🔥 Phoenix Bass Boats vs. Basscat Bass Boats: The Ultimate Showdown! 🔥 (Brand Battle!)
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- 🔥 Phoenix Bass Boats vs. Basscat Bass Boats: The Ultimate Showdown! 🔥 (Brand Battle!)
Get ready for an epic clash of titans on the water as we pit two of the most iconic bass boat brands against each other - Phoenix Bass Boats and Basscat Bass Boats! 🚤💨
In this thrilling brand battle, we'll compare the speed, handling, features, and everything else you need to know to make an informed decision when choosing your next fishing companion. Whether you're a die-hard Phoenix fan or a loyal Basscat enthusiast, this video will help you decide which boat reigns supreme in the world of bass fishing.
🎣 Join us as we dive deep into the world of bass fishing and put these legendary boats to the test. Who will come out on top? Tune in to find out!
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Live wells in a cat are well well thought out. 60/split on recirc and pulling fresh water in. Shape and design of the triangles for less stress. Also the latches on the cat Does not transfer heat into the water like the older latches do. Has a flush valve in the back of the boat so the spray bar is always cleaned out if trash gets in the hose bar. And the Cat wells hold a crazy amount of water.
THIS.... came here to mention the design and specifically the latches. So much thought whereas the birds seem pretty much status quo.
I’d like to see individual live wells, sbd the wells moved back on the deck a little. So you’re not accessing from the seats
Let’s go!! Been waiting for this all day. Thanks for another great vid team marine.
Yes ikon and vexus. I'm going to be purchasing one of those 2 hopefully in the spring next year. Thanks for all your amazing content.
Love the honesty you bring forward in your videos thank you. Whatever you compare next I'm sure it will be good.
Awesome show this week guy's. Can't wait till next weeks Brand Battle!!
Great comparison! I've owned a Phoenix and loved it. Cats are sweet boats too. Both are great.
I too would love to see a bracket system. Your choice from worst to first of all boats. NOW and PAST boats(Legend, Stratos, Champion).
And YES on next week's match up between Vexus vs Ikon. Once again you made an excellent entertaining and informative video. Kudos, Bro!!!!
Both sweet boats. I run a cat but looked hard at the Phoenix. Great video as always. Bass cat livewell is awesome but man are they deep. Definitely do Ikon vs Vexus.
Both boats are great! Had both boats. Had an older bass cat and today i have a Phoenix Elite 921.The newer Phoenix have very little plastic, just like the bigger fishing deck and ride and lay out of boat
So awesome great content get you wound up for the day
This was a great video I’m in the market and have some new prospective on each one 👍
Andy jacked on Pepsi, love the brand battles keep them coming. How about a Brand Battle Royal. Take all the winners of the brand battles and put them all together into 1 Battle Royal.
Great idea!
Definitely looked at Phoenix when I was in the market. Ended up finding a used BassCat Puma FTD and I can say I am very satisfied. There is nothing that I would change on my boat except I wish my front deck was a little wider. BassCat now has the Puma STS which is a little bit wider. I think you would satisfied with either boat.
Love the video but Phoenix ride is smooth like butter. Also my dads 2018 Mercury 4-Stroke’s lower unit went out at around 700 hours. Keep in mind he changes the oil before every tournament, he fished about 15 tournaments a year from local to national.
Appreciate the channel and the work you all put into it. Is the ranger sign in the background on a tv or a old school sign?
Both fantastic boats. The layout would probably be my determining factor between these two. I like the biggest rod locker I can get because I fish Muskie and bass.
Love my phoenix live well. But I like how basscat fills there's to the lid, and creates a pressurized tank to prevent sloshing
Do they? Or are you thinking of the Vexus livewells? Either way, both great boats
Looking forward to the Vexus/Ikon battle. Have an Vexus AVX2080, and love it! Looking at glass down the road….
Yea ikon vs Vexus! Or caymus vs vexus. Great vids! Really helpful
Great info here. Definitely like to see ikon vs Vexus next
So much good info
Great video
Awesome review!! I would love to see IKON versus Vexsus!!
I've ridden in both a few times, my first boat will be a Basscat no doubt, Phx was 2nd though due to tournament support. Phoenix had so much plastic I was not a fan. Cat build quality and lifetime hull warranty puts it well above every other brand. Ride was far better on a Basscat but driver input makes more of a difference than hull.
I’m going to buy a new or almost new one next year and I’m torn on what to buy. Best friend has a phoenix we fish out of mostly.
Skeeter vs Caymas and Blazer vs Bullet
Even tho I have a Stratos.. fkn BLAZER BOATS for the win 🏆🏆💯💯😎
Deal! Ikon vs Vex for sure!
Andy, the only thing you did not include, was a base price of comparable models. I think it would be valuable information to say the Phoenix is priced 10,000 less or whatever and gives you more bang for the buck or vice versa with bass cat! The other thing I wish you would’ve touched on is the flooring in Bass cat. How does it hold up with the closed cell foam and the carpet?
The deck of the cat puts you far up so your partner can join you and have no problem with being in your way. Also it puts you so far up that you won't slap your trolling motor when you side arm cast across that trolling motor or when you flipping and pitching.
Yep. They handle big waves and go almost as good as an Allison xb 21, with a 300r. The trailer under the ally is a great trailer, especially with regards to function.
But both of these boats are nicer at the helm
I'm very curious to see how the Vexus vs IKon plays out...but i think you need to run the Vexus like you ran the IKon to give a true review/opinion for ride quality/fishability and so forth...
I'd be curious to know what your thoughts are on the superfest Riggs Allison, Bullet Stroker
Great brand battle on the boats-Andy!!!🤠 You know it!!! When you going to do the trolling motor battle🤔 they cost a lot and we need your "EXPERT INPUT"when it used to cost $500-$600 we didn't care🤪😜 but costing over 2k we need help from an"Expert"👍 no excuses Andy!!!😱 just get it done😬🤗🤓 Loving the videos 🤗
So this was the decision I had to make when I bought new last year. I chose Phoenix because they were just solid all the way around in every category. They we also more affordable. If I had infinite funds, I wouldve went BassCat. You want quality you're going to pay for it
Basscat customer service is by far the best. Had an issue Rick sent someone from Arkansas to my house in Wakefield Va because the local dealer couldn't get me in. Would pheonix do that? I doubt it
Andy…LOVE your Friday afternoon videos but language dude!
BCB has break away tongues that break BEHIND the winch. Makes a big difference of a couple extra feet for garage storage. They think through a lot.
This is the only way my Caracal fits into my garage. I have a 19'8" boat that everybody thinks is a 20' boat that fits in my garage because of it's length and break away tongue.
Phoenix trailers fold to behind the tip of the bow so no difference regarding storage.
Only thing I don't like about my phoenix is the plastic dash bezels. Wish they were fiberglass
Guy I know, his graphs get to bouncing around and torn the damn plastic dash right off.
@@rowdybroomstick6394 screws that hold mine on came undone during a long run, almost lost the whole thing
Newer ones are not plastic
@@liprippinwithmo my 2022 is
I’d love to see a history run down on Allison and their accomplishments in the performance bass boat world.
There aren’t any, some grant guy who fished mlf a few years back fished one. They're too expensive, I’ve heard dealing with them isn’t great! Thyre like a novelty boat, it’s like Ducati. Thyre cool but not long term ownership boats.
Love to see a falcon vs skeeter
I’d like to see a vid on a legend alpha 211r lol
What I mean is I would like to hear your thoughts on the boat!
RIP headphone users 😂
Yes we want Ikon vs Vexus
Love my Phoenix… my Merc??? Yeah I’m on the fence there. Really think I would have spent less time in the shop if I had a Yamaha on the back of it.
Awh I was hoping you did some on water footage with my cat😂
Love my Blazer 625 Pro Elite. Boat-wise, best decision I ever made.
That’s a nice boat!
Can we get an old school brand battle? Champion, Charger, Ray Craft, Sprint, Swift, or Challenger? I run a 202 champ swinging a 250 xs that will out perform most of these new boats...
BC Cougar and champ hull Stratos are neck and neck for me for the best ride Ive ever experienced.
You should do a showdown video comparing all the 2.5hp outboard for the small craft people. I have been eyeing the Suzuki, Mercury and Yamaha motors. I really like how the Suzuki is only 29lbs.
I dunno about now but a few years ago all small outboards were made by the same manufacturer and just sold under different brand names
2018 bass cat caracal owner here. Boat is a rocket amd drives on rails in calm light chop conditions. But, as soon as i get into cross wakes or rollers it is unpleasent to drive as my boat struggles to have the nose up under 50mph. Probably due to a deeper hull, 96" beam and a 19'8ft hull it just an odd deal. Its just not pleasent compared to my 294 stratos and my 205vs ranger. The basscat was probably one of the hardest to balance with weight as the bow is very weight sensitive and playing with props, even flashed my SHO 225. Build quality is phenomenal other then rigging up front of the bow with the tiny hole sucks are someone who has long arms as youll cut them up pretty good, but beats rangers foam galore. Livewells are deep and phenomenal. Easy access to clean outs and havent lost a fish and come out healthy enough that they are a pain in the ass at weigh in in how lively they are to get in the bag or scale for that matter 😂. Only issue is the lighting in my compartments failed. And im not a fan for the bow where electronics sit as i prefer center not to the right side.
Wow, our boat history is the same. I have the new Eyra. My last boat, 205vs 225 Sho flashed. One thing I notice about the cat, it likes running with the waves splitting out at the middle of the boat. In my Ranger it didn’t take too much throttle for the boat to be above the water. It feels weightier / heavier for this reason. I’m still getting used to it. But it’s a better built boat by far, the cat is. I think my 205 did better in super shallow water too. Cat hits the bottom a little more. (2 feet ish). Also I miss my lazy Boy seat from my Ranger. The cats seats aren’t as comfy. So I’m not yet a convert from my Ranger to cat, I only have about 10 hours on the cat. For the record. Also I have to move the trolling motor foot pedal back by removing that carpeted piece bc where it is, wants me out of the boat.
Absolutely want to see Ikon vs Vexus.
Ion versus vexes is a great idea
Yes, Icon vs Vexus!
On the ohio river last summer we blasted off and I ran down and passed a 2 new rangers, 2 new phoenix, and 3 nitro z20's running a 4 blade in my Caymas CX20. I think a lot of those boats are fast when they don't have much in them but load them down with tackle, 2 guys, and full tank of fuel with a little water in the livewells from boat check and they don't seem to be all that fast. During an OBN I raced my buddy in his BassCat down the lake to the first causeway and we were about dead even.
There's a Phoenix in the 20 to 21 foot range that can out run an Erya or a Cougar? I was 70-71 in in 2019 Sabre on the Ouachita River and Kevin Rogers went around me in his Cougar. Seen him at the ramp, he said he was consistent that day at 84-86 MPH... I'd believe it, he flew by me.
Fished in both and both are excellent bass cat livewells are the better of the two, no metal into the livewell so no heat transfer and the triangular shape prevents sloshing plus they are so deep the fish can almost stack 5 vertically without touching. As far as speed they are close but Cats are faster even with a 250. Build quality and constant innovation are what put Cats ahead. Cat came up with the folding trailer tongue, trailer steps, recessed trolling motor pedal and many others.
People outside are probably wondering why people are always fighting inside😂😂 great video bro
YES
I Co a lot and the Phoenix rides better than the Cat... Best ride I've been in! Hate the back deck on the cat with the tube always in the way. But they do seem to be built really solid
I agree
Can we get a bullet 21 Xrs over under?
Bass Cat has zero-heat transfer latches in their live wells and those ultra bad ass “slam” latches elsewhere.
Bass Cat also builds with more of a vacuum process in the fiberglass resin than Phoenix and allows for a longer cure time.
Bass Cat also provides a great range of hulls for a broader selection per the water type.
The carpet in Bass Cat Boats is heavier and thicker than every other bass boat builder.
Hands down Bass Cat here!! I think the cool factor for a Phoenix is a smidge above a Nitro since everybody has one. They’re cheaper to buy and resale value is lower. Lol come on Andy!!! 😊
Phoenix boats sit in the mold for a week before being pulled. Phoenix doesn’t not use a chopper gun on the hull and top cap. Bass cat does. Bass cat deck lay out is not for everyone. Bass cat makes a great boat but I liked the Phoenix lay out and esthetics much more.
Or how about IKon versus the winner between caymas and vexus?!
Recommend you take a look at a Blazer 650 Pro Tour
I’ve never had a problem with my dash it’s a 2015 , you can get fiberglass dash on new ones
BCB front decks are too narrow unless you buy STS.
I've owned a BassCat Cougar & an Eyra & have never lost a fish that wasn't gut hooked in my live wells. I challenge any Phoenix to go by me on the water with my Eyra :)
Which did you like better?
Great review . I liked seeing that johnson sign my 01 tr20 has the 225 johnson ho never had any issues hopefully one day I can upgrade until then mines paid for . I would love to see a allison vs bullet comparison speed,ride,fish ability,reliability ect . Thank you keep it up brother .
I've got a 98 evinrude 225 ( carburetor ) on a 91 dynatrak ste (heavy boat) Still runs strong, just drinks the gas. Upgraded to a 2017 x19 with a 150 4 stroke yamaha. The difference in gas mileage will pay for the boat. I love that old 2 stroke, but I burn literally 1/8th the amount of gas for the same distance ran ; with that 4 stroke
100% Ikon VS whatever monster you can! Who is KING!
Best riding boat for rough water? That’s still being made so can’t say Champion Andy lol😂. Keep the brand battles going!!
Lynx
Yes
Yes Ikon vs Vexus!!!!
I wonder if the live well system in the bass cat really does do something beneficial for the fish other than just looking cool because it's a different design? A legitimately wonder that I'm not making a smartass comment... So if anybody owns one comment back and let me know, does that help the fish.. are the fish really in a more vertical position and is that do something for the fish? Every live well I've ever seen opened on a bass cat has always had pool noodles in them same as me and a lot of other tournament anglers . But with that design.... Should you even need something to keep the fish from banging around if they're in a more vertical position? .. these are all questions I'm really asking I'm not being a smart-ass ✌️
I have never lost one single fish in my bass cat live wells. Never.
Cayma vs Vexus vs Ikon! 3 way comparison!
Bullet vs Blazer!!!
Over/under Phoenix 819 and over/under basscat p2 or pantera classic.
Yes!!! But I'm afraid icon is just going to stomp them
I own a 2016 bass cat caracal. My father, new 21' caymas. My uncle new 21' Phoenix. I've owned rangers, Norris crafts, triton. The truth is that they all have something different, that you don't like. They all have their own issues. I like my bass cat, I liked all of the other boats mentioned here as well. However, after having had the bass cat for a while, it is the best boat for my needs. Next boat will be a bass cat.
Speed to pheonix?
The “Fishability” I don’t agree with when you talk about deck space. Have you seen the “STS” series? Their decks are HUGE!!!
Should do Blazer vs bullet brand battle.
I'd like to see Blazer boats vs. Bullet
I am Cat guy but wish they'd make their shorter rigs more comparable in deck size to Phoenix. I like Phoenix but HATE plastic dashes.
Not familiar with Phoenix wells. BCB’s triangular design allows for fish care and the latches enable the water to stay cooler.
Ikon vs Vexus yes.
yes
Yes we want ikon V’s Vexus
Do a Blazer vs...
Best budget 20’ bass boat
Way too many red bulls that day, Andy lol
Ikon vs Vexus 🎉🎉🎉
Both are nice boats...you just have to drive them...both get squirrelly at high speeds
Should have compared pricing . I do know BC is about 150# heavier dry weight. I think all boats need to be made where the customer can do some rigging themselves and switch replacement. That's the thing I like about the Nitro, everything is accessible especially with the way Nitro does their windshield giving easy access to under the console.
You need a section for wiring... Those basscats have terrible wiring around the battery connections... They don't even have an off switch.. you just flip the breaker open and closed. On a 100k boat?!! ... And don't get me started on the laughable ground block stuck on the transom behind the battery or the charger that's screwed to the bottom of the bilge across the stringers. They still put carpet in the boxes.. my Cougar FTD rode like crap in rough water and was tippy when fishing... Couldn't keep up with Phoenix in tournaments in rough water. They are seriously 20 years behind other brands, but hey, they put a 500 on a jag. Basscat just has better marketing.
Speed goes to Phoenix 😂. I’ve never seen equally equipped boats where a bird outruns a cat. Nearly every 20’ cat with a 250 will touch low 80’s. Love the Phoenix product but BCB is hands down the winner
Are you racing or fishing?
Speed was part of the review. Equal size boats and motor, BCB wins every time @@user-yw5ch7lg4d
Bass Cat all the way. Feel the Rush!🤗
yes make that video
Saying a boat looks like a hundred thousand sitting on the trailer might sound like a compliment until you stop and think a Bass Cat Jaguar comes in closer to two hundred thousand. Also pointing out they don't lose many fish in that triangular live well must really come as a punch in the gut to Ben Milliken who culled fish all day and then showed up to weigh in with only 4 fish. Either Ben can't count to 5 or a fish snuck out.
Yes ikon vs vexus
I would like to see Tracker tin Bassboat vs Crestliner tin Bassboat and see which one is more worse lol
That's a phenomenal idea😂
Creastliners are built solid these days!
Phoenix trailer is made by marine Master. Had my master cylinder replaced less than a year.
master cylinder is made by UFP/Dexter. Same as Every other boat trailer. Marine master trailers are made very well.