Is A Rabaconda A Waste Of Money?
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- čas přidán 29. 05. 2022
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Dood this guy is awesome! Anyone that is working in his shop changing tires and packing heat is awesome!
Wow! This place looks amazing. I look forward to your videos every Saturday morning. It's like my Saturday morning cartoons as an adult. Thank you for taking us on your adventures.
Amazing analysis and tutorial!!! We couldn't do it better. Plus nothing can beat the the added humour, buddies dropping in, Av's, pets, etc lol. Better than Ozzy's reality show 😂😂 A small detail on price: Moose copy is retailing for 310$, Rabaconda is 449$, so the difference is 139$. You're video is totally awesome!! Thanks!
Thank you so much. Good to know on the price.
I was going to say that was a better demo than the @Rabaconda video! Does it come with the tire irons?
Your tire irons are the titties!
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@rabaconda tire irons covered at all under warranty for bending?
Love my Rabaconda. I broke a part and contacted them, there reply was what is your address. A week later I had the new part no questions asked. Wonderful company.
That’s awesome
Great vid Morgan. I've got Mousseballs and Neutron and this technique works perfectly! After riding, my son decided his front was too soft...just added a ball to his front as you showed elsewhere. Was tight, but got it in. Thanks for sharing the how tos!
Awesome
Got 3 bikes all mousses- I love my Raba. I paid less for it several years ago. It's holding up well, using it today! Thanks Morgan.
Good to know
It's great to come across fellow Colorado riders on CZcams! I live in Leadville and have family out in GJ, so I've got to enjoy the riding out in your neck of the woods. I'm thinking about buying that tire changing system, sure looks like it saves time, and saves your energy! Subscribed!
Thanks! You’ll love it
Got one of these Rabaconda's years ago...during the race season I use it every week. Best investment if you use both mousses and tubes. Quality product.
Thanks for the solid review, Morgan!
I've used a friend's Rabaconda and then wanted one, but they're pretty proud of their equipment, and the pricing shows.
I researched the Moose version and found very few differences.
The things noticeable were the built-in tire iron holder and the little tabs to help push the bead lock in on the Raba.
Otherwise, virtually identical.
Same length and leverage on the bead breaker, same adjustable rim supports.
As you mentioned, the Raba has rubber feet, but I do like that the Moose have a wide plate under each of the three legs, so you can stand on them and get better foothold when you're working up against the tire.
If you have the money, you can get either.
If you have a budget, and still want a quality tool, I have not been disappointed with the Moose version for $200-ish less.
They will both eventually pay for themselves vs. shop prices - Moose will just do it sooner.
I agree
I've used several different tire changers and I think solid technique makes the biggest difference. They all get the job done. I have and like the zip ty DGTT the best, using a combination of tire irons Raba and zip ty. The Raba packs up nice for travel. But I don't need that as mine stays at home.
If you pull up on the plastic lever locking handle and turn it, that will usually tighten up the lever lock on the raba. I really like my rabaconda, but went from using a garbage can or the floor for tire changes so it feels like the cats meow.
I've got one it does make life easier and love that it packs away into the bag when not using it as not a lot of room in my garage doubt that worries you as you can leave yours up in your workshop. good review tho you are always honest
Thanks. I try
This is going back a couple years but we tested the moose against the rabaconda at a KTM shop I worked at and we liked the moose better. I took one home snd still use it with no problems. Credit definitely goes to Rabaconda for coming up with the design though.
2:47 Shoresy is in the workshop! 😂
The Rabaconda is a quality product as your video shows. Bibs are a PITA to change, so ya, the quality system that makes a PITA job much easier is worth an extra $140 to me. Bonus, I think my 93 year old mother could do a tube tire with the Rabaconda system 😄
Dude your shop looks like such a fun place to work!
I like it!!
I love mine. BTW when your pushing tire completely off, the mechanism arms are lifted up into that upper position, that puts the foot out further away from rim and makes the tire come off a bit easier.
Right on
Lol I use Tusk tire irons with a 5gal bucket to set my tires on. Works for me.
Combine that and the Baja no pinch tool and you will cut your time for mounting tires by half.
Love my Baja no-pinch
watchout for those tire irons breaking, I've had 2 sets of those exact same tire irons and one by one all 4 of them broke off at the notched rim catch on the mounting end of the irons with the first time happening while i was really leaning into it which caused me to almost break my hand, i use the long harbor freight irons now........
Bought a Rabaconda a few years ago they are a bit pricey ,its well made and it works ( i dont like the rabaconda tyre levers ,probably just me) overall definite thumbs up just bought some tyre levers ( motion pro lol which i prefer so all good ,if you can afford one go for it , good instructional video.
Thanks
Great video!
Thanks
Thank you for the review, I want to buy it for years and i didn’t lol
I will buy it after you review
I think it’s worth it b
I looked long and hard at these and others a few years ago - the Rabaconda is quality kit compared to the copies like the Moose. Worth the extra? If you have the money then maybe but the Moose will do the job.
In the end I ended up buying a TMT5 from Kauritmoto in Estonia. That was big money but an absolute joy to use, beautifully built and will last a lifetime I'm sure. It definitely makes changing easier than even the Rabaconda - it's all done standing and you use your more powerful leg muscles for demounting. Better for tubes than the Rabaconda-type too - less chance of a pinch flat. As I said the Kauritmoto is expensive even compared to a Rabaconda so don't buy it if you only change a few tyres a year but I've never regretted the investment.
I have seen those. They are awesome
Morgan I did not buy the Rabaconda stand, when I have inserted mousse before I am old school on the floor with at least 4 sets of vise grips. One thing for sure IMO there are no better tire irons for mousse changing than the Rabaconda tire irons they are the bomb!
I agree.
Nice job.
Real video👍🏻
Hopefully that rim lock is better then the Talon billet rim lock. Looks similar. Using two Talon rim locks is the only time I have had a tire spin. When it does slip it’ll shred the inside of the tire.
I’ve been running it for a while and it’s been good. I think it’s wider than the talon one
I do them on a tire machine. I was tought the rabaconda way. But I said no, I have a tire machine. Now we charge less for doing a nitro mousse. Don't get me started on the tubliss.
I think I'll stick with a milk crate and two good spoons. The milk crate has added feature of being able to flip it over and sit on after wrestling the tire on. 😂
🤣😂
I skipped the whole tubliss era, but the inserts look reasonable and I been watnting to try one. looks like you probably could NOT install one of these without a rabaconda or moose tool though I use the baha no pinch tire tool just for normal tire changes and the old fashioned tube.
Switched to bibs have always just used a 5gal bucket and a couple nice spoons but with the mousse it turned into a 3 person job…. Hence why I’m here looking at the rabaconda 😂
Great vid, I got a question a little off topic, what type of appendix carry holster is that? looks like maybe a We The People, I've got a similar IWB apex and it hurts and digs in when leaning forward but yours doesn't seem to impede your movement whatsoever, I'm guessing cuz it rides higher than mine, can you list the make and model, thx
It’s a we the people I love it
My favorite thing about the Raba is the tire irons
Yep
like the irons but the stand seems like a waste. be nice if the bead breaker arm could be used on the install.
I have one i love it
While it definitely helps get the old tire off faster via the arm, I don't see what all it does for you beyond just being a stable stand for putting it back on. Having 5 good irons helps as well, but for the rim lock, I prefer to use a slide clamp to push it in while getting the bead under it. Also easier to do the rim lock earlier than at the very end.
Idk he made it look pretty damn easy every bit of it.. barely a struggle at all.. Even as a big strong man I've cried while cussing from trying to do a tire...
nice one - cheers
Thanks. Good to hear from you!
So no lube on the rim? It just gets in there later? I’ve been making a big mess then also using two tubes per rear tire. And I use two rim locks on the rear, it’s been a real pain in the ass even with the Rabaconda. I’ve been using a grease gun on the air chuck to regrease the tire halfway through to help the mousse last longer. Thanks for the vid, gonna try WD40 and your grease method next tire 👍
Hey Morgan, the bike definitely isn't lean, plug and piston top show on the rich side, I removed the Billetron vent lines from the air box and put them down in the skid plate where they used to be, solved the problem, the engine was pulsating when coasting on idle in gear and doing to the same when settling down at a stop, problem solved, must be a Billetron thing ?
That is odd for sure. Glad you solved it
The best videos!
Thank you
I used to use WD-40 on tires/tubes. Until I learned about tire lube. It's a lot cheaper and better for the tire,tubes, bibs. Plus use the moose lube on the bin.
I only use WD to mount. The lube for the mousse is not for mounting. It is for keeping heat down. The WD is good for mounting because it dries up and goes away and the tire doesn't slip as much on the rim.
Hey Morgan what would make a 2 stoke engine chug when dropping down to idle, asking for a friend
If you mean, kinda hang up high before dropping down, that is usually a lean condition. Either lean pilot circuit or an air leak
I have never used tyre irons to put a tyre on before only to take it off.
Cool
Been using the moose racing for a couple years now. Works fine, thinking about grinding in some teeth on the bead breaker though after seeing the chompers on the raba. Ever figure out what those metal loops are for?
The metal loops are for pressing the rim lock into the tire when you put the last section of tire on.
@@ronaldchiles5550 I thought that but didn’t see how they would work. The official rabaconda video didn’t use them either.
@@highlandcycles you have to turn the iron backwards. I usually dont use them they are in the wrong location.
Hi guys, At Rabaconda we rarely use the loops actually ourselves. We just push in the rim lock with a tire iron against the brake disc. So much faster and easier. Done that for 10 years now. You can use the loop as well, but if the mousse is very stiff the center spindle might bend while simply pushing the whole wheel away, not rim lock into the mousse. In this case you can put your knee against and pull the tire iron towards your knee. More stable
@@Rabaconda thanks
The zip-ty mousse lube is the best.
You should change your install method and instead of using WD40 spray, use baby powder as a dry lubricant and use the white hand cleaner cream with lanolin on the tire's bead. WD will react to rubber tubes over time.
Thanks for the tips!
I am still curious about the mousse system - guys out here in AZ swear by it. Man- I have been using tubliss for the last year- never had a flat yet... It is not like I mess with the air pressure for traction but I have to air my high pressure side a few pounds every ride. From my experience Tubliss is finicky. I am not a hard enduro guy- just love riding the desert.
Rick, you need to try mousses. Just do it once. The very worst that happens is that you get 2 or 3 sets of tires out of them with zero possibility for flats and you are out about $300 and you go back to tubliss. I LOVE not carrying any kind of tire tool and not having to check any pressures.
@@highlandcycles I think I am gunna have too now! LOL
Do you rebuild top ends, shocks, forks before washing the dirt off them?
No
I was looking at these to replace my No Mar that was stollen out of the garage. This appears to put all of the stress on the spokes and/or nipples, rather than the rim. As a wheel builder, that makes me cringe. Is this adjustable to align to the rim instead of the spokes?
Yes. You can move the supports
I'm going to try just squirting the lube in next time (I assume the tire rotating ends up spreading it). I've always coated the tire and mousse and it's a royal mess :)
Yep. It really does spread out everywhere. Super easy
@@highlandcycles wow, so you really just squirt all the lube in that one place inside the tire and that is good enough?
@@tandpnetwork7102 yep. I didn’t believe it either but it works
What did you use instead of a Innertubes??? and can one used it on a Duel sport Bike?
Mousse tube and its not a great idea on dual sport bikes
Hey Morgan problem didn't get solved, bike has a black plug and a black piston top, would a rich condition cause a stutter at idle ?, I checked with Lectron and they say no problem with vent lines on the Billetron in the air box so putting them back
Rich usually just makes them die. Could still be lean on the bottom and show a rich plug and piston. Plug shows the over all condition, not specific areas. I’d check for a crank seal leak
@@highlandcycles Ok thanks Morgan really appreciate the expert advice ! have a great evening
Gun tucked into his shorts while working on a dirtbike in a workshop... "America" 😀
Yup
@@highlandcycles Very exotic to someone like me who lives in Sweden 🙂
@@highlandcycles thanks for taking the time to make a good tutorial though!
@@mafric750 you bet. Yeah. The US is a different animal. I love it here though.
@@highlandcycles Looking forward to going back one day :-) Cheers!
I have a Moose version and it comes up short on the dismount. The claw pops over the tire and gets stuck on the tire. How I wish I bought a Rabaconda. Don't be cheap like me.
I want mousse for my low profile car tires...
Ouch! $550? I could pay someone to change a lot of tires for that. Guess I'll stick with my 5 gallon bucket. May buy a set of those irons though...
They are really nice
I would have started with a CLEAN BIKE AND WHEELS. While working on your bike whatever the service is why increase the odds of introducing dirt in the process. Adding some dirt into the tire will speed up the wearing out of the mousse... Not very professional IMO.
why can't the off road version work with street tires and vice versa?
I think it has to do with the amount of force it takes to break beads on street tires. I have used the offroad one on street wheels just fine but I broke the center spindle eventually.
Raba is too much $ for me. I have the Tusk changer, not as sophisticated but $350 less, It's mounted to my work table so it's at elbow-height. Aren't Tusk and Raba irons supplied by the same mfr?
I don’t know about that. They definitely could be
Easier and faster = time and money savings. I say yes.
Gonna be the odd ball here but not a fan of the rabaconda or its copies. Give me a good old tire change stand. I work harder at a tire with the rabaconda and my back hurts when I'm done. I'd take a bucket bolted yo a sturdy surface over that contraption.
Right on. It’s all about technique in the end and if you have one that works, that’s the best
@@highlandcycles I do also have lower back injuries so standing and using my upper body strength just works better for me.
Those tire irons really damage rims without plastic protectors, I'm sure the customer loves that.
I have the Moose one. Use it a bunch. It is perfect...No. But I would like to try a Raba to compare. Sure beats a bucket and screwdrivers!
There must be multiple models the review I just watched (yammienoob dude) the thing is much different it was canted 45 degrees not horizontal??
Yeah. That one is supposed to be their street tire changer
I love my rabaconda.
Why do you pack heat while wrenchin? Seems cumbersome and heavy.
I don’t always. But currently it’s more of a statement about the second amendment than anything. Also, it’s not really bad now with these small guns and nice holsters.
@@highlandcycles I like that reason! Thanks for the reply man. Love the content. And I like these latest “controversial” topics lately. Eff rekluse auto garbage.
Wow that is a lot of extra steps to change a dirt bike tire. I have 3 tire levers and a 5 gallon bucket, can change a rear tire/tube and have it mounted back on the bike in the time it takes to set up that Rabaconda. It's overkill.
Dang, I would have ran that old tire a bit longer!
Hahaha
I have the copy £110 not £375 good enough for me 👍
That’s how my moose one was but since we change hundreds a year I think this will be money well spent.
Hey how about a friendly bet. My home town Oilers VS the Av's in the NHL playoffs. If I win, you send me a t-shirt. If you win I will send you a t-shirt. Thoughts?
Great review.
Sounds good. I’m in
just did mine today still hate it after 20 years
i was talking about tire change not the rabaconda btw 😂
I’ve had one for a couple of years and only got round to using it this week.
Anyway removal of tyres with mousses is easier than having a shit.
I honestly don’t think you should be allowed to buy this tool until you’ve submitted video evidence to Rabaconda of you struggling on the floor swearing, sweating and bleeding; preferably in the heat of summer.
2 beadlock or 1 ?
Depends. Normal stuff one. Super soft mousse setup then 2
Bro is pack'n heat.. you know, in case a tire gives em problems..
No. For problem customers and CZcams fans 😂🤣
St Louis Blues = Blusers
You look like you are 35% crazy, you have some interesting toys.
Pretty damn spiffy!
I like it
Those rim are wrecked from tyre changed with no rim protectors
So! It’s a rock bike!
@highlandcycles thought you were a dealer mechanic. If its your bike go scratch it
@@martinfretwell I am a shop but this is my wheel. I’m way more careful with customer wheels. Unless they are like me and neat the crap out of them. 🤣
F that buy a weaver machine. Practice on how to use it. A 21 front dirt tire takes 10 min to change after u learn how to use it. And no workout. Im old too friend. I change 100"s of bike tires a year. Street and dirt.
I’ve seen people change a mousse on one of these from on the bike to on the bike in less than 3 minutes at six days
I will make a video next tire change and hit u up. I do like ur channel as I run orange as well. Love ur crash video. Been there rock gets you and slings you. lol..
The Rabaconda is worth every dollar...even for regular tire changes. The Moose replica is complete garbage. Spend the extra $150 and get the real deal.
Complete garbage? Could you be more specific? Were there any differences between the two tire changers that Morgan may have missed?
Apparently he has used his Moose Racing tire changer for years. Seems like he would have tossed it a lot sooner if it was that bad...?
I think I agree but I don’t think the moose is garbage. It has held up to hundreds of changes.
@@MotoTripping Sure. I've owned both. The quality (welds) and the actual fit of pieces is sub par to the Conda. The metal is thicker on the Rabaconda, and the actual arm to apply pressure seems as if it is at a different angle for better press as well. There is a height difference for the mount as well. Will the Moose get the job done....sure. is the Rabaconda better...IMO it is (after owning both).
@@MXJEFF94 thank you!
Is it realistic that a man carries a gun while changing a tire...?
Hahaha. Not really except that I like to have one on or near me all the time. Call me crazy but I’d rather have it and not need it.
Where the hell do you live where you have to be so worried you gotta pack a gun just to work in a bike shop. holy frick I never wanna go there.. I kept watching expecting armed thugs to come in and rob the place.
Best bead breaker are your feet.
A real man changes tires with three tire irons on the floor
Hahhaha. I have. But a REAL man gets a job and saves money so he can make his life easier. A modern sissy man lives in his moms basement and can’t afford a nice tire changer. 🤣
@@highlandcycles lol that’s funny stuff
2:40 I would've sworn lol and colorado Mammoth 🦣 NLL🥍 is doing real good, they're in the playoffs for lacrosse