 23:00
After spending countless hours, watching tutorials, this is the most well explained breakdown of an Ableton live/hardware set, I’ve come across. Thank you Sir! This was incredibly informative! Absolutely subscribed! Can’t wait to see what you dish out next.
"these cheap synthesizers" 😂 Fascinating stuff as ever.
Literally scrolled down to comments to write something about that remark hahaha
I'm impressed by the level of control you achieve. From outside, it could appear like you randomly play, but when hearing and seeing this, one cannot doubt anymore that you are doing what you do entirely on purpose. At the end of the day, the only "thing" that you do not control entirely, is probably ...your cat !
Thanks Martin, really nice of you sharing your process.
BRILLIANT Martin!!!!!!!!!
Thank you so much, you’ve helled State Azure, imagine us😉
Fantastic! Thank you for this. Very well explained
Thanks for sharing. This is invaluable.
Thanks for this, Martin. Big fan.
Thank you! I really like when you talk about your live set after the performance. Great tips!
Thanks for sharing all these very valuable tips!
Very much appreciated. I create one liveset every week and I know that practice is the key (although I hardly do any practice runs).
Yes 🙌 Martin you are very relaxed 😌 lol 😂 love ya peace ☮️
Pure gold here! Thx for doing this ❤!
Hier habe ich in 23 min mehr gelernt als in vielen Ableton Tutorials zuvor. Vielen lieben Dank Martin!
Alway enjoy your Videos where you talk about your Setup. Its a good inspiration for my own live set. Havent watched this one yet, but it sure is bookmarked for later!
12:10 very goooood tip!!!!👍
Brilliant tips, thank you so much
I've only just started my musical journey and never performed live, but this information is going into my learning folder on CZcams. Many thanks for helping total newbies like me Martin, really appreciate your time and the thought and experience that goes into this. Love your music too, keep up the wonderful work ! 😀
💯👍@ Martin and Neptun!
Thank you so much for these tutorials they are so helpfull
Thank you Martin! I worked for such a long time with Cubase, that some possibilities come only slowly to my mind. Working with one synth, switching programs and effects on a single channel may need some work, but is definitely worth it. I never came to that "idea" before your video. One thing to add on this. Ableton can't play more than one part vertically in Session View, but creating a Instrument/Drum-Rack with different routings and sends can do that job, by simply playing Midi-Notes simulaneously to trigger/play Instruments/samples in/on dedicated zones/keys.
The best piece of advice for Ableton users 😀. Thank you Martin.
Thanks Martin 🙏
thank you for the good tips.
Thank you for your inspiration 🙏
Nice gear nice music nice guy 😁👍👍
Great Martin, Thanks!
Martinnnnn cheers from Berlin, I like your video°°
Sympathique cette présentation de tes instruments. Ils méritaient bien cet hommage qui te permet de faire cette si belle musique. Patrice. (Lorient-France)
“Since I’m using these cheap synthesizers without a proper display” :b-shot of OB-6. This is pure comedy gold. 😂
Thank you!
Thx Martin ♡
Thank you for this informative video! Very interesting to have a glimpse inside the internal workings of your music =)
Excellent thank you for sharing Martin
Great tips and cool to see how you work, thanks!
Keep them coming man, useful video!
Thank you!
Dear Martin, thank you for explaining your setup in such detail, really appreciste your time an effort going into the "walktrough" video series.
Great tips - thanks!
I am love your music!
I find this sort of video absolute gold dust. Maybe not the big things but some of the little things that make everything come together. Thanks for sharing Martin.
My god, Martin, how wonderful you made this video! You not only make fantastic music, you also share the love for it and technology to make it with everyone interested, keeping "our" kind of music alive, urging more and more people to also create this wonderful style of music. Thank you so deeply, as a fan and as a colleague musician. NODO171
Wow this is pure gold. Thank you so much for doing this! Next, tell us how you can afford all this gear 😉
Great tut again
Thank you so much !
Ein Meister seiner Zunft
Hi Martin and thank you for this very special learning video. It will be nice if in the future you make a video about elektron overbridge and how you have use the digitakt in live situation with ableton.
Thanks man, you are really helping us a lot here. Cheers from Madrid.
Thank you!
Great video - thanks 💪🏻👍🏻
Yes. Yes. Yes. Great advice that should be repeated from time to time. I liked it.
Would love to see how you manage latency issues when routing hardware (OB-6 etc) back into Ableton with lots of effects (and even external effects)
My idea is to use an audio interface and connect everything to it directly. The latency in Ableton is 128 samples and I have no trouble with it.
Always love listening to your live sets.... But I always pay close attention to your live performance, setup and sound design videos. More please 👏👏👏
adding this to my essential watch playlist...
thank you Martin 👍
Very much thanks for this tutorial. Very helpful 👍
My pleasure!
There are some very valuable tips in this one! Thanks Martin!
Always learn something from your walkthroughs so do keep them coming. Thank you for sharing your working process and thoughts.
Really interesting to see how one can work with effects, and automate the on/off switching of effect chains! Hadn't thought of this possibility. But one can really imagine how Ableton can improve on this though in future releases. Let's see where we are in ten years :) Thanks for an amazing walkthrough! I will especially take into consideration the hint on keeping things simple.
I am afraid that in 10 years Ableton will have much more features that nobody asked for. I am only upgrading for the performance and stability reasons and compatibility to the current CPU and OS generations.
@@MartinStuertzer I'm just starting out in Ableton, but yeah the features are quite overwhelming :) Takes a focused mind to just stick to the tools that you need.
Martin, ganz liebe Grüße aus dem Norden. Ich mache schon mein ganzes Leben lang Musik mit Synthesizern, aber meist nur für mich selbst. Und bislang nur auf die klassische Art und Weise mit dem Aufnehmen der einzelnen Spuren einer nach der anderen in Reaper. Doch nun möchte ich mich auch in Richtung liveset bewegen, und bin zur Zeit dabei, auf Ableton umzusteigen. Dabei war Dein Video sehr sehr hilfreich, ich habe nun eine Richtlinie wie das Vorgehen dabei ist. Vielen Dank dafür, daß Du Dein Wissen so freizügig teilst, und Dir die Mühe gemacht hast, dieses fantastische Video aufzunehmen.
Solltest Du einmal in die Nähe von Cuxhaven kommen, schau doch mal auf einen Kaffee vorbei. :)
Danke Joachim für die netten Worte und viel Freude beim Musizieren!
Nice lesson. Thank you. Another, which is the most important thing: FOCUS 👍
Thanks so much for showing your liveset. I've been wanting to do something for a while but it always overwhelms me. You've given some great insight!
Thank you! Just start with a few instruments, there is no need to have such an excessive setup like I do. :)
Danke, dass du deine Gedanken und Erfahrungen mit uns teilst, Martin 🙏🏻
Ich danke dir!
Nice song fam! Respect
Can you make a video on how to set the latency compensation for each external device from scratch?
That was excellent - thanks Martin
Amazing tips and workflow, and very nice music. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you so much for this awesome video!
This is so timely for me. Thank you.
Super helpful Martin. Thank you!
Thank you so much for this clear and nice sharing.
Thanks man for the sharing info, and playing dub techno
Love this funny joke @12:34 : "...'cause i'm only using these cheap synthesizers." while I'm sitting next to my Volcas!! 😂😄
With ❤from Austria
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I was wondering if this comment could be misinterpreted. I believe that good music only comes from good ideas and not from expensive gear. But I am glad that you got the joke and please enjoy the Volcas! I used to have the FM Volca in my setup.
thank you,love your albums soo much 🥰 can you please share some of your favorite artists?
Thank you for taking the time to share these insights on how you bring your music to life - a fascinating engagement!
Thank you, I am glad that you find it interesting to watch!
Ich schaue Dir schon länger zu...da ich nun auch endlich nen Account und Kanal habe kann ich Dich auch endlich abonieren :-) Großartig wie immer!
Juchu!
Hi Martin, this is so helpful, eye-opening and inspiring. Thank you. I always listen to your music on Spotify when I am on long drives.
I have many synths but no car that is able to play Spotify. Enjoy the ride and the music!
Wow, deine Follower sind echt aktiv ;-) Nach 3h schon fast 500 Aufrufe👍
Sehr interessant und wie immer inspirierend. Sehr hilfreich für eigene "Versuche". Vielen Dank für die vielen Tipps, Martin!
Very interesting vid, Martin !
Kiss to Neptun !
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Thank you Martin for the tips, hints and advice.
This is something for me to keep in mind when I prepare to work on my future projects.
Some say, "practise makes perfect." In my case it does until the knowledge you obtain from practising becomes a routine task. Which is good, (for me at least).
Some of your tips doesn't apply to me for now - but I know I will be using it sooner or later and I'm glad I know where to find it :)
Thanks a lot! Of course everyone needs to develop their own concept of working.
Nice, like more of it!
Gruß aus HH
Wow, this is excellent, I;m going to try to replicate what you're doing in Bitwig (if possible). Fantastic video!
nice to see how this all works out. sadly I do not use ableton ...but I do not play live either :)
Thanks Martin you gave me strength.Big fan 🙏.
Can I kindly request from you a short tutorial about design a sub bass and playing it .
Here it is: Step 1: Open Ableton Operator. End of tutorial. Seriously: a sine wave is a very good starting point. Most of my sub basses are just sine waves. The tricky part is balancing and leveling against the drums or other bass sounds. I will take a note to talk about this in another video!
@@MartinStuertzer Thanks for the reply I appreciated 🙏🙏👍👍
Track 3 war der Hammer in dem Set ... gibts das als Album/EP irgendwann? Sehr geile Tips und Einblicke in dein Setup, danke dafür
Hallo Martin,
wie immer ein sehr lehrreiches Video für mich - eine Goldgrube.
Ich versuche anschließend, deine Tipps in Logic pro nachzuvollziehen. Mit einiger Suche im 1600 Seiten langen Handbuch, finde ich tatsächlich dort sehr ähnliche Möglichkeiten (manchmal auch bessere ;) ) und kann sie dort umsetzen - es lohnt sich. Eine so große DAW zu verstehen, kostet sehr viel zeitlichen Aufwand, aber man bekommt viel zurück.
Deine Tipps sind immer treffend, da sie zielführend sind. Schon während deiner Konzerte schaue ich wissbegierig auf deine Manipulationen an Ableton Push und deinen Kamerafokus auf die Intrumente. Mittlerweile verstehe ich deine Vorgehensweise ein wenig mehr. Obwohl ich keine Livekonzerte gebe, „dudele” ich zu Hause in meinem Studio zunehmend zufriedener und gestalte auch Aufnahmen. Vielen Dank 🤩
Hallo Herwig, vielen Dank für die freundlichen Worte!
Hi Martin, nice tutorial (like usual) always very helpful to me. i wondered if you know the max for live "mm.Chain Per Scene - Switch chains by launching scenes" device which is very helpful to automate effect- or even instrument chains by launching scenes or clips... At least for me it does a perfect job. Thanks and enjoy yourself...
Hi! There is actually a Max device that does that but it was sort of buggy and I can't have that in my live.
Your music is next level sir. Are your CZcams sets available to listen to on soundcloud or the equivalent? Great vid btw
I have a similar studio, similar workflow and 2 cats yet I don't sound nearly as good as you... Can I ask what tea you usually drink? :)
Great video and loving your work. Only recently subscribed and loving your previous videos too.
What camera/s are you using please for this video?
„Cheap synthesizers without a proper display“ - You're pulling on my leg, aren't you?
Hi, thank you for sharing. How do you keep the eventide H9 external effect in sync. Mine isn’t syncing with the music?
I dont use a DAW but thank you for some valuable tips that translate to a stricktly hardware set up (A4 MK2 + a few hardware synths).
I was using setups without the computer as well and try to have a similar approach there as well.The A4 is a fantastic synth, I should use it more.
@@MartinStuertzer Hi Martin, thanks for helping me get better at my craft. I have a question if you have the time: When determining your patches for a new piece, do you have a system or some things you think about when deciding what sounds/patches that work well with each other in the mix? Whenever I create a new patch, I spend too much valuable time trying to scroll through my patches to find the perfect fit so they work together in the mix. Help in this area would be very useful for me in my workflow. Thanks! 🙂
Super useful Martin! How do you sync the whole thing? It can be a challenge to sync overbridge + soft synths + hardware synths + external sequencer if you use one, not only for monitoring but also for recording in Ableton. Thanks!
Thank you! From my experience the sync and monitoring situation is much easier when I have everything connected to Ableton. The Digitakt runs through Overbridge but everything else is hooked up with good old midi through my Motu interface. Monitoring is done through Ableton and I can use a dedicated channel for the headphone on my RME interface if I want. The Apollo in the video is just a preamp in my setup.
16:02 I would love to know how you made that bass patch?
Lots of very good advice here, and a killer set last week-end... Bravo!
If I may indulge in a rant myself: one thing which has tainted the use of computers in live sets (usually with Ableton) is the excessive pursuit of "making the task easier", using the convenience of the deep automation control offered by the DAW to the extreme so that some shows were not much more than "push play then fake it"...
Martin: of course I don't put you in that category at all, I admire very much your immense skills and your wonderful music. But a question has been on my mind since I discovered you, around Home Concert #15 or so: have you ever done dawless live sets? If I take your latest Home Concert as an example, the Pro 2 and the OB-6 have good sequencers, AFAIK, and the digitakt has 8 internal tracks and 8 tracks for external hardware. With the limited number of sound-making devices you justly recommend, it seems you had enough hardware to record notes, CCs, and PCs.
Do you think you could have gotten near the result of Home Concert #48 with hardware only (including even the Push 2 or similar to trigger patterns, the EC4 (or two of them), adding a mixer (I know, five sends...), a MIDI router and maybe some extra HW FX boxes/pedals)? Supposing perfect knowledge of the sequencers, and habit and experience, would it take that much longer to create such a set and make is so that one could stay sane (maybe not quite relaxed :) while performing it?
Hello! Yes, I did a lot of dawless sets. If you look back on my channel to 2014 - 2019 you are going to find a few examples of longer sets without Ableton. However, I always find it exhausting to take care of the synchronization of the different sequencers, something is always off. I learned that in my setup having the computer as the hub for audio and midi works best. To be honest, my Elektron machines crashed more often on stage than my computer. That is why I prefer this hybrid setup although I also find it interesting to perform and prepare a set without Ableton.
@@MartinStuertzer Thanks!
Thanks for the Vid! How are you running midi to the hardware synths? I have a polybrute and a sub37 - if I used the native VSTs ableton would crash. How do you avoid this? What is the VST you're using for the hardware fx - i've never seen that ableton device?
I answered the 2nd question - looks like an external audio fx plugin?
Thanks for the amazing tips as always, Martin! One question: what do you have in Digitakt group? Do you use Digitakt in Overbridge mode or midi sync and audio out? How are you solving Digi latency? Cheers!
I am usually using one single out for the Kickdrum and the rest in a group. Overbridge works fine (finally), as along as I don't plug in more than two Elektrons at the same time. Latency seems to be no problem for me, the compensation works like expected.
@@MartinStuertzer thanks!
Latency wise it is fine here as well, but vst itself adds considerable latency (around 40ms?) unless I put plugin buffer to 64ms, which I am kind of scary to do haha
Hallo Martin, für mich als Ableton Einsteiger ein sehr interessantes Video. Danke fürs Teilen deines Workflows !
Deinen Ansatz "weniger ist mehr" finde ich prima !
Funktioniert das mit dem Programm Change auch für virtuelle Instrumente oder gibt es da gar eine andere Lösung ?
Gruß
Andreas
Martin hat hier mal ein Video gebracht, wo er auch viel zur Arbeit mit Ableton erzählt. Sehr hilfreich. Ist ca 3J alt (+/-). Ich weiß den Titel leider nicht mehr, vllt sieht Martin das hier und kann helfen ;-)
Ich noch mal. Da hab ich mich ja mächtig verschätzt, das Video was ich meinte ist aus Okt. 2021;-) hier der link: czcams.com/video/lvVNheE0iy4/video.html
Aber auch die anderen Walkthrough-Videos sind, was Ableton angeht, lehrreich
@@torstenb2205 Danke Dir Torsten, schau ich mir an :)
😺hello Martin, about your ambient /sequenced music,
if you should choose only one reverb pedal to substitute your usual valhalla vst, wich one would you pick ? Big sky ( I think I've seen one in your studio) Eventide space ? NIghtsky...
Thank you.
I don't have one of the Strymon reverbs. The Big Sky was from a friend of mine. I would need to test them thoroughly to give you an advise here! Probably the Big Sky or the Nightsky I guess.
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